Detonate Dead is wiping our group in Path of Exile 2 & trying out "crafting" - PoE2 #13

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[@sarvashaktimaan7106]

Because of the gloves, all kills are attributed to Empy. In other words, whenever someone dies to an on-death effect, it is mechanically always Empy's fault. :D

[@Thandulfan]

I remember playing an old game, about 8 years ago. It had a mechanic that mobs could explode on death and kill you, devs learned from their mistake and changed that mechanic so it was possible to outplay it properly. I wish PoE2 devs take this lessons too. Btw that game was called Path of Exile and volatile was reworked in 2017...

[@aidieltaufik9954]

Yes People dont understand Poe 1 they fix operating the game in 13 years some they league have they have downside and upside they see it in Poe one bruuhhh this poe 2 game out 6 days now even this 6 days they have changed many things they listen to you..

[@lowkey_Ioki]

@@aidieltaufik9954 ????

[@DirtyWizard334]

Don’t play it.

[@ArnoldsKtm]

​@@DirtyWizard334get lost

[@cowprophet]

@@DirtyWizard334 go crawl under a bridge, troll

[@Empyriangaming]

Roughest day so far. We reported all the issues ofc. My atlas is starting to get nice. Understanding how to juice better. Today we'll be blasting juice breach maps with higher tier. Thanks for watching!

[@oxykostis3153]

hey thanks for the videos. Where can I get your loot filter?

[@justemy2516]

tbf trial of chaos is an ancient temple. chaos probably wasnt able to cover the energy bill for the elevator over centuries.

[@Martin-rb4np]

How do you report? I'm still bothered as fuck that essence drain only has one damage support link.

[@HFLlightning]

Can I ask what is happening in the video? im new to path to exile. Are you using a bug to get a lot of ingame money by farming monsters? I dont quite understand. Thank you for any explanation!

[@thomaspavon2504]

@@danielmitchell671lol , you don’t know the game buddy , it’s an Ascendancy class , double shock but 50% less duration . Not a bug

[@SpecShadow]

The "two doors" build reminds me Dark Souls 2 where you could make such build

[@radicalindividual7774]

What? Don't you mean THE WALL

[@inverlock]

@@radicalindividual7774 LOOK UP THERE ON TOP OF THE HOTEL

[@Thandulfan]

not the first and not the last thing in poe2 that make you think "it's like dark souls", sadly a lot of those things lack execution to be at from software level

[@radicalindividual7774]

@@Thandulfan Not even close to Dark Souls. It's like a knockoff of No Rest For The Wicked, mixed with the D4 Beta Failure.

[@jackwabbit9784]

The on death effects are so annoying lol. Great game so far hopefully they get the issues worked out soon

[@Nukestarmaster]

Why does the game where GGG specifically said that they are removing build bricking mods and un-telegraphed one shots have more build bricking mods and un-telegraphed one shots than PoE 1 ever had (even during Sentinel launch week).

[@Baraxal1]

​@@Nukestarmaster because they clearly dont know what they are doing, they setup the best game skeleton ive ever seen for an early release, but slapped on the worst flesh and skin layer ever. Maps too big, too many one shot on deaths effects, white mobs are more challening than bosses which completely reverses the game feel, mechanics are all step backs like for god sakes i have to pick up expedition currency, i have no map tab, breach is 300 splinters even though its a 1 chance or lose boss. Deli is the only improvement but thats only cause it lasts longer cause the maps it loads into are 2x bigger than a t17, which everyone in poe1 said they hated t17 size but we dealt with it cause they had loot. So ggg in all their wisdom gave hs t17 size x2 for every zone starting in act 2 and then kept it through maps, and removed all loot. I really hope they burn the flesh off and build off this skeleton better.

[@mariosnork8785]

@@Nukestarmaster we cant be playing the same game... nothing has killed me without me know what did it, even on death effects you can tell how you died. In contrast in PoE1 only like 10% of deaths I know what killed me. Also haven't found a mod on a map yet that bricks my build, sure, might be too hard for my build currently but nothing that directly stops it from working like reflect or no leech or no regen.

