He Told Me I Would Fail As An Artist ...Because I'm a Woman

[@emilyartful]

I still have a few more holiday hand-embellished goodies in the store! www.etsy.com/shop/EmilyArtfulOriginals Get some Emily Artful Merch Today! crowdmade.com/collections/emilyartful I realized I didn't explain that I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area and that is why I'm so bitter about the tech takeover. I still have respect for overall technological growth on a larger scale, but the takeover displaced so many wonderful people and small businesses that it put me off to that whole world. Also, I get a lot of comments about my hands/fingernails being white/purple/blue. I have Raynaud's Syndrome and that causes the blood flow to my outer extremities to be poor. It's currently cold as balls (cold balls?) where I live so that plays a role, but also I consume a fair amount of caffeine and that triggers it as well! So don't worry, I'm not dying, I just have shite blood vessels!

[@Aeonessa]

What was your inspiration/meaning for this piece? My initial interpretation made me think back to sexual trauma I endured when I was in my 20's and how I've come to terms with it now. This is a beautiful piece!

[@nilawarriorprincess]

I can't find your Skillshare link. I've searched a few videos & it's not in the discription box of any of them. I could really use help. There's a class I need to take.

[@Specters0rd]

Oh interesting. Your the second youtuber that I know that has that syndrome. Although the other youtuber has a severe case of it. ;_;

[@biteofdog]

@@nilawarriorprincess It's in the description of the video.

[@nilawarriorprincess]

@@biteofdog No, it's not. That's why I asked.

[@JaneDoe_123]

Even if you DID want to be a FAMOUS artist, hIsToRiCaLlY sPeAkInG, classic artists were 99% men because women weren't allowed to do it. At least publicly. To the point where to this day the "credibility" and "autheticity" of some women artists is STILL debated. Also, Arnold sounds like the type of person that doesn't have anything to do outside of work, and is proud of that...

[@Specters0rd]

Sounds like a inconito guy in his mommas basement.

[@emilyau8023]

The whole time I heard his responses I was like ..."ok...but who asked you?"

[@ilahjarvis]

According to a recent exhibit I saw of Louise Nevelson, some critic admitted that he nearly made the mistake of praising her work, but "discovered just in time" that it was made by a woman, thus saving him the embarrassment. The misogyny is disgusting. One way to make sure we don't make progress is to not try at all.

[@daisyko.3620]

As an art History student is say this man’s assessment about women in arts is super incorrect. Artemisia Gentileschi is one of the very important Italian artists of Baroque and she definitely had a daughter if not more kids. Le Brun had kids. Frida Kahlo wanted to have kids, just couldn’t. Yayoi Kusama has a son. Louise Bourgeois, Berthe Morisot, de Lempicka, and many more, had kids. And wow, some women artists opt to not have kids. But I’d say the ratio is closer to 50/50. The reason why people hear less about female artists? Most people used to learn the most about art through school, and curriculums, usually made by men, heavily favoured men. Yes, the art world is incredibly patriarchal (and much like this tech bro, disguises as woke). But that never stopped women from excelling in art and selling art. There’s a lot to be said about women historically operating more from home and selling to closer communities more than man. But that could be a dissertation topic and I don’t wanna throw out some half baked claims lol

[@TheRunningLeopard]

Soon to graduate historian here, best comment in this section. 10/10

[@daisyko.3620]

@@TheRunningLeopard thank you 🥺

[@TheRunningLeopard]

@@daisyko.3620 Np, literally just took a Women & Gender Throughout the History of Art course and it’s nice to use a bit of that knowledge outside of academia to commend the words of others.

[@harlowitter3060]

Hell yeah 😎

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Whoa never knew people could be this close minded

[@fidgetyhuman]

Found you

[@aquabloopbloop]

it's not close minded at this point, it's rock but they naned it a "mind"

[@erikas.6790]

You must be really young though 🤣

[@emilyartful]

I’ve been blessed!

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Mustache guy hello ( ╹▽╹ )

[@hi-rw4nl]

I genuinely don't understand why creative jobs aren't seen as actual jobs unless you're working in a big ass corporation like Disney

[@peach_levell]

Bruh, people who think graphic design isn't a real job, should immediately stop engaging in all forms of content they use and consume. Those cute app icons on your phone? Graphic design That nice movie poster? Graphic design The signs you see on the side of the road? Graphic design

[@Terrelli9]

Really any branch of visual arts. If the naysayers actually stopped running their mouths long enough to observe the massive amount of their environment that’s been made by an artist, from logos to textile patterns to video games to book illustrations to thousands of other important things people take for granted as things that will automatically be there because reasons, artist would get so much more respect.

[@AnnaReed42]

It took me until fairly recently to realize this, I had been so ingrained with the idea of the "starving artist." I was always told that art is only a viable career path if you're willing to suffer for it, and only if you're insanely and innately talented at it. In reality, art is fucking EVERYWHERE and it's not even that hard to find a full-time, stable position in graphic design or some other artistic field. Hell, even my work in software configuration has an artistic bent to it, since a significant part of my job is to make the end product look aesthetically pleasing to our clients. Without me, my team would be working with our marketing team a lot more, because customer-facing stuff needs to look good.

