Enderal: Forgotten Stories||Rhalâta questline||Part 5 [2/2] "Dark Chambers of our Mind" all endings

[@kanogata2714]

"Help.. Help me. Please.. I-" That literally broke my heart

[@cosmos9688]

Can I just say Tharael's voice actor fucking killed it? It was a damn fine performance. The Father was great too. Praise all around.

[@Cabono31]

In the end Tharael becomes your unemployed friend who lives on your couch

[@dreadrath]

Love how the guy's pouring his heart out and the player's like "So, you gonna pay me or what bro." lol.

[@purebread6522]

100 years later, enderal historians will say that Tharel and you were 'roommates'.

[@jay-the-bat2984]

I suppose my reasoning for saving Thaeral came down to too many people dying in this storyline. I'll save one person, dammit. That'll be enough.

[@Kris.G]

What a great tragic character, one of the best if not the best in Enderal. I really cared for him and wanted to give him some happiness after all he endured.

[@ultrapotatomode3222]

Even without Tharael's storyline, this is my favorite dungeon in the game so far. You go in expecting some lost ones and you get lovecraftian nightmares. My jaw dropped during burned flesh's intro.

[@JoeKing69]

I gotta find out whose the writer(s) behind this masterpiece. They have serious talent and a great future ahead of them. This mod houses some of the best writing I've ever seen in a game.

[@julianperez9042]

@@JoeKing69 it's called Nicolas Lietzau if I remember correctly, he made a book in the same universe of Enderal, and it's gonna be released in November

[@JoeKing69]

@@julianperez9042 yeah I joined his Patreon a little while ago he’s releasing a book.

[@julianperez9042]

@@JoeKing69 I'm really hyped by the book, the hardcover one seems super cool with all the extras

[@Cybersijn]

Ah cool, I get to see the last segment of Tharael's. Will be playing this through myself at some point, just got other things to do and/or play atm. Hope you enjoyed my performances as this particular character in Enderal and thanks for the video posting.

[@nonoialbinoi]

I was pretty much obsessed with Rhalata questline for like a month and lost my last braincell during this heartbreaking event. So I think you did great. Thanks!

[@ambitalol123]

I fell in love with you! You did an amazing job

[@Cybersijn]

@@nonoialbinoi Thanks, I was glad to have been involved!

[@Cybersijn]

@@ambitalol123It helped that the character had fantastic writers and I also had direction on important scenes. Thanks and happy to have helped to give you such an experience.

[@JoeKing69]

You were one of my favorite characters in this masterpiece.

[@annylynne936]

Thanks for the walkthoug. I was very upset when he died in my run.

[@jespardalverak3099]

Me too... Cried a ton... I thought I did good... I should have spared qalian..

[@annylynne936]

Yeah :( It's always tricky when you kill tons of people during the gameplay and than suddenly killing this one guy really matters in the narrative.

[@jespardalverak3099]

I completely agree... :( A part of me wants to load that save BUT I literally regress back from level 46 to level 31 🤣🤣

[@annylynne936]

Lmao. I lost so much progress to save him. I couldn't help myself. I just want a good ending in which everyone is happy forever!

[@jespardalverak3099]

@@annylynne936 i wish i could do that 😭😭 But this is my fate 😭

[@DocCoolness]

Is it weird if i say tharael jumping off makes the most sense as the ending rather than you convincing him to live.

[@nonoialbinoi]

It's... debatable. Most importantly - we were given a choice for a reason. It's up to you to decide what "makes the most sense" for you and your character. I'm ok with all given choices tbh and i see how any of them can fit.

[@kanogata2714]

[SPOILER] . . . . . Well... As much as I love Tharael, even if we convince him to live he would still have died because of the cleansing so.... Yeah I think this is the best ending. And I actually find this scene tragically beautiful, now he's with Letho.

[@JoeKing69]

YES this is precisely what I thought to myself when i debated over redoing the questline. The ending where he lives robs you of much of the story's emotional weight. Really, I couldn't imagine things ending any other way for him.

