[EN] OG vs NIP - The International 2019 Group Stage

[@SboxeRNo2]

"Is there any hero that stands out against mirana ogre lion" "Jugg" OG : picks Io

[@emb.997]

This has got to be the best casting I've seen. Love the confusion. Love the honesty that the casters dont know a lick of OG's plan. So entertaining!

[@gabrielnunes2816]

to me it almost looks like a movie

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

When your my mmr the castors are kinda just friends you watch which cos honestly my game understanding is equal to theirs so sometimes they know something I dont sometimes its the opposite, I for one am very good at saying if someone will tp out or die trying.

[@Vidrigsson]

​@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 dude you are not as good as someone Who placed 5th at TI6

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@Vidrigsson The casters placed 5. at TI6?

[@Vidrigsson]

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 only one of them. Kyle. He played at three TI:s and placed 5 at TI 6.

[@lycamacabenta9434]

And it all starts here the unstoppable , undefeated , the Legendary "IO Carry" 😄😄😄😄

[@RealRangerix]

Its where one of legend story start ed

[@DocJN]

with the more than 80% winrate on that IO so why not

[@orecues9360]

@@DocJN it would be 100% if secret did not try to copy it

[@castleclash7663]

@@orecues9360 agreed

[@trihermawan9553]

​@@orecues9360 team secret won that game btw

[@Aciel_Yu]

Not gonna lie. These were very enjoyable games with good casting. All of them Kyle, BSJ, and Grand didnt know what the fuck was going on with that IO strat either, but rather than trying to explain the phenomenon of the IO, they looked at the OG's strat and explained it in that perspective. Super enjoyable casting and games, very engaging too.

[@GlassOnion23]

Yeah, this trio is a bunch of amazing casters. Fantastic, hilarious personalities and very high level of Dota knowledge. It probably will never happen but I'd love for them to cast the main event of TI together next year.

[@vanixiii5657]

@@GlassOnion23 OOF now there's no chance of that happening ever...cause correct me if I'm wrong but isn't GrandGrant like a registered sex offender now???

[@chasse-nigb3r]

@@vanixiii5657 yeah you can thank feminism ,they always ruin everything ...

[@BentKneefan]

@@vanixiii5657 I don't think he was ever arrested or even charged, he just resigned.

[@melonseiiLOVE]

⁠​⁠@@chasse-nigb3rI don’t think feminism pushed him into drugging and raping a woman, he did that on his own. The other victims coming forward is also his own consequences. I can say with all that has happened and all the hindsight and truth coming out, I’m glad that PoS is gone. He lost the court case, so yes, he is a registered sex offender. On top of his substance abuse being registered.

[@Dragon4eva]

OG: picks 5 support heroes on the way to winning TI, Meanwhile in my pubs: hard support Spectre.

[@marcusvogtpoulsen9469]

Hard support pudge too

[@Okjade_gg]

Now OG played no carry vs NIP lol

[@eeeeeedrieee]

@@Okjade_gg Manager: our next match is with NIP Ceb: Expirment tiiiiiimeee!

[@the7thresponse684]

@@Okjade_gg what match m8?

[@micomaster10]

I actually had a spectre 5 the other night on my team and we won 😂

[@TransTess]

I come back to this video every so often just to enjoy the casters confusion. "Would anyone play the IO other than Jerax?"

[@saturated3821]

Same. Just following OG's drafting is top tier entertainment. Even TI8 - Treant? Axe? Topson's heroes, etc, they always get a reaction.

[@swindonbadger7543]

12:21 wth (best bit?)

[@janssensingco4994]

Yaa.

[@Jupex]

Yep :D

[@LanceBreanainnGailYChuca]

@@swindonbadger7543 ).mm. Mk mm.lm..mmkmkmkmkl ml mpm..mkk...... ml lm.

[@98seko]

1:59:15 watch as ana relocates to a T3 to clear the wave and use teleport back while elder titan tp's back to base to to deliver an item to wisp and be back with the team with full mana within seconds the coordination is on point

[@jamescameron3406]

19:10, respect to the casters..."Let's not pretend we have any idea [what OG are going to do]".

[@veggstah]

Gonna miss this casting combo during TI 10.. I love the small talk inbetween fights and the theorycrafting etc. Always been a big fan of Kyle, the scene needs someone like him.

