Enchroma Long Term Review

[@coreywyerart8614]

Hey guys. Enchroma changed their affiliate program and it has regrettably disabled the discount code. I still believe that the glasses are worth trying out. Remember there is always a 60 day return policy!

[@yoops66]

13:57 Enchroma should then forbid returning the glasses erlier than two weeks or one month or so after the purchase. 😉 For example, they pay back the postage fee of the return, or half of it or whatever, only if it is returned after that delay. This would pass a strong message.

[@abdooman1556]

They're scaming people, kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqHSk5xui82KrdE they stopped it when they realized they were being investigated. you probably have been scammed and fooled

[@HVM_fi]

Have you seen MegaLag's two part video of classes, what you think about them?

[@tiloalo]

Still pushing this scam around?

[@gailmeredith8586]

Thank you for your explanation. I am not colorblind but I love watching the reactions. I was wondering about how things went long term.

[@gmcblows]

Thank you for making this video. My wife has been pushing me to try a pair for years. This is the first review that has felt genuine. I just ordered a pair of the Eton's. I really hope it helps me see the peppers and tomatoes that are starting to turn ripe in our gardens. I usually miss about 85 percent of them and someone else has to go back through and re-pick.

[@chrisbodum3621]

How did it go ?

[@themitchellbrothers]

Yes how did it go?

[@danl4238]

Thank you so much for this truly thoughtful analysis. Extremely helpful and appreciated.

[@cursinguser9702]

As a designer I’ve considered getting indoor glasses and seeing if it helped out. Thanks for the very sensible breakdown.

[@pewlivepie5006]

How do you see more shades? Don't the glasses CUT out frequencies?

[@Dad_Brad]

5:10 I relate totally as a red-green color deficient guy. I wear outdoor Pilestones and they seem to work as good as enchromas. Either way, when I take off my colorblind glasses, it’s like suddenly I’m seeing through a yellow-green night vision goggle. Obviously not literally that monochromatic but it is still just as shocking to take them off as it is to lit them on.

[@coreywyerart8614]

Yeah I have the same reaction when I remove the glasses. It’s quite shocking to be reminded how limited our vision is.

[@tiloalo]

Just your brain that deforms the vision in one direction, and then has to revert...

[@Dad_Brad]

@@tiloalo Everytime I wear the glasses and then take them off I can appreciate why people with red green colored deficiency were genetically selected to to hunt, spot danger and find food instead of cooking and determining which flowers are pink.

[@edwardodower1027]

Your final thought insight re: the reactions of first-time user who might receive these as a gift is unexpectedly AND exceptionally wise and well-stated! New gift glasses may have or create unintended expectations or reactions on the giver or recipient. Great comment!!

[@TheAirplaneDriver]

Excellent review! I completely agree. I am strong protan per the Enchroma on line tests. Lots of red deficiency, some green. I finally pulled the trigger and bought a pair of Enchroma sun glasses. I was pleased with the effect, but it wasn’t an OMG moment. The only crying I did was when I paid the credit card bill. 😉. I was on the fence as to whether I should keep them or not. Finally, I decided to keep them principally because they are excellent sunglasses. Between the intrinsic quality of the lenses and the subtle, yet very noticeable, shift in color perception, I felt they were a good value and worth keeping. I’ve had them several months now and they are my favorite shades. The world definitely looks brighter and more vibrant. Your analysis of how they change your perception of color is spot on. Well done.

[@jeffreymorgan8687]

So I had an unexpected experience when I tried my glasses and I returned them. First, I believe I’m a strong protan. I don’t know how much of a difference that makes. I only tried them while driving for about 3 weeks. They made the colors of my signals on the dashboard disappear. So like I’d hear my turn signal but could no longer see the light blinking. And the changes other wise were very subtle but otherwise it was a bit underwhelming and yellows and bright green are my favorite colors because they are very bright and it seemed to make them less vibrant. I would have kept them for longer to try out for the full 60 days but I was afraid I’d loose them, bent them or brake them and wouldn’t get a refund. But I do like to game and watch anime. Should I try them again?

