Eminem & Kim: America's Most Toxic Couple

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[@KingLegendary1]

it's not "reverse racism" it's just racism

[@reeddior]

“You can take the couple out of a trailer park in Detroit, but you can’t take the trailer park in Detroit out of the couple” is truly the statement that sums up their whole relationship 😂

[@potlife777]

I was buggin when he said that on bd

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

I prefer "you can take the bitch out the trailer park, but you can't take the bitch out the trailer park."

[@thepistolguy859]

Eminem never lived in a fucking trailer park

[@THEDOORIZCLOSED]

@@thepistolguy859 he only lived in one temporarily and i dont think it was in Detroit. But thats a stereotype folks put on him smh

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[@LuisJimenezAnimeGang]

Chrisean And Blueface: We're the most toxic couple In America! Eminem and Kim: Hold my wedding

[@MasamuneStreams]

Sid and Nancy: Hold my syringe 💉

[@whiskeywayne91]

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[@Mr.CoachBeaulieu]

Hold my divorce , Hold my domestic violence lol

[@michaelcorleone5740]

Corny

[@akramtulla28]

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[@thesalempyxis]

The fact that this guy talked about how eminems murder fatasy songs were masterclasses in rap, but talked about how badly the impact of Kims radio show appearances impacted marshall, makes me upset. Neither of them were innocent, but Marshall talking like that publically for all those years about Kim *absolutely* means she can go talk about her experiences as well.

[@Omotay0]

Did you even watch the video? Seriously? Kims appreance on radio shows did impact eminem negatively. It's not a opinion or him saying his mind. It's a literal documented *fact.* How is that biased? And is he not allowed to like eminems music? He didn't say he liked it because of its plot about Killing Kim. He said he liked it because of how perfectly eminem could portray a story in a rap. And how it was revolutionary for its time. It wasn't part of the video, he was simply just saying why he *personally* liked the song. There is no bias in this video. And really no reason it should, "make you upset"

[@idk-mk2pj]

​@@Omotay0buddy did YOU watch the video? The guy just flies past the fact that he made those songs and talks about how impressive it faces while just ignoring his disgusting language towards Kim. To be shamed and be killed in a rap song while he took their 3-4 yo daughter and got her to put vocals on that same song. But it's horrible for Marshall when Kim said his penis was small?

[@Omotay0]

@@idk-mk2pj Go argue with someone else ion got time to argue over Eminem

[@aq1184]

Not while he's paying her bills

[@bbbean]

Yeah this video was disgusting. Typical misogynistic view.

[@nanati5354]

Imagine you're in a toxic relationship, both ways are toxic, both parties have their own blame, but only one party has the power to write many songs about hurting and killing you, and a bunch of fans applauding it! When she talked about his genitals she was immediately called for that, but when he presented a song about killing her, no one stopped him! I Love Em, but there's no way I'm going to agree that he is the only victim at this crazy relationship!

[@ENFPSIS]

I agree. I love some of Em's songs but just because he's an artist doesn't mean we can excuse his behavior or put all the blame on Kim. Because he writes songs about killing her and stuff and gets people saying it's art.

[@KarloCarl]

welcome to patricharchy

[@grantkerr8298]

At least it is a patriarchal society that allows a woman - or, more generally, any grifting woman - to make millions of dollars despite having contributed literally nothing to said society. It's hardly the Handmaid's tale @@KarloCarl

[@Antacid420]

🤣🤣🤣slim shady

[@mrswizzlestickz2646]

Ngl I think she likes the publicity because throughout this whole video I've noticed that she's always doing interviews about it.

[@shoktek420]

Why yes, I am going to watch an almost 3 hour trap lore ross video about Kim and Eminem at noon on a tuesday. No, I'm not going to clock out.

[@kendizzle1987]

ABSOLUTE FUCKING SAME

[@Cheffory]

a man of culture

[@1stdegreetea494]

Damn where do y'all work? Plug me in!

[@boepaynepill318]

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[@noahm.7850]

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[@scottietrademark]

It's pretty rich that Eminem can air out all of their problems in songs that millions of people will listen to but Kim can't talk on the radio about her side too. Neither of them are "reliable narrators" but damn, pot calling the kettle black.

[@bernadettrojecki3452]

Rite and event if they didn’t get back together I think she should’ve be entitled to some money

[@Yamanai2]

The difference is that Eminem dramatizes and distorts or completely invents the actual stories he tells. Kim went on to air things out completely and specifically, not just to say "I want to kill Marshall".

[@brandonayong5823]

Eminem has the "artist card". He's using music to say it therefore people tune in more. Kim not being an artist just makes her a regular person complaining

[@brandonayong5823]

​​@@Yamanai2minem said MUCH more than just " I want to kill Kim" especially in later songs it was way more detailed and nuanced

[@jenniferbaldwin221]

The first amendment protects free speech. Not a bunch of _______ _______. Such as when Deangelo Bailey attempted to sue Eminem for slander. It was dismissed because that ____________ put him in a coma.

[@purpleshine6832]

He has made a career out of humiliating her but if she goes for an interview after years and years of putting up with it, it's "embarrassing for him and his family".

[@LetMeEatDem]

You reap what you sow.

[@numifiedv2722]

lol I just cliked on the vid and I never heard off her or payed attention in his songs to hearing that. He made her lol she is just a random female that got picked up as the main groupie

[@desssstinyy]

Bruh nobody cares stfu. If a guy fucked me over like that and the way I expressed my anger is by writing it I’mma fucking write about it. The first songs he ever made abt her he didn’t know was going to blow up..oops they did. I would say that’s karma…karma is a bitch.

[@diamondhfxizlit]

Infantile thought patterns 😂​@@numifiedv2722

[@flowsamarii]

I'm pretty sure nobody ever thought eminem was a good person

[@kimwhatmatters4085]

It’s impossible for a teenage Kim to get Debbie’s furniture taken away. Debbie obviously was late on the payments & it was repossessed. No one can take your things if you’re current on the payments

[@user-kn1so9mg8x]

fr thank you for clearing that they really act like the girl is the reason for all of their fucking problems especially debbie like she really tried to shift up the blame for fucking up Marshall onto her that’s disgusting

[@howgroovyisthat3160]

Omg I didn't catch that because I assumed that's what he meant, that's absolutely ridiculous. Typical 🙄

[@FightSportTalk]

Debbie has always blamed everything on Kim. If you read her interviews, whenever she gets asked about Em writing songs about her, refusing to see her, keeping Haile from her etc she would always find a way to blame it on Kim.

[@lamma746]

Exactly, Debbie isn’t a reliable narrator idk why he didn’t give a disclaimer about how narcissistic his mother was. Who would trust her.

[@user-kn1so9mg8x]

he isnt doing that because he has a narrative that is really close to hers lmao we can clearly see that he picked a side in a very nuanced situation that involves people he does not even know personally@@lamma746

[@connor4676]

i think you focus most of your criticism towards kim and deflect a lot of criticism towards marshall because of his music. when in reality her and him were both terrible partners and parents

[@lilmilkyt8087]

Em, awful parent to jade

[@Hannah-qq7uf]

well one of them kept talking about killing the other one, slapping her calling her fat and ugly and waiting infront of her work is aktually stalking, that is the kind of abuse that gets really scary

[@inyrui]

@@Hannah-qq7uf it's not abuse to write a song saying you want to beat someone up. It's abuse when you beat them up

[@Hannah-qq7uf]

@@inyrui that is wrong...its called verbal abuse...threatening with violence is a crime. He did say it to her face not only in a song

[@inyrui]

@Hannah 12 aktually, if it's in a song it's artistic expression. That's why artists can say any number of fucked up things in a song and not get in trouble

[@SweetGirl4ver]

People here talking badly about Kim forget that Eminem was never the innocent victim. He started cheating on her and had many mistresses. Kim only took revenge of his infidelities which was wrong of her, but it’s documented how fame and drugs changed Eminem. Neither was innocent!