[@blue5peed]

Man dota is amazing what did I just watch

[@Forkinpikey]

You just saw a new color my man

[@nxvh9062]

@@Forkinpikey new colour of ass whooping lmao

[@walterlumbre848]

It doesn't follow

[@himurakenshin7758]

When meme was born, nobody really expect io carry was a thing until this game and how ana playing that hero was absolutely perfect 6-0 on io in this TI9 as a carry, that just sick stuff .. OG was just on different level in this TI than anybody else, and just untouchable. Period

[@Heimrih]

When u bring funny 4k strats with 10k mentality and skills. Too much to handle

[@ExzcellionGamma]

Also 19-1 in the last 20 games before game 4. Ana Io, man.

[@darudemarc6114]

Og are basically playing with the principle of friendship and togetherness. They fight together kill together die together win together, nothing else

[@nicosilberpfeil104]

Win together, lose together, slay together, slay together, slay together!

[@pieroluque6979]

@@nicosilberpfeil104 slay together, slay together.

[@DuckyVanya]

@@nicosilberpfeil104 EH

[@hanbeitakenakasama7735]

@@nicosilberpfeil104 Don't forget, SLAY TOGETHER!

[@elpopol3523]

@@nicosilberpfeil104 I think ceb said Slay Together, Slain Together, Stay Together (3x)

[@saturated3821]

"They do need honestly like, the absolute, be all end all win condition on OG, like they need this ana hero that 1v5s... etc..." OG: proceeds to last pick Io

[@filips9738]

IDK why so much talent has a problem with accepting OG as a tier 1 team.

[@marcino457]

@@filips9738 It's because they've been underperforming this season, relatively to their perfromance at the previous TI. So far they've proven them wrong though

[@rykom1ke665]

​@@filips9738 They didn't look Tier 1 because their results in the 5 DPC majors this year were: Didn't Qualify Didn't Qualify Didn't Qualify 5-6th 7-8th Although, they were without Ana most of the year. Looks like they timed this hot streak perfectly for TI9! So great to watch

[@filips9738]

@@rykom1ke665 They don't look like a T1 team but they are. They won a TI with this squad. The only T1 teams that actually look like it are Secret and Vici ATM

[@filips9738]

@@leeyin8937 I stopped reading after you said winning Ti doesn't mean anything in Dota. You're braindead

[@freddiemercury1851]

I will never get bored watching these matches over and over and over again. The brilliance of OG as a team reflects combined and supportive intelligence of these guys, that too with 'calculated' perfection. #TeamOG #OGDota #Dota2

[@xavierazad]

Same. And it's just for OG, they are the only team you can watch over and over and can't help but laugh at how easy it seems for them.

[@vanixiii5657]

I watch for jerax ;-; thank you the savior of og we'll miss you but wish you the best

[@SFCDUBOIS]

#DreamOG

[@RossOfRoni]

The real companion cube was the friends OG made along the way.

[@orecues9360]

Truly showing the power of friendship..

[@notlineeydupppz43]

big oof

[@paquitolaquihonjr4368]

o

[@SlyFalcosCYBER]

34:37 Caster: IO was a misclicked Ana: Hold My Trophy

[@royscreamed]

Maling Sendal ana: hold my aegis

[@dev-charmer]

hold my lvl 15 balls

[@Yachemie]

Thanks for no "commercial break" and have a talk through the pause :-)

[@Especti1]

No sponsors, no need for an ad break. ^^

[@sammg95]

@@Especti1 usually they just have dead air for the time in between. Love the chat style break like this

[@juliahenriques210]

OG is the Scarlett of DotA. Win or lose, entertainment is assured.

[@pieroluque6979]

My queen scatlett, og is the millenials navi.

[@yvangogh6655]

Absolutely Perfect! so creative with these drafts. OG - original geniuses

[@RossOfRoni]

You are playing against OG. You do not ban Io because balls. They pick Io core. You lose. You are playing against OG again. You do not ban Io core because you can counter it. They pick Io core. You lose. GG

[@brickjames5020]

Got a copypasta wrong cmon bruh

[@RossOfRoni]

@@brickjames5020 there is no copypasta only zuul

[@keshavy1189]

Rtz still farming

[@banishedbr]

@@keshavy1189 h3u3hu3u3hu my joke 5 min after OG won EG u3hu3hu3h3u

[@bromeethere]

I was so confused, yet so inspired

[@petaludas88]

iospired

[@samokanka469]

Wispiration 😜

[@buzda4249]

Pls don't be inspired to play it in pubs now

[@Occone10413]

OG kept feeding them supports and runes for most of the game: OMG they're in so much trouble! Ana and Topson 20 minutes later: Hold our balls.

[@OriginalPuro]

Dota is awesome, I feel we're back to 2009-2010 when it was all about optimization and creativity, albeit the hero pool is larger now and it seem more balanced over-all.

