I built a Chinese Carbon EBIKE!!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Loved doing this! Bike weight is 24.5KG (forgot to add that part to the vid!) have been riding the bike and it’s great!! Can’t wait to share the next vid. Also to add I am NOT suggesting this is the best way to go about getting an ebike!! Lots of time spent painting, building, waiting etc etc. - Warranty, reliability, longevity etc etc all need to be tested. And that’s one of the reasons I did this. To experiment. It’s a LOT of work to do it this way. Lots of tools, time and patience.

[@joshb5416]

Replacement of the long awaiting... decathlon stilus

[@cat1600k]

Looks great - tbh for the component cost it would be worth having a spare motor/battery as quick swap replacement- be interested in how motor compares noise and power delivery

[@alanblurr1265]

Looks a lot like Canyon Spectra, but think you got a better motor & spec for almost same price as 7.0, plus Canyon not available until who knows when?

[@kevinshort3943]

You pays your money and takes your chance. Cheap Chinese stuff, is cheap because they don't bother with QC :( Let's hope the frame is a good one, and doesn't snap putting you in hospital.

[@ikklepip]

@@kevinshort3943 you assume that big brand QC is decent. They often don’t X-ray or ultrasound scan the carbon frames, so there’s probably little difference between them. Look at Luescher Teknik’s channel where he cuts up and ultrasounds frames. Some of them can be quite bad!

[@IronX77]

Unexpected. You went above and beyond what any bafang conversion bloke would do. This is DIY done right, thank you for showing the way. This is really inspiring me!

[@7PHILIPP_]

I did built this bike after watching your video. I have to thank you so much, it is awesome! I recommend M600 motor, 29" wheels front/back and 160mm travel front and 150mm travel in the back.

[@mav5204]

Rob you earn my respect for trying it out I have a m600 from Frey and love it far surpassed my expectations your right nerve racking sending your money but paid off for me

[@tradesmith_yt]

As someone that does airbrush and Cerakote work this is one of the best videos on painting on KZbin. Wet sanding, all the right prep and a 2K clear! Cheers!

[@dacoma1584]

As a complete bike nerd buying every bike I have as a frame set and building them up, this is exactly what I've been waiting for. With the parts, time and a little bike building skills ... I'm sold.

[@PakdbyCellpak]

Rob this is one of your best videos, can’t wait for the review.

[@milocuevas]

agreed.

[@akkypac7877]

Agreed too! This is definitely next level stuff. Rob never says never to a challenge.

[@nitrorustler333]

Right?

[@jtsavola]

yeah!

[@flowjov10]

Damn it Rob you have just send me down the rabbit hole to research for myself... Why have I just ordered a premium ebike before I found your vid...? Really interested in your review.

[@thomasli2261]

That colour is absolutely dreamlike! The bike is absolutely stunning, I'm so stoked on how the bike ended aesthetically

[@smithgov]

Fantastic project and well produced video. I am not a big fan of the ebike in general, but always love DIY bike projects. If I ever did cross over to the ebike world I would build one up myself and of course refer back to this video. Thank you Rob.

[@JasonRostro]

Nice I like how he is so excited for accomplishing the built is just makes you smile. Way to go!!!! I don’t know if I could of accomplished this.

[@neekodevinchi]

Fair play Rob. I did the same thing by buying 4 alloy frames which use the Bafang Ultra motors in 2019. 3 full suspension frames and one hardtail. All four bikes I built cost me less than my Levo and Kenevo. This is the next step for ebike owners however, I do agree with you in terms of the purchasing process. I'm quite lucky to have private property which I can access in my neck of the woods. Perhaps I'll make a vid and upload my Bafang Ultra collection for all to see as all four still work after near 2 years. Keep up the vids Rob 🤙

[@mathewh3849]

What’s the weight of your full suspension alloy framed ones?

[@neekodevinchi]

@@mathewh3849 it differs between builds. The weight of each frame without batteries is between 17kg - 21kg. Each kilowatt battery weights 4.5kg. I will be honest and say that my builds are on the heavier side. But, they can fly when you want them too. I'm on the verge of preparing a vid showcasing them (just need to get permission from someone I know who owns private property again) so I'll update my EMTB Forums page when it hits. Let me know if you would like to see anything specific in the video. I've already have people asking me about geometry and motor power which I'll cover in great length. Ride safe dude 🤙

[@expomm]

I think this show a good quality bike is in order of the USD 6000, the calculation u guys made doesn’t include labor hours, if u account for that u end up pretty much in the same bracket price.

