[EN/JP] [고등래퍼4/6회] 불안한 기운이 맴도는 박재범 X pH-1 X 우기 팀의 준비과정은? | Mnet 210326 방송

[@mjlee2185]

자신의 자리에 대한 불안감에 그렇게 안 보이는, 자기 보다 관심/칭찬을 받는 친구의 약점을 찾아 깎아내려서, 위축되게 하는 모습이 처음부터 엿보였습니다.. 좋은 리더, 선배, 형, 팀 멤버, 친구, 동료, 사람은 친구의 부족한 점을 보완하려 돕고나, 응원해주는게 맞는 듯 합니다 주위사람을 이렇게 대하다 보면 결국 주위에 사람이 떨어져 나가게 되있습니다 옆에 사람이 남아도 그 사람들의 사랑과 존중은 아마 없을겁니다 어린나이인데 앞에 실력은 물론, 무한한 가능성이 있으니 부디 자신을 성찰하고 더 나은 사람이 되길 응원하겠습니다

[@무2-x9h]

ㄹㅇ

[@myouthisfree]

4:15 다현이 표정 뭔가 웃으면서 하하.. 하고 있을 것 같은데ㅜㅜ 진짜 나도 진심이다 플루마..지금까지 수고했어..

[@hanaoh306]

보니까 박재범도 여기서 팀 단합력 떨어지게 흐트리는 사람이 누군지 딱 보여서 고민하고 걱정하고 신경 쓰이는게 보인다.. 예의없고 버릇없고 겸손하지 않은 사람 싫어하는거 평소에도 많이 얘기했어서 팀에서 떨어뜨릴 사람이 누구일지 그냥 대충 예상 간다;;;

[@eeeeeeee1258]

ㅇㄴ 근데 박재범도 정상은 아님 솔직히 산이 sns로 욕할때도 좀 역겨웠어 실력은 깔껀 없긴해

[@Riversiss]

@@eeeeeeee1258 자기 소속 아티스트 비트 디스하니까 의리 있게 hot summer 비트 좋다고 한건데 그게 이렇게 변질되네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그럼 소속 아티스트가 까이는데 가만히 있으리? 너나 니네 가족 욕먹으면 가만히 있으렴ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그거 갖고 정상 ㅇㅈㄹ 하고있네 산이는 아예 대놓고 디스했는데 산이도 정상 아님? 게다가 박재범은 산이 디스도 아니고 그냥 'hot summer 지지하는 사진'만 올렸는데? 알고 말해ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 어디서 주워 들은 걸로 아는체 ㄴㄴ 요즘 산이가 쇼미 나오니까 그때 일 미화시키는 놈들 많네ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@sky-lover]

서바이벌 프로그램에서 팀미션이 이래서 있어야하구나. 덕분에 플루마 송민재가 현재는 그릇이 충분한 사람은 아니란걸 알게됨. 인성과 음악은 별개라해도..문제있음. 무엇보다 너무 경솔함. 한대 콩 찍어주고싶네

[@hihihiheheh15]

3:09 다현이 가사 절었는데 창모 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 왜 신나하는데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@고라니-b4o]

긍까 말그대로 애가막 악의가지고 나쁜앤아닌데 눈치가뒤진거임..

[@루카스모우라-p7s]

그게 병신이라불리는이유지

[@user-mb4sn3tq1x]

@@루카스모우라-p7s ㅇㅈ

[@dirken]

매우 무례한거죠. 이건 눈치의 문제보다는 도덕의 문제죠. 가령 역지사지하는 마음, 공감 같은 것들의 결여? 같은데

[@황금세-f2d]

나도 근데 대학생때 저런 이미지였고 후배들이나 동기들이 싫어했는데 저런경우는 주변에도 타일러줘도안됨 스스로 깨닳아야하는데 좀 오래걸려 저런애들은 대부분은..

[@고라니-b4o]

쨋든 본인은 억울할거임 뭘 잘못한지를 모름 저런 케이스 주변에 있긴함 나머지는 아는데 본인만 억울해함

[@B쑹민]

4:15 아니 플루마 불안한건 이해하는데, 저건좀아니지않나...