[@zinpin2210]

Re-watching the first appearance of pos1 'IO' after hearing Ana's retirement. Legend.

[@Cheesyxable]

Okay, this was glorious.

[@ActionAlligator]

Now THIS is epic

[@alexjosephrivera218]

"It is TI, you don't miss-click" Alliance Insania: Hold my mouse

[@Mei-vb2gd]

Dislike

[@chetanaik]

Technically he didn't, he just ran out of time.

[@joshm3915]

He didn't miss-clicked. He ran out of time.

[@TheStoso2]

misclick*

[@acekiannovelasco6418]

it is misclick

[@aminrosli9744]

12:14 IO surprise reaction!

[@diversa23]

These trio casters makes the match very entertaining tho lol, all 3 of them share ideas and paired it with memes and were good to go

[@gooddogreallygooddog6157]

reggae Carrot they should cast much more often together. Best combination of talent period.

[@vanixiii5657]

@@gooddogreallygooddog6157 they aren't gonna cast together anymore...

[@GiantOfTheNorth]

Grant: "Dude I'm ready" The last words spoken before this strat literally wipes the floor at TI.

[@3kscrub]

"let's not pretend we have any idea" whoever that is knows what he is saying

[@tyronelau82]

First game start 14:59 Second game draft 1:15:14 Second game start 1:30:00

[@joelcaceres775]

probably the reason behind ana's absence in OG is to discover the ace hero that no one has ever thought of that he can get away with which is IO.

[@509megsy]

When I first saw this I thought OG ran out of time for the draft and randomly got IO. Imagine if that actually happened and they made it work as one of the greatest TI strategies ever :D

[@jamescunningham1844]

You know of any games like that with other heroes?

[@OArthurFeital]

pos 1 Io, coming to a pub near you

[@jewii3824]

Arthur Feital oh hell no 😂

[@zukacs]

its been in my pubs for quite a while on 3.5k

[@OArthurFeital]

@@zukacs FeelsBadMan

[@oyahmon1]

It only worked cause everyone played around protecting io in fights for 25 min till he got items. I can't even get my abaddon support to use aphotic shield.

[@xXOniJahXx]

@@oyahmon1 git gud

[@LeonardoAlves-vj8kl]

I love how the casters try to guess OG's plan and get every little thing wrong 😂

[@biggiewhite]

not everyone one of them knew it very fast before the game started when he said lvl15 has changed on io but without ags its nth so he actually knew it but he wasnt sure cuz its so weird to do this on ti (carry io) lol.

[@Antido0]

tbh these casters dont seem to play dota at all, they try to be smart but they just sound silly with their "explanations" just like the LD description towards io

[@ginnellamzon3068]

Yeah but what they're saying is legit in general. It's just that OG really is that good.

[@ExzcellionGamma]

What's great about this though is as the game progresses, one of them realized what the power spike was and soon waited accordingly. Lmao at a comment above, btw.

[@BatkoBrat]

32:40 The moment they begin to realize the level 15 Aghanims combo

[@ginnellamzon3068]

It was at this game that Saksa thought "I should play for OG" Lol

[@jiroi2293]

Saksa played out of his mind in these games as well. Maybe that’s why OG picked him

[@ameame32]

@@jiroi2293 Now look at saksa rn he played literally anything he wants and showed how much of a monster he is in pos 4

[@sekyusu]

And now he is a TI winner.

[@crazyiron9003]

​@@sekyusu no fuckin cares dumbass

[@kaitetsujin4349]

Casters: This is TI you don't misclick Insania: Are you challenging me?

[@kuyaaxl4766]

"They're gonna have a really hard time killing anybody on the side of NIP" Famous last words 😂😂😂

[@KagirinaiYonaka]

This is the start of IO hype bois...

[@wanaramusic]

34:44 this is TI never miss click Alliance : hold my beer

[@jeremygonzal8603]

Love how there was so much conversation and speculation on game 1 while drafting only for all three of them to be completely befuddled.

[@solidvoice3476]

Commentator: Why other players are not adapting this kind of strategy that OG does? OG: It's not the strategy, it's a matter of friendship and trust. Me: Just enjoy watching replays all OG TI8 and TI9 series and Truesigth with coffee at this Pandemic. Stay at home, stay safe! Ana IO is Unbetable carry...what's with IO at lvl 15? Please explain, Thanks.