[@steviedsolve]

By far the best E-bike video I've ever seen Rob. Such interesting content and beautifully delivered. I've just built a short travel 29er and know how much work you've put into this. Fun but hard work. That paint job is fantastic and the whole bike looks gorgeous. And it's totally unique which has to be worth a lot to you. Can't wait to see how it rides.

[@sff5758]

After seeing so many scary reviews of Chinese carbon frames, I've subscribed to see the long term durability of the frame. Nice video

[@memecoinmafia2732]

there are plenty scary reviews of top brand carbon frames also

[@flightsimdev9021]

When I was 8 years old, my father bought me on my birthdays a part of a car, when I turned 21 I recieved the body and then for the first time I knew what I was making, At 23 my project was complete, a 911 Porsche. I kept that car until I was 39 as I knew it inside and out, Sadly my father died in 2001 but his memory and my project lives on even today in 2021. Great video and fantastic colouring.

[@shifty277]

Production quality of this is insane and the editing is really good as well as that the audio is fantastic relative to other content I watch on KZbin thanks for the effort thumbs up

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@paddydoddy7398]

Rob, what an absolutely brilliant video and effort from yourself, this video will genuinely inspire SO many riders to take the dive into "eeb-it-yourself" (trademark pending!). I'm so impressed with how much you have developed your you tube channel and your skills over the last 2 years, its been a pleasure to follow your journey, we have met a couple of times at Berkshire cycles and Peaslake and you have always been very approachable and genuinely friendly, I've had a gen 1 Turbo Levo expert for over 4 years now and I still love it as much as the first test ride! I'm in the market for a new bike this year(2021), as I've done everything I can to my ride to better it, plus I've been waiting for that "ground-breaking new bike" to hit the market, the SL almost temped me, but I think 2021 with have some pretty special things coming from various brands! Good luck with all your future endeavours and keep up the hard work (trust me, its greatly appreciated)... Happy New Year, 2020 can F--k right off! LOL

[@Swaggerlot]

A lot of people have cheap Chinese mountain bikes, they just don't realize it....

[@MrDaymien1]

hahahahahahhahha ,,, too funny but true .

[@jayryan7473]

Swaggerlot Yep. And I'm not sure why he titled this "cheap".

[@philippkraus7201]

@@jayryan7473 because its quite cheap for an carbon e bike with these components

[@HannyDart]

@@philippkraus7201 its not cheap. its just less expensive

[@MegaMitrandir]

@@HannyDart for a lot of people it's JUST Expensive ...

[@stevec5000]

His idea of Cheapest is much different from mine! LOL

[@daryldesjardins]

Fantastic video, you did a great build. You've just gave me the boost I needed to go with budget drivetrain and higher end suspension components. Cheers from Canada !!!!

[@urossm]

Best eMTB video by far. Good job. Bike looks stunning.

[@bradtrent5298]

You’re gonna cry long and hard after that first scratch! 😂

[@Fellafoe69]

Or when the frame cracks

[@TheAntoine191]

@@Fellafoe69 690$ for a frame swap is not that bad. I had some chinese frame in the past, none cracked. I would not use handlebar or fork because failure owuld be so bad but for other parts why not.

[@TheRCBasher69420]

I definitely did. My dad spent ages painting mine for Xmas and I took it out and him not being am expert on bikes hadn't adjusted the chain guide properly and so the chain came off and scratched up all the chain guide then i dropped a pair of pliers on it and scratched up the top tube and i just cried.

[@YerDad632]

Or in 6 months when that bafang blows up.

[@bradtrent5298]

@@YerDad632 😂😂😂😂😂

[@The5laYYer]

Just superb, really interesting, and the video is brilliantly produced ... hope the bike delivers! Well done Rob. I admire your patience too!