[@naraku971]

Right?

[@dragongamerboi13]

Just dont go to Ai for it, they wont teach you anything and will rob you blind of money.

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

Better stop reading anything outside of individual people's individual handwriting too. Fonts are graphic design too

[@daydreamerdraw2221]

Something that I noticed is that stereotypical "feminine" things like music,acting,art and cooking are viewed to be less masculine when a man does it as a hobby or a female does it as a hobby its right and accepted , but once it reaches a professional level then it's respectful and amazing when men do it yet when a women enters the same level of professionalism she "can't handle it" love ur videos btw 🥰🥰and sorry for the rant

[@gardeniainbloom812]

Hm interesting. No accolades, status or money at hobby level (a lot of spending though) quite the reverse at professional level. Hence gate keeping women.

[@gem9535]

And it's only because men don't want women to be successful and independent at something they're good at

[@cal.icopen]

it really does boil down to misogynistic men and a misogynistic men oriented industry not handling female competition huh :/ the idea of a woman being better than them in the work field is terrifying to some men and it's so utterly sad and pathetic to even think about

[@bennycuomo544]

bread scientist

[@chl8760]

They are still feminine its just that a lot of sexist men have different thinking

[@clarascloset]

My daughter, who is a video game artist, put up with a smug start-up bro for almost three years until she finally had enough of his gaslighting and quit. But she still collected a percentage of royalties on the game because it was her art. He texts her 6 months later saying that he was cutting the agreed upon royalty from 5% to .5% or she could sell the rights for $2500, because the artwork was suddenly, “not good enough.” I told her to send back a text, “I’ll have to run it by my attorney.” Obviously not the answer he wanted to hear. Because he expected her to roll over and do what he wanted. After many ranting texts, pleading texts, all sorts of manipulation, she finally sold her rights for significantly more. And she learned a valuable lesson about smug, start-up bros: when you start your ground, or threaten them back, they will eventually fold.

[@eldron29-a54]

I know some of that horrible people. Profesional demagogues.

[@PinkWytchBytch]

Shouldn’t have sold her rights at all! As a fellow female artist, all that was was them finding a male artist and wanting a cheap contact break from the royalties. I would’ve countersued and made sure those bastards paid me royalties til the day the game died

[@indra_vrtrahan]

Yeah right lmao, try that in real life and see how that sh*t goes in a court 😂

[@coralrue]

There was no court case involved…

[@urvapatelart]

Aaah shouldn’t have sold her rights. In future if the game makes a lot , 5% could be a lot. As an artist, I feel grateful as my husband as an attorney always advises me in these kind of scenarios.

[@thoughtsofadame1952]

No man has ever ACTUALLY played "Devils advocate" Thats a dog whistle for "I'm covering my unwashed ass on this so no one gets mad"

[@anahirodriguez3322]

100% I roll my eyes whenever a guy says that to me especially when it’s regarding sexist remarks towards women at our job

[@BumbleteaArt]

"a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments." even tho this is the definition, I totally agree with you and he seemed like the type of guy who are "old fashioned" and think women will never make a good living out of anything they love to do.

[@BumbleteaArt]

He was definitely not a feminist

[@notmyhairyarmpits]

@@BumbleteaArt sometimes people also use it as a tactic to make sure his partner is dependent on him (his money, stability, whatever resources he discouraged his partner from going after) so he can make sure the partner doesn't leave him no matter how much of a toxic person he is.

[@BumbleteaArt]

@@notmyhairyarmpits thats gross to even think about. I am a small local artist with an Etsy (I work another job until I can get enough traction) and my Fiancé is the most supporting man I know. He supports me through every craft and art piece I make. He wishes he made more to support me when we struggle but I would never be with him if he belittled my art and my skill.

[@Terrelli9]

Wooooooow…dude is clueless. Has he heard of ANY female artists who lived in the past 200 years??? Also, those colors are gorgeous!

[@callanightshade8079]

Artemisia Gentileschi is (now) famously known for her not only being a star pupil during Renaissance Italy, but also how in 1612 she got justice, in a court of law, against her teacher who sexually assaulted her

[@bluemusic9680]

Isn't being creative a feminine trait. He must be on something.

[@chocobun4879]

@@bluemusic9680 I thought most women nowadays were artist. I never knew people thought ladies with children couldn’t be artist.

[@puckvanrooij]

​@@chocobun4879 You thought most women nowadays are artists? Yeah there are many creative women out there, but they don't necessarily apply that to an art form. Personally I know more women who don't work in a creative field than women who do.

[@Midway2RealityASMR]

Start up bro are professional employees and worry about “being hired” rather than working for yourself and reaping the benefits. These play it safe types only are professional employees because they love the frat bro environment. Personally I love working for myself and i won’t go back to working for anyone.