[@coreywyerart8614]

Honestly your experience sounds really unusual. I would suggest relaying your experience to Enchroma support people. It could be that you had the wrong glasses. Stuff ‘disappearing’ sounds like the glasses are conflicting with your vision. Like those light frequencies become out of phase or something. It could be a common experience, I’ve just never heard of it happening.

[@thatguitarguy99]

This is such an in depth video. Thank you!

[@sugarcube700]

Can you explaine how you can see vivid colors through dark sunglasses lenses? And can you wear the indoor glasses outside?

[@andeh37]

I'm only a Mild Deutan and I'm not sure if these would be worth it based on the cost. How severe was your initial test result?

[@coreywyerart8614]

I’m a strong protan, I had to get the SP lenses which have a red tint. The way I understand it is that people with milder deficiencies tend to see better results because you have more to work with anatomically.

[@bpark10001]

How do you test out on the Enchroma test? I note you are using the CX1 indoor glass (for protans). If you are mild (or maybe moderate) protan, you may have better results with CX1-DT indoor glass. It is slightly less tinted & has much less reflection from the lens (works better at night).

[@coreywyerart8614]

Good tip! I test as a "Strong Protan" so the sunglass lenses I have are the CX3-SP and they're great. You have to get past the initial red tint, but I find the time that I notice it is getting less and less with each wear. It's amazing how quickly you can adapt. I wasn't aware that deutan lenses would be useful for a Protan. I may have to look into that. I mentioned that the indoor glasses are subtle, but that's not to say that they aren't accurate, and also I certainly DO have 'wow moments' with them. Especially with bright orange colours. Maybe they just "feel" more subtle because the SP lenses are so extreme by comparison..

[@bpark10001]

​@@coreywyerart8614 Since you are strong protan, you might want to test out another option. First, most likely the CX1-DT will NOT work well. Strong protan is the most challenging type of red-green colorblindness to "correct". The more light the lens blocks, the more correction you can get. You might want to try the CX2-DT lens for indoor use (such as in computer screens), which is intermediate between sunglass & indoor glass. It is only available through Enchroma retailers. Regarding the "red tint": the reason you see it is because strong protans actually lose out on the red end of the spectrum (not just losing the color, but losing sensitivity to light.) If you are curious, get this: www.amazon.com/ENVISION-Quantitative-Analysis-Spectroscope/dp/B0027UNRHY for $12 & look through it at white diffuse surface (such as white siding on house) illuminated with sunlight (do not look into the sun!) You will see a rainbow over a scale. The red band (may not look red for protan, but it will be bright) will fade to black just before 675nm for someone with normal color, or deutan, vision, & will fade to black at a lower number for protan vision). The SP lens is identical to to the non-SP lens except for having an abnormally low attenuation in the red end of the spectrum. This "stretches" the eye's sensitivity in the red, which you are missing out on. So all that red you see with the glasses is real! If you look through the spectroscope with the glasses on, you will see the spectral "notches" in the rainbow.

[@coreywyerart8614]

@@bpark10001 Holy cow! Those Reds are real!? I was pretty convinced that it was being augmented by the tint in some way. That's crazy! Like I mentioned in the video, red cars are insane. And when I look at them and switch between glasses on or off, the difference is remarkable. Like it goes from a dark muddy maroon, possibly even indistinguishable colour-wise, to a vibrant, rich, fire engine red! And then if I look around I can see really nuanced differences in hue and tone between all of the other red cars. I'm curious, if my receptors are incapable of discerning that part of the spectrum, what is the system within the lens that restores that portion. I kind of grasp the concept of the notch filtering of confused frequencies. That makes sense, but how can a lens augment the light in a way that a deficient receptor can now receive it? I seems like you have studied this at great length. Can I ask what your background is? Thanks for taking the time, I'm really interested in this subject and I appreciate your input!