[@SophiaF3499]

Netherlands here, quite a lot of brands have a bafang motor, they're pretty good and some perform better than bosch. (Speaking as someone working in an e-bike store)

[@RafiRafi-yo8vn]

Any cheap ebikes , I'm in Netherlands

[@SophiaF3499]

@@RafiRafi-yo8vn "Van Dijck" compared to many brands it's pretty good quality and also uses bafang, front wheel or mid motor

[@plawrence7410]

@@SophiaF3499 they're not mountain bikes though

[@ashleybrook9121]

Absolutely epic, best looking ebike I've ever seen, and the spec has me excited aswell. Can't wait for the ride review and your thoughts on the Bafang motor, but very nicely done indeed. 👌🏻👍🏻

[@jackstubbings1258]

I can’t find the specs- can you put the link to them please

[@giuliom8520]

Great job on the paint job! It looks great, but I would have left it flat black and maybe put some select decals here and there on it maybe just because it's so much easier. Also, you'll never have to worry about scratching the flat black carbon frame.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

horrible paintjob. was looking brilliant in black satin and he made it look like a cheap plastic toy.

[@shellderp]

@@constantinosschinas4503na it looks epic

[@leeds106]

Well this could be an even cheaper alternative to the Decathlon Stilus. I bet you could build a nice enough bike for around £2000 if you bought cheaper suspension etc or even some good 2nd hand bits. Looks a nice bike Rob and that colour is 😍

[@harrydestcroix5516]

LEEDS106 or just build a lot of bikes. Then order from rockshox and get quantity discount. If a bike is cheap it doesn’t bother me what it looks like although I wouldn’t need an e bike

[@TheAntoine191]

That's the price of frame and battery. Decent long travel suspension won't come free. You can go down to Yari/Deluxe select level but that's still serious money. If you want wheels that'll stay a bit true for the kind of stuff this kind of machine is meant to ride it'll cost a bit too. I would say 600$ for the fork 250$ for the shock 250$ for the wheels, tires cost a lot of money and matters a lot too. 100 for the dropper 20$ for each component. In the end it addup.

[@1fareast14]

6:42 carbon fiber dust is no joke, hope you used ventilation + mask, or respirator

[@mortenbecker-eriksen4665]

Sure, if it is you dayjob in 20 years that would be important . As a one off I doubt wet sanding cf can cause anything.

[@oliverbourne9599]

Got a thumbs up as soon as I heard : "I'm calling it the CHEEB" 😄😄

[@ProtoKJ]

its a swear word meaning vag in cantonese lol

[@maxzheng9826]

Great job Rob. Dengfu is a good company, super busy for them now. I ordered a bike from them and waiting to be arrived. I paid a bit extra for the custom make color for the frame. but your DIY color are awesome too.very good job!!

[@shingnosis]

Mega video. Already have an eMTB but I like tinkering and building my own stuff, might have to do for my next bike in 2 years or so.

[@BlondeEskimo]

Im still waiting for someone to put a lightbar an one of these E-mtb, with that batter size im sure you could get it to last ages!

[@lukemillar]

Should have put some “cheeb” decals under the clear because that name is too good to not show it off!

[@richardbaker9876]

Very interesting project Rob - well done, and like many others who have commented I'm interested to see how this stands up to punishment, and I agree with your comments about the Deore drivetrain - I've been running Deore cassettes on my Focus Jam2 for the last couple of years with no problems. I got 1600 miles out of one cassette and chain combo, and only replaced them because it seemed like I should - they still worked fine! The current set is on about 1000 miles at the moment with no issues. I'm quite interested by many of the comments regarding Chinese quality. Not all manufacturers will be up to scratch for sure (but that's the case everywhere, even here in the UK). I design products for a Chinese manufacturing company who supply Domestic Lighting, to US, UK and various other markets. Obviously these are safety critical items and subject to stringent testing and certification, in a similar way to the testing that would be required for a bike frame. In our factory we manufacture for some rather top end retailers and we also make stuff at the lower end of the price scale for Walmart!! Same production lines, same staff, same Design, R&D and sampling dept., same process, work flow management, testing and QC broadly speaking. Different customers do have slightly different requirements, but they all follow the required legislation. It's usually the materials, and components that are specced that makes the most difference to the perceived quality and price of the product. I would imagine that this is a very similar scenario in the bike manufacturing industry. I don't know if Dengfu are an OEM manufacturer for any big brand cycle companies? In our industry, by having long standing relationships and working closely with branded and trusted retailers we've learnt good practice over the years, so if a Chinese frame manufacturer has similar relationships they would also benefit from this, and they should therefore be able to offer a quality product on a direct basis. However, some Chinese manufacturers will cut corners if they are off loading goods into the domestic market or just shipping stuff out directly to end customers, so potential home builders should do their research and proceed with both eyes open and at the same time be aware that the money saved is probably a good proportion of what brands charge in order to be able to achieve brand confidence through customer support, replacement parts, warranties etc.