[@whowhat.wherewhen]

Oh my gosh, you get it!!!! My mom built a home business when I was younger. And now myself, cannot work for anyone who is dismissive with the mindset of 'you are replaceable' When we take on a client it is what it is...but! then they become family! And our lives are richer for knowing them. . . . Thank you for letting me comment on your comment. . Much Love Much Peace 🥰🤗🥰

[@bibule]

This is why I don’t want to work in a office and have a boss but I want to become a freelancer

[@elenacarin9153]

I want to work for myself, I was working as a phone receptionist but had to quit bc my mental illness is coming back… but my mom says my art isn’t there yet.

[@ZetaCancri]

Same, why I'm self employed. Can't stand working with other people

[@arlaux1099]

This is common in the art world, not just the because you’re a woman thing but the entirety of “you’ll never be an artist” stuff. This currently, right now, strangles many kids who make an artwork, see that it isn’t realistic, and then have a teacher or some other individual tell them that they are bad which makes said child grow up never having learned how to draw and having a massive internal roadblock in the way of them learning to create art.

[@ciborggal3496]

Unfortunately true. My mom loved to draw in middle/high school, but she had a teacher who rudely criticize her art. Made her not want to invest in drawing anymore. She has kind of gotten back into it lately, but more in the form of doodles.

[@geoisacat]

I hate that kind of stuff. I have been very fortunate to have family, friends, and teachers who were all super supportive of my passions, and pushed me to always get better and improve when it comes to me doing art stuff, especially drawing. It makes me sad to know that there are people out there who ruin a person's passion for art, saying they'll never be any good. I wish the best of luck to any artists out there, and I want you to keep chasing your passion :D

[@KittenMoonshadow]

Omg nothing peeves me more than someone saying that being an everyday artist isn't a "real job". Like, screw you guys. It's a real job. 😑

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

I never understood where people got that idea from. Other people pay real money for art and they notice that, artists have to put real work and talent into creating art and they get that, people are willing to sometimes wait for YEARS for work to come through for them depending on what they asked for and they comment on that, people are getting a service out of an artist and they all but say that. But it's not a real job, somehow... Where in all that does it NOT sound like a job someone is doing?

[@isaacgray2909]

Patreon artists: am I a fucking joke to you

[@xena91388]

Nothing peeves me more than people who say "___ isn't a real job". It doesn't matter if you're an artist or an engineer, skilled or unskilled, if you are working hard to make a living, it's a job.

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

Ah yes, because womanly hands just can't handle the extreme weight of the paintbrushes! Their feeble eyes can't cope with the strain of all those colours!

[@Gxylord]

fun fact: supposedly people asigned female at birth (afab) can see more colours than male assigned (amab) people, having a wider spectrum of colour. i think because of that, you could say, afab people are predispositioned to be better artist, at least in terms of the colour pallette side. (obviously not bashing the amab artists, it just goes to show that "arnold" was talking out of his ass as if somehow afab people are biologically weaker when it comes to art-)

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

@@Gxylord finally, these damn ovaries of mine will serve a purpose Also, appreciate your use of afab and amab. I was going to use those terms myself, but since I was mocking what a start up bro would say, figured it'd be more in line to just use 'womanly'

[@gem9535]

@@Gxylord I'm freakin' cis and the afab and amab makes me happy. 🥰

[@cydney1545]

I always find it amusing when men ask women if they've considered how hard it would be to pursue their career or anything in general as a woman. Like. Oh my gosh it's almost as if I live the life of a woman everyday and and have to face it constantly. Or that it's one of the first things that everyone brings up when I mention my career choice. Why thank you sir for bringing to light so belittlingly what I constantly struggle with while you use it to your advantage.

[@Gxylord]

it's almost as if that's why feminism exists!!! wow... who could've known? fr arnold sounded like a performative feminist only using the movement to get women otherwise his singular braincell would have activated to realise he was being a misogynist by trying to disuade a woman from persuing a career Because she is a woman...

[@redsephone]

I loathe people who think they know the field better than the person who is actually the one in the field. Sigh.

[@nakedmaneatinginadumpster6242]

You have everything that Shanon wishes she had and I think she’s mad jealous; actual artistic skill, a good family, etc etc

[@cryomiji]

I had to mentally roll my eyes because I can't stop watching how Emily puts such care and beauty into femininity. Using flowers with human hips breathes such beauty to me. Keep creating Emily!

[@cloer.taylor8081]

"you're an artist? What does that entail?" "I make art, Arnold."

[@haliamyx]

Spite is a great motivator, I was applying for a college and the teacher looked at my grades [which were awful] and was like *sniff* "You won't be able to apply to this college, not with these grades." And the look on her face when I was in one of the classes the next year with better grades than what I had.

[@lizzardnurphy]

Such a fantastic drawing and great advice. I was an Electrician and can't count the times I was told I couldn't do the job because "you're woman". Just made me dig in and prove them wrong. And I did, time & time again. Even did it better AND got paid more than alot of the men on top of it. Don't let people tell you what you can and can't do. Dig in!

[@electrofonickitty823]

Sounds like one of my former friends who thought she was a better author because she looked at wetpad and wrote majority smut. She said because I have a learning disability I can't be a serious author. Also she idolized some Japanese Rock band called Alice 9 a bit too much.

