Empires x Hermitcraft: Uncovering the True Villain

[@prismarinaYT]

what do you guys think of the new style of video? we had so much fun making this :)

[@Mchell0]

JUST STARTED THIS VIDEO AND I LOVE IT

[@Ender-vp5es]

Same

[@Cornelia_street1989]

Yes.

[@GlowberryGaming]

It's soo cool!

[@FroggyEdits62011]

I love it ❤️

[@marling013]

I think that there is another "villain", a suprising one. Pixlriffs. In his last video, he tell Sausage about his theory with sleeping and logging off connected to GeminiTay. He cleary pointed Sausage to be suspicious about her. Then they went to Dawn and talk to Gem. And there was a moment, that make me thinking. When they all started to talk about secrets, Pix sayed to Gem: "Sh... play along, Gem. Play along." Just like he saw her confusion and for a moment he broke roleplay to get her on trail, because he knew, what is going on out of character. There are another things, that are pointing towards Pix being a mastermind of Empires. He states, that this season he will be more of a Game Master than a player. And we can see that, when we is pointing others towards scene (like I describe above), or when he sugest, that Riff maybe can be activated by a whole band of musicians (setting another scene), or when he is buildings dungeons and creating a stories for others. And look on festival - he didn't put there his own thing, but he make sure, that everything else is working. And he is not roleplaying a lot, actually almost none. Conclusion: Pixlriffs isn't a character on the server. He indeed is a Game Master (he don't have to be villain tho). A Game Master that designed this world for his player, backstories for NPCs, and is preparing scenes and stories. Why I sayed player, and not players? Well, there is only one person other than Pix, who know, that she is only roleplaying. GeminiTay. She is a player, and Pix is preparing world for her, while others are just NPCs. Or maybe a people, that Pix kidnapped from another realities, so they can full his empty world? In this theory, Hermits can be a guests, a real humans, since they know Gem and they aren't much into roleplay. And hey, they seem to know Pixlriffs from KZbin, interesting, huh? Or Hermicraft is, as well as Empires, just a world made by some powerful being(s), who work together with Pix! I don't know!

[@Webby_june]

That's a really good theory I just have a head cannon that Jimmy is the same Jimmy from season 1 because of we never gone end really this season 1 Jimmy and I really want him to have it ending so I just made up one of my head that they are the same person

[@zayedirsyad5519]

Maybe he's one of the Watchers or something like that?

[@marling013]

@@zayedirsyad5519 Exactly! It would be freaking awesome.

[@amethystnight5055]

That's a really interesting theory! The idea of them being real people kidnapped from other dimentions would explain how some people, like Jimmy remembers Tango, Grian, and others. Maybe he was taken from a world where they were playing together, such as double life, so he remembers, but people like Scott or Sausage weren't.

[@sassychip26]

The wise one is the devise one.

[@danteswildlife4411]

Bdub’s no longer the last person to crossover into Empires as of today Ren has appeared as well; which makes it seem that the rift is only inactive on the Empires side still allowing others from the Hermitverse to crossover.

[@danteswildlife4411]

@@Garanseho that maybe true but Ren was able to crossover so the rift must’ve been still active on the Hermit side after it supposable became deactivated on the Empires side. And that’s why Ren awoke in the tomb of lost kings after crossing instead of coming out the other side because the rift was no longer active on that end.

[@danteswildlife4411]

@@Garanseho I don’t believe so?! I think that since the rift was to weak to stay active on the Empires side it had to find another way to transport Ren safely so it merged him with Empires version of himself. Unfortunately that other version was dead and lied to rest in that unmarked tomb; which is why Ren woke up there. This could be a huge piece of lore in the story, perhaps Ren (in the Empires Universe) is the evil king that Mythicalsausage has been running from all this time and that’s why the tomb Ren woke up in was unmarked, so we will be shocked for when the big reveal occurs.

[@thecrystalliaguild]

@@danteswildlife4411 That would be so cool!