[@carljones7992]

What an absolute legend. Amazing video earned you a sub. This and your protection video but this was another class. What you achieved paint finish and under budget...incredible

[@_d33z]

Man, that’s the best looking emtb I’ve ever seen in my life. Great job with the build!

[@chickenclips]

Well done mate and kudos for hanging in there. I would have left it stock and rode the shit out it lol. Excellent video!! Ahead of the pack by miles

[@PYROFLOWROCKETSTOVES]

Rob i am so excited to see your video. Finally a professional review of the bafang. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say SUCK IT ! To all the over priced big mafia bike companies that have tried there hardest to keep bafang down and prices up.

[@elricengquist9989]

The bike looks great, and looked quite intuitive build wise. Will say been wishing we might see a shift away from hard wired lights an turning lights on bikes, as some companies can put pretty low grade lights on them, and a switch to having some usb ports on the bike frame. I say this as many lights have usb connectors it seems, allowing us to choose what light we enjoy the most, and still run it off the battery of the bike over buying a battery we need to fit on the bike. Put on some covers to hide the ports when not in use, and even the companies having their own lights you can use built for the bikes they sell an it would be a nice change.

[@brentmckenzie5808]

Have assembled 2 of these E10 Dengfu frames with both having done over 2,000kms so far. I used the M600 motor which is rated at 750w peak. I also got the carbon wheels, stem, headset and handlebar direct from Dengfu. These are great bikes and you typically only use assist level 1 or 2. The range on the battery is around 80kms as long as you don't use too much assist. Purchased spare batteries as well. My brother & I have ridden trails all over New Zealand. Rob's approach in using a mid level mech set is spot on. All E-enduro bikes are hard on gear so replacement cost of cassettes etc needs to be reasonable. Get XT 4 pot brakes though and good front and rear suspension. My guidance is not be frightened of Dengfu frames. I found the company great to deal with and am currently ordering 2 more for friends.

[@andreahickman1222]

The Bafang motor is incredibly impressive! I swear by it no matter what!!

[@harisbuza8862]

Looks amazing! Please do a heaps of jumps and drop-offs. We all want to see if you can break the frame 😆

[@RobRidesEMTB]

For sure! Needs a proper test

[@bradtrent5298]

Best answer yet! I think we’ve all seen Chinese carbon frame break videos...although this looks pretty damn solid. 🤔

[@insanebmxthomas]

@@bradtrent5298 from what i'm told most frames are either chinese or taiwanese.. what name brand companies do differently is quality control and rejection. i worked with chinese suppliers in electronics and they're not all fun to work with. most would try to bypass checks, re-use circuit boards for example and if you don't notice.. no recourse, because china. pinkbike had a video where a company they interviewed said 'basically we need someone in china all year to quality check parts'. They CAN make a good product but generally if there's no oversight, you're effed.

[@bradtrent5298]

@@insanebmxthomas Oh, I get it.....and that’s why no matter how good the spec or how solid the design looks, there are still all those Chinese Carbon frame explosion videos that would make me pucker if I was the guy flying down a hill on the back of one of them! 😬

[@justlikeyouful]

A lot of guys have already been thrashing frames from this company. Only major complaint is to put locktite on all the hardware threads so it doesn't rattle loose.

[@philippexu4238]

Great build, but I wouldn't call it "cheap"

[@jamescox389]

I thought it was a great video, But I also agree NOT a cheap ebike. Maybe under £1500.😁

[@aaronlister2741]

@@jamescox389 a brand new carbon ebike with the rated specs the “cheeb” has, plus suspension he’s fitted, plus painting and all the rest of the parts. You’ve no chance for anywhere near £1500. Considering the forks are half that budget alone...