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@Baraxal1 I'm only on act 3 so none of those things are anywhere near affecting me, lol. But it's good to know I have _fun_ to look forward to. But wow, who thought that putting a massive mana siphon aura on a random rare that moves at 2050% player speed (I actually had one of these rares spawn two areas in a row) or 50% less defenses as a mod in the Trial of Chaos were okay?

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@mariosnork8785 I wasn't talking about _map_ mods, I am in act 3. I'm talking about rare monster and trial mods. And just because you know what killed you, that doesn't mean that it was fair. I know that the monster with the massive blue aura killed me because it rendered me completely incapable of fighting back. Also, yeah, I have had a lot of deaths where I didn't know what killed me. Maybe it's my fault for playing sorceress, but when your effects are the _exact same colours_ as the bosses, it's kind of hard to tell sometimes.

[@queueray3658]

You said that the loot drops are the first thing in POE 2 that's faster than POE 1. I respectfully disagree, the nerfs are definitely faster

[@Empyriangaming]

Lmao

[@Zenon71]

"I love gambling" 14:34

[@megafotal]

Franky 4 Fingers

[@Patraquashe]

I mean I appreciate the improved visuals as much as anyone but Jesus Christ it is hard to spot any ground effects. Me and my friend who plays in party just run away when we've killed a rare. So many random dumb things you don't spot when the screen is covered in spell effects. RIP on the Ultimatum and Simulacrum guys... the cynical part of me wonders... is the Trialmaster even added to the game, hence the elevator not working?

[@fast1nakus]

For sure. I play firewall srs and just constantly hope nothing explodes under me. Which it does. All the time.

[@_unknown_guy]

PoE2 will fix visibility issues... Oh, this is PoE2 and everything one-shots you

[@_unknown_guy]

​@@fast1nakus I play spar, firewall also makes it easy to miss some boss move and get stomped

[@fast1nakus]

@_unknown_guy oh dude. Now imagine 30/s fire proj with aoe flying into that boss from 7 dudes. Plus 10 fiery skulls. I have literally no idea what small to average bosses even look like while fighting them. The big ones are fine, tho.

[@maxnibler6090]

I roll away from every single rare I kill and wait 3 seconds because 90% of my deaths in maps have been from on death effects. I'm glad I'm not the only one respecting the fuck out of those overtuned dd shits

[@skop6321]

Thanks for paving the way we all thank you for your bug finding for the rest of us

[@xZipkan]

I do wish PoE 2 had better crafting as it all feels like gambling, which isnt crafting imo

[@radicalindividual7774]

Because it is. Using the Starter Weapon because 30 weapons roll absolute shit? Enter Act Two, get a Ele Quarterstaff that rolls 100% Flat Bonus Elemental on it, with two Sockets to add another 100% Damage on it? Instantly getting 300% more damage on ONE ITEM on ONE AFFIX, and walk through Act Two unaffected by enemies? The game just isn't right. It's fundamentally flawed.

[@Hooga89]

@@radicalindividual7774 The effect of moving predictable power from skill gems.

[@colto2312]

@@radicalindividual7774 you just can't respect THE VISION

[@tykobray4132]

"lets make the crafting system simpler".. proceed to remove all forms of deterministic options. Alc and go rares

[@Hooga89]

The game already looks like PoE1 in every other respect so what more can you want really? Literally just go play the first game.

[@funicio]

There are still essences, omens, and chaos orbs to gamba on items that have some good mods some bad mods. It still has a long way to go, but it's a good base to expand on with more reasonable mechanics as opposed to PoE1's huge mess of disconnected and often redundant crafting mechanics.