[@Zenythen]

@@Garanseho look at xb’s videos, they might answer this

[@PepicWalrus]

@Garanseho Yeah but that also could be canonically after the remaining Hermits come over. It would be unfair to any hermits who decide they want to join in to not be allowed because of an arbitrary reason. As a DM of D&D when a player misses a few sessions, the best thing to do is just introduce them back in right away unless there's some compelling reasons.

[@Techhunter_Talon]

6:59 Then enters Ren, who was apparently entombed in the Ancient Capital's catacombs after he entered through the Rift.

[@iloveowls90]

Yeah and he just uploaded today so not her fault. She didn’t know until after this was posted and she probably and others said not again! 😆

[@WackoMcGoose]

@@iloveowls90 Ah, just like every time Matpat posts a "I FINALLY FIGURED OUT FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDYS ONCE AND FOR ALL" video, Cawthon's like "bet"...

[@dr.metalwarrior8637]

I am honestly surprised you didn't talk about Empire False because some weird stuff has been happening during her last video.

[@thecrystalliaguild]

If Gem really is a chaotic individual trying to incite a war of the gods or something like that, maybe it's because, as a celestial entity, she was once one of the gods or angels, but was banished and now wants to get revenge against the gods

[@Gamingwithrocko]

The detective style is so cool, also Bdubs being the one who broke the rift makes some sense because he was the last one who used it and we know he has some form of power since he is a 'god' now

[@sydneyhelmke1936]

This Intros Are Just Getting Crazier! Keep Up The Good Work Edit Watching: I feel like Sausages real god is Pearl because Sausage has been worshiping her since Afterlife, also Bdubs cant be a god lol he literary joined empires found Gem then said "Can I Be THe God Of This Religion?" And is going against his own religon hes the god of... Also Joel found a horse on an amour stand, so made a son called Hermes assuming Sausage put it up there... PEARL IS THE ONLY GOD!!!!

[@Kia3388]

My theory: sausage is just a really good gossip girl😅 seriously this was really fun to read though

[@shade-tv7oc]

Well it seems that from Joel's Temples of other Gods, Him and Pearl are in the same Religion. But what if Gem is a Primordial Being? What if Gem actually Gave "Birth" to them. Not literally, kind of like How the Titans were created by Gaia the Mother/Grandmother of all Greek Gods. Except Aphrodite since she was "Born" from sea form and Kronus Blood when he was chopped up by the other gods he ate.

[@darkfire143]

Who said bdubs can't be a god.

[@sydneyhelmke1936]

@@darkfire143 He could... He has a weird past tho

[@sydneyhelmke1936]

@@Kia3388 YASS ITS SO TRUE

[@merlinandmurdoch7837]

Princess Gem’s religion also clashes with part of Princess Katherine’s life, with all the sleeping, Her majesty of Glimmer Grove cannot carry out her monster hunting, and certainly not with the battle buddies. I’m sensing a teeny bit of conflict with them soon. I think Impulse in Gem’s latest episode hinted towards that.

[@combrade-t]

There's also the two falses, which like neither the hermit nor empires one seems to be fully good because hermit false made electrostatic tower to observe and says the other one is dangerous etc. but empires false has amnesia'd possibly many people, and theres also yk, the fact there are multi dimensional falses' And also Ren's episode waking up in the abandoned tomb of ancient kings alongside a grave of Sausage (although that was only today) and yea, most characters on empires are very interesting. I like the idea of a coming religious war though - the hermits being entirely economically self sufficient also would allow it because both sides could get what they lack from the hermits and not be economically reliant for some goods on their enemies, so yk. And the hermits have intentionally made themselves distinct from the rest so could easily be a neutral faction as a whole - although their chaos loving nature probably can't let that be the case lmao. Oh and also the other one I remembered from scrolling through comments a bit - Lizzy, don't know too much of the lore there but i think she's technically not human and is in fact wearing some sort of mask. Also Fwip's law lore cave with the jimmy toys is buried directly beneath one of her towns' houses next to the bed as demonstrated by grian, unsure if that means anything or just coincidence but considering how many places Fwip could've dug it out idk.

[@Febo.]