[@viovenda8922]

He was literally awful and violent. I dont like that all the blame lands on Kim. Men struggle so hard to see fault in other men, it's ridiculous.

[@CBrown86]

Its bullshit. “Omg she SPIT on him!” Give me a break. Dude fantasized about making their child dispose of her corpse.

[@Evute02]

@@CBrown86 He seems to have fantasised frequently about violence towards women and young girls in general. I can think of Christina Aguilera as a close second. I’m pretty sure he rapped about wanting to “drag her down by her hair” or something? A mess. I guess it’s the product of being a rapper though, and his image.

[@kevihanz]

@@cinnamonbun1354 they're literally two years apart

[@RevertedRashidah]

@@kevihanz so you’re cool with 15 year old boys creeping on 13 year old girls? That’s a 10th grader and an 8th grader. You’re a creep if you’re into that

[@anthonygillette]

2:15:14 I think you’re missing something here. Kim was 13 when they met. The chances she was coming into this with the intent of “controlling him” are very slim. Idk, I think Debbie’s biography is extremely bias to Marshall.

[@elbalondehistoria5160]

Yeah also i think nobody talk about the WHOLE relationship

[@heisenberg4406]

The only thing everyone can agree on is that Debbie Mathers was a horrible person to both of them

[@rj7790]

This is such a weird run down. Very much casting this light over Eminem of being a victim even when you say the awful things he’s done and making Kim to be a monster. They’re both fucked up individuals clearly

[@AndreNDP]

The shit he did and said was in response.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

He literally just told exactly what they did, it isn't casting Eminem in a sympathetic light

[@rj7790]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 maybe we watched different videos

[@andinkify]

I didn't know Eminem had made so made so many songs about killing Kim. She became a punchbag in the public eye and no one said anything. That would hurt anyone's mental health

[@palaiis]

right!! she became famous against her own will in the most negative way and was pretty much the most hated woman in America. like damn

[@entertainmentjunkie]

Neither did I! I thought it was just Kim

[@chuck9380]

He was her 🥊 punching bag for years before

[@sbadiyahaustin]

@chuck9380 when it was between he and her. she became the world’s punching bag because of his notoriety.

[@bdorf3719]

Good. Fuck her lmao finally a woman who actually had to take accountability and deal with the consequences of her actions.

[@ay1029]

not to be that guy but you sound awfully biased towards debbie and marshall. the fact that you seem to have taken everything debbie said about kim at face value is questionable, as debbie is a known liar and twisted the narrative multiple times to make herself seem like the loving, troubled mother who did her best with marshall, which is part of the reason he was so angry with her to begin with. none of them were saints, they were ALL toxic and horrible towards each other but you seem to be shitting on kim the most as if she single-handedly ruined marshall’s life… we so quickly forget how self-destructive he was on his OWN.

[@lizzsmith7126]

be that guy! agreed.

[@osehietomi123]

exactly, and calling Kim Naive because she said she thought he'd be faithful after they got married, was messed up. And she's supposed to understand that he'll cheat after getting famous, but when she kisses someone else we are supposed to understand how upset and angry that made him???. Super biased

[@MoMo-jb8sm]

Idk I think I heard "according to her".

[@thetruth5864]

let me guess, your a woman?

[@lounielouna7556]

see I knew I wasn't the only one who thought he was being biased lol

[@supgaw]

There's a lot of passive sexism to this story. And I'm not saying it's even intentional. From the beginning of the video, Kim is casually described as abusive before giving any examples of physical, verbal, sexual, or emotional violence. Outside of the potentially bias opinion of an unreliable narrator, Debbie Mathers, who described her as manipulative and toxic but not abusive. Then, describes Eminem's vivid, gory, step by step death threats through music as disturbing but genius in their musicianship. Chalked up as a hard pill to swallow - not abuse. Without self reflection, this sexist narrative building has real world consequences. I would really caution against this.

[@hattarapilvi]

such a good comment, thank you

[@springrain9438]

Spot on! You would make a fine juror on any trial.

[@batmanscock]

Welcome to hiphop 😂

[@Karlach_]

You have zero proof any of that was about Kim's gender. Stop trying to get internet points by stoking the culture war loser.

[@aq1184]

Many sources claim she was extremely abusive, but yall can't handle any level of accountability on your side of things so you probably won't respond to this.

[@trashbasket11]

It was wrong.....of her......to expect him not to cheat after he married her......sir why are you like this?

[@heisenberg4406]

I’m guessing his logic was that because she cheated on him in the past that that gave him the right to do it to, weird logic but I guess that was his mindset

[@Petruskinhap972]

Their story was shocking to me when I was a teen. Now as an adult, it makes perfect sense. Two very poor, dysfunctional families. Foster system. Drugs. Young children. It’s a recipe for disaster. That’s all so very common. This is the story of so many American couples. It’s nothing especial. His story was magnified to the world to see because he was famous. He seemed to have done a good job raising those girls, though. And provided a comfortable life to all his family. That’s all we could ask for.

[@AquaticStarchild]

It is special when your spouse not only has fantasies of killing you but also spread that disrespect through the world, literally encouraging his fans to emulate his own behavior. Stan is based on true events from a guy who thought Marshall would understand when he killed his girlfriend. Em is responsible for encouraging violence against women and y'all just act like it's some private dysfunctional relationship and not abuse.

[@SJ-ni6iy]

Poverty really messes people up and it trauma bonds a lot of couples. You’re exactly right, his story isn’t special, that’s why his songs resonate with so many people. I’m not a fan myself but I’m from the 4th poorest state in America and I see the destruction poverty causes.

[@luckygallagladi]

@@AquaticStarchild I've seen multiple times people say Stan is based on true events but I've never been able to find a single piece of evidence that says it was. Every source on the subjects says it isn't.

[@entertainmentjunkie]

@@AquaticStarchild tell us you hate Eminem without telling us you hate Eminem 🙄😒

[@entertainmentjunkie]

@@luckygallagladi it’s not it’s a song and story that ‘‘em made up

[@yellowhouse4911]

I'm glad the comments reflect what I was thinking. This feels extremely biased. There is no doubt that both parties were toxic and at fault but acting like Ems multiple songs about brutally killing kim were just lyrical masterpieces and him expressing his feelings while calling Kim doing an interview after what, 15 17 years? For the first time and clapping back vengeful and petty? Neither were innocent in all of this and at times you failed to properly represent that

[@kamfisher1714]

Not biased whatsoever, clean your ears

[@RIPPEDPANTYHOSEGORL]

To be fair… She was beating him & abusing him badly so he probably just snapped and let it out through his music…. I was in a relationship like this and sometimes it’s all you can do is finds ways to cope. Then you start to hate them & want to hurt them like they hurt you.

[@Renizzle448]

No, I think what you wanted was for Kim to look like a victim. No matter what kind of abuse it is, it can be mutual. I think he showed a great depiction of both sides being horrible people.