[@iciajay6891]

About 56% of the world has at least one disability. So the person telling you that did not know reality and was actually so insecure in themselves that they had to try to project it onto you.

[@electrofonickitty823]

@@iciajay6891 oh yeah...so true, she still bashed my work even when she got told I was selling work on Amazon. I honestly just shrugged and continued working. So yeah, as Emliy said, it made me want to work twice as hard

[@SourEggz]

@@iciajay6891 Most of us become disabled at some point in our lives, too. 🙂

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

There are so many niches to fill in writing, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You can go to just about any site on the internet and see people going "man, I wish I could find a book that would scratch that one little itch I have for a premise" and there's a real chance THIS-but-from-the-perspective-of-a-person-with-a-disability is something you're going to hear at least once a month if you're looking.

[@electrofonickitty823]

@@YourWaywardDestiny yes and there are many who I met in one authors' group on FB who have one or more disabilities and writing is what they do for either getting some income or at least one or two ghost write for one company or another. So when my former friend was talking I just figured she never seen a group like this.

[@tanwencooper6928]

Eugh. The thing that bothers me is the whole 'famous artists' bent of this - like it's only worth pursuing a creative career if you can make millions and be the most famous person to do it. It's okay to just want to make a living wage doing something you enjoy. That thinking is something I've spent the last few years trying to unlearn myself.

[@Terrelli9]

That is a BRILLIANT letting technique! Looks like a typewriter or printing press. I never thought of doing that.

[@boinkkadoink]

Sorry about creepshow. Honestly i think you should just take the situation to court to and this once and for all

[@lynxietheroaha5240]

See and this is why the community needs Emily. She's had her fair share of shit, and yet.. Here she is. Being brave, telling stories. Coming back and teaching lessons alot of people can use. I know myself that the words at the end.. Will really help me. I don't *need* others to compliment me, I need to see my own strength in art.. And, well. Other things. Thanks Emily for your wonderful artwork and your great story.

[@bobateapenguin]

god it reminds me of a time when some sophomore bio major girl in my writing in the arts class talked down on me because I was a sociology major. At the time, I was getting lunch outside of the university and she was with three other freshmen and she introduced me to them (because I was a senior at that point) and when they asked about my major I said sociology and she deadass said "yeah she's never going to make a dime in her life haha" and honestly I was too shocked to say anything. I was happy the other two were like "hey thats not cool" and she tried to play it off as a joke but like damn that was so uncalled for. Either way she found out later I knew how to paint/draw because our writing class was based around art and when I presented my artwork she was like "you should draw me something" and I remember saying "haha yeah no" and never talking to her again lmao.

[@toxicsugarart2103]

Hooooly shit this is insufferable. The part where he shushed you with his hand and his friend laughed had me enraged. The audacity.

[@dragongamerboi13]

And men really wonder why most of us want nothing to do with them. Because you wont take us seriously or fucking listen to anything we say, when we actually do know better. It's completely asinine.

[@gem9535]

*S M A C K*

[@MellowJelly]

I will only be friends and in relationships with men who recognize that and correct their "bros" behaviour by calling it out

[@Mandrake_root]

This is really eye opening bc i can tell when ppl have talked to ME that way about being a musician, and i didnt consider how condescending it was until now. Like, its infuriating and when it gets to you it sticks for way too long. I'm realizing now that the guy I was talking to most recently was actually a startup bro. He literally told me he was from California and worked in IT...

[@Mandrake_root]

I think what keeps me from picking up on it right away is that I don't sense any malicious intent. Because there isn't any meant, they just think they're smarter and better than me. You don't need malice to step on people. These people's ideas of what success even is is just so small-minded. And honestly, that's understandable for a lot of men because of the pressure that's placed on that gender role. Men are traditionally expected to support an entire family on a single income, which profoundly impacts the careers they choose. It definitely did for my older brother. But we don't live in an age of single income households anymore. If I get married and have kids, I'm not worried about my job being able to pay all the bills And put food on the table. I'll be providing *part* of that, not all.

[@poemsbybow8104]

This story reminds me of a “girl at a bar” and sketch which each guy is hitting on this girl pretending to be a work feminist just to get with her.

[@JD-lk3qb]

Once I showed my grandma a painting of Shoto Todoroki and she asked me how did I do it. I told her I used the carbon method and when I explained it she said “don’t you think that’s cheating?” I said “no may artists use this technique and also I just used the sketch I still painted it with my hand” then she said “that’s still cheating” This is one of the few incidents with my grandma and she caused me to have a bunch of insecurities about myself but just to shorten the story this is one of the incidents Oh also she can’t even draw a stick figure to save her life

[@pinkyhc4130]

When people are being this persistently rude and argumentative with you, call them on the behavior. Don't engage with the argument, but tell them that you don't like how they're speaking to you. Do not tolerate their disrespect disguised as discourse, they're bullying you. I call people like these Fartsniffers, it was hilarious that Emily made the same connection. Lovely artwork as always ❤ Ps, just channel Anjelica Houston in Ever After when you call them out. 'It is your MANNER which offends.'