The different intro is amazing can’t wait to watch the rest

[@CloudTheAngeloud]

I think Pixl is the true villain the whole time because he has a dungeon master-like personality. I think he’s trying to hide his true nature

[@Webby_june]

Honestly yeah but I think you would make the most sense with him to be fair

[@LillithTheWise]

I love how you make your own lore in these videos

[@pipluplover1028]

THE PLOT TWIST AT THE END!!!😂😂😂

[@kitcat2188]

With False's newest videos I definitely think Empires False may be this season's big bad with how suspicious she's been and even how much Hermitcraft False fears her

[@MCEvans66]

This all might hold water except, Rendog published his first video of his entry into Empires. Ren came thru as the rift was collapsing. Also we have not heard anything from Doc, is he setting an Empires version of his Goat Empire and if so where?

[@SierraNight]

He’s taking care of his own child right now. I wouldn’t stress about Doc as much right now lol

[@witchykittyy]

Bdubs is just canonically an omniscient omnipresent being that nobody questions

[@ConstantSorrow]

Bdouble has twice been the man behind the throne. Once for Scar as Mayor and then for King Ren. He is clearly done operating in the shadows and has declared himself a god stepping into the light as it were.

[@tellingtails8074]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HOW THIS VIDEO IS EDITED! PLEASE DO MORE LIKE THIS!!

[@jofinlay91]

Prismarina. I have a theory, Gem is a monarch butterfly or at least part monarch butterfly. Her hair is the same colour as a monarch butterfly’s wings and they are called MONARCH butterfly’s and gem is a princess

[@WackoMcGoose]

Bdubs actually has quite the track record in his native dimension, setting himself up as the right-hand man to both Mayor Scar _and_ King Ren, along with proposing the two of them for the roles in the first place. And considering the in-story timing of it all, the Rift opening _almost immediately after_ the dethroning of King Ren... I wouldn't put it past Bubbles to have realized his number was about to be up in the Crastle, and setting events up in the background (maybe priming Grumbot with some specific queries about the Rift to trick Grian into opening it) so as soon as the Renpire fell, a portal to a new universe ripe for the takeovering would open, where the locals had no knowledge of the history of the shortest Hermit. Maybe this is also why False (Hermit FS) is trying to leave clues to Fractured (Empires FS) about the danger, without being able to go up and tell herself because of that pesky Blinovich Limitation Effect that would destroy both worlds if they touched. False knows the other Empires rulers wouldn't believe her about Bdubs, but they _might_ believe it if Fractured told them...

[@RedisFun2]

Some really good theories! I'd not considered False trying to leave cluses to Fractured False (love that name to differentiate them)... I'd been pegging Fractured False as the probable villian sense False feels the need to protect the Hermits and keep an eye on Fractured False. But when Bdubs and then Ren showed up.... Plot twist?! Lol

[@WackoMcGoose]

@@RedisFun2 (Credit to a theory post on /r/Hermitcraft for the name, actually) I'm not sure if that's actually False's intent, but the fact that she's not _hiding her existence_ from Fractured, that's gotta mean something at least...

[@RedisFun2]

@@WackoMcGoose but I thought ealier on when False landed on the Empires , she mentioned about having given Fractured a memory wipe cause she was pretty bad. Hmm, oh the Lore possibilities!

[@NattIsHere4]

Maybe in Gems religion they worship the sun because of its power, and not because they love it. It’s like worshiping out of fear, and following its orders because it’s a necarsary thing to do after you pledge yourself to the religion. The sunglasses are to protect the followers from being taken by the suns wrath, not to be mind controlled or hypnotised by the suns power.

[@Moonscale_]

I love the little story in video! It's an even more fun way to tell these theories, great job Prismarina!