[@Renizzle448]

@@basicknowledge12wz honestly you’ll just never know so idk why people still bring this up. If anything it was mutual.

[@lil7725]

You’re not taking chronology into account though. When Em made those songs, it was during the middle of their heated phase. When Kim did those interviews, it was after they supposedly agreed to leave the negativity behind. So it’s not the same thing.

[@user-fn6vm5tb8p]

Their relationship is a classic example of the tragic pattern that people with abusive and neglectful parents are doomed to repeat unless they identify, address and heal their parental attachment wounds. We are attracted to a person based on our attachment styles, that’s why people who attract toxic relationships tend to be stuck in a subconscious cycle of toxicity. If you have a traumatic past, or had/have abusive, neglectful parents, then I plead with you all to look into your attachment style and work with a counsellor and do the inner work to stop the cycle. Eminem was attracted to someone who was as broken as him, and especially because she was able to help him mirror the toxic relationship dynamic he had with his mother. It’s a classic story. We could never win over the love of that distant parent that was never satisfied, no matter how hard we tried to earn their love. So we are attracted to emotionally unavailable people who will re enact that dynamic with us, however, what most people stuck in that cycle don’t realise is that they too are emotionally unavailable. If you tend to get into relationships where there is a runner and a chaser, you are both emotionally unavailable. I realised this after my last relationship and spent 4.5 years doing as much inner work to heal as possible. Now I’m attracted to and have attracted someone who isn’t running. The work is lifelong, but it’s worth it. If you are dealing with attachment wounds, it will get better just don’t give up. Keep working on yourself no matter how hard it gets! God bless

[@wintermonroe2894]

💯🎯 💕

[@gracecandelaria406]

Wao this is cool u sharing this, thank u for putting this out here ao others can do the same But would like to understand the chase and running thing😊

[@themorrigan7702]

​@@gracecandelaria406they mean the Twin Flame dynamic that everyone is obsessed with

[@chestnut4860]

My life isn't even remotely like enimins (sheltered nerdy socially awkward upbringing) but I like this a lot more than the standard reddit advice of "If you have had multiple bad partners you're probably actually the asshole"

[@user-fn6vm5tb8p]

@@themorrigan7702 I never referred to the term ‘Twin Flame’, that’s a new age philosophy I don’t ascribe to. It’s a dangerous concept to be wary of. I’m just talking about psychology, but I appreciate your response, thank you 😊

[@babygirlshari4223]

As much as i love Eminem blaming kim for everything is so wrong they both had crazy things and doing crazy things to each other. Plus knowing Eminem's relationship with his mom Debby its really crazy to take anything that woman says as truth. Em has stated himself multiple times that she can't even admit to the wrong doings she's done. Kim had every right to speak up for her self after Em painted the picture so long.

[@Omotay0]

He never blamed Kim for anything. He constantly sympathizes for kim throughout the video. ex 1:00:19 Don't really know why you're trying to make it seem like trap lore Ross is biased when that's something he's never been.

[@idk-mk2pj]

​@@Omotay0he kinda is? He just flies past the fact that he made songs about killing her and talks like it's "relatable" like wtf?

[@lilyelverum3141]

I feel like its important to acknowledge that Debbie is an unreliable narrator, so at the end of the day, we have to take stories from her as just stories from her

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Found it most funny when she said Kim was the root of all his problems. You sure it wasn't anything else, Debbie?

[@SPFAlpha]

Don't trust anybody from Detroit

[@Monk-eee]

the whole family is good at storytelling, just Em made it work for him while they used his fame to make their stories "Try" and work for them but they don't have the talent he does and never will......eveer!

[@amal-wo2ww]

@@SPFAlpha em wouldn’t be very happy with your statement

[@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube]

@@amal-wo2ww but if he was honest with himself he’d know it was true.

[@Ciscokidcapo]

Even as an Eminem fan,I feel like you dropped the ball on this one man, they were both accountable for their actions.

[@thedarkmage7373]

Ross pointed out situations that they were both abusive towards eachother multiple times. how did he drop the ball.

[@chuck9380]

You do a documentary telling your point of view then Stan

[@kamfisher1714]

Yes because Kim getting pregnant by a known drug dealer was so good

[@HayleyGardening22]

Totally agree. He used the narrative that Kim kept going back to Em because she wanted a piece of the fame/money pie, even though she didn’t ask for a prenup. It’s a classic case of her being in a trauma-bond, a constant cycle of love-bombing then abuse, over and over again. Granted they’re both toxic but this youtuber is very naive towards abusive relationships and doesn’t have a psychological understanding. It’s lame to suggest a woman getting back with her baby daddy is because she’s a gold digger 😤.

[@DylanPorto45]

clearly dont have good comprehension. ross makes it known Em was the issue from the jump…that it wasnt just shorty causing issues

[@jerriapproves]

I don’t think we can judge who is the one more in fault in this toxic relationship since both of them didn’t grow up in a healthy environment. They don’t know how to have a healthy one, especially when they met each other when they only like 13-15.

[@savannahskye9441]

I’m not saying Kim’s right but I am saying she was absolutely abused

[@uchegbudivine6885]

Em was physically abusive too

[@subice2158]

Marshall wrote a song about murdering a 4 year old and stalked Kim but you’re still gonna paint her as the only abuser lmao

[@elfie2555]

what was the song about the 4 years old and please how did he stalk Kim ? :(

[@Jraven847]

Better writing than doing it

[@LethalJizzle]

​@elfie2555 In the video he calls the song "Just the two of us" but I think the album song title is Bonnie & Clyde '97. He raps about killing all of them, including the entirely innocent 4 year old boy, and dumping their bodies in a lake.

[@michaelwood8130]

No he doesn't go listen again he raps about getting rid of kim and Kim only! Never once does he say anything about killing his 4 year old he's going off with her at the end to live a happy life together 💯

[@pdxkell]

@@LethalJizzle idk where you got that from. basically the song is about him disposing of kims body with his baby daughter by his side and the no more brother line is because hypothetically killing kim gets rid of her affair relation stuff with her other boyfriend and his son they were never killed in the song though its literally jus kim. Last thing eminem would do is rap about hurting hailey lmao

[@Chikara199]

"So deeply in love that he would rather die than live without her." ?! That is not love, my dude, that is an abusive possiveness and obsession.

[@jdtr3759]

There was definitely abuse on both sides but you’re going to act like love doesn’t have that effect on people?

[@amandaterrio4823]

It’s the exact way I feel about my husband and we have a wonderful relationship

[@francescapowell1538]

My uncles ex has a brother who stabbed himself in the heart when his wife left him. Always seemed off key to me that someone would do something like that because someone doesn’t want to be with them anymore. Yes, breakups hurt and there is a grieving process married or not, but man you got to live a respect yourself and the fact that your mother gave birth to you to live YOUR life and not live it for someone else. That’s mental illness right there.