[@eiertreter]

​@@kanogata2714 . If he lives till the ending at least he sees something better than living in the undercity and Rhalata for a while, gets a home, which I think he deserved. And gets a new funny haircut =)

[@apollodorus4759]

Narrative wise, absolutely the best choice. I got the suicide ending and felt the emotional hit. But watching scenes of him getting a second chance at life, just seems so out of place. The guy probably would have gone mad like Sister Pride. Also he dies regardless of what ending you have for all Enderal anyway.

[@dmytrykator]

Thank you for posting this. He killed himself in my walkthrough, and I was wondering what would happen if he didn't. Many thanks!

[@thanaistheriver367]

And there is an another option (not the 4th ending, but still interesting): if you have low affinity with Rhalata, Father would sway Tharael to his side. Nothing special would happen, however, exept new dialogue. Thank you again! Videos were very helpful.

[@nonoialbinoi]

oh wow i had no idea it could happen :o I want to hear it now but idk how XD Thanks for letting me know, it's really interesting!

[@thanaistheriver367]

@@nonoialbinoi have tried it yesterday. I bit different dialogue at the very start, when Father steps out of the portal. Still curious to watch Tharaels' reaction :D

[@ambitalol123]

@@nonoialbinoi you can find it in their wiki! I've just read it!!!

[@kiarantzau8579]

Can't unsee that the father's voice sounds exactly like Voldemort's

[@brendanelson8669]

This...was...unexpected. No words...no words.

[@maliciousedge6182]

Woww.. Well, shit. I did SO many quests before the finale of the Rhalata Quest Line and I choose to just let Qalian die. In my playthrough he dies either way. RIP

[@nonoialbinoi]

I feel you. Tharael died on my first playthrough too. Luckily i ran directly through the whole Rhalata questline, so i had a relatively close save to reload and do it all again. It was worth it imo, Rhalata questline and it characters are amazing

[@maliciousedge6182]

@@nonoialbinoi Yeh

[@edmundr2167]

The Devs said that Tharael is supposed to have dialogue options after moving into your home and it's a bug. I hope you will update once it's fixed

[@nonoialbinoi]

I know boo, but i recorded it long before they noticed this bug :) I sure will! Cant wait to hear what he has to say.

[@sergykid]

there are some other variations of the endings too. You can disrespect the Rhalata, give fake heart, do not wear robe, talk bad with them, etc. At the end the Father will instantly be your enemy without you having to choose, he will have a separate dialogue specifying that it was obvious that you were up to something from the mistakes. Also there is possible to give up Tharael's plan to the Father in your first dialogue with him, i don't know how i reached this option because in the next playthrough i didn't have it, maybe it's about how much Tharael trusts you at some point. Then at the end you will have Tharael as enemy instantly without having to choose, with separate dialogue saying that i gave him up. There is one more option that i didn't discover fully, if Tharael don't trust you enough then when you first meet the Father you don't have option to give up his plan, there was some other option but i missed it because i wanted to see a side dialogue first and then it disappeared when i came back, probably bugged. Also who knows what other variations with trusts and mistakes could still be. EDIT: Tharael comes in your house in Noble's Quarter if you have it.

[@emrahataselim]

What a great story 😌

[@kruziikedits5223]

I grew emotionally attached to tharael my first playthrough and I didn’t let him kill Qarian so when he killed himself- I literally screamed NO off the top of my lungs and almost started crying- as most guys, I never cry, that shit hit me too hard. Honestly I don’t see how anyone would side with the Father. I think the Father is a very interesting, intelligent character, but that doesn’t change what he did. He gave Tharael a new chance at life, but who’s to say he would’ve died? Father could’ve been lying about that. He took everything from Tharael, even his own soul. Tharael honestly had every right to act as he did, and the fact that you get better rewards for killing him upsets me

[@ssz2150]

14:33 uncomfortable silence :D

[@micalex23]

I remember this place on iron path difficulty was so annoying the fire runes on the ground would just oneshot my poor archer,also was really upset tharael died cuz i let him kill nailaq

[@julienthammavongsa5496]

Those damn runes kinda ruined the bossfights for me.Really unnecessary

[@sergykid]

from 7:25 starts my favorite dialogue. Such good philosophy

[@deelight215]

One of my favorite characters in this game. For everyone who wants this not to end with him just standing in your house after saving his life: I found a mod on nexus - "Tharaels afterlife" which gives him a room in your house and makes him a possible follower for your adventures. And for the ladies: There is also the option to give him a kiss at the end of the game. ;)

[@ThornySnailPictures]

For me I can't make the choice at all. During slow motion I can't move so the choice is made for me - I have to kill the Father. I even tried using console commands to enable movement during cutscenes. That way I can attack Tharael but he doesn't die. I try changing him to setessential 0 but he doesn't die either. Wasted a whole hour on this. So upsetting. Other people seem to have this issue as well but no solution thus far. Any ideas?