[@subinsuresh365]

+75 hero damage

[@uta_pn]

IO's lvl 15 +75 spirit hero damage talent, paired with Agh's Scepter, essentially doubles the spirit damage and makes the spirits not go away on hit. on this patch, when it was a lvl 15 talent and not lvl 20, IO's mid-game damage output was insane

[@DKtrek21]

You'll see in this game how OG always wins in terms of gold efficiency and distribution. Look at their 3 cores, No item at minute 15-18 and then one teamfight later.. BOOm! top of the net worth. They're just so good at micro and macromanaging their resources.

[@johnnyperozo2987]

OG: The ultimate CHAD team. BOSS around with a pos 1 Io.

[@daspeir]

1:30:54 **clash at bot jungle about to start** meanwhile the casters just watching ana wisp hit the drums lmfao

[@cloudwalker679]

*clash at bot* Casters: I sleep. *Ana hitting drum* Casters: Real shit.

[@GeorgKevinPaquet]

Isn't it the observer's fault?

[@WilliamDraco]

@@GeorgKevinPaquet Because these were group stage, one of the casters *is* the observer in this case.

[@GeorgKevinPaquet]

@@WilliamDraco oh, okay. Thanks for the info!

[@rafaelmaccari8045]

''IO was a missclick '' LMAO

[@creamzen4107]

10:15 Casters: right now og certainly need some damage Ana: ok

[@pitchblack2744]

40:32 that pun flew past their heads.

[@conan6250]

cant stop watching ana's io over and over again

[@mjeleven1537]

lol their reaction when og pick IO was priceless.

[@kyaasu7848]

When Ana IO was a "misclicked" to first ban IO 😂

[@sekolife-tampablogger9545]

Hi

[@zxzxzx4661]

@@sekolife-tampablogger9545 simp

[@xavianth9262]

Simp

[@pureheebo]

Game 2: 1:15:12

[@mongobaracuda]

And a legend was born.

[@MrRavellon]

1:08:12 that look of disappointed suspicion when he realises neither of his co-casters know who Hannibal is... bruh momento

[@jtb7429]

37:24 "I believe this Strat is Balls to the face strat".lol

[@Ilposeidonll]

Pos 1 IO mid with the red tomato at level 15. Scary asf. o _o;

[@ajandmardalizad5981]

Jerax: I don't want to play anymore Ceb: What was the name of that godlike pos 4 mirana?

[@johannndsouza]

pretty sure saska cant hold a candle to jerax from what i have seen.

[@chrome450]

@@johannndsouza saksa is good pos4 player. they just have the different playstyle with jerax.

[@alparius2]

This was a match we will be coming back to.

[@ridji3]

Yes we are. Years later I'm here

[@alparius2]

​@@ridji3thanks for the rewatch reminder bro

[@ridji3]

@@alparius2 np bro. It's kinda beetersweet cause u know nothing will feel like watching this og team. Kyle and Grant and dota as a game was special then

[@willwellbeing925]

1 day before t13 bois

[@julianossa3578]

41:20 Slark pings that they have vision of him and batrider smokes in the vision without dewarding...

[@manfrombritain6816]

group stage doesnt have the hype of main stage but it does have its own fun quality. reminds me of the old days in The Summit with couch casts

[@kaung97htet]

Think this is the moment when saksa decided he want to play for OG

[@rizqidss]

So this is where memes turned out to be reality

[@sieghart7889]

The way OG plays is like one person controlling 5 heroes where they all have the same intentions. others usually back off if one teammate dies but OG just runs in for a handicap match trusting the dead guy to buyback if necessary.

[@sieghart7889]

@O K of cos they are aware of their buyback status. but whether the player chooses to buyback or not is the trust issue i'm referring to. if u watch true sight, even OG does not interfere with each other's decision making. Ana chose to hold his buyback in game 1 which threw the game. although jerax does make several big calls during games as seen in true sight. its still down to trust whether the teammates listen and follow.

[@Yao686]

34:37 isn't it so satisfying to hear that caster make fun about OG's strategy with the IO pick and when it worked all he can do is take back what he said? 🤣

[@zescapegoat]

BSJ on point with his casting here

[@sakthlaunda2323]

The notorious CARRY IO ana game... Even casters are confused... They could never see it coming...

[@asdfasdf-xf9ve]

34:49 It's TI you don't misclick Insania: Prepare to be surprised

[@raspace3546]

So saksa is one of the first that feels OG deathball strategy

[@Casual-Netizen]

26:10 They finally got it right. Haha Took them long enough 🤣

[@hanbeitakenakasama7735]

Everyone took that long.

[@asmerX100]

they only figured it out after ana queued scepter

[@nathanjoachim8382]

Does anyone notice that OG went pos 5,4,3,2,1 from left to right?