[@jdtr3759]

@@francescapowell1538 you’re right you never should kill yourself but people do for less than that sometimes

[@aw2584]

​@@jdtr3759it's not even that, it's just how in this telling of the story Eminem is always "just being an artist" or "fking up but with reasons" and Kim is "this crazy bitxh" like bruh they both retarded. I'm no social justice warrior or nothing but I legitimately got angry at like 2h into the video when Ross complains about Kim doing some interviews about their marriage when half of Eminems career was rapping about murdering her, and literally saying "oh but he's done that in the past so she shouldn't have done that" like bruh she spoke up once after having millions of people hate her guts and she's rhe bad guy in the story. Honestly how Ross made this video not about two extremely abusive and unstable people but about poor Eminem who has his faults but was so abused by his crazy gf is fucking beyond me lmao

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Crazy how your perspective changes over time. When "Kim" and "'97 Bonnie & Clyde" dropped, I could totally relate to what he was saying as an angsty teen. As an adult? Disgusting. And I have to give Kim props for hanging in there after being called out/threatened so publicly. Did he care how that'd affect their daughter? Those songs are forever, unlike a temporarily painful divorce. Seems he only has the guts to punch down on women since the pushback from gays happened & we all know he'd never dare say anything race-based in the rap game. There *was* that time he made a rap about a Black woman that was both racist AND sexist. 🤮

[@kristoamadeus4441]

Yea knowing I listened to him religiously in middle school makes me cringe. I think he’s calm down now but still a ignorant man

[@projectc.j.j3310]

Shut up his music was better when he was “disgusting”

[@Meme-in6xq]

The rap about the black girl was a hundred years ago when he was a kid and he apologized for it.

[@littleredsubmarine]

When your entire life has been struggle, toxicity and drama - when you don’t have it, you subconsciously seek it because that is your normal. That is your baseline. When you can’t find it - you subconsciously create it yourself. The only person I feel sorry for in all of this is their poor child.

[@TaliaDaSilva]

Not this guy saying that Kim was naive expecting her husband be faithful to her 🤣🤣 how dare she right

[@kadariuscooper8051]

But if he wasn’t faithful to him before why would he be faithful to her🤨

[@tessajericho]

Can't agree with this more, I actually laughed out loud when he said that 😂

[@yagirl2124]

@@kadariuscooper8051 you seem confused. here is the timeline - em and kim get together at 13 and 15 - em cheats on kim at 18. she forgives him and they get back together - em writes the song “kim” in 1997-1998 BEFORE he was even famous, or BEFORE kim even had another child - em blows up. he goes on tour - they both start cheating on each other. - kim is pregnant by another man - they both continue cheating - they get divorced

[@chazaq2010]

Yea you’re naive thinking a 20 something year old music star touring the world is only having sex with you……you’re being completely delusional. Some people prefer to be lied to tho

[@elbalondehistoria5160]

​@yagirl2124 mf kim have the baby after breaking up

[@poodster96]

When I was 14 I had a 17 year old boyfriend, one day when we were fighting in his car he put on Kim and screamed the whole song at me while driving up to 90 miles an hour and swerving on the road. I can’t imagine how many other abusive men have used his songs to terrorize their victims

[@Valentineatelier]

Praying and hoping you’re out of that situation and healed from that

[@lilphatfit]

Dude I wanted to cry just reading . I hope you’re doing good tho ❤

[@SadGirlsRUs]

You poor angel I hope you’re okay now & I hope he got his karma I’m happy you’re still here

[@coffeecrimegal5968]

What a tall tale… 🙄 I guess you never imagined, oops I mean thought to hit the power button on the car stereo?!

[@lexsosa1318]

@@coffeecrimegal5968 or the volume button ?

[@lowkeyfallasleep9511]

This is a perfect precursor to what toxic relationships from people who need help look like.

[@gigi2k326]

Only 20 minutes in.. Eminem is by far my favorite artist of all time! Bought all his music and still listen today. But come on, kim wasn't the only aggressor in that relationship.

[@thandore]

Who said she was

[@kristoamadeus4441]

@@thandorethe language this guy uses.

[@sararobinson6571]

It’s amazing neither of them ended up losing their lives. Toxic relationships never end well!

[@ilovegot7754]

But if Eminem never became a successful rapper, he would have become a serial killer and his first victim would have been Kim, he's not a good man he's just a rich man now.

[@evievi8453]

Kim actually tried to commit suicide Not too long ago

[@thephantomoftheparadise5666]

Too miserable to go through with it.

[@multivitamin6649]

I feel like if em never got famous then they would have been a story on a true crime podcast

[@yagirl2124]

@@evievi8453 actually she said on facebook that it wasn’t a suicide attempt. she was just cutting herself because she’s very sick mentally and wanted to feel pain, but she said she didn’t intend to die

[@yes24__]

it's scary how he wrote songs wanting to kill Kim.. and no one really cared or thought that he needed help

[@Yes_Anastasia]

Uh…I did.

[@nothanks6549]

In 8th grade I listened to that song "Kim" exactly once. It made me super uncomfortable to listen to. Any friends who I said that to treated me like I was being soft.

[@alexrader5822]

This whole video goes in to people’s reactions saying that he is crazy… there were a lot of very vocal people saying he needed help

[@Xtino1989X]

Bc at that time everyone was more worried about icp where every song on there multiple albums are about murder

[@caittails]

EVERYONE cared and thought he needed help, but you can’t really do anything just based on songs. They’re legally not allowed to be considered real threats except in very specific situations.

[@JaneQPublic]

Toxic relationships aren’t always due to a toxic person- sometimes water and oil just don’t mix and continuing to try just gets volatile

[@brandonwalters9437]

The hardest part about be a Em fan from day 1 is knowing that he became everything he was against and doesn’t even realize it. Still a fan but he is another famous, rich, completely out of touch celeb. If he was tossed back into those days he wouldn’t support so much stupid shit. That’s just true.

[@johngalt1967]

When we stare into the abyss, it stares back into us

[@DirtSpeedman]

Debbie is the key to all of Marshall and Kim's madness. She basically adopted Kim at 13, She raised them to be completely dysfunctional and then divided them. Say what you will about Kim but Debbie has been influencing her life for 35 years

[@THEDOORIZCLOSED]

And kim is a manifestation of Ems dysfunction with his mother. He had a pull and tug relationship with his mother and that behavior spilled into his marriage

[@sazonada]

I loved the part where Debbie said Kim, a physically and sexually abused child was the root of all the problems in his life. Sure. Let's go with that. Couldn't be anyone else influential in his life, right?

[@giaparmer]

I also thought it was very weird that this 50 year old woman was writing about what a horrible nightmare this 13 year old child was as if there was no other way for Kim to be, I think if you see a child in so much toxic distress you should do something about it instead of blaming them.

[@Melanin2670]

Kin bio mom needs her az whipped

[@veronikavolition6395]

uhm...the mere fact that Kim played such a vindictive game by keeping Em off Hayley's birth certificate...is a shining star example of how evil she could act on her own. Debbie had good intentions by taking them in, even if it got messy. If it got messy cuz she opened up her family then yeah maybe she shouldn't have done it. But at least the intention was good. But someone who plays as twisted of games as with that birth certificate? That shows who someone is at their core.

[@erynz]

i thought this video was about the toxic relationship between kim and eminem not a dickriding dedication to slim shady lmao every other point this dude makes is how amazing and fantastic eminem is immediately after explaining a song he wrote about literally murdering and shoving the lifeless corpse of the mother to his child inside of trunk and how he gaslit her into thinking the song was a compliment

[@sabrinacano4275]

this feels very biased. When Kim does some thing you frame her as a bad guy but when Eminem does something 10 times worse you say he’s a changed man……

[@StarryNightxx]

Em's mother pulling the same exact abuse on Kim, playing hero by doing the bare minimum of allowing her in their house, and then saying in that book that Kim was lying about the traumatic experiences she went through is just so sad. It is no wonder that the two are both messed up, and how they still have so much love and empathy for each other.