[@eunjunk3748]

플루마 다음주/다다음주: 아 플래그 세웠지 그때... 회수하게되겄네

[@rp-fr1hm]

흥 차오르는 현진이 귀여워

[@Kyung731]

저런놈이 형이라는게....

[@맛있는감자-k4z]

플루마는 생각이 너무 얕고 경솔한거같은데...

[@이재준-c5s]

@@EhdTkrlzzz ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 언행일치 지리노

[@humans2134]

나잇값 못하는 놈 중 하나

[@허허-n1g]

4:05 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅅㅂ 니가 박재범을 가르쳐?

[@jimelleconson6405]

Look at dahyun, so handsome with his forehead

[@mayou7381]

*yasss!!!*

[@jiyeonkang9158]

다현찍는 창모 너무 흐믓해 ❤️❤️

[@YeonRinKwon]

Hyunjin manage to still slay his part despite him forgetting his lyrics. If I have to rank him on the team for this perf he’s still 2nd, attitude problem or not I saw pluma getting eliminated his part just didn’t give me any impact. Bemo forgetting his part in the practice is normal, adding more pressure to it won’t help its much better to guide him, that was wrong on pluma’s part I’m glad bemo didn’t make any mistakes he’s the best out of 4 of them for this round. Anyway let’s chill on the words regarding the teens guys.

[@ナムルぞ-q9u]

더콰 염따팀이었으면 스포가 되어버렸지모얌 이럴걸 ㅌㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@y2j9w4]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@동그라미먹는감자]

4:15 이건 너무하지않냐 장난이라 쳐도 이건 선넘었지

[@dindarahma454]

2:58 다현쓰 이마 for lifee 🔥🔥

[@m6c-f5s]

눈치 없는 타입에 매너도 없는듯 안타깝네...

[@걱극각곡]

4:21 웃는거 지건마렵네

[@gydnjs983]

꼭 저런애 젤먼저 떨어짐

[@eunjunk3748]

ㅇㅈ 가위바위보도 내가 다 이길테니까 가위바위보하자하는 애가 짐 ㅋㅋ 플래그를 새워버리는 Mr. 플루마씌 플루마 응원하고 있었는데 플래그 새웠네 쩔수 없겄네 글렀어

[@잇잇-c8f]

ㄹㅇㅋㅋ

[@김지용YouTube]

엌ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@김경환-r5m4x]

4:08 응아니야

[@iruyeel6982]

민재야,, 너 그러면 안됐어,, 고랩3때부터 내가 을매나,,, 응원했는데 ㅠㅜㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[@byz.9202]

I don't understand why pluma acted that way. How are these attitudes? Guys, when I wrote this comment, I was angry with Pluma. But Pluma is eliminated. I didn't want him to read the comments and be upset any more. I hope you do better in the future

[@dindin5582]

Just mnet evil edit even jay said at story

[@emilypiao6818]

@@dindin5582 it is evil edit but he did actually do these things

[@dindin5582]

@@emilypiao6818 all scripts

[@timtaam]

We already know how evil editing Mnet is, so please don't be like that

[@emilypiao6818]

@@timtaam I don't mean to attack him, but like it's both sides' fault, if his behavior was alright mnet wouldn't have gotten the chance to evil edit.

[@pooh8846]

민재야 지금까지 수고했어 화이팅

[@Lisa-ev6qi]

I feel like pluma jokes around a lot but obviously some times these jokes are not needed when there's a lot of pressure? Dahyun was messing up his lyrics and everything so pluma told him in the waiting room. "I wanted to say this from the start but you've worked worked until now?" so he's basically saying like you've worked hard until now and so now you will be eliminated ?? please correct me if I'm wrong! But he’s still young he’s still learning he doesn’t deserve this amount of hate. Instead he needs to grow and learn through his mistakes eg.