[@BoxBishop]

42:20, ult was fine. keep watching.

[@amantyagi8298]

is there anyone else or just me watching this brilliant innovation by OG . FROM 2024

[@Outme-Dota2]

im always here too dude, this game is always amazing to watch

[@shubham3452]

The drafting session is so interesting man!

[@s2pd844]

We will miss you ana 😥

[@kimjohnedroso1676]

I can get enough of the confusion 😂😂 12:21

[@ashwindeshpande4834]

This game proved that DOTA is the best competitive e-sport

[@cpilfold420]

Kinda sucks that grant got cancelled. He's really turned his life around. Completely different human than he was back when this happened.

[@guitarsoupify]

what he did sucks worse for his victims

[@neobarasi5721]

The strat that wins TI9

[@ljdoff]

48:36 thats the definition of shots fired.

[@fredtotherick]

What's the game that must not be named?

[@jpnnstrps]

League World finals , the entire length had less (champions) picked than one day of ti

[@smoothknyte]

As someone who just watches dota, it feels like the word "meta" means "doing sht that won't get you reported" rather than encouraging a more open mind when playing the game. Is that a correct way of looking at it? It just feels like a "THIS IS HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY THE HERO!" mindset more.

[@rockon3470]

in my personal opinion, the word meta means really strong line up that excels in the current patch, that has been figured out or used by most of the pros. Just because pros dont use it doesnt mean you'll get reported. Also, pros do try builds at pub. Its a TI, the most important tournament of their career. If they found a really good build on a hero/line up, they'll definetly use it regardless of its meta or not. Every competitive games has meta if im not mistaken, so just because something is meta, doesnt mean you should play the meta. You are free to play however you want, its the player who decide; how good is the build might be, and how important is the current match for the player themselves

[@smoothknyte]

@@rockon3470 Fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up!

[@jaysonaningalan7559]

2023 and im still amazed how OG dominate with IO carry 😂

[@alatus2844]

40:31-40:33 "The ball went a little too deep there"

[@Vandalgia]

The most amazing thing about OG's lineup is that it isn't even strong, lmao. A direct fight would just simply decimate OG, but they fight smart; they kite NiP to death. OG just simply outplayed NiP with right decision making every time and an outright superior map control.

[@faithful451]

Why is the volume so low on this video almost impossible to hear anyone except Grant

[@daemon119]

James T that’s just Grant

[@highrofellos6721]

"They need the absolute end all be all carry for OG." Casters may I introduce you to that exact entity. The Carry Io!

[@PengxueYG]

came back to watch this still unbelievable to see it happen

[@ridji3]

Same

[@elmosavola7633]

ohh my. Legendary to watch this first time picking IO at this TI.. :D

[@krisostomoyabarrera2255]

i love how confused they were at the first draft

[@GlassOnion23]

They were confused all the way to the start of the mid-game lol. It wasn't until BSJ pointed out in minute 26 that IO has queued Aghs and Kyle realized ana will take IO's lvl 15 +75 spirit damage that they finally started to understand how carry IO can even work. I love it.

[@Animemoviesmore]

"This is TI, you don't misclick" Meanwhile in Alliance game.....

[@gooddogreallygooddog6157]

Cant get enough of ti9 OG

[@carlangeldemon]

Who came here because of Ana Io Carry?

[@stackbabber5858]

pretty sure everyone lol

[@asmerX100]

after being humiliated twice by carry IO...PPD decided to forfeit TI9

[@itsgoodiewoodie]

I would love to watch caster reactions from china, russia etc with english subtitles about the io carry

[@abloblo2]

34:50 Caster : you don't misclick in ti Alliance : hold my beer

[@holydemonleigh]

oohh 33 and saksa was from NIP and now played in the side of OG

[@y_e_e_t_e_d_9876]

12:23 "whoah what the ...."

[@KennyCris]

57:11 next chat wheel thing in 2o20

[@TheNealzarka]

im from the future and i bring bad news on TI10

[@ArtemArlychenkov]

I thought that it would be cool chatweel as well, but unfortunately no :/

[@nnyds3338]

I keep coming back to this just for the sole moment when the casters are focused on Ana's Io just drumming as they nearly missed the clash that was happening 😅

[@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623]

i would love tp be the fly in the wall listening to NIP and casters making sense of the last pick io and og's entire draft.

[@392redienhcs]

"Are we getting meta'd? Should we say hi to youtube now?"

[@pieroluque6979]

This is the moment when OG won TI.