[@lemonszz._]

in my theory Gem and Bdubs are both the villan,gem might just be the one serving Bdubs as he is the god i suppose,but gem might be doing something as she might actually be the one worpishing the moon as the fact she wears sunglasses is cause she can't stand the sun alot but she is doing it to convince all the players just to betray them at the end and that also might be the reason why she doesnt really like saint pearl (just a theory)

[@noneofyourbuisness1679]

While perhaps not the main villain of the SMP (at the moment), I think Grian would have a hand in bringing about conflict, if not just simple chaos. For one, he has a reputation for starting at least one war in every season of Hermitcraft he's been in, including the one that he debuted in. Even when he was actively trying to avoid starting a resistance against King Ren, he inevitably got dragged into helping both sides of the war that inevitably resulted in Ren's defeat. On top of that, he's commonly referred to as a gremlin or "THE Gremlin" of Hermitcraft for the sheer number of shenanigans and pranks that he pulls on his fellow server members. With that in mind, he seems to be the ringleader of Hermitopia on the Empires SMP, or is at least the most vocal when it comes to gathering all the Hermits under one flag. Unlike the Empires, which all specialize in at least a few goods to encourage trade between the various nations, the Hermits completely ignore this rule and have gone to extensive lengths to make as many farms as the server can handle. On top of this, Grian has made numerous references to crashing the economy of the Empires SMP - something that he has regularly tried to do in virtually all the Life series he's appeared in, as well as a few of the Hermitcraft series' he's played on. He's teamed up with GoodtimeswithScar numerous times to try and get a monopoly on cows, sand, dark oak, and even sugar cane during the various Life series and has been one of the founding members of at least two mega corporations during his time on Hermitcraft. He clearly desires power in some form and he seems to be trying to accomplish this in Empires by basically being able to produce anything any of the other Empires could want and (likely) offering it at competitive prices; this could potentially force the other empires to collapse under the economic stress, leaving the Hermits - and more importantly, Grian - in control of the server's resources. Now, I don't think Grian is aiming to be the main villain of the series, perhaps more like that reoccurring character that you know instantly spells trouble whenever they pop up somewhere. But he could certainly end up collaborating or even being manipulated with some of the other potential villains of the series with so many resources and wealth at his disposal. But hey, that's just a theory, a *MINECRAFT* theory!

[@RedisFun2]

I see Grian as more of a catalyst then a true villian, but his history does make for a pretty good argument about a potential villinous arc.

[@ilikecheezenow]

Just started watching and already love this new stile!!!!

[@arianaroseplays5519]

Détective prismarina is the new thing we want more episodes of ur detective life

[@Cloudscatss]

Anyone gonna talk about lizzy at the end😂😂

[@BakerBones]

theory: pix and gem are both watchers (confirmed to be part of minecraft multiverse)

[@SierraNight]

I like to think Gem is more of a Listener, as she is engaging. So is Pix. The Watchers don’t engage as much, and less often be upfront and honest when requested

[@TheNarrator497]

Prismarina: -Or at least a dark side they are hiding. Me: You mean False?

[@Commentation]

New theory to add to all of this : What if there ALL villians ploting against eachother?

[@pleb5676]

i dont wanna be that one person but..... their*

[@Paitriot21]

"some think I'm sane which makes them more worried" I literally lol'ed

[@KittenGaming099]

Prismarina that was so cool!!! I love the style of it sna the ominous music on the background was awesome! Keep up the amazing work!!

[@rubixcube9132]

I think that the real “problem” on the empires smp is not going to be a “someone” like in season 1-I think it’s going to be a “something”. What you may ask? A war between the hermits and empires-which is why there played count matches. But what would they fight about? *stonks*. They hermits are trying to sell e v e r y t h I n g. We have already seen, thanks to gem, that they are selling bee related items. And she complains about this, but it’s brushed off in the video. I think it’s safe to assume a small civil war will break out between all of them, with the empires trying to bankrupt the hermits, then fighting, then the hermits being tricked or banished back into hermit craft.

[@takoyakiyummm]