[@caittails]

The bare minimum of letting her stay there is actually legally kidnapping, so it’s a mess all around.

[@DylanPorto45]

and what about the part where Kims homie said it was all Kim🤣regardless no one really knows what happened cuz everyone was tryna catch a bag of their crazy lives

[@TheNinjaNiky]

Idk, his mom won't the lawsuit against him so.. he's clearly exaggerating some lol

[@blazefairchild465]

I have read his mom was bi polar, this show said he was bipolar. Then else where Kim was supposedly bipolar. Lord help that child if they all are mentally disabled.

[@kerryalfaro9437]

@@caittails it's far from kidnapping.. ESPECIALLY WHEN HER OWN MOTHER WAS GLAD SHE LIVED WITH THEN, KIM LEAVING WAS ONE LESS MOUTH TO FEED

[@kidflashiv]

It’s amazing to see how tame and different Eminem is now because back then, he was beyond wild.

[@aleco678]

No positive role models in childhood will do that. Read that again, it takes people like that longer to grow up, but if they want to grow up they will reach that goal a little later than people with 2 loving parents in a happy household. Tuff out here (before people come at me some people that makes tougher and more mature, not everyone is the same)

[@Swiss816]

@@aleco678 Kinda a miracle. If he had positive role models they probably woulda told him not to write or put out that song about killing Kim. He woulda never got that buzz that got him to the rap Olympics to be seen by Dre.

[@warshallwathers7971]

It’s quite inspirational 🥹

[@aleco678]

@@Swiss816 absolutely. This is true for a lot of unique talents, one that comes to mind for me in recent news is Francis ngannou. His story is unbelievable

[@chrisholm9789]

@@aleco678 it’s true I didn’t get my shit together til 30 working with dudes that were way younger as a 1st year apprentice

[@sir_will_iam]

I still havent recovered mentally from the song "Kim". By far the most disturbing song I've heard in my life.

[@reneesimerale]

Well shite now I gotta listen to it...😮

[@Nnnnnnnnnn2001]

Well then you should listen to bonnie and cylde, even more disturbing

[@uchegbudivine6885]

Nah meet the graham is

[@matthewkolonics1392]

Don’t understand why everyone’s making Kim look like an angel in the comments😂 they were both in the wrong at times

[@undertakerblaise256]

Brooooo, it’s a woman thing 😂😂😂. Makes no sense whatsoever

[@aaliyahhernandez223]

Dude...Kim is NOT at fault for everything. This is really biased. Whenever you speak about Eminem, it's 100% positive and he's 100% the victim. The complete opposite for Kim. She's fucked up but so is he. They are bad for each other. I hope when Eminem got better, she got better too. I wish nothing but the best for both of them.

[@DrSimpleBeauty]

2:39:13

[@palladium607]

Absolutely agree

[@mave143]

Thank you

[@lunasalem8264]

this video is very antagonistic towards women, actually.

[@KRL1999]

I feel bad for both of them. Two kids born into toxic families who found each other and tried to build a life, then used each other as an outlet for their pain.

[@six7264]

"I don't think that anyone in the rap game has attempted anything as emotionally potent before or since". Meanwhile Kendrick remembered he was conflicted...misusing his influence...abusing his power, full of resentment. Resentment that turned into a deep depression. Found himself screaming in a hotel room. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[@eric6cartman9]

didn't want to self destruct the evils of Lucy was all around me I went running for answers

[@six7264]

@@eric6cartman9 Until I went home. But that didn't stop survivor's guilt.

[@reynaa.c0m932]

finally found real kendrick fans 💯

[@emmamckearney4297]

Said perfectly

[@kic7009]

Gay

[@CherryJuli]

I feel like a lot of these high school sweetheart relationships are toxic. A lot of these people never learn how to have a grown up relationship and are stuck in their ways of not being able to handle their teenager like emotions.

[@fayfayfunches]

Normally I think you’re fairly non biased but there was A LOT of victim blaming towards Kim. Have some empathy for someone who was an obvious victim and was in a position where she was reliant on him from childhood. I’m glad she made it out of the relationship without him doing what he constantly talked about.

[@del7988]

😂

[@fayfayfunches]

Because victims of abuse never have their family side against them? Especially when the family wasn’t supportive in the first place and the abuser is influential and wealthy? Ok lol

[@idk-mk2pj]

​@@mattm6200two wrongs don't make a right bro

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@fayfayfunchesKim was never a victim to em. She literally physically abused him she cheated first as well, spit on him and witheld her daughter from him. She deserved everything she got

[@elbalondehistoria5160]

​@@Asvpsupreme bro thanks fibally someone that knows that em cheated after kim you are the fucking GOAT!!!!!!!

[@Kairibeachga]

I feel so bad for their kids. They did not deserve to be a part of their toxicity

[@warshallwathers7971]

Regardless Eminem and Kim still managed to raise their daughters rightfully

[@FrankYammy]

They still rich asf

[@Deenique16]

Hailey went to college idk about the other daughter he adopted tho.

[@FrankYammy]

@@Deenique16 A two second google search found that they both went to college and he has three kids

[@patsysadowski1546]

He adopted Kim’s other child and her niece. All 3 are happy, stay out of the fame largely and went to college.

[@swisherfairy]

The sympathetic tone toward Eminem and demonization of Kim is not cute.. like he wrote multiple songs about murdering her, mimicked assaulting her on stage in front of thousands of people triggering a suicide attempt, but somehow this wasn’t given the same gravity as her saying he has a small penis 💀 it’s so different, if anything eminem was set on destroying her life, the power dynamic needs to be taken into account as 1) he’s a man 2) he’s super wealthy + 3) he has millions of fans who will hate whoever he says he hates. Kim disrespecting him is toxic and not okay, but it’s nowhere near the same as what Eminem did to her in my opinion and the fact that this video is clearly on Eminem’s side rather than painting a fully unbiased picture of the toxic relationship is gross.

[@swisherfairy]

And FR, how can anyone claim that Eminem was trying to make things better when he was still putting out + performing + profiting off of music detailing his violent murder fantasies against the mother of his child? In what way is that trying to fix things💀

[@Iamnatiplug]

She cheated and did him dirty first she fucked him up mentally when they were young and was cheating massage parlor with guest and manager. Before the fame even after him getting famous he tried to take care of her. Yes the songs were too much. But she did him dirty before all that everything after his fame is irrelevant she constantly admitted she didnt have faith or even want him to get famous or have success bc some how that ruined there family but all she did first didny?? Females have a lot of control over young men. He did a lot of fucked uo shit in his music towards her but they should not have been running back to each other. If she was loving and supportive from the jump. He woulda never acted like that. But then there wouldn’t have been a eminem in the first place

[@animaIpath]

cry more lmao

[@bcal8118]

Boo hoo

[@thedarkmage7373]

Would you rather he repress it until it actually happened instead of letting his rage out in a more positive way.

[@johngilbreth5519]

As he stated in his song w Rihanna ( When a tornado meets a volcano)Kinda summarized their relationship.

[@alyssarodriguez4041]

I’m dying at the viewer discretion pop up on this video 😂

[@sww3405]

It’s kinda strange to me that you keep reiterating how “relatable” his lyrics are. Somehow I doubt that most men fantasize about murdering their wives/mothers of their children. If that’s really the case… we’re screwed.