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

Fartsniffers I like that! 🤣

[@dragongamerboi13]

And just don't disrespect women in general, especially in front of a woman. You wanna do your little boy talks, you do it far away from women and those more mature than you. And these guys wonder why no one will sleep with them.

[@talk9552]

Exactly! Whenever I find myself in a situation like this, that tends to he my retort. In a situation like this I might've said, "Do you have a problem with my career choice? Like, you seem pretty against it, is there a reason why? Is it just because it's difficult, or are there some other biases going on in there?" Watch them get mad, watch them argue, watch them call you a b*tch and then say, "I don't see why you can't just say 'hey that's difficult, so best of luck to you', unless you have some sort of internalized bias about artists. Either way, it's not my problem. Oh, and best of luck to your start up company. I know how difficult it can be to get one of those off the ground." And leave it at that. Walk away if you can. You wont win the argument, but you'll piss them off. They get real mad and bad mouth you to their friends, but who cares? Its funny and someone like that is not worth losing brain cells over lol

[@kayd.1600]

This whole thing brought back horrible memories of the men in my graphic design major. Like the guy who told me I would never get a professional job because my art was “too feminine” 😳

[@EmmaMccormick713]

Hey love, if you see this i really hope youre doing okay with everything thats happened these last few days

[@rosemulet]

Does this guy not realize that most artists...are women?

[@gutterfly91]

Right! If he had any info from a time period after the flipping 1920s he'd know that women currently dominate the gender ratio in both the art school and art industry. I'm currently studying at MICA and 90 percent of my classmates are AFAB. That is also true for our successful alums over the last 2 plus decades

[@gutterfly91]

Like there are SOOO many successful women in all levels of the art industry, this outdated "well actually artist are men" bullshit is so laughable. The last FIVE museum exhibitions I've been to were ALL women

[@rosemulet]

@@gutterfly91 why the AFAB? Trans women are women too.

[@lordarthur2165]

@@rosemulet afab means assigned female at birth. Amab it's people who were assigned male at birth.

[@rosemulet]

@@lordarthur2165 I know. And I'm a trans woman. I'm a trans woman too. the term AFAB excludes trans women and implies that we're not really women.

[@Gabrielle261]

Who the hell made Arnold The Tech Guy an authority on marketing independent artists? What a jerk.

[@SpookieVonDookie]

Honestly, most of the hateful & discriminatory shit I've seen comes from the self professed woke folk. I'm proud of you not only for proving this asshat wrong, but also for being you

[@idezwitch]

I honestly don't think he was woke, just a simp lmao. There definitely are men who'll pretend to be feminists to get with women & be liked by women, but usually it's very easy to tell their true intentions.

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

If we're talking statistically, Arnold was probably in a worse position to advance his career, and I find that hilarious. The entire (financial) point of social media is for as many users as possible to be on the site for as long as possible in a day, and I'm going to say MOST people have a passing interest in art. On the other hand, only so many platforms are going to preform well, and that means only so many IT personnel is going to be required at a given time to keep those select platforms operational. Millions of potential customers out there for an artist on social media, increasingly poorer pay and more cut-throat professionals willing to do it all and more just get their foot in Google's door... Just looking at it realistically, he really should have a back up plan outside of IT work if he really wants to advance his lot in life and not get stuck in a no-name, no-pay position. It's not that I'm not supportive, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

This !!! Arnold is the one on thin ice with his very expendable position... talking to an artist that's just starting to have an audience and clearly a lot of potential in store AND a woman no less gets him this type : 💩💩 of brownie points

[@parthsavyasachi9348]

In reality though its the aholes who gets to the top. Nice people are trampled around. Its not to say that one shall be an ahole but top positions are full of them..

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

@@parthsavyasachi9348 There are far more assholes in the world then there are positions of power for them to occupy. I don't think that ups his chances all that much 😂

[@parthsavyasachi9348]

@@YourWaywardDestiny that's true too.

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

One thing that kind of bugs me with people like this, is when you mention you want to do something in the art world like, art, music, writing or anything like that and they just assume that you want to be famous when it’s like… No you can make those a normal job without being famous lol

[@Zi518zi]

How is he even in the IT industry with that kind of logic. I bet he has tons of bugs in his code

[@bruhhhebrooo5269]

12:02 honestly that was probably the best thing for you to do in the end. Arnold reminds me of those people who love to argue, create conflicts with people and demean/belittle them for any reason whatsoever. Sometimes it’s better to just walk away from people like that and be the bigger person, because all they thrive on is conflict and drama

[@hollyo7759]

You did the right thing when you walked away. You would never have "won". In his mind, he was right, you were wrong, and this cute little girl should just shut up and do what the big man tells her. ugh! I hate patronizing man-splainers!

[@dragongamerboi13]

Time they go the way of old yeller.

[@purplehaze2358]

Last I checked, artistic mediums are near-universally dominated by women.