[@xythiera7255]

They want to make poe2 more beginner friendly if you dont like it you can allways play Poe1

[@grippersrealm]

tier 5 bases, essences and omens... the good crafting is later

[@Inquisite1031]

@@Hooga89 because the game doesnt gain anything from the removal of crafting, if anything it makes early mapping so frustrating because now capping res is very very hard, stop attacking people who criticize the game on valid grounds we all want the game to be good

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

My biggest problem ls cirrently are the on death animations, in particular there one that drops my frame rate from fixed 60 to like 15 each time it occurs It’s the one that leaves all the little bloody tentacles on the ground and I do not Understand y this one animation is bricking my pc ggg please

[@enescagrma2292]

same I go from 100 to 40, its just an animation for rares dying. Completely unnecessary

[@dddaaa6965]

My fps doesn’t drop but my you fans literally go to 100% when this happens and it’s so annoying, I don’t even go above 70c and it’s making me want to pull my hair out, every time I kill a rare I start running so I don’t have to see that effect lmao

[@megadeth116]

GGG added a new rarity of enemies. Shield enemies. They replace rare enemies.

[@slendeaway7730]

Honestly those guys that have the shield that reflects projectiles are worse than most rares I see in maps. They even have their own waystone mod lmfao.

[@yuukizaki3163]

I still don’t understand why GGG loves on-death effects so much. They said they added dodge roll to make every fight more engaging, melees are just “Rolling” because you cant dodge every explosions.

[@AlucardNoir]

You guys do know stun immunity will be in the game before long right?

[@froman1522]

You've been able to use that mtx like that since it came out lol. All pieces of the scourge set summon different demons. They do nothing, but one is for coomers.

[@AlexHanabi]

i love how the video ends on: "i love gambling" XD

[@knasbollolo]

Only thing I ever die to is ground and on-death effects. Looking at my feet the entire map is just terrible gameplay.

[@BlaineLawrence-yl2fl]

I love when I'm trying to manually fire a comet that's on a 10 second cooldown, but my controller auto locks onto a random mob 180 degrees in the wrong direction.

[@Wyrade]

Trialmaster lift didn't work for Ghazzy either a day or two ago.

[@wischi8301]

this "Shield" yells fell like the movie 300 when all get rdy to block infinit arrows xD

[@GodDangOl]

Looking forward to the next POE1 league.

[@Weidl01]

i rly have to discipline myself to not watch those videos further to not spoil the whole content for me. Thats tough since it will take me forever to get there xD

[@Taogimun]

Hey Empy, First of all thank you very much for your content and dedication to PoE, I've been watching you (and playing PoE) for 3 years now (I know, rookie numbers), and you're by far my favorite PoE content creator, I really enjoy seeing you and your group pushing the limits of a particular build or mechanic, I've always enjoyed super-high-almost-downright-ridiculous juicing videos or gambling ones of course hehe. As for PoE 2, at least it warms my heart seeing you guys also struggling against the game design, because if full parties of vets like you guys are are having so much trouble getting by on endgame mechanics, I suspect 99% of the players won't make it too. I'm not even talking about new player experience, just imagine lmao. I don't see any of the new players able to stick around until they tweak core systems, which is a shame because there is so much cool art, ideas and sound design in this game. I made an Ice Nova + Comet build before the CoX nerfs and it was so majestic. The biggest issue imo is that we don't really see a difference between level 30 playstyle and level 80 playstyle, we're just a bit stronger, faster, tankier, but the power fantasy isn't here except for visuals. Even seeing the crazy builds you guys can theorycraft and the synergies you can find, it seems slow and not very interactive, regardless of how much power/damage you can dish out. Not even mentionning seeing you guys fear rare mobs while almost defense capped, that's the second biggest issue, so much mechanics are a straight copy paste from PoE 1 when we as players are nowhere near the powercreep needed to face those kind of modifiers. How are you supposed to get by Mana Siphon + Molten Shell + Temporal Proximity as a mage ? It really feels like the team just decided to discard all PoE 1 feedback to make all the same mistakes again. Anyway, I truly hope for the best because beyond the balance issues there is a formidable game here, and wish everyone that reads this comment good luck. As Izaro would probably say, "The Vision Shall Prevail". Cheers !