[@jamieryan337]

They do. Believe that. Anger bitterness and resentment are ultra common in todays marriage. These fantasies are just a manifestation of those emotions men have, but are shamed into silencing.

[@salvatore5553]

@@jamieryan337 might be the most stupid thing I’ve heard in a while

[@Lylah-bo9vp]

You'd be surprised. Why else do you think so many support and make excuses for em and Andrew tate?

[@ronaldo-it4xb]

hes talking about the anger that is relatable not actually murdering there wives lol

[@jessicarichter6436]

I’m a woman and his lyrics are relatable. It’s not just the Kim song that is relatable your ignoring the fact he’s spoke about deep meaningful things like extreme poverty, parental childhood abuse, addiction, parenthood, domestic violence, discrimination, racism, politics, motivation, love, heartbreak, sobriety, grief, death and so much more. All of that is relatable to millions of people worldwide from every race, country and social class I.e poor to rich across the globe that’s why he’s an incredible story teller and relatable artist staying no.1 in the charts. You can’t pick one horrorcore theme to discredit him as not relatable and music is therapy for him the song isn’t real he obviously didn’t kill Kim or act it out he was just expressing his deep hurt & rage during an abusive relationship not a normal relationship. Just like movie writers making horror films they don’t actually commit the crimes.

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

You clearly grew up listening to Em and thus you're incapable of separating the way he made you feel better, from the way he made real people's lives worse. They're both guilty, period.

[@NS_Count]

Facts I mean I’ve been a fan of em for years but he definitely was in the wrong for some of these situations

[@Tw0Dots]

Same & I love Em! but there were some weird bits in this vid… Lots dont talk an Em enabling incels

[@jbslimshaddy]

This!!! The whole thing just seemed like him fanboying.

[@matthewfrye2809]

I work 12 hour shifts in a QA lab on 3rd shift. I've been getting into a lot of podcasts, but this is the content I've been looking for the past year. I can't believe it took this long to find TLR, but I'm stoked that I did. I've been a DJ, a musician since I was 13, and have forever had interest in the history of music, but never knew I could be this interested in the history of hip hop and the factors relating to it. Ross, you do an amazing job at pulling together info, and presenting it in a manner that absolutely mesmerizes me. That is no small feat in itself. Keep it up, my guy!

[@hattarapilvi]

the misogyny is off the charts in this video lmfao. the amount of men that relate to his extremely violent lyrics about wanting to brutally kill women is fucking scary. no wonder femicide is a huge issue in almost every country on the planet 🙂🙃

[@user-rf1op3uh6n]

I don't think you truely understand the reason he wrote this song, and said the things he said. When you have genuinely nobody who loves you, then you get angry. As much as it disturbs me what he wrote, I think anybody would agree that writing this down and channeling his feelings into song would be infinitely better than actually following through with it.

[@springrain9438]

Femicide is the real epidemic that no one likes to talk about til it happens to them personally.

[@kristoamadeus4441]

@@user-rf1op3uh6nbetter not excusable

[@user-pc8rq3yy9w]

Women comment shit like this and wonder why misogyny exists

[@bajorekjon]

Where is femicide the biggest problem? Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East. AKA places that have never heard of Eminem. Get real

[@larrybaygaming]

I was checking the public records a couple years ago out of curiosity and it looks like Eminem still put Kim, his mom and Kim’s family up in big homes in nice neighborhoods. Really inspiring how he can go through so much with these people and still make sure they’re taken care of. That’s the position I want my business to put me in

[@benjaminnguyen554]

😎

[@silasarpagaus3520]

even if it was due to hatred, Kim definitely inspired Em to be what he is today

[@manuelestevez3982]

I think it’s hard to hold a grudge against somebody who is the spitting image of your daughter

[@annamaria9073]

It's probably easier on his mental health to do that than to not. And on the mental health of his daughter, too.

[@boepaynepill318]

WytePeople Love Eminem MethMusic and HerionMusic because they love Needles and Bad Teeth😅 WTM ..Wyte Teeth Matter✊🏾

[@princessmonokae]

Em made a career off constantly trashing his relationship. There many clips showing that he was verbally abusive calling her fat and worthless to her face and whole albums threating physical abuse and homicide, not only Kim but including an innocent 4 year old. Even going so far as to tattoo. But it's all Kim's fault because she didn't support him going on the road cheating on her and wishing her death to his adoring fans. The worst Kim did was to "cheat" on him twice after he did so dozens of times her and saying that he was bad in bed. Maybe Kim keeping his child from him was a bit too far but why would she want her daughter around him when he treats her so badly. I don't understand how people can see Kim as the villian.

[@suzanneetc]

100

[@sabisweet]

Because she’s a woman. That always seems to be enough for society

[@SadGirlsRUs]

My thoughts exactly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@KaayBeeee]

Right? I found this take quite bizarre, misogynistic

[@Hannah-qq7uf]

@@KaayBeeee thank you this video made me so upset

[@mystique3962]

I was halfway thru the king von video ☹️

[@DLAMman641]

I was 2 i should of never refreshed my screen

[@rsoisaiah]

😂😂😂the commercial you did was insane

[@wildhearts242]

I hope Kim is doing better now. She still has a very young son (Parker) who needs her. Em and Kim were extremely toxic. Breaking up saved them both!

[@1parker770]

yeah i need her

[@coreyjones8120]

Shut up

[@aleco678]

@@1parker770 lol

[@bennismukiza8002]

@@1parker770 lmfaooo

[@jluchette]

@@1parker770bruh you gonna let Marshall do your momma like that. You should go Stan’s little brother Matthew on that fool

[@tootalo]

kind of disappointed (but not surprised) how biased the youtuber is about there relationship. describing only kim as the "toxic" and "vitriolic" member of the relationship, even after telling us about em's violent outbursts, infidelity and emotional abuse. shes the toxic one, shes the one ruining this crap relationship that should not exist. i'm not at all saying kim is innocent, but rap fanboys sure love to imply that eminem was never abusive. hell you point out kim being inconsistent as a reason not to trust her word, but brush over the fact em was also inconsistent with his retelling of events. i appreciate the hard work put into this video and i did enjoy watching it, but i couldn't ignore thus issue.

[@palaiis]

yeah he lost me when he was basically saying "I can't believe Kim would expect Eminem would be faithful to his wife while on tour" like ???

[@tigerlily1118]

He also called Kim a narcissist. Like Eminem wasn't ALSO exhibiting Narcisstic behavior. 😂 Seriously. Dude has some crazy fan bot double standards.

[@oxycodin2253]

L

[@tootalo]

@@oxycodin2253 I know right? Eminem is such a loser!

[@yagirl2124]

@@oxycodin2253 how and why

[@ivy_lilac3]

Absolutely love this detailed and comprehensive retelling thank you

[@joleneroup6277]

This is brilliant, thank you so much for making it!

[@cosmonauthal7651]

If anyone made it to the end of this video and took a side either Em or Kim you clearly missed that these people have been so awful to each other over the years that both of them really don’t have a argument that they are “the good one”.

[@LaBrew]

Totally agree. They were totally toxic to each other. Some people just cannot be together. Kim's cousin or whoever that was always talking about her or the relationship between she and Eminem irritated me. It wasn't her business to tell. I really don't like either Kim or Em, but it's a Trap video, so I watched 😆

[@kevinzhu6417]

people who don't have nuance try to simplify things to a good vs bad world view. they're obviously stupid but it's such a common perspective.