[@bpark10001]

​@@coreywyerart8614 My background is engineering, just about all fields, especially optical, electrical, & mechanical. I became interested in Enchroma in 2015 when I read about it on optician's site (Optiboard). I had been trolling that & other sites because I was having trouble getting Rx eyeglasses to "work". When I saw Enchroma, my reaction was "either this is something really awesome, or the best snake oil that I have seen!" I looked at the patent. It seemed so simple in principle! I decided to "partake of some of the snake oil" & bought non-Rx sunglass & experimented with it. I was impressed. At the time, I was doing STEM science displays for schools & trade shows. I attended "awesome-con", show featuring "cosplay" & comic book characters. I told people I had a magic elixir for colorblindness. Disbelievers tried the glasses & FREAKED OUT! I decided to get sunglass in my Rx. At the same time, I got new clear glasses. Because of the trouble I was having with Rx, I ordered $600 "digital free-form progressive lenses" (do you know what progressive lenses are?) & at the same time, sent Rx order to Enchroma. I could see with the $600 lenses, but couldn't stand the eyestrain. 2 months later, the Enchroma Rx glasses came. There was a world of difference, no eyestrain! Long story short, to get 'clear' glasses with the same lens curve, I bought the indoor Enchroma lenses, & have been using them since. The way the glasses work is so simple (but the implementation details are complex). The eye cone's response curve (sensitivity versus wavelength) is a rounded curve with sloped sides (look on Enchroma site for diagram of shape). The spectral shape of most colors seen is also rounded. If you look at one of the sloped sides, shifting the curve up & down is equivalent to shifting it left-right. "Colorblindness" happens when 2 of the cone's responses overlap too much. Even in the "normal" eye, the overlap between the "green & "red" cone is high (the "red" cone is really a "yellowish green" cone). The Enchroma filter lets a lot of red light through, while attenuating yellow. This effectively "pushes" the "red" cone's response further into the red, & "pushes" the green side of the red's cone response away from the green cone. The green cone is pushed toward the blue (there is a large gap there). Enchroma can't "create light", but it can effectively do so visually by attenuating everywhere EXCEPT where you want to "create" light. So all colors are attenuated more than the red, effectively brightening red. The reason that this is so effective is the dynamic range of the eye. From night time to direct sunlight is ratio of over 1 million to one. Ratio of direct sunlight to skylight is about 100:1. In normal eye, the sensitivity to red & blue is 1/10th the sensitivity to green. Enchroma sunglass is about 14% (1/7th) transmitting, but in the red, almost 100% transmitting. So the red is "boosted" by 7X. So the red sensitivity is extended along the sloping line where ordinarily it would be 7X down. The indoor glass can't "throw away" as much light as the sunglass, so the "correction" effect is less. You can do experiment to explore this. Heat a piece of steel in a fire (you can use paper clip straightened in gas stove fire). Heat it until you can just see its dim incandescence in the red, or you can look at a dying embers of wood fire. One of your friends (not colorblind) will be able to see the glow at a lower temperature than you can, because their "red" cone is "farther out" than yours. So in your world, "infra-red" starts "sooner" than those who are not protans. For tritans (much rarer form of colorblindness), the blue end of their spectrum is "clipped".

[@coreywyerart8614]

@@bpark10001 ohhh that makes perfect sense. I studied Audio Engineering, so putting it through the lens of sound waves, I completely get it now. Essentially, say I had a deficiency of about 5dB in hearing around the 1k part of the spectrum. I suppose if you attenuate all other frequencies by 5dB, you would have a much clearer understanding of the total frequency range, it would just be quieter across the board, but more balanced across the spectrum. I have a much clearer understanding of how the lenses work. Thank you so much! Man, the dynamic range of the eye is amazing!

[@shellyk1371]

I can’t thank you enough for your analysis and your discount code. I just placed an order for my son's glasses. I was worried he wouldn't be able to explain to me in depth how they truly worked since he's still quite young. Now I know what to expect. Thank you Corey.

[@yusvariharzairawan3525]

4:04 Hi i about to but enchroma indoor glasses to pass ichihara colour blind test, but you say no, can you talk more about ichihara and indoor glasses?