[@totoro_0__0_3]

That's what i understood too... I was like whaaaatt .. that's not so nice bro

[@anonymouscomment120]

실력은 진짜 좋은데 아직 철이 안들었네

[@shaniavan5132]

the fact that pluma spoiled the song idk if he apologized for that or but he provoked the other team multiple times, that already gives off a sign of his attitude evil edit or not that was his own actions. mnet could evil edit about what he said to lil bemo but still. pluma said and did those things as his own actions regards of the edits.

[@finayosefina]

Oh well, no matter how talented u are, manner comes first, i'm glad he's out... Some fans may say that this just evil editing or whatsoever, but if u're watching him from ep.1 u should know for sure, that some kind of rudeness can't be tolerated.

[@jiyeonkang9158]

손 꺼냈는데 고양이 손 귀여워❤️❤️

[@cristyxiong]

You can see how nervous hyunjin was 🥺 i wished someone woulda hyped him up to give him confidence instead of pressuring him.

[@billyandersonmarwoen8821]

Yes yes...😭😭😥😥

[@MrJy448]

bruh... Pluma is baaaad vibes man...

[@rhdbnjs3920]

여기 3:23초 이렇게 물어본것도 그렇고 악편아닌거같은데..

[@gd3921]

Changmo wants dahyun so bad and we can see it clearly. He's a big fan of him. Changmo tell The Q to sign in him up in ambition already so we can get another maknae.

[@주안동황금발]

3:26 웨모 팀은 집으로~~ ???:송민재 학생은 집으로 돌아가셔도 좋습니다

[@keishajelia916]

okay my bias get together here

[@안세진-z2d]

고랩 안보는 사람이 봐도 누구땜에 분위기 흐트러지는지 다 보이는뎅~~~^^ 더 ㄹㅈㄷ는 자기가 잘못하고있는걸 모름~~^^ 글고 무대 끝나고 박현진 가사절었다고 불만 표출한건 뭐냐??^^

[@elmanaviasalsabela9565]

What did Pluma said at 3:27 ???? I'm curious because Jay Park seems uncomfortable with it

[@nicarodriguez8878]

He kept repeating a line from their song that goes "Waymo team, go home~" (probably to jokingly provoke the other team)

[@Gwang03]

Hes saying “team waymo going home” Basically bming and mocking the other team and thats not good manner

[@cwk05]

@@Gwang03 It was part of song tho

[@Gwang03]

@@cwk05 he saying it after the song ended tho, repeatedly. Saying it constantly means they want the others to know exactly what they are saying, and he wants to catch Waymo's attention because he is bming them.

[@cwk05]

@@Gwang03 From he’s ig live he talk about that the people who are hosting the show ask him to do those kind of stuff for getting attentions and stuff.

[@에라이-b5i]

왤케 송민재 깔미냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@dy12-17]

송민재도 잘한건 아닌데 친구가 더 레전드네

[@Claire86480]

ㄹㅇㅋㅋ 손절각 아니누

[@커뮤충]

무슨 친구?

[@dy12-17]

@@커뮤충 송민재 스토리 인터넷에 올린 친구

[@daehyeonkim715]

김다현이 우승하겠네 송민재가 얕본 이영지도 우승했는데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@허허-n1g]

??? 송민재ㅜ이영지 얕봄? 미친놈이네 근데 저번에도 나왔나보다

[@수박수박수박]

@@허허-n1g 막 그건 힙합 아니란 식으로 했는데 고의인지는 몰라도 그때도 눈치없었음

[@0911-i4j]

@@수박수박수박 그건 그냥 악편임

[@0911-i4j]

@@수박수박수박 드립치면서 놀던거

[@물컵-i2z]

@@수박수박수박 그건 본인들끼리 장난치는 분위기 아니었나요?이번처럼 불편한 발언도 별로 없었고 재밌게 논다고 생각했는데

[@wmwntk]

Everyone need spoiler and then Minjae gives to them. So lucky who have that beat spoiler

[@mayday2282]

pluma is doing that just to have attention.... that’s messed up for his team mates

[@mari-id5db]

I thought they will eliminate Hyeonjin cause he messed his lyrics but yeah the choose Pluma instead shookt but not surprise

[@MissGourmandefr]

In the end, hyunkin only forgot about 3 words and his part was more memorable than Pluma, that’s my opinion but I think one of the guest judges said the same