[@gaveltron]

in the world of mountain biking, this is cheap. Outside of that world though, not so much.

[@nebnollock5198]

A levo that costs £300 more comes with some of the lowest ender components so its actually an amazing deal

[@hiftylonghead892]

@@aaronlister2741 he said cheapest ebike, this isnt the cheapest ebike, simple as that mate

[@jimfoster1724]

Rob, I want to thank you for adding the dollars to pounds conversion in the video. It helps Yanks like me out a lot! Beautiful, beautiful bike. Fantastic 😊

[@Igorp133]

Totally agree with your approach! The most important things in ANY bike: Suspension, Wheelset aтв brakes. Transmission is an expendable part and 10 speed is more than enough having powerful e-motor assistance

[@marcusmiller3491]

Holy cow...nice work dude!!! Your attention to detail is amazing! Keep up the good work 👏

[@samwillis9068]

Looks great, I ordered myself a Frey M600 for about the same price and am just waiting for it to be built and shipped

[@McTrailRider]

Incredible Rob! Dare I say, a game changing video!? This is going to get both consumers and bike companies thinking👍

[@michaelmazani]

Have a great 2021 Rob and thank you for all you did in the last year

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks Michael you too 👊

[@michaelmazani]

@@RobRidesEMTB for real, you built that bike for that price? 🤯 I might just do that myself as well then, though my 2019 ebike is still riding great.

[@Pelle.frederiks]

I find the scene at the end of the vid where he says “I did it!” Very relatable one of the best feelings is when something you’ve spend a lot of time on just works and it’s done

[@mattsavage]

"Tony" at Dengfu is great been buying all my XC hardtails, CX, road bikes off them for over a decade. Never one single issue with any frame and I'm a Cat 1/Clyde racer.

[@jonathancole9829]

You should do a collaboration with Hambini and get him to do a frame quality check. Be interesting to see what the alignments are like and if there are any flaws in the carbon.

[@ChilapaOfTheAmazons]

Fun fact: _"cheap"_ in British English means _"expensive"._ 🤪

[@enisab4495]

Ebikes from known brands cost 6 to 8 thousand pounds

[@ChilapaOfTheAmazons]

@@enisab4495 a simple search on eBay finds electric bikes for less than 300€. That's would I would call "cheap" in this context.

[@enisab4495]

@@ChilapaOfTheAmazons are you stupid? Bikes at that price snap in half after you sit on them, the battery the motor and the components like brakes wheels drivetrain etc. are 100% trash and will be useless after a ride

[@CRS204]

@@enisab4495 you couldn’t be over exaggerating more. One ride? One ride? You really really think a bike is going to be unridable after ONE SINGLE RIDE? You think it will snap in half just sitting in it? You have no right to call someone else stupid if that’s honestly what you think will happen. Obviously $300 cheap will not be anywhere near a $6k bike quality. Literally everyone already knows that. You tried to make someone else look dumb by actually being dumb. I love to see it.

[@hannes6114]

I mean 5500 dollars is nowhere near cheap, that's fucking much money but 300 dollars for that kind of bike would just be like getting it gifted. Even up to 1500 dollars or something i would call this bike cheap. After that not anymore. But since we are already here... What does cheap really mean? Having a low price in general or a low price for what you get?

[@halgillilan]

FFS Rob, if this next video makes me sell my Levo and do this, I'm sending you an invoice! Great vid, looking forward to the next.

[@gameaddict6969]

I love the reaction to painting something for a first time. I am the same way. Does not take much for me to be inpressed. Just like being in a toy store!!

[@LawrenceButcher]

Very impressed with your first effort at a DIY spray job, nice work!

[@adamg6199]

That paint job looks better than my Norco sight vlt A1. The factory paint is crap Nice job 👍 might repaint mine now!!

[@lazycarper7925]

i liked the factory paint more

[@rustler08]

Many of the paintjobs on these bikes are garbage. The paint on my 2018 Enduro Elite is faded and pathetic, to the point where I'm going to have to strip it and repaint it so it doesn't look like shit.

[@mattving61]

Weight?

[@stobot7213]

The problem with rattle can paint is that it won't last. It's fine for decorative objects, but on mtb it's a nighmare in the long run. Spray gun with high quality automotive paint is a must for this type of use.