[@dustinbrown2564]

Would you recommend them for a child? I have a 6 year old.

[@IAMJORDI0117]

Would this work well for movie watching the indoor ones? I’m gonna get the outside ones first but if the outside one’s really work then I’m gonna get indoor ones as well. They are on sale right now. I’ve been watching a lot of reviews I have a strong deutan colorblind so it may take a while for them to affect me more so than people with mild colorblindness, according to enchroma I really want to be able to see colors as they are meant to be seen

[@DATo_DATonian]

HiJordi, I have normal vision, but if I had the opportunity to experience what the people in these videos experience I would jump at the chance. In a strange way I actually envy you because you have the opportunity to have a beautiful life changing experience that is denied to people like me who have alway been able to see colors. There is something I heard many years ago which has stayed with me ... "Before you can experience the miracle of a sunrise you must stand awhile in the darkness." I, and people like me who have normal vision have never stood in the darkness. We take the gift we have been given for granted. I do not believe one can put a price on experiencing a sunrise or sunset for the first time - going from that realm of darkness to that miracle of light and color. I wish your experience to be a success from the bottom of my heart.

[@IAMJORDI0117]

@@DATo_DATonian hell yeah you’re right the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen was a sunset on the beach with my outdoor enchroma glasses and I just got the indoor ones not too long ago as a gift from my mom

[@DATo_DATonian]

@@IAMJORDI0117 I'm so glad to hear that they worked for you. 😀

[@jpwein88]

How often do you have to use them?

[@jamesvrooman]

Why do they have to be sunglasses? Wouldnt that darken the colors? How do you feel about just using indoor glasses?

[@apelsin.bananovich]

Amazing and very helpful video! Thank you!

[@S.h-comma.to.the.top-Dynasty]

Thanks for the video. Just thought I would kindly let you know that your video has a sharp red tint on it for some reason. Everything looks really warm. Just thought I would let you know.

[@maksudazad5944]

Price sir

[@cliffirddelbridge2810]

Excellent reaction

[@jordanparker5949]

It's a scam. They don't work.

[@solarnaut]

BRILLIANT ! 15:31 "There's a Beauty to the World that You're Not Seeing !" uuummmmm . . . Yup ... GUILTY ! B-) 18:17 "So, just be super careful about your expectations... " I'm a junkie for the Encroma Highs . . . thx 4 healthy perspectives !

[@cookaerialphotography9143]

Great analysis. The best video that I watch about these glasses by far. I'm strong protan and my glasses will arrive in about 3 weeks due to placing my prescription in them. I dont expect a life altering experience initially, but I do expect an improvement long term.

[@solarnaut]

I confess to taking "guilty pleasure" in Encroma Sunset Sugar Rush videos as a reminder of 1 of 100+ SUPER POWERS that we humans tend to take for granted on the daily. This technology is, of course, meant to liberate an affliction, not so much for the rest of us to get off on sharing the joy of colors. Perhaps grandparents wanting to "feed" on their grand kids' Christmas joy is not the worst energy in the world !? Haaa. Corey's review seems VERY grounding and helpful. I hope your experience is wonderful, even if "we all" never get any sugar from it ! Cheers. B-)

[@BethePandaGames]

Any updates? I've been looking at these cause I am tried of my DPV videos having purple skies instead of blue when color correcting.

[@ttru]

I love your final thoughts. I'm looking into getting a pair of glasses for a friend. Of course, I didn't want to have high expectations knowing that these glasses aren't 100% perfect. But I appreciate how you talked about the kind of pressure the recipient would feel to put on an act and make it seem like they enjoy the moment that they wear the glasses for the first time. Not every Enchroma-wearer is gonna have an instant reaction, nor will they have vision that's on-par with "normal vision". The glasses are meant to be ean enhancer, not a cure. I hope I can make the experience for my friend a comfortable one.

[@chrisbodum3621]

Let us know if it all comes together and how it goes.

[@BethePandaGames]

Friends have a good reaction to them?