[@mari-id5db]

Maybe because the lyrics that hyeonjin made is more catchy, but all of them really did well ❤️

[@sharonoh9120]

hyunjin’s overall talent, versatility, and potential is much better than pluma’s imo. he is the best singer on this show while also being a good rapper

[@itsjustsej]

Y'all gotta stop giving so much hate on pluma. It's this mnet who always does this manipulative editing that makes one look like an evil. And it's sad that not just pluma but so many people has been centre of hate because of mnet's evil editing. So stop spreading negativity and hatred towards him. And ik he made some mistakes but this guy is still young and has alot to learn and grow from it. I hope that he realises his mistakes and learn from it.

[@byz.9202]

I wrote the same in a comment above, I am writing here too. You may be right. It was shared a bit to make a premium for the program, but Pluma again took different behaviors. It may be a little rude, but I found it disrespectful. I hope the whole problem is actually due to the Mnet edit.Pluma is a good rapper I hope this video doesn't affect his future.

[@itsjustsej]

@@byz.9202 yeah can't deny that his behavior was rude tho but,hope he learns from it.

[@byz.9202]

@@itsjustsej I hope he's good in the future :)

[@sanjanasiswas]

@@itsjustsej exactly!!! Teen blood is stupid.. Now u can't go around hating just for being ass to somebody.. Everybody is an ass to somebody.. People need to stop hatin

[@DoyeonProductions]

tbh, i think an adequate amount of criticism is necessary for him to be more reflective upon this actions cuz clearly there were some problems. im not saying to keep hating, but the criticism is definitely necessary

[@MissGourmandefr]

To be honest I realized since ep 1 that song minjae (pluma) has been having a real arrogant attitude, maybe fame got to his head after he appeared on the previous season. His remarks about others were quite inappropriate, he’s been having that I’m better than anyone attitude, and it got back to him. You can see at the end that he still doesn’t get it when he says he doesn’t understand why he got eliminated. Too bad his skills were not bad PS: don’t come for me saying it’s evil editing, sure Mnet is not innocent but in the end he said those remarks in sentences (and not just words that can be cut here and there and placed somewhere else with editing)

[@shan6405]

Wait which one is Pluma?

[@ni-kinotniki6010]

@@shan6405 colored hair green

[@ni-kinotniki6010]

oh wait not green, highlight brown dunoo what you call it XD

[@omatonia]

Please when was he eliminated?

[@ni-kinotniki6010]

@@omatonia team battle

[@Ak_0239]

So Cute🥰😍😘❤💕

[@asr227]

I like his rap but pluma really needs to frickin fix his attitude

[@lvl4]

Yea

[@taezin8460]

Who pluma

[@emsi6087]

what happened? (i don't understand the korean)

[@nana-ww8nj]

lmaoo he spoiled his part on ig and he had the audacity to be rude like.....

[@taezin8460]

im baby who pluma

[@user-db1mg2cj4d]

송민재는 집으로~

[@lucus2649]

아니 송민재ㅋㅋㅋ 말이안나오네 인성이 쫌 그렇네;;

[@ayadee4885]

Dont hate and judge him because of this evil editing. I hope mnet just stop creating drama to make the artist look bad. Mnet, please stop it already. You already ruined the image of a lot artists.....

[@byz.9202]

You may be right. It was shared a bit to make a premium for the program, but Pluma again took different behaviors. It may be a little rude, but I found it disrespectful. I hope the whole problem is actually due to the Mnet edit. And then Pluma is a good rapper I hope this video doesn't affect his future.

[@ayadee4885]

@@byz.9202 his team back him up already, do you think they will risk their name to clear up this whole thing for him if it's true? So that's mnet evil editing for sure.

[@byz.9202]

@@ayadee4885 You are right. maybe they wanted to create a sensation. I said already, it may have been made to make a premium. After this video, the rating has risen Mnet. But if he really did behave like that, it can't be denied that he was rude.