[@ThitoO]

e-bike noob here, I'm wondering why going with a carbon frame where the bike will ultimately end up very heavy because of the motor and battery ? An aluminium frame wouldn't be better for this kind of build ?

[@joshj7987]

Your still saving weight in the end with carbon

[@johnhanley9059]

It is worth it to save the weight so it is easier to throw the bike around the trail. A lighter bike will be able to jump higher, and be maneuvered easier

[@jayryan7473]

@@johnhanley9059 LOL you obviously know little about frame materials. And you don't seem to comprehend the idea of using a metal frame on an e bike vs some chinese carbon.

[@aidanf2610]

@@johnhanley9059 honestly a few pound difference probably won’t make a big difference in regards to maneuverability and jump height. A rider will get used to any bike/weight with time.

[@tomlennon1709]

Recommended video to me and it was shot 10 minutes from my house, what are the chances 😂 great video 👍

[@infratuna]

@ 14:12 Hearing "I DID IT" made me happy :) Well done!

[@Stuff-i-Like]

PAINT - i have done ceramic and pretty paint prior wit rattle can's, and you can get a great finish, well done.

[@manuelmar1142]

Test climp /uphill, sensors,response inside extreme climp,etc

[@dishwasher534]

Dude thats the best video i´ve seen in my live. everything is just perfect

[@MrHuangyiping]

Don't be "surprised" if you get another made in China with decent quality because made in China means great quality if you pay enough.

[@julen9438]

Taiwán has the control quality china needs lool

[@julen9438]

And also start making own frames and stop copying old bike carbon frame standards

[@MrAnonymousRandom]

If I have to pay more than Ali express prices for made in China goods from unknown suppliers, I start looking for alternatives. Many made in China products that you can expect some quality control on cannot even compete on price. It will be interesting to see how much Vietnamese manufacturing undercuts China in the future.

[@trevorgorham7290]

I have the Deore on my mountain bike, and I think it's perfectly sufficient! Good choice man!

[@Terrificflows]

This video is so good! Cant wait to see you testing the bike! Much love !

[@mydriaze9951]

One mistake: always protect yourself (lungs!) when you're sanding/cutting carbon. It can be inhaleted.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Sure. I did for the most part, just the recording of the vid I forgot to wear it. But good point 👍

[@CarkeekW]

Wet sanding keeps that risk down a lot but a very good point none the less.

[@mydriaze9951]

@@RobRidesEMTB it’s only for your safety my friend! ;)

[@cramerlong2276]

@@mydriaze9951 LOL Doing one bike doesn't create health issues . Even if he painted without a mask . It wouldn't do damage just once . He'd get high as a kite but once outside he'd be alright :)

[@cramerlong2276]

@@RobRidesEMTB Great job . So what do you think your prep totals amounted to . Obviously a Spray booth cost you something . Looking forward to seeing your ride review . Best of luck on that. Also I paint Cars . When we paint we obviously smooth out the sins between coats . Like splashes and runs etc. However each coat blends into the paint of the previous coat . Kinda like how lacquer melts the coats together . It's normally not a practice to polish between coats . The paint itself takes care of that . Provided your other coats were in the time frame suggested by can instructions . If it said sand between coats they just meant rough sanding . I don't do much rattle can painting . So maybe it's a process I don't know about . But I don't think so . If you do this type of project again get yourself one of these. Makes painting sweeps much easier then just the nozzle on the rattle can . It's called Rust-Oleum-Comfort-Grip-Universal. There's a few brands out . Works great It makes the spray job look that much better *AGAIN GREAT JOB* Quite Impressive

[@rrobets1983]

This is amazing. Do you have a full bill of materials? I want to build the same bike!

[@su1raM]

Amazing build, amazing color! But isn't chain to short? Looks like on biggest cog it will snap derailleur.

[@yaishmatheen4274]

No it wont.

[@danielvanwyk4936]

Best looking bike ive ever seen!! Amazing job. Great vid

[@fabiocamposvillaverde3264]

One of the most beautiful color I have seen in a bike. Amazing video dude 🤟

[@dantegarcia6509]

I love how he says cheapest while costing $4000

[@templeofgains8479]

Go try and find an Enduro e-bike with 170mm ZEB forks for less than £4000.......PLEASE

[@Driver8takeabreak]

Agreed. Mountain biking really does seem to be pricing out so many people. $5500 is still a LOT of money.