[@paulwaswalrus5956]

Exactly... there's no heroes in that story

[@bushidobot8251]

Yea, but Kim sucks at rapping!

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

@@paulwaswalrus5956 meh, they're all doing better than 99.9% of the rest of us at this point.

[@ZANcomix]

I don't know exactly where the line between musical catharsis and public verbal abuse is, but I can safely say Em passed that line by thousands of miles, decades ago.

[@uchegbudivine6885]

Nah rap passed that line long ago

[@IAmTheAstralTraveler]

You make work just a little bit more bearable thank you for always delivering alot of content creators tend gloss over important details bug you never miss a beat.

[@Kelbonobo]

Trap Lore should do a doc on the life and career of Michel’le and how abusive Dr. Dre was towards her

[@idk-mk2pj]

Also the dee Barnes thing

[@amandaclbn8324]

Based on this video it’ll be 80% praising Dre’s talents and minimising his abusive habits

[@TamESQ]

It goes without saying that Em will never love another woman like he loved Kim, no matter how toxic they were for each other.

[@hopereilly9306]

My favorite part of the video is when he was describing the lyrics of the Bonnie and Clyde type song Eminem wrote about k!ll!ng his baby mama and hiding the evidence with his daughter, and after we are given the whole gruesome summary of the lyrics, he basically said “ yeah the song is pretty rough, but the storytelling here is just so incredible!” I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard in my life 😂 like… the criminal threat is bad, but did you see the use of his vocabulary and how engaging he made it for the audience?!

[@xejelah]

It's like pretty privilege for lyrics.

[@nocreativename]

He gives him a pass. Smh the bias lol

[@1st_gamer484]

not that different from drill...

[@slavyslav]

Honestly as a rap fan it’s par for the course so unfortunately I’m desensitized to it

[@utubeuser88292]

@@nocreativenamengl was js thinking ab that fs, ross tripping for that cus if it was a “gangmember” bro wud call it anything but incredible lyricism

[@johntaylor-lo8qx]

By far this is the best deep dive channel on this platform bar none !! Keep up the gr8 work. Love the length of the documentaries, dont change anything. 👌🏾

[@anthonyharder1469]

This was really good. You did such a great job with your information on Eminem. You just garnished a new subscriber my boy. Keep up the great work

[@unicornL]

Oh that black eyeliner as lipliner and the frosted lip. Kim was a whole ass mood

[@bajorekjon]

Bipolar prostitute mood

[@sm8832]

growing up in Detroit, Eminem was the biggest thing in the city/state, driving through the Detroit streets always reminds me of him, the midwest grind and just how real everything is within his story. People got a lot of shit to say but, once you've been in the area he grew up in you understand what poverty is and just how amazing his rise is.

[@LelynnsSquirrels]

i live here.. it aint so bad these days.. my Mom's best friend lived on Dresdon, right down the street from Eminem, back in the 90s.. i worked at that very HotRock, & my Daughter recently graduated from the very SAME Lincoln High School that me & Eminem BOTH dropped outta.. (shame he had to b 4 yrs older than me)

[@jordanalberts874]

I used to live at 8 mile and lasher and it was a rough neighborhood. I never even left my house unless I was going to my car to leave. It absolutely is tough especially as a white person. I was always harassed at gas stations and anywhere I went pretty much. Luckily my neighbors were cool and looked out for me🙌

[@pdigi3179]

This comment is complete goofy BS smh

[@uchegbudivine6885]

​@@pdigi3179it's the truth Didn't em raise from poverty

[@bajorekjon]

You probably grew up in the burbs

[@EvybdyhatesJuJuj]

There’s nothing like NEW TRAP LORE ROSS.

[@marioschulz1135]

Yes there is... A nother Summoning Salt for example

[@UnoDinero95001]

Nah ong

[@catfelix69]

What about a chocolate chip cookie cone bruh

[@scuuzzii]

FACTS

[@ADHD_Lothario]

If there’s nothing better to you then I feel bad for you

[@overtime_ot]

Tremendous Work, Well Done !

[@lilyak1408]

Iv almost watched every video youv made all these several hour videos. This is a good one!

[@carolynmorin8042]

Eminem: beats the shit out of kim, publicly embarrasses her, fantasizes about her death This guy: well he was basically the biggest rapper of all time who tried to redeem himself but kept coming back to the same toxic situation

[@yagirl2124]

NAH FR 😭 THIS VIDEO IS FUCKED

[@robliberachi]

Hi Kim👋🏾

[@Raptorking18]

He’s still a legend despite the toxicity of everything

[@kamfisher1714]

Yet witnesses say she beat him up and spit on him, cope

[@carolynmorin8042]

@@kamfisher1714 Went both ways but Eminem is not nearly getting enough heat for the way he treated her, whereas she's torn apart for treating him badly

[@SparkleNeely]

He really seemed to never get over her, toxic or not. He’s never remarried nor do we ever hear about him being in a relationship.

[@ogkush6975]

Yoo what happened to king von video ??

[@kikibanks]

Dude your Huel add was the best add I’ve ever seen and the only add I’ve ever watched to the end 😂

[@SJ-ni6iy]

Poverty f$&@! people up, it is so damaging. Of course this couple was doomed. They both had childhood trauma, grew up dirt poor, never had stability and came from families struggling with addiction. I wish we were able to hear more from Kim’s perspective, instead of this being one sided.

[@esrblgn]

ok let's get real for a second, eminem's mental instability was probably the biggest reason why they could never get it right. if we summarize chronologically; (i accidentally wrote an essay lol) infinite is written mostly before hailie's birth so it seems until that time kim and him were relatively stable, and em was actually thinking they would get married, he'd be a family man and all that, which was apparently his ideal life. but when hailie’s birth and failiure of infinite caused severe financial problems leading to frustration their relationship broke down. em went into depression and kim didn't show him enough support and patience (partly with understandable reasons tbh, there was no guarantee that em would be able to provide by rapping + he was in a bad mental state) which made him resent her. since being a bad father is eminem's biggest insecurity her not letting him see hailie did the most damage. he probably felt terrible about himself thinking he couldn't keep the family together. then when he got famous he lost himself (possibly because he had multiplied his drug use) and wanted to get revenge for all this. he for sure thought now that he was rich he could do anything to her, tho he didn't realize that taking it out on music was incredibly public and the public cared about what he said. when kim attempted suic + he got arrested because of her, he likely felt like she was trying to get revenge by ruining his career so the relationship even further deteriorated. but after his case concluded i think em stopped being bitter, still didn't realize his faults but maybe kinda felt sympathy for her cause she was pregnant? anyway, after that he started saying divorce matured him and that he's a better person now. i believe that was the case around 2002, he also stopped irresponsible behavior like taking drugs (well except prescription pills). then something happened that made him resent her again, tho he'd learned his lesson and didn't reflect anything publicly. kim not accepting treatment for addiction and running away, not taking any responsibility and putting them all into em's shoulders angered him. he was at this point overwhelmed by fame and work anyway + hailie was really sad about all this and of course seeing her like that also upsets em. but when kim came back and was good again, he probably thought that the kids needed stability and also that he was ready for the family life he always wanted. and given the lyrics of when i'm gone he was much more self-aware of his faults so he tried it again. but his own addiction kicked in this time + somewhere (when he got mad at her again for something about nathan?) he realized his resentment for her was never gonna go away and they never would become the stable family he dreamed of. and as far as we know that was it for the relationship. in conclusion, eminem is a lot more dysfunctional than kim (tho she is toxic as hell too, i actually researched a bit and legit every witness confirms that) but post 2002 he seems to have worked harder for the family than her and pulled himself much better. personally, i blame debbie more than anyone who made toxicity a normal part of em and kim's life, fucked up his mind with abuse and caused insecurities in all his relationships, while demonizing and putting the blame on kim.