[@sergykid]

i played or watched the playthrough of many top titles, and this side quest is the best quest i have seen out of most of them, maybe Witcher had it better but it's close

[@ImTheRealPennywise]

Okay idk how I only noticed this after 3 years of playing the questline but when the Father leaves you his mask, isn't that a writing error? Since he has always said that the First Seer will 'take over the mask', or does the Father perhaps mean that the First Seer will craft/create his own mask? Food for thought..

[@Veep_The_Goblin_Hermit]

Damn I musta fucked up cuz he straight up killed himself for me

[@brendanelson8669]

So to save Brother Wrath...you have to own a house? Ok...is it worth it? The Father escaped in the painted room. The other ending..you get his mask and a mount. Which ending should i choose? Definitely not the suicide ending.

[@lucasbrant9856]

unfortunately this quest is completely bugged for me, Father is unhittable in the last fight

[@Hoppitot]

Holy shit I'm glad that my game bugged now, couldn't choose to fight father and had to kill tharael and would've gotten the suicide route damn that would've been increadibly tilting. Atleast now I can pretend I got the good ending and blame the bug I didn't :)

[@Laphr0a1g]

I don't understand how he got that hair at the end... Like, wtf, how did his hair grow so fast?

[@henryhill4289]

Does anyone know why there is a weird female voice at 1:55? It isn't an artefact of the video as I heard it on my playthrough (tracked this video down to find it).

[@cosmos9688]

"Aren't we beautiful?" It's a callback what your mom and sister say in the nightmare sequences.

[@aghastinagharta]

22:51 - I only had the option to Fight Tharael. What I did wrong?

[@thedragonhelper1772]

Ik it a bit late, if your speech is high, you can talk him into not trying to kill you.

[@DarkxisMusic]

Hey!) Thank you for video) Can you tell how made this Home furnishing?

[@nonoialbinoi]

it's a mod "Marketplace House - Redone" steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1664212346

[@DarkxisMusic]

@@nonoialbinoi Thank you so much!:)

[@jennyms1998]

dangit now i wish i wouldve killed Tharael, that mount looks heckin nice ... will it work if I just spawn it via console?

[@Force_Of_Habit]

So if he survives he turns into furniture? While I would've loved to save his life, him dying seems the most appropriate ending, it closes his arc very well since he had to kill his best friend and failed his life mission, meaning all the terrible stuff he had to do was for nothing. No, some people you just can't save. And deep down he knew that, either way, this is how it would end.

[@serasvictoria257]

Well sadly impossible to save him if u kill the guy. That leads u to the lost pages :( So I choose to help the father for better rewards...

[@KliggLasser]

Not to mention that it's basically like an act of mercy at that point.

[@ninjahaz0180]

Do you get the chest if he lives?

[@nonoialbinoi]

nope

[@ninjahaz0180]

nonoialbinoi thanks for answering my comments I subscribed

[@ninjahaz0180]

nonoialbinoi also do you think fathers mask is better than the unleashed spell? For a mage character

[@nonoialbinoi]

@@ninjahaz0180 dont know if it's better, but I think Father's mask is one of the best items in game for a mage.

[@TilW]

I sided with the Father and killed Tharael. No regrets. Here's why: - It turned out Tharael was kind of wrong about almost everything and the Father wasn't even really "evil". He still wanted to kill him. No thanks. - Tharael in the end was just a cynical, egoistic bastard who couldn't deal with his past (which also was his only "excuse" for him being an asshole to everyone). - Tharael also never really gave a shit about the players opinion on things. - Tharael pissed me off by just killing Zar'Ah, who was literally the only nice person around there (Fun Fact: She also was Jespars former companion).

[@nonoialbinoi]

Zar'Ah is not Jespars former companion. Scriptwriter was asked about it and he said no. It's a nice theory tho, one of my favorites.