[@Lgarner17_]

If it was fully Chinese all the parts and stuff he’d be dead so he has to put good parts on at least but still not cheap yh

[@dantegarcia6509]

Dudes, I wish I had $1000 to spend on a project like this

[@thedon2703]

A carbon full suspension ebike with quality components is a steal at 4k. Maybe you should stick to Walmart bikes.

[@thomasmeyer8336]

Check the video from Joe damois ( Danger) I hope yor frame is more reliable . Amazing work !

[@PoloPulse]

Cheap? You nuts? Fucking hell that's as much money as a normal Dutch ebike costs mate! That is not cheap!

[@dendricalabro5058]

hello great video, you inspired me for a project for the winter: build an ebike. Now the video is great, but a lot about the painting part; some of us probably need more info about the EVERYTHING installation. I m reading your build thread but I garantee you that a specific video to HOW TO assemble evrything on this frame will be very very very useful (for me in any case). In case, thx in advance

[@MarioNhampossa]

Wow 🤩 Rob, you got me excited 😝 I’m feeling very confident in building myself e E-Bike just like yours... i built3 years ago, my Giant Reign... with electrics I’m not very comfortable but watching your vid... I’m pretty sure I can do it ☺️

[@truecrimewithglenclark9098]

I built the worlds most expensive Chinese ebike should be the title. If this is cheap sir please will you pay my rent. This cheap bike will cover half the year

[@stacynewcomb7102]

Great video, but please don't use the word "Cheap" in any of its forms when talking in excess of a £1000, thats's just clickbait.

[@jessegraves9130]

Not necessarily, it’s all about the perspective. I’m not an electric mtb pro or anything but I’m relation to the prices of other electric mountain bikes, this is definitely “cheap”. Maybe putting cheap in quotations would be more fitting.

[@MaYbYl8eR]

i agree? it can go cheaper much easily this isnt even an attempt

[@joemanning8564]

Ditto that remark, he could have gone cheaper.

[@jamesc-w1590]

ebikes can be up to 9k that is cheap

[@victorenchev6582]

@@jessegraves9130 just before the lockdown I was in the shop and electric specialied mountain bike was 5500 ,so yes thats 1450 less

[@Trezoro]

decent, decent, decent haha. Really good video appreciate the quality

[@fsp23]

Unbelievable paint finish! Great work Rob 🙏🏻

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks! Hope you’re well 👍

[@MegaNayton]

Great looking bike. I don't know what it is but that feeling you get when something you built/put together works and performs is amazing. Also it's much more satisfying then just going out and buying a bike off the shelf. I do think if you was more budget friendly you probably could of built that bike for a lot less. I will say vids like this are good to see as it might encourage other riders of ebikes or analogue bikes to convert or build an ebike

[@sethelliott9923]

Am I the only one who is worried because they've heard some horrifying stories about these Chinese carbon bikes snapping?

[@marcalvarez4890]

You mean like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIuriJxohNpoi5o

[@maxgusarov2156]

@@marcalvarez4890 yes

[@peteralleyman1945]

@Pheeb Hello That's not true and the trustworthy companies that do, have the chinese companies under their own quality control. Chines companies are, certainly for the time being, not trustworthy.

[@gabydewilde]

This is why I ride 100 year old bikes worth 30 euro.

[@Foodmeow]

I wouldn't hit any drops or jumps with that frame. Crack easily and you'll hurt yourself! Legit please invest into a brand bike frame set. Videos like this encourage others to do the same and you might end up hurting yourself. I just want people to invest properly and be safe!

[@sw9506]

Any Import Duty or VAT on the overseas parts Rob?

[@rogermuppet]

4000$ is not cheap, yo! :O

[@TheEchelon]

It's not, but it's much cheaper than equivalent finished offerings.

[@drpinchovsky3211]

Prior to the "Trump" or "Idiots Effect" on the cost of goods originating in China passed on to US consumers this would have been in the neighborhood of $3000. Those tariff's are really helping...