[@lightboom6140]

You could have made another reddit post like this, but I see you've decided to dodge the competition and post it here instead

[@Taogimun]

@@lightboom6140 Why are you talking about reddit lmao, just watch the video. I'm not against difficulty, it's just not normal for 6 fully geared characters handed by very experienced players to be literally one-shot by a random rare mob or on-deaths effects while being res capped everywhere. It could happen in PoE 1 because of zoomy builds that didn't have defenses or high-end juicing that involved compromising ridiculous modifiers for ridiculous loot. I like PoE 2 being different and more tactical than PoE 1, I enjoy the slower pace myself, but seeing very good players struggling to claim their ascendancies or being beaten by one rare mob will always be a problem, in any ARPG. People are very vocal because PoE 1 players know how stubborn can GGG be if they don't want to change mechanics to address core problems. I'm not saying it will happen, and of course I hope for the best and for them to shape PoE 2 into a masterpiece, but you can't deny that it has already happened multiple times with PoE 1. We are only in the first week anyway, they will have plenty of time to fix the game, but in order for problems to be revealed it is normal for the community to be vocal about their issues. If you do not have issues with the game, why argue with strangers about their side ? Just be happy and play the game.

[@lightboom6140]

@Taogimun because there's so many of these posts on Reddit. I don't really disagree either, just remarking that I'm seeing them in yt comments as well now

[@soulstealer5625]

Why do on death emchaics exist in this slowed down game? The justification for it in poe 1 was the zoom zoom and only way for mobs to do damage.

[@Inquisite1031]

because ur supposed to git gud and dodge roll, or at least that's what the poe 2 stans tell me 🤣🤣

[@dddaaa6965]

@@Inquisite1031 dodge roll into a chaos, bleed, stun or chill puddle where on death effect orbs, tornados or bleed waves are following you, LUL, melee is 100 times worse than it was in poe1

[@R41-e9y]

"I LOVE GAMBLING" - A wise man

[@paperstars9078]

elevator not working has some meme potential

[@alptuğBolat-o3m]

i have just solve this problem with call of the brotherhood ring when things freeze their cospres destroyed ( sorry for my english )

[@ThePaulineIndex]

Complaining about on-death effects, Truly it is the sequel to PoE.

[@Siegram999]

did floor 2 sanctum just now didnt get my ascendency points cause apparently its somehow still bugged. thanks ggg

[@grippersrealm]

need 3 floors after first ascendancy

[@ArnoldsKtm]

don't blame GGG for your false assumptions. they've even added labels to invitations that would ascend you.

[@nik_ms]

DD and the chaos explode on death mod are so fucking annoying lmao

[@akmotomoto]

I was like, I don't think this is intended gameplay, and the I seen 1:20 OMG

[@dadanddragons3522]

Boss ailments about to get cool downs 100%

[@Lev1athaN_ONE]

Если бы у меня был хороший компьютер и такая связка разбирающихся людей, я бы был счастлив так проводить время в любимой игре в которой я с 2013 года...sad((

[@mastermind5427]

Whats your filter man I have been searching

[@Tuygz6470]

He doesn't share his filters. He doesn't want to mess people up if they make a mistake on it and have people blame him cause they were missing good drops or something.

[@joevaldez4889]

just get neversink lmao

[@ceezymuccheez]

I think he has someone in his group that makes them

[@BigChols2]

Not even to maps yet and yall are already limit testing the game. Good feedback for the devs

[@MrJarmenK]

imagine that chest had chaos res over evasion

[@gogotmg]

It could not

[@ExiledVessel]

electrocute seems stronger than freeze on bosses lol.

[@gamefan6706]

Regretting my decision to skip EA less and less :D Still looks really good tho, can't wait for full release

[@dinucristian9727]

how the hell does he see the tiers of suffix and prefix , i cant see them in the video

[@Thandulfan]

press ALT when hovering the item

[@mrxnostalgic6291]

Are you guys here for gaming content? I'm here for the dnb banger outro's!