these theories just keep getting crazier and crazier!! Another Suspect: Princess Katherine So we know that Katherine is kind of cursed and so is her land, after watching prismarina's theories about Katherine, I think she will be the villain for this season, So she kills monsters at night and restores her kingdom at day, so at some point she is gonna get stressed because the villagers think shes cursed, so she will feel guilty, she will also somehow feel pressured because her parents want her to be perfect, and since she is cursed along with her land, I believe that she is a descendant of Xornoth because he was also cursed in season 1 of Empires Smp, So while she is worrying about the future of her kingdom and feeling pressured by her tasks, she loses control and eventually will become REAAALLLLL angry at some point so then comes Xornoth bribing her to join forces with him, she eventually accepts and becomes evil, she will then have the power tht whatever or whoever she touches will get cursed or turn to stone or wither away whatever is her liking. And she will eventually curse some of the Hermitcraft and Empires players, And I think the hero for this problem is suprisingly be, Lizzie and Jimmy, the seablings from season 1!. They expected Joel to be the hero but Katherine cursed him despite him being 'powerful'. Soo Jimmy and Lizzie will team up Lizzie, with the help of her fellow animal friends, And Jimmy, with his weapons and uhm "sherifness" They will eventually kind of-sort of- defeat Katherine but Xornoth made sure he wasn't gonna lose a second time so, he magically appears and makes Katherine strong, then there will be STRONG earthquakes and flames and volcanic erruptions, Reminding Katherine of the day she was born. So she gets weak and cries, while Jimmy and Lizzie dont know what to do, Xornoth forced katherine to continue defeating the Empires server, But Katherine did NOT wanna lose all her friends, so she cursed Xornoth, because of the earthquakes and volcanoes it opened up a portal to the multiverse, where season 1 Katherine was leaving the Overgrown and Katherine slightly has memories of her. Then Katherine eventually helps save the members of Empires and Hermitcraft, with the help of Witch Shelby, who has been hiding this whole time, helps the Princess undo all of her curses, they all defeat Xornoth, and helping Katherine recover when she fainted during the battle, So the next day she wakes up feeling alright, feeling normal and she goes to another festival created by Grian to celebreat the defeat of Xornoth, When Kaherine arrives she feels a feeling which she ignores a few episodes later earthquakes started happening again so alll the empires and hermit rulers ran away to a hidden forest, *leaving Katherine in Glimmer Grove...* and that you could say is the final of Empires... *or not..* When Katherine realizes her friends abandend her she becomes evil and vows to make Xornoth proud, she knows the location of the hidden forest and what happens next is not to be uncovered for that is the end of season 2. I hope you liked my theory!!

[@BugsyBugYT]

my personal theory is that its empires false. As my theory goes somehow hermitcraft false found empires false before who was evil and used a splash potion of amnesia hoping to make empires false stop being evil but it only half worked so half the time empires false is how she is shown in her empires videos and the other half of the time she is evil. Ive watched false symmetry's empires episodes and every hermitcraft episode after she came through the rift so it all adds up to me. Also I doubt mythical sausage could be evil.

[@Garanseho]

This is awesome! All three of them seem like they could be valid candidates. Great job!

[@karlitokarma2692]

And remember in double life bdubs would intensionally make stories that someone's targeting them so they would kill each other, like what happened to cleo and pearl... Though, he failed most of the time because he was caught lying....

[@dark_angels316]

Amazing video I think you need a part 2 for sure there is so many could be villains a part 2 is a necessity also nobody talking about the twist at the end so so so good

[@bumbledize472]

Okey but one idea. U know how gem can timeplay difrent caracters right. Yeah, but dose she remember the time she was a wizzard, dose she know all about these multiverses and can go back and from in time? And what about susege, dose she know why these flashbacks happens, or is it she who dose it? If she can go switch universes her self why can’t she make others switch? And what if she remembers the things that wizard gem did. Can wizard gem return? Is she lying too sousege and the others. And what if it is she who can control the opening and closing of the portal. You know since she already can pas between the worlds. And we haven’t heard anything about that she can’t switch worlds. What if she wants to trap Al her friends in one place, make Laos and get out of there.

[@tinyq555]

for Ren I believe that he went shortly after the rest but he got stuck in a sort of time dilation, some sort of slumber or disconnection of the self from the world leading for him to wake up way later in a tomb

[@ornessarhithfaeron3576]

Take a shot of vodka every time prismarina clicks in minecraft so their arm moves

[@duskashxx]

I have a headcanon that Bdubs is a dryad, and the trees tell him what's happening---like Cupquake's first video on the Witchcraft Smp. Fits with the moss skin too

[@g.l.a.m.o.r.o.u.s.e.l.i.8281]

That's the most beautiful video I've seen. Loved your suspicious you're definitely on to something. ❤🕵‍♀️

[@littletplayer8145]

I personally think gem isn’t the villain, but Bdubs might be, because right after gem built the church Bdubs joined the server and declared himself god even though he just got there. He might have tricked gem into thinking he was the Sun god and might use her to take control of the empires server.