[@ChrisChevs]

@@TheEchelon Check out Sur Ron's. They are much cheaper and rip way harder XD

[@Cavemanheartrock]

@@drpinchovsky3211 Yea, they're helping china from robbing us the american TAX PAYER. Not the American Consumer.

[@valderja]

Fantastic results! Nice work.

[@marmax2437]

This truly looks VERY good! Thank you for the awesome video

[@callumkingunderwood]

"cheapest", proceeds to spend over 4 grand. Right

[@kenangedik3678]

Lmao right? Just buy a motorcycle or a car at that point.

[@Rhythm.E30]

Its an e bike not just a bike

[@callumkingunderwood]

@@Rhythm.E30 yeah, and you can build an ebike for under a grand. By ebike standards, it's expensive

[@Rhythm.E30]

@@callumkingunderwood i don't think i would trust a full suspension e bike that is under a grand...

[@gasperh.9800]

@@callumkingunderwood ebikes under grand are either city bikes, with cheap hub motor, or DIY emtbs which are not suitable for serious riding, ... Actually good emountain bikes cost $5k+

[@Nickporter17]

The experiment that the bike industry is terrified by...

[@damienm8416]

Yeah , back in the 90´s to about the beginning of the 2000´s it was the norm to build your own bike if you wanted something good .

[@zionneidorf6740]

ive got a strange feeling that this bike might crack really badly

[@justlikeyouful]

You might be right... but boy is it a lot of work to do what he is doing. And for reference are their any Chinese motocross kits I could just build up myself to save a few grand?

[@StuninRub]

@@zionneidorf6740 As with all carbon frames. These "chinese" frames are made in the same factory with the same hands as the ones as $6,000 + brand name frames.

[@R3ddyyg]

@@StuninRub With less QC

[@lanceriggott3020]

You should call it “the beast from the east” since it’s a Chinese frame

[@rooksfoot1184]

Cannondale did that back in the 90s for the swingarm designs on the Super Vs :)

[@BigBoy-tm5lf]

The paint job is great, great work loving the vids keep it up.

[@tylerboyd5058]

Far out this video has made me realize how fun and easy building a ebike is great job by far favourite biking video

[@mydoto]

cheapest, Chinese, carbon fiber, electric........what could go wrong? lmao

[@mathboydrum]

If they aren't lying about the specs then not much

[@mydoto]

@@mathboydrum Chinese are not known for quality control. They rather pump out quantity over quality.

[@AdamBjerregaard]

@@mydoto If you are not riding a custom hand made frame, then you got the pumped out mass production frame, I have both and there is a price difference.

[@mydoto]

@@AdamBjerregaard supply and demand, simple concept. quality vs quantity, simple concept.

[@a_spire]

@@mathboydrum bruh I've seen countless videos of the frame breaking

[@mramtb2865]

Wow the battery has a crazy price

[@OnzeManInKazakhstan]

Main problem/cost is shipping. Batteries are considered very hazarduous (after a 747 went down with all crew).

[@snijboer]

He sounds so much like Jackfrags.

[@moonstriker7350]

It's iridescent like some of those beautiful dragonflies. Gorgeous! Dream bike, looks way better than big brands with their tasteless high contrast decor and logos that break up the shape.

[@kevinbrown5321]

I've been buying direct from China for decades. In the past its been hi end audio equipment and it is hi end. The value is amazing. Just bought a shengmilo mx02s emtb. Arrived in 8 days and had to pay an extra £38 import charges. If not for brexit they would have been waived

[@YerDad632]

We call that “putting whipped cream on a turd” in my shop.

[@marcalvarez4890]

Or to quote that sage of american intellectual life, "Lipstick on a pig"

[@59trevski]

Why can’t we buy frame and motor anyway, choose our own upgrades instead of wasting money 💰 🤘

[@createdbynemanja3431]

You can lol

[@XBOX360Zocka]

because of the ebike regulations made by goverment. Same reason why u arent allowed to change some things on an prebuild emtb

[@riolutetia2764]

guess he build a " decendt" bike :) stopped counting how often he said decent at some point

[@chrisparky]

That looks ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well done

[@TheFatLobster]

REALLY cool bike and a good job with the paint, looks stunning!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks a lot!