[@userxv]

Just here to tell you to keep on keeping on! I know these past week must have been rough. We got you girl!

[@kardilee]

Happy New Year’s Emily Artful 💜 We got your back.

[@Nightroo]

While you were telling that story all I could think about is how low Arnold's statistics are to be famous as a start-up bro... like the overwhelming majority of start-ups fail lol. Also hate the way he acted like he knew more about art when he was talking to a professional artist. on another note this artwork is gorgeous! And I always love when you add metallic accents

[@littlebug.crochet]

Emily is like my internet mom, I’ve watched her for so long and she’s helped me so much I’m very thankful for her

[@Patricia-b]

The "Low income to who Bitch???" had me in stitches. I truly love your channel, not only are you an amazing artist but you talk about these serious topics with the type of humour that really resonates with me. I too see headlines and have the urge to yell out similar things ending in bitch

[@ilahjarvis]

Just hearing the reenactment of this is making me feel a little like the exorcist. Also as a Bay Area native, I can verify that all the economic bullsh*t thanks to Silicon valley is too true.

[@bethk.3340]

The more they want to put me in a box, the more I want to break free...that really resonated with me Emily. It moved me. Thank you

[@silentfriend369]

Wanted to show support after the attempt made to expose you for past bad choices and mental health struggles. You deserve to move on and find your peace and joy. She cannot take from you the hard work you've done to overcome your past and your inner "demons" (so to speak). You are more than your past choices and internal struggles. Well wishes and happy new year. 😊💚

[@Vlad-rb5nc]

'I'm just telling the truth...' 'I try to be realistic here...' 'This is the truth, I'm saying it anyway, if it hurts you, I can't do nothing...' Yeah...tell me you are a toxic ignorant without telling me you are a toxic ignorant. I think it's better you didn't stood there to defend yourself, not woth it and maybe he would have hurt you more. You're an artist, you do you. P.S. Love the chromatic palette.

[@AdamskiiJon]

"Sorry I sound major bitter. That's because I am😊" Emily kills me 😂

[@DinosaurProtector]

I grew up and still live in the South Bay. I really appreciate everything you said about tech bros and how tech companies have changed the landscape here. I've been an art teacher in East San Jose for 17 years and even though I'm at the top of my district's pay scale, I rent and live in a converted garage in the backyard of a friend's house. It's really tough here for anyone who isn't in the tech industry and it's especially tough for anyone in the service industry (like many of my student's parents). I have had so many experiences with tech bros and they are absolutely exhausting. I'm really glad that you didn't let his "helpful devil's advocating" stop you at all. Hope you are doing well!

[@rachellynncreates2703]

I need to show my daughter your channel. She has a bit of a dark sense and sense of humor and I’d show it to her to show her that artwork can be a bit dark but also beautiful.

[@Specters0rd]

YES PLEASE DO! I think she'll love her!

[@kariduanimations]

Someone who considers themselves “progressive” while being sexist is like someone saying they’re smart while actually being a literal cannoli. Btw your art is so cool and you’re amazing and never forget that ( ^ω^ )

[@StrawberryNova]

People like that drive me up the wall. Absolutely frustrating as all heck. On another note, was completely enamoured watching you paint the butterflies! So pretty!

[@smolsupernova]

One of the biggest things that I admire about you is that you bring up your motherhood in context of your career a lot. It's so wholesome & wonderful to hear about little glimpses into your home life. Raising a human being is a REALLY hard & underappreciated full time job; so doing your art & following that passion on top of that.....amazing. You're a very inspiring artist. And I hope that you & your art continue to thrive. [hope the same for myself too lol]

[@mistingwolf]

"I'm gonna call her Becky........" Me: "Please say Apples!" "....Apples." Me: *claps IRL* "YES!!"

[@admiraloverdone]

Ugh, the little Christmas animation is everything ;v; Also: wow!! Your presentation style is so funny- you make a really uncomfortable topic (sexism) seem amusing, so that’s really great! :D

[@HyruleMaster]

I have a similar story: I forget what the initial conversation, but we were talking to someone about finances? Or careers? Idk, but his wife gave "unsolicited advice" and tried to look for jobs for us at one place by texting a friend of hers. When that friend said, "idk if we have any positions open" she sent the screenshot of that conversation to my husband and added, "you guys chose the worst majors." (I am a costumer and he is a pianist.) Another time during grad school interviews, I was given a lot of comments along the lines of "you have no idea what you're doing" and "we're only looking for people who are serious about this" Boy, I was discouraged initially, but those kinds of comments really fire me up now. Oh yeah? Here I am laughing from my chair at my full-time job as a costumer.

[@flurderburger]

I applaud your patience with this guy.