[@maxxvii2037]

On death effects and stuff on ground has no place in this game. They took away mobility and speed but left those things in. It's the equivalent of having to jump a big gap but not being allowed to run. That's not difficulty, that's bad design. I don't think PoE2 is a bad game, but i can see why they're delaying PoE1's new league. If 3.36 came out this week i could see a lot of people just quitting PoE2

[@tronic774]

I did my 4 trial sanctum after they annouced it was fixed, yeah i got fucked its not fixed

[@barloc2]

I'm sad you didn't get your 1 passive Voices from Simulacrum :(

[@BigChols2]

Xesht, We that are Stunned

[@mimo.46.]

the timing at 9:58 KEKW

[@mahinmiah9513]

Didnt GGG say, we want our game to not require a lootfilter, yea good luck with that...

[@jfsebastian8499]

oh.. the loot now looks more like poe 1. next mission 1fps slideshow or gamecrash by disabling lootfilter

[@dshearwf]

This looks like a runescape HD mod

[@ThanePL]

Cool vid!

[@Voidroamer]

corspe explosion need sto be removed. its so FUN when you go to loot a rare you just killed, and then surprise die.. AT LEAST MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS! impossible to see with all the visual clutter

[@FuriCut]

250 million hp boss, RIP solo players

[@1stMBT]

howa is now a glove?? lol

[@evgenijl.9906]

Holy molly that ammy (which i would pay like 10c in poe 1)

[@ArtemisClydefrog]

SHIELDS UP BOYS!

[@Zonnorape]

" I love gambling" B-)

[@gmlviper]

Pay to loot is fun, isn't it?

[@nporving99]

*rare sighted* ACTIVATE SHIELD MODE ACTIVATE SHIELD MODE!!!

[@TheDracu]

10:05 the fuck happend?!?!?

[@gogotmg]

A rare had dd

[@Arenyr]

It's hard to say this, because I have such high hopes and aspirations for this game moving forward.. but it has to be said. One shots remaining in this game is a FAILURE by the development team. I know they said they'd balance these things as we moved forward, but I've only seen player nerfs and no changes to visual clarity, random one shots, or ascendancy trials.

[@lucashingue]

Chill its been less than a week thay can’t fix everything in 2 day cmon its an early access its the whole point of it to find things that dont work àd fix them 1 by 1 …

[@tharic4981]

I can't believe they released the game like this! They should've done a early access to test for shit like this...

[@fast1nakus]

I've been saying this for a while. In every pre-release footage of poe2, there were obvious problems with monster damage spikes.

[@etherealfraud]

@@tharic4981 only 7 years in development!

[@SuperCatacata]

​​​​@@lucashingueThey've been working on the game for like 8 years now. And these were at the top of the list of problems in POE 1. No excuses, minor tweaks aren't going to fix them at this point. Visual clarity, oneshots, on-death effects. All of them are still terrible in POE 2. I wonder what you, "But it's early access" people are going to pivot to when the game has these same problems 2 years from now.

[@sims341]

Do you share your loot filter somewhere?

[@anthonyg6083]

that chest was nuuts

[@Saki630]

Thanks POE-god empy. I've felt unwilling to play POE2 today for the first time due to reasons you just showcased. I am not even to maps yet, but have no currency to craft replacement items that I've had since Act2-3. The only way I get better items is if the vendor has them or I use a wisdom scroll. If I choose to craft, I still dont have more than 1 Regal at any one time because I'm 'crafting'.... I also dont like that we are Testing the game and they dont respec our character when they nerf/remove an interaction so I'm bricked because I dont have the gold and currency to swap builds around..