[@Anticaat]

im in love with how creativity this video was presented and this detective style is so cool

[@PinzPink]

The end was fantastic I loved how Lizzie was there the whole time and you didn't even know!

[@joshhumphrey736]

the real villain is (could be) Grumbot prime, who seeks to throw empires into chaos. Firstly, we know Grumbot is lying about not knowing about empires. How? Because of gem! The fact is, empires should be one of the worlds Grumbot knows about because hermitcraft already has a link in the form of gem. Secondly, the begin button that opened the rift was most likely placed there by Grumbot. He is always watching the rift, and it is unlikely he wouldn't of told Grian if he knew someone else placed it there. Therefore he probably placed it or arranged for it to be placed. Further evidence he knew about empires Thirdly, Grumbot instructs Grian to deliver the compasses that lead to the rift. And who does Grian bring? Impulse and Pearl, who led the resistance; Scar, who is known for chaos in the life series; and of course, himself, who has started a war in every season of hermitcraft he's been in. Fourthly, the economy of hermitcraft is very different to empires, and if Grumbot knows about empires, he would know that 14 hermits would crash the empires economy by building mega farms for every resource, like they do. Fifthly, this is just a fun idea so don't take it too seriously!

[@lucy_reads]

OMG you're such a godly roleplayer!

[@Wolves_ARESNEAKY]

One of the next suspects should be Falsesymmetry or falsesymmetry_ (if you do more ofc)

[@100madmic]

Interesting theories but I am also thinking about falsesymtery characters on empire and hermitcraft false.

[@dr.metalwarrior8637]

Yeah same considering what happen during last week video from Empire False it was interesting!!!

[@TiggerTom]

There's a 15th Rendog

[@copiousmist8614]

actually rendog is the last hermit who went through the rift

[@ParacordBear]

Oh it's soooooo much better I swear it makes it 10x more intriguing

[@jadespiral4673]

The potential god war could also give way to other gods and things like it, (exor aeor & the wolf spirit)

[@darianleyer5777]

0:22 Let's see what you have come up with, then if you can explain how the Redacted SMP fits in to all of this.

[@darianleyer5777]

Nice video and good points. However, I must wonder if this "evil" mentioned is THE SAME THING as the stuff mentioned in Rendog's first Hermitcraft Season Nine episode.

[@yourhostaether]

As much as I don't think it's bdubs I still think the theory is very cool, I had a theory about bdubs before the whole king thing ended in which I thought he was gonna manipulate ren to get what he wants, which obviously did not happen, but my reasoning for so was that in one of bdubs ruins, the castle ruins to be specfic, the book of lore that came with it stated him as "greedy king bdubs", and the banner he made to symbolize Ren was a phoenix, which commonly means "rise from the ashes" , He also dropped a anvil on rens head in which anvils are used to "mold and bend things to your liking" but that might be a bit of a stretch, I just thought it was a super cool concept so as much as I don't think bdubs is a villain, I want him to have a cool manipulative arc at some point in time cause he really did seem to set himself up for one

[@maveschannel3100]

prismarina i had a cool ideo (in my oppinion) i think that scar is going to take over tubletown and become the sherif and then jimmy will get so mad and become and sabotage everyone to start a war

[@churchofmagic3733]

i wouldve never discovered u were it not for the crossover with hermitcraft :D Suddenly it looks so interestingg

[@IceIsRandom]

That ending was chefs kiss

[@Warriors_of_DustClan]

i think that gem is breaking her ally with kathrein because kathrein needs to not sleep. and is shuble the bad guy because she is at war with joey

[@Whatsthegame_The-Show]

You should do a longer video talking about all the members of the Hermitcraft x Empires SMP Crossover because I am already confused and I'm sure that some other people are to. Like, I don't even know about fWhip's backstory, or False's, or Pix's!