[@ttru]

@@BethePandaGames unfortunately, it won't work for him since he's blue/yellow colorblind. I'm hoping for a better future for colorblind glasses so that people like him can enjoy the beauty we see in this world.

[@BethePandaGames]

@@ttru unfortunate… thanks for the update tho 😄

[@chrisbodum3621]

Bloody awesome video. Answered most, if not all of my questions and gave some really useful advice on how to take this forward, particularly the expectation and pressure aspect. Thanks Corey.

[@coreywyerart8614]

Thank you! Glad I could help!

[@mikiohirata9627]

I can't really know what he experienced and how much of improvements he actually received by Enchroma glasses. But it sounds as though he did have dramatic shifts/ change in colors he sees but under playing his experiences. I am glad that he states He can't live without them now. I notice how particular video participant react is they notice a drastic perception of depth and clarity in what's coming into their eyes and act really shocked or tears starting to flow etc. etc. He/she doesn't know the particulars in changing colors since he/she didn't ever know the real colors before. That alone can shock your over all senses And those are the ones that you think they are acting due to peer pressure etc. I do however agree that onlookers really make the first time wearer from taking time to allow his/her own senses to adjust to this shift in perception of shade if not actual hues of color. Normal vision people will never understand or know what they see with or without these glasses therefore must not force how they should be viewing colors. Hold your horses and take a few deep breaths before you yell out "Cany you see this or that ?".

[@coreywyerart8614]

Well said. It’s been a while since I shot this, but I suspect that if I seemed to suggest that the extreme experience videos were people acting or overplaying their reaction, I was probably trying to suggest that there are people who actually do have such visceral reactions, which is fantastic. But people should temper their expectations in case they have a similar experience to me. I just want people to understand that if they don’t see an immediate change, it doesn’t mean that the glasses don’t work for them, and that they shouldn’t be disappinted.

[@youtoucan2312]

Thank you for this. Think I’ll definitely be giving them a try. Can’t stand the viral reaction videos.

[@HVM_fi]

What is with this, I experience some kind of Megalag...

[@pogmonke5217]

megalag is a liar

[@HVM_fi]

@@pogmonke5217 Nope.

[@pogmonke5217]

@@HVM_fi Yes, he calls these glasses a scam when they're proven to work and they do exactly what they say, so that's a lie.

[@HVM_fi]

@@pogmonke5217 Many peer reviewed studies show that classes don't work. Both studies that enchroma uses for ads, are not peer reviewed and both main authors are company's share holders. I think it's you who is liar here.

[@pogmonke5217]

@@HVM_fi Then why do thousands of colour blind people who have worn them say they work? Are they all liars?

[@ericsheffer2843]

Your affiliate discount doesn't work, but did two days ago. Their customer service is responsive but far from helpful. Pilestone looks pretty good.

[@loftiness_]

Thanks for this video! Best one out there. I appreciate the honesty over a sensationalized vlog type structure. Thanks mate!

[@coreywyerart8614]

Thank you!

[@QuicksilverSG]

Wouldn't it be possible to emulate the Enchroma color filter with a LUT applied to your computer screen? That way you could get the same improvement in color discrimination without needing to wear the glasses.

[@davidintel]

Your final thoughts were incredibly important, I'm glad you shared them.

[@IAMJORDI0117]

When I takeoff the indoor glasses, everything looks tinted a light green

[@roire]

im so happy for you. im so glad they help!

[@sandrareed2397]

I'm glad you made this video. It was important.

[@raghavbhutani]

Amazingly scripted review. Loved it :)

[@coreywyerart8614]

Haha. Thanks. No script though. I’m far too lazy for that much effort. I just turn on the camera and start blabbing. The trick is to edit out most of the umms and ahhhs. 😂

[@solarnaut]

@@coreywyerart8614 whatever editing software you use to sort of "swipe" between clips seems to work well at giving an oddly "natural" looking end/ beginning transition. Hardly the most important element of this brilliant content, but a nice touch! B-)