[@puru721]

Play it yourself why the hell "must" copy others? easier for me to understand the game without fucking guide come on man lmao

[@colto2312]

shoulda paid them more

[@dez8712]

well that's a shild issue :)

[@darkee03]

Summon MrBeast KEKW

[@blech71]

Damn that tho 😊

[@Col-iy5sl]

I fear PoE2 becomes just a reskin to PoE1 in terms of endgame gameplay. One week after release, and some folks already starts to spam fest, clean maps like it is in PoE1.

[@Smudge7Four]

Massive nerfs incoming due to fun

[@Scienceoflife10]

OMG, the same item garbage as in PoE1! Are you kidding me? How can it be that the entire screen is littered with items?

[@wot4109]

So still no mirror as group players, what a shit loot

[@Empyriangaming]

We’re just upgrading our gear for fun

[@scurrx]

they got a singular raw mirror drop in all of poe1 group play why should they get one in poe2 after a week? (I'm not counting the double mirror card drop)

[@hypnogri5457]

@@scurrxI think they are joking

[@sebastianp4023]

Jesus Christ...

[@samuelvera5048]

fps lol...

[@BukHumJai]

2600 hrs on poe... This game is incredibly mid in it's current state.

[@KingBrewHA]

7million seasons in and these guys still marveling at their coc jokes 🤦‍♂️

[@nameundefined4317]

ruining builds one step at a time stay away from summoner builds dont get my shit nerfed go for all the lightning and sorc shit

[@doomass4207]

this is why they are nerfing builds- you are showing them what to nerf, they are basing nerfs off of stuff like this.... they simply don't want us to have screens exploding and bosses perma stunned, granted this is what we the players like...... they however see this and instantly have discussions on if they should nerf it or not i guarantee IT!!!

[@timurdzh]

Group play. Pathetic

[@Empyriangaming]

Thanks!

[@illican]

don't be jealous that their polycule has better magicfind than yours

[@harborwolf22]

Nice that they will be balancing builds and the game off of people like this. Because it's exactly the same as be still being in act 4 cruel.

[@Empyriangaming]

Interesting

[@Glubbdubdrib]

And people are complaining about loot???? WTF

[@aska221]

can't wait for the game to be balanced around this and it becomes just another trade league soft core slop game

[@Osiris261]

they need to nerf those gloves.. like 30% less rarity.. as a penalty on the item..

[@cheerio3878]

SHIELDS UP FOR HARAMBE!

[@thedarkblitz]

tell ziz or ziggy to tell Johny to fix their GAMEEEEEEEEEEE FOKIN FIX YER GAME GGG!! ♥ HAHAHA

[@justjay3750]

you guys are giga chad gamers and you are having trouble. what chance do i have.

[@lordempalator]

Ill be the weirdo but even though ur winning less and obviously there are issues... ur actually having more fun with the rares being dangerous and having to raise shields and stuff.

[@Zylosio]

The rares arent the problem, the problem is that they are more dangerous after they are dead than alive. The entire point of the interactive gameplay this game is supposed to have is to not need these things anymore. They only exist in poe1 because its the only way to kill players, since you never interact with monsters basically. In poe2 rare fights are supposed to be challenging so i dont know why tf i still die to some chaos Explosion every 5 or so maps after everything is dead

[@khrishp]

​@@Zylosio I'm pretty sure as people start to get to end game that they're going to have a whole bunch of complaints about on-death effects and they're only going to get louder. So this is the best opportunity during early access to get it changed because they'll never change in POE1.

[@fast1nakus]

Are you trying to convince him that he has more fun? 😂

[@michaelblair8493]

so lame

[@ZeraZeraR]

Its kinda funny how ppl are struggling to remember that in PoE2 EA stream reveal they said that on start there wont be a 4th ascendancy point in game yet

[@khrishp]

What? Where is that? Never heard that

[@krual5013]

No they said the 3rd mechanic for acending won't be Avaliable. Where did they said the 4th difficulty wasn't avaliable

[@mulol]

first

[@zuga-3938]

cringe grouping tryhards

[@Empyriangaming]

Thanks!