[@cattri1193]

I think bdubs is a god. The stuff you said at the beginning of bdubs’ theory connects it. Having the power to close a rift, and knowing what was on the other side of it. He could possibly just not be the god of the sun, maybe chaos? That could explain the potential war of gods, you mentioned.

[@nearlyfletcher]

if cat lizzie is in this video, does this mean.. what if Prismarina is in the Empires world and will soon be brought into the chaos of the Empires SMP??

[@jam4320]

Your A-bit Insane And I Love It

[@blairphillips8430]

😊 nice work!

[@AlexHM93]

I actually think that we have multiple villains. In the shape of hermits. The reason I say this with the game tag now in play I think this is going to spark chaos between the empires and test there friendship

[@theaussieninja8176]

I think it would be great if you were on the Empires server gathering in game evidence doing a series like this

[@TheOrangeBlocky]

Yet another Thrilling creation such detail when explaining and honistly the ideas and points in every one are incresible !!! @prismarina (Felt like a school teacher writing that!!)

[@aldybarrack6522]

maybe the true villain is all the friend we made along the way

[@apersonwiththisnamethatexi917]

grumbot could have wanted bdubs to go through and then when he went through it shut down

[@tatsudragneel4761]

Pearl is a sunflower goddess and a goddess of the harvest so it makes more sense she would be associated with both the sun and moon. Or it could make more sense she's a fertility earth goddess which fits really well with the sunflower and harvest aspects. Idk how true it is but I believe I once heard she based her S1 character on Demeter which fits with this interpretation.

[@crimson-moonproductions974]

Honestly, I think SolidarityGaming is going to be the main villain due to how he is becoming quite corrupt. :)

[@shanellewaite7459]

I think it would be cool if the sheriff jimmy is actually become the villain. Like on one take him seriously and also everyone call him a toy. Also he already being bit evil, he sent assassin after Fwip. But for some reason killing people is not in the lore book so I guess he aren’t breaking the law.

[@Prim_Productions]

rendog just went into the rift

[@anundesireduser]

THE ENDING-

[@crocdoctor7581]

Love the style of this episode but one question was this just a fun detective theme or a small nod and dedication to the recent passing of Kevin Conroy R.I.P 😭😓 also I like the Bdubs theory because usually Bdubs uses his powers of manipulation to convince others to be essentially his puppets to rule over servers and if people didn't like them then or rebelled against them then they took the fall and not Bdubs but perhaps he's trying a new tactic through manipulating others into thinking he is a deity amassing a large amount of followers and then having them and his enemies fight and destroy each other leaving only him to rule? love the videos you are Amazing😊👍

[@Viperine_pen08]

My theory is the a war is going to happen similar the the 3rd life war it will be between bdubs and joel or perhaps bdubs v.s pearl or sausage.

[@onetrackmind3558]

I like this detective take you took

[@slurpygible5312]

Mini Theroy: Pearl will go insane and turn to 5am pearl as she seems to some what remember so of the empires rulers spassificly the ones in double life so she will so start to remember the pain they brought to her but all we need now is something to finally shatter her mind so how about gem as when pearl finds out that gem has lied to her for a while now she will breakdown into insanity oh and also gem has a religion that is ment to avoid the moon to avoid her so pearl may break in the scarlet pearl

[@jetsetter24]

I think it will be gem, if you make a part two can you add this theory? When hermit Gem heard her voice through the rift, this could have linked them! Sharing Mind, and memories. What if grumbot is trying to add a counter part for him, through gem? This would explain the changes in Gem’s personality.

[@jamesclifford2659]

I think that smallishbeans and saint pearl are connected because they are both gods and smallishbeans wipped saint pearl memory as he did not want a more powerful God than him and so that if he was going to take over empires there would be no one to stop him.