[@ashleysantiago4683]

Wow. This deserves more likes. Thanks for the break down

[@esrblgn]

@@ashleysantiago4683 thanks lol, i like psychoanalysis so i researched for a few hours when i was bored and now i’m knowledgeble enough about some rappers life to write a research paper on it 😭

[@truthaintthatthatruth7558]

Ok dr phil lmfaoo u cant even deal w ur own problems prob

[@missbraindamage]

​@truthaintthatthatruth7558 can you?

[@missbraindamage]

Sounds like Em was a lot of work...

[@jesussalinas8316]

Trap Ross got them flows your little videos of promoting stuff is brilliant love em u for sum flow my guy

[@nabilfreeman]

Ross, this was 11/10. Amazing job!

[@uswish.]

Every time Eminem bitched about being cheated on, all I can think is “you cheated first!!!!” people are so crazy

[@aniyadavis2743]

Some say he cheated first and others Kim cheated first idk

[@manis1551]

Despite their relationship being toxic, I think Kim and Em genuinely love each other. It just couldn't work as they both had troubled childhood and it took them both a long time to come to terms with the issues they had from their respective childhoods. It's clear that Em has matured as he acknowledged that he wasn't a good partner to Kim and he's now more positive about Kim in interviews/songs.

[@mhlelipmx]

Define "toxic"

[@Consuelomundoentero]

@@mhlelipmx how u gone comment that in a 3h extensive explanation oh how the relationship was toxic

[@-Mintyy]

Toxic doesn’t mean they don’t love each other.

[@milkisreallygood8957]

im not a therapist but their relationship seems more trauma bonding than love. They love hurting each other and cant seem to stop

[@BigJermz412]

This is what True Love is about.🥰 If there's NO attempted homicide/Manslaughter crimes of passion involved..... IT AIN'T REAL!!🙅🏽

[@caberknight9013]

Absolutely phenomenal video, loved it

[@AmberLie]

Best. Ad. Read. Ever!! Wasn't expecting that to be so freaking epic!! Bravo!!

[@maxwellhuey]

This man returns after 3 years like it’s nothing… like Eminem. We need you Ross

[@Advaitamanta]

3 months bro

[@TKe-wf2to]

@@Advaitamanta Three months on youtube = three years in the real world

[@BIG-7777]

The best bar of the whole documentary is Kim saying ‘I’m not marrying you for your money Marshall’😂.

[@kaiw522]

"You're just plain Ole Marshall to me"

[@-Mintyy]

@@kaiw522 ooo yea girl run that game

[@RallyCar08]

@@-Mintyy Hailey Jade, I love that name

[@tedhall9257]

I mean, she was with him for years when he was broke…..

[@Moodybeignet]

Amazing and in depth. Well done!!!

[@Lephz]

okay that ad read is the absolute best ive ever seen.

[@sidenote1854]

“I mean Yeah he wrote a brutal detailed rap about murdering the mother of his child and forcing the child to help him dispose of her mothers body but he’s so creative though he’s a master” 😐😑

[@kamfisher1714]

Eminem had to adopt Kim’s daughter from another man because Kim wasn’t a an adult and was an addict who was toxic and didn’t know what to do without Eminem supporting her and taking care of her, simple as that, cope.

[@kristoamadeus4441]

@@kamfisher1714you keep copy and pasting this as a reply to everything stop glazing Ems nutts

[@uchegbudivine6885]

Art is art😂 Hit Dem up is a masterpiece

[@Freqv]

It’s astonishing how much the general public and press dragged Kanye through the mud for his divorce with Kim and his mean comments about Pete Davidson yet Eminem’s treatment of his Kim has hardly affected how people feel about him. I’ve met up to 10 people who have harsh things to say about Kanye’s treatment of Kim during the divorce but not a single one of these people will ever knock Eminem for being a million times worse. Eminem literally built a career out of bullying her. Since Eminem was the famous person in the relationship I think people will always take his side and I think this truly shows the difference between marrying someone who has fame and a platform vs someone who doesn’t have either. It’s that or some subtle racism

[@blymperopoulou5410]

I think that people are different now than back then. Furthermore, even though Eminem rapped about horrible things people could always differentiate his artistic liberties because he used an alter ego aka slim shady. If I’m being fair I can see both sides at this situation. I think they were both toxic but the way he dragged her publicly was horrible and extremely shocking to her too. I mean after all they grew up together and she definitely trusted him. However, in their personal lives I believe he has redeemed himself. Both him and her were drug addicts and alcoholics but I guess since he got sober and even before he supported her quite a few times in her personal struggles both financially and with the kids that he adopted such as her niece and her daughter from another man. If he had indeed been so vicious to her as he appeared in his raps he wouldn’t adopt her daughter especially as she wasn’t his blood and she was a product of her cheating on him. My guess is that both of them struggle with mental health issues but are doing the best they can.

[@gemwood1386]

We're no longer in the 90s baby!

[@johngilbreth5519]

Em never ran on stage at an awards ceremony and bully a scared to death Swift. Can’t stand her either, but just saying bro. Peace out!

[@johngilbreth5519]

PS- Love the hell outta Kanye!

[@ChaosTheory9]

Omg now I wish there was an alternate reality where Kanye creates a song detailing the murder of Kim K😂 imagine how everyone would react?! It would be utter chaos

[@toast3591]

When it comes down to Kim going on air to talk about marshal I think it’s only fair. He dragged her through the dirt multiple times on different tracks so why does she have to sit silent and say nothing? None of them are reputable sources but it’s fair if they both get to publicly talk shit

[@susieschlotzhauer9924]

I feel so bad for Kim … you can’t want to murder someone and have a healthy relationship and to blast that on the world stage is embarrassing 😢

[@undertakerblaise256]

How you feel bad for someone who was mutually abusive. I’ve seen women key guys cars who for cheating, go crazy from domestic and mental abuse from the men who they were involved with. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but how can you feel right for someone who helped influenced the wrong? In that situation, I understand why he put it on records, it’s best way to not physically abuse her and financially help the family. Fucked up on the subject matter and the whole world involvement, I know. But baby trapping wtf? You deserve that shit

[@baekwonthechef5254]

The way I SCREAMED at the 8Mile “huel” commercial though… Ross you are hilarious 😂🤣😭

[@bobbydasmoka1234]

Shits so cringe 😭😭😂i bet hes like “.. yea this fire🔥” 😭😭

[@Ag-vv1wl]

why is no talking about that !?!?!?!?

[@henrylam92]

I hollered 😂 I love when content creators actually put effort into the ads and I’ll gladly watch it/sit it through

[@thatsydvicious]

That was the best ad I have ever seen 😂

[@aspirindamage5152]

“perhaps it was wrong he cheated on her, but maybe she was wrong for expecting him not to” your kanye and kim video was so hard to watch and im clockin out after that on this one. geez

[@tedhall9257]

Ross is a fan, it’s clear. Good video, but the bias is obvious

[@probablypositivity8918]

Same here. Giant nope.

[@Coochiedestroyer23]

Thank you! It only took me 2 months to finish this lol good video