[@ayadee4885]

@@byz.9202 but artists don't deserve to be hated by people for mnet to get a high rating. I love the program so much, so they don't need to do such thing. Because at the end of the day, it will be the artists who will suffer with this media manipulation.

[@sharonoh9120]

yes there was probably evil editing involved, but in the end he did say those things with his own mouth. while he doesn’t deserve hate, he should have been more supportive and kind to his team members (especially as the oldest)

[@けん-d1b]

근데 솔직히 엠넷 악마의편집하는거 아는데 저렇게 그냥생각없이 이야기했을까? 그랬으면 그냥생각이 없는거긴한데 두번 나와봤는데 이건 어떤식으로든 당한거같은 개인적인 생각

[@stelladyaning]

please i dont get it, can someone explain whats wrong with pluma? i need english sub please:(

[@elmanaviasalsabela9565]

Hey, it's there

[@seokhoonlee8749]

하지만 플루마떨어졌죸ㅋ

[@danielsh8973]

I watched the show live and he seemed pissed at team AOMG

[@lmggg6859]

exactly!!!

[@astriddane]

What's goin on??

[@yourwear9059]

Did he spill the beat?

[@danielsh8973]

He just had a bad attitude and used foul languages to his teammates. He was also the eldest but brings bad influences. This made Jay Park uncomfortable

[@danielsh8973]

@@yourwear9059 yes

[@mayou7381]

*oh my godness....*

[@그래그렇지-q6f]

눈치없는건 본인이 깨달을때까지 주변에서 아무리 말해줘도 안고쳐짐... 내경험담임 대학생때 나보다 더 눈치없단 소리듣는애 보고 내가 저랬구나 싶어서 고쳐지더라

[@메리상노히즈지]

동감!😂자기 주변 사람들이 한사람 두사람 사라지고 나서 아차! 하기전에 주위의 말을 들을 겸손? 자기 재능에 도취되어 자만에 빠지면 아무 소리도 들리지 않음 아직 어린친구라 성격이 남아있는것은 당연한거죠

[@zzii_Oo]

? 좀 진짜 당황스러움 다현이한테 지금..? 아니 악편인가 뭐냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@minsuh_zz7]

송민재 ㅎㅎ 맘에 들지는 않네;;

[@LMK.12345]

플루마가 프로듀서는 부족한 래퍼 먼저 탈락 시켜야 된다고 했는데 플루마가 먼저 탈락해음 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@용관맥그리거-v8o]

송민재는 아직도 저렇게 살고있을까봐 무섭다 주변사람들에게 피해주지말고 제발 조용히 살길 말하는게 정말 듣기싫을정도로 재수없어요 그렇게 살면 안됩니다

[@Mineko_]

Oh... So here it is.

[@NurFitriRamadhanty]

왜저래 진짜

[@gladyschambilla216]

Mnet is wrong showing him that way. He was receiving all kind of mean messages he doesn't deserve. He's still a minor. Take that into consideration.

[@bluerose6287]

말하는거 보면 다현이 진짜 빡치겠노...

[@user2938-v6d]

플루마는 3이 더 나은 듯

[@DruviGovind02]

Are there any English comments

[@bronze_flower]

또 시작된건가

[@heysenbang319]

송민재 정말 ㅅㄱㅈ 없다..

[@sibaajsnqkz00199]

가만히있으면 반이라도 간다

[@davidkwak818]

죽빵 마렵네 저거를 친구끼리 장난이라 커버치는 애들은 뭔 생각이지? 눈치없으면 인싸된다는 그런건가?

[@twan5605]

Can somebody pls explain what happend??

[@gggg-gi7db]

플루마 욕 먹을만큼먹었다... 팬으로서 할말이...