[@chomchomiii98]

2:52 I am kinda sad you did not mention that they had a one night armour stand according to Joel. 🤣

[@AmethystPixel]

Everyone is being manipulated by grumbot. Mumbo for Mayor

[@pratisthamukherjee4641]

I think it could either be bdubs or gem. They both seem quite suspicious with why gem does this shapeshifting and travel different universes. Or why bdubs, the 14th hermit entered Empires while there where only 13 emperors. And and lizzie twist ar the last, i wonder what that means👀

[@jacobippolito3224]

I just realized…maybe Skeltron’s origin story is Scott’s origin. The skull with his eye

[@StickScape]

pris really has something against the sun

[@AnimatingOwl]

I am inlove with your content, you get really into character and I dont even get bored when watching! I Can follow up on lore that I cant see cuz I dont wanna watch everyone

[@Myrice_14]

MY FIRST THEORY LESS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I was just watching the video when something crossed my mind- What if- Like how Lizzie lost her memories when she was away from water, Pearl lost her memories beacuse she was away from sunflowers. And how Lizzie got her memories back after being near the water, Pearl will regain her memories as being near sunflowers . Maybe sunflowers sourunded her base beacuse some force is trying to help her get her memories back. As there were two forces. Like let's just say that there's an Empires force, what just thinks that Pearl lost her memories beacuse she wasn't near any sunflowers for a long time. And the other force is what created the rift, beacuse the force wanted the Hermits to go to the Empires server. That could also be the reason why the rift closed, after the Hermits haded over. The force didn't want them to get back. I think that one force is the calm one, trying to keep peace between the multiverses and stuff. The other force is chatoic, wants to see chaos beacuse it enjoys it. The forces aren't like gods like Pearl or Joel, no. Something much stronger. Strong enough to make a crossover between realityes. Also as I was talking about Pearl in the beginning, I think it would be cool , as she regains her memories, she hopps between realityes from time to time, just like Sausage does. And I think it would be even cooler, if she regained memories like when she told sausage that the temple looked good from Empires S2. Also her looks- it's probably beacuse the chatoic force changed her to fit in with the empires Saint Pearl, to confuse the other force to cause even more chaos. Like when we could see Garry and Snort (or sniff i can't remember) in Grians episode, but Garry wasn't standing anymore, and Snort looked different. I think it's beacuse the chatoic force wanted them to fit in. But this time it wasn't to cause more chaos, this time it was to not cause any questions in the Hermits's head, beacuse it was scared that they will focus on that mistery instead of the mistery of the rift, and that it would need to wait much longer until the hermits cross over. Aaaaaaaaaand, that's it! I'm Hungarian, so please ignore if I've made any mistakes in the writing. BTW Prismarina if u are watching this, YOU ARE THE BEST!!!! -RoseTheFLuff, AKA Míra

[@LegendofSteve1456]

I don’t feel like it is any of these people they just don’t seem like villains to me I think they are just having fun

[@EmmysSummoningCircle88]

Prismarina is practically matpat but Minecraft version.

[@chomchomiii98]

I may add. As of Scar's episode posted recently, when he and jimmy go to kill Fwhip. Uh... Fwhip is kinda sus too. Especially when he goes on the deep dark waiting for scar and jimmy to kill him he mentioned "Welcome to my world" in a very ominous way. I am really torn between the 3 .

[@darknessblades]

My theory is that its Grian's alter ego GRAIN. He is the true villain, taxing all of Grain kind, his grain fields reign supreme. [Which also makes the Grian=GRAIN meme true]

[@itswarrior3602]

YOU HAVE ME SO INVESTED !!! your videos are amazing keep it up please!!

[@probsnotcomingback]

Yossss! New prismarina video 👏

[@Nicole775]

I have a theory about the portal, so when the portal dose reopen the hermits wont go back to thar old sever they will go to the next session of hermitcraft but that is just a theory.

[@silverwolf3949]

What if, hear me out, bdubs is a secret spy for the magic counsel, tasked to find out why there was no response from great witch shelby and since he wants to cause chaos, convinces great witch shelby to take in the evil darkness spreading in Katherines kingdom to get cleared from everything from the witch academy and GW shelby then becomes the evil antagonist of empires/hermitcraft?

[@abigaildunn1791]

How are you even in the updated Minecraft server in that old PC in my basement?

[@Banana_queeeen]

Is it just me or this just got a little epic!

[@gardenshed6043]

Thanks for covering my BDubs theory.