[@beccag2758]

Literally! I don’t know if I’d be able to resist punching him in the teeth! The conversation just got worse and worse as it continued, Emily was way more patient than I think I could ever have been

[@emilyau8023]

Reminds me of when I was in my first tech class and the professor bragged about how feminist he was and then proceeded to say "I don't want to see any men helping women at all because they're so capable. I know you see them as a damsel in distress cause we are biologically made to believe that, but don't help them." He also had us do a "diversity" discussion with a weird rule that women can't talk about sexism in tech because they're women 🤦‍♀️

[@miralock]

I hope you're ok today. And I hope you know how loved and supported you are, not just in your personal life but in this space of KZbin. We all see through that nonsense that happened today. Happy new year. Stay strong

[@TheAdrift]

I probably would have reacted the exact same way, but now that I have what I call my “post-2021 personality,” halfway through this video I was already thinking I’d be saying “I don’t remember fucking asking you to mansplain my art career to me” and chucking a drink in his face 🤣

[@heywhatupitsash7389]

Sending much love your way Emily. Stay safe out there. I hope this will all be over soon and they leave you and your beautiful family alone.

[@thatoneace5192]

People have told me I can’t do art because I’m a girl. I go too school and find all the support I need! My friends and classmates don’t care! I do art I feel TOO well! My friends always say I should be an artist but I have other passions. I wanna tell anyone who gets bullied because they say you can’t do something, well go do it anyways!? If you don’t like it don’t do it! But if you wanna make a passion then do it! Don’t stop what you love!

[@redhairedchai3437]

Emily please please please stay safe my love!

[@alpacalypse4552]

somewhere arnold is hearing this and taking responsibility for all of emily’s success

[@jsgkhr6204]

Arnold is trying to get a free drink somewhere because he knew Emily Artful back in the day.

[@re_animatedabby6791]

This piece is stunning. Reminds me of my chronic pain. Thank you. Will it be in your shop?

[@emilyartful]

Yes! I’ll make a post when it’s available. Trying to find a good print manufacturer right now.

[@re_animatedabby6791]

@@emilyartful Awesome! That would be amazing! I had never bought art from you before so out of curiosity do you sell originals like this? If not totally chill and will happily pick up a print when available 😀 😊 🙂

[@QRaven18]

I legit imagined the "Smug Alert" episode of south park where they fart and inhale it. That's literally Author. Also the amount of patience you have is amazing, cause I would have walked away and told him to fuck off LOL.

[@drinkbooks]

Landlords be like: "Oh look! People are making more money! I HAVE to have some of that, I'm going to raise my rents, take the same percentage of their income I was when they were making less so that they STAY broke and I get rich! This is awesome!"

[@lim.b.]

I hope you sell a print of this piece! It’s so striking. I really admire your ability to take people’s bullshit and grow a garden. I appreciate how grounded you are and can’t wait for more.

[@toomuchsara42]

Thank you for not only sharing this story, but what you learned from it. Your message at the end damn near made me cry. 💕

[@puppyinabubble8329]

Ngl the argument: 'As a woman you have Less chance of making it as a successful Artist' surprised me. Personally (in my area specifically) you see a higher percentage of women and girls having an interest and skill in art than men (not saying that men don't or shouldn't have an interest) And believe me there are defiantly amazing male artists out there, and I've seen plenty but from my own perspective I think that you see women artist much more than men.

[@dragongamerboi13]

It's a brain thing, it's all in the brain. We're more oriented to doing small tasks and creative measures. Men are more oriented to physical strength and harder labor. It's a brain and body thing and it can't be helped. He actually got it all wrong, women make better artists by default due to the brain and evolution.

[@emilyau8023]

I just had to share my experience: I was in my first tech class and the professor bragged about how feminist he was and then proceeded to say "I don't want to see any men helping women at all because they're so capable. I know you see them as a damsel in distress cause we are biologically made to believe that, but don't help them." He also had us do a "diversity" discussion with a weird rule that women can't talk about sexism in tech because they're women 🤦‍♀️

[@RaquelliBee]

I had to pause the video. The reenactment of his speech to you made me so mad. Like who is this fool? Who is he to give you advice? THAT YOU DID NOT ASK FOR ugh 🙄. You're nicer than me. I wouldn't have even shown him anything or continued the convo. The amount of attitude this man would have received.... lord have mercy

[@berserkagain7976]

I hope your doing well, sorry about the whole creepshowart thing. I definitely only support you on that whole sitution, Shannon seriously is gross for trying to go for low blows for no good reason and not even proving herself right out of the whole 2 and a half hour video. She is truly pathetic and needs to grow up.

[@PelageaASMR]

At 9:07 I am so mad that I can't keep on warching. Kudos to you that you were able to sit thrugh this :D

[@Gpa4-1966]

I love how you incorporate bones in your work. I love skeletons (especially skulls)

[@debraforth8988]

I live in SF. This hit home, for sure. I’ve just recently seen success as an independent artist, but every day I fight my own thoughts of doubt. I’ve got this!

[@marisathekilljoy7292]

“Art is the weapon.” - Gerard Way Remember this quote, Emily, if people try to undermine your artistic ability, please create your heart out to prove those start up bros wrong.

[@Myst_Eerie_Isle]

I've been told that because I'm an artist, I'm going to hell. Because I'm impersonating "god" by using my imagination and creating my own worlds. And people wonder why I hate organized religion.