[@김현준-j8t]

플루마는 인성이

[@LMK.12345]

플루마 똥폼 잡네

[@9706rs]

너무 욕하지 말아요..딱 봐도 스포땜에 엠넷이 송민재 욕먹게 하려고 한 것 같은데

[@9706rs]

물론 말을 안 좋게 한 건 저도 알죠 하지만 같은 말도 편집으로 분위기랑 주변 리액션을 바꾸면 훨씬 더 나쁘게 보인다는 거 아시잖아요 저는 이번에 엠넷이 애한테 너무 한 것 같네요

[@user-hd1jx3rx8i]

@@9706rs 엠넷이 묻으려고 ㅈㄴ 악편한거임 ㅋㅋ

[@jmis-i1y]

개쳐맞는다랑 정신병자가 방송에서 할말이 아니긴 하지

[@s.rmx35]

솔직히 겁나 친하면 님들도 친구들한테 저렇게 말하잖슴 왜케 욕함 ㄹㅇ

[@s.rmx35]

@@jmis-i1y 니들은 그런말 일상생활이잖슴 친구들한테 야 이새꺄 하면서 장난으로 다현아 잘가! 이러면서 장난친 거 가지고 그럼

[@스파이시어니언]

플루마 인성 개같네 진짜 ㅎㅎ

[@Banshee9710]

아직도 악편만보고 판단하는 새끼들 역겹다

[@용관맥그리거-v8o]

@@Banshee9710생각해봐라 저런말을 하는것 자체가 악편이아니라 인성이다 ㅉㅉ

[@조찬우-t9p]

초록머리 ㅈㄴ 비호감이네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@bombdotcomist]

송민재 매너가 좋아 보이지 않고 음원유출에 대해서 죄송스러운 마음이 전혀 없어보이는게 좀 싸가지없어보이긴한데... 와 악마의편집을 이렇게 까지 하야되냐 엠넷쓰레기 놈들아 고등학생인데 참 에휴

[@fiorella2748]

a casa

[@정지영-x1d]

거만하게 앉아서 목숨 걸고 하는 일 일지도 모르는 음악에 위로는 못해줄 망정 "수고했어ㅋㅋ" 이러고 유쾌한 농담 한 듯이 쪼개는거 진짜 개 싫음 웨모팀은 집으로~ 이거 계속 하는것도 처음 할때 박재범 표정 찡그린거 봄? 박재범이 송민재 멘토고 창모가 박재범이랑 친한 사이인데 상황 난처해져서 인상 찡그리고 진짜 플루마는 음악으로 다신 안 기어나왔으면 좋겠다;;

[@정지영-x1d]

그러면서 인스타 라이브때 울고불고 그 ㅈㄹ하는것도 맘에 안들었음

[@LMK.12345]

송민제 싸이코?

[@주성호-t3i]

진짜 ㄹㅇ 예의도 없고ㅉㅉ 하 진짜 짜증나네 송민재.....

[@deysiromero7503]

Subtitle please

[@user-do1kw4vt5h]

부족한애들 까고보는 인성봐라 ㅋㅋ 팀인디

[@wmwntk]

송문재집으로가

[@Shawn-xl7ew]

갑자기 ㅈㄴ패고싶어지네

[@angg9031]

왜그래 3에서는 괜찮았잖아

[@cha5686]

송민재 진짜 나쁘네

[@자몽-o3y]

고등래퍼는 악마의 편집으로 유명한데 또 속았네

[@jasonha1229]

이것도 악의의 편집인가 누가 맞다고 좀

[@jasonha1229]

@@수줍-z4x 휴

[@jasonha1229]

@@수줍-z4x ㄹㅇㅋㅋ

[@하나1-o5s]

ㄹㅇ 송민재 왜저럼..

[@grrr1555]

저때 스포걸리지도 않았는데 편집을 저딴식으로 하냐

[@ian-v1o]

걸린거잖아 ; 디씨에 ;;

[@grrr1555]

@@ian-v1o 저 장면은 걸리기 전날이고

[@woo6315]

Mnet really wanna destroy pluma 😂

[@TV-ew1ne]

민재는 엄청난 욕을 다현이에게했다 너는진짜 세상에서 재일안좋은래퍼야 네마음속에너를 제일 안좋은래퍼로 알아둘게 라이브 했던데 우는첫오지더라 요즘그런거안통해 사람들이 채팅으로 경려 해주던데 어이가없어서 너가 어디가 좋다고 경려를하냐 하 진짜너는 랩을하지마라 다현이보다 못하는게

[@s.rmx35]

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