[@TilW]

@@nonoialbinoi Oh, okay. It seemed so likely considering the parallels and how she was kind of "cut off" while speaking of it.

[@gooddreams8495]

I debated for a while and fight the father. One thing I like about your views is that so many people want to save him because of second chances or they like him. Tharael is not a nice person, he has also done damage to other people, the innocent he killed on the way here, those he mentioned part of being a job, and like "it's not common for the Rhalata to kill anyway", the family of the old man that spotted, Zar'Ah the only nice person, that let down her guard towards us. Those that he hurt deserve compensation. If other people deserve to die, why not him? I actually respect him more at the end when he finally realise how bad he is and he paid for his sins by dying. I don't advocate suicide but I think that's sort of fair. Usually in this sort of story, Tharael would be the kind that "bad turn good" cause he "deserve a second chance" but actually is because people find him attractive or bonded to him. I killed the father because I was looking forward to the boss fight and was wanting to figure out what would happen if i kill the 400 year old guy. But I was doubting myself during the fight as well. I'm glad the father survived, unlike most enemies in game cause it shows that just because we are the main character we don't have to and we can't kill everybody. Make sense as he is over 400 years old. I usually have the habit of reloading every save to pick the "he like that option" but now i just goes with whatever I feel like saying, see which characters likes me naturally. I don't care if Tharael don't like me.

[@kallamarsspouse]

It is evil to EXPERIMENT on children. Didn't you listen to what he said? He used children because they were "untarnished". I remember calling him out for talking about children like they were objects and asked if he had no empathy. He said empathy didn't matter, only results. The children were objects to him. He would've used healthy children if he could've gotten away with it. The logic doesn't even make sense, like for example. Your loved one is terminal and I wanna test out if I can catapult a human over a wall. Is it okay if I catapult them if they're gonna die anyway? None of the children survived the Father's experiments btw. He turned Letho into a sentient meat shield/weapon, Nessah went insane, and Tharael was also feral. All this loser did was murder and traumatize kids and SOMEHOW people still defend him. Be my guest and side with him for roleplay reasons and to get the mount, but to defend his behavior is bonkers. Also I can tell you a way to get the mount without siding with the Father. You go to the area it spawns in, then imput prid xx(the rest of its id, the first two bits are based off your load order. To find what the first two are, type help mask and use the first two symbols listed beside the Father's mask) and then click enable. After that you can hop on it and name it and it'll be connected to your flute. Just spawning it in doesn't work and could break your game. Edit; Just remembered the part where Tharael (in his dissociated state where he reverts to a child like state) talks about how the Father would scream at them for "interfering with his work" during the experiments. He was tearing out their souls and causing immense amounts of pain. That's not chaotic good, that's lawful evil. Goodbye.

[@rachlloyd1605]

@@kallamarsspouse fully agree, what the father did was just pure evil. justifying it by saying that he "saved" the kids as if he didnt traumatize the living daylights out of poor Nessah and Tharael and completely destroy Letho. all those kids were to him, were a means to an end. They were probably better off living the rest of their short lives in hope of a cure, surrounded by their friends, than dying under the hands of the Father, having their last moments on earth be fuelled by fear and terror before he killed them. Tharael was a major asshole but the dude spent his whole entire life angry, planning for revenge. he was messed up in the head i dont blame him one bit. Deadass felt so bad for him i googled my way into cheating just so i could save his broken ass at the end of the quest cuz i just felt like he deserved a second chance at life. I like to imagine he adventures off and finds his real parents

[@leeleggat9976]

The fathers voice ruined it for me

[@leeleggat9976]

@Koby Cossins because it was creepy thats why not intimadating hes supposed to be an all encompasing god why have a voice to snigger at

[@leeleggat9976]

@Koby Cossins only way the funny i mean not scary not what you would expect its the best we are getting tbh but not for me the fathers a reskinned dragon priest too much like skyrim dont like the voice my opinion cant be changed

[@leeleggat9976]

@Koby Cossins dont worry about other peoples the fathers voice reminds me of golddust just not a fitting voice imo

[@sketchiefello9002]

i think it fits very well

[@ochinchin1048]

In the original german version he is wayyyy better.