[@zeniomozara1280]

I love the Centaurworld reference. Also, just you in general. Hope you have a wonderful holidays ❤

[@smelly4498]

i find it interesting that those kinds of people always care more about productivity, salary, and success more than the job itself. it’s not a bad thing to want to be successful or live comfortably or be recognized for the work you do, but a lot of these guys see their lives as a numbers game. to me, if i can live with less wealth or popularity doing what makes me happy, that is what i should be doing. money is important, and financial stability is important, but i find a lot of this crowd forget it all means nothing if they aren’t content. it’s not “wasted potential” for someone to choose a low paying creative career over a high paying job right out of a 4 year college. not all jobs are for everyone, and everyone has different wants and needs. it’s weird that so many people assign their value or worth to how much they contribute to the economy. this ideology was something i grew up with, but i started to realize what makes me valuable can’t be measured. don’t let anybody force you to lead a life you don’t want, you have the right to be happy doing what you love :)

[@ElfInTheFlowers]

This conversation is just putting me in a worse mood each and every second... you are amazing Emily!!!

[@christythehedgehog169]

Wanted to come by your channel and drop a happy new year you have been through so much dear and I hope this year is better happy new year I love your content always and forever!

[@keaton_]

My favorite thing about your videos is that I can listen to it and not have to watch the video, or I can watch it with the sound off and be soothed by the satisfying art, or I can do both at the same time. There’s nothing about your videos that isn’t entertaining. Love your channel, Em. It’s a gift that keeps on giving. 🧡

[@caleighschultz1620]

I usually don't comment, but man this video just hit me right in the heart at the perfect time. Lately, I've been really exhausted and beat down, which was making me question myself and my abilities. There's nothing like a funny, helpful story with a gorgeous piece of art from my biggest inspiration to pull me out of all those worries and fears. I'm really glad that you're here doing what you love and allowing us to share it with you. I can't tell you how much your work has helped me.

[@ladykimono401]

Gosh darnit, I wish I had this video to see 15 years ago. Maybe I would have stuck with my dream to go into art, and have graphic design as fall back. Instead, I now have to try and wriggle my way into being a graphic designer so I can maybe one day live of my art... Great video is what I am trying to say^_^

[@hirundoart]

I am a stay at home mom of 5 kids. My partner work, he helps me to have time for my art. And because of that i have now the time to work as a illustrator for childeren books, i am Just starting but i am so happy i can do what i love the most. Greatings from Holland

[@edna1174]

when you were stamping my mind went: “oh she’s gonna stamp eat, there’s an ‘h’ so hate… oh ‘he’.. heat? how does heat.. oh heal” also i love the story and lesson learned from it! i’ve had people tell me, “are you sure you want to be an artist? do you have a backup plan?” so hearing your story was relatable and inspiring for a want-to-be artist! :)

[@jayslgbtbr2407]

You're an amazing artist and I'm so glad you pushed through the hate and stayed motivated!

[@SilasGrieves]

Contrary to the Creep’s latest video, I still believe you wholeheartedly. She said nothing in the video to clear her own name. She published a video just to try to break down your legitimacy. She can’t. She can try to cloud the truth all she wants but the truth always prevails. I saw a few comments also mentioning her mental states. She’s ticking something serious “pre-psychotic break). I too am concerned for your mental, emotional, and physical safety Emily. Please seriously consider investing into a self defense device. Pepper Spray, Taser, a knife. And if you’re Pro Second Amendment, look into getting a gun.

[@cassiel.6918]

Apparently Shannon really doesn't want to lose her channel's monetization lol We stand with you!

[@linttastic]

I feel your pain about big tech in silicon valley lol. I'm from Sacramento county and now bay area tech people ended up driving up the cost of living out here 😭😭😭

[@cindyliart]

I can’t believe someone could be this close minded in the 21st century, but in the end it’s their loss since they couldn’t enjoy those beautiful creations of yours.

[@amberpadilla6463]

Omg!!! This story is so triggering!!! The mansplaining is the worst!!! Men have traditionally been more successful at art because PATRIARCHY! I once had a conversation with someone that told me women have it better in the work force because they have the option to sleep their way up. He truly believed this…it was horrifying…

[@dragongamerboi13]

Wouldn't even have to "sleep our way up" if we were actually treated equally and with equal pay. And some women just love sex work, what about them? There's male sex workers too....yall keep demanding sex, might as well pay for it. If there's no demand, theres no supply. So they can't damn women for sleeping around for money when they want a whore.

[@charliebgoode4729]

You have waaay more patience than me. I would not have stayed and listened to that bs, but good on you. Also, lovey piece as always!

[@indrarobinson7473]

Just coming to your page to show you love! You are amazing, beautiful and kind. Sending you light and love in 2022

[@Zozziful]

Such a gorgeous art piece. I love the style and the colours. Watching you paint this so relaxing, which was strange because listening to that how that guy treated you was definitely anxiety inducing! I hope you don't feel you have to justify yourself to people like this anymore. You make beautiful art and wonderful videos and your family life is something to aspire to. Happy Holidays!