Endless Loop String Build

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Scott Winters

Күн бұрын

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@Jackie_Sins Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the video. I have some spare dollars and thought I'd give a few to show my appreciation.

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jackie. I appreciate you. Have a great evening. Best regards

@TRUSTLIFENOW Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, before applying any serving I usually wax the string heavily, this also helps to keep the serving better in place, and of course I pre stretch the string when it's finished for about 20 minutes by hanging a weight equal to the draw weight of my bow, have a great week, hope to see a Flemish twist video soon?!?

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend. Appreciate the advice on the string wax. Never thought of that. I usually string the bow and set it in the bow cradle for a while to get the initial stretch. I like the weight idea. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate you my friend. Have a great evening. Best regards

@sigmanarchery54 Жыл бұрын

Hay Scott great job you made it look easy! By the way you could make a board to put in between the post to keep it straight. Thanks again for sharing appreciate ya. Take care and God bless.

@msrvfx Жыл бұрын

Scott, another great topic and video. This will help archers be more in tune with their equipment. I think you're doing everything right, but I have a few tips to add into the string build, and hopefully they will help other string builders out. Building the Jig. The spacing distance between the two vertical string posts at both ends of your jig has to allow enough distance between them to allow you to serving wrap that string distance to match your existing end loops. Realize that the area served will be folded into a loop to create the end loop. The size of the end loop will vary depending on the type of bow you are building the string for. The "end loop" for my Asiatic Zhu Ran bow is 5" long, so I need to sting serve a bow string length of at least 11" between the posts, which will then be folded into a loop, and then do the final finish serving. Also, take into consideration the width of the serving bobbing that also needs to fit into this area. Regular recurve bows have smaller end loops, and the post can be closer together. Probably the best bow string manufacturer today is BCY Strings, and the choice of Olympic and backyard archers around the world. It is important when building a string of any kind to take several things into consideration before you buy your string making materials for the build. How do you want your bow to perform for you, will determine the bow string you choose. Do you want a high performing bow string that may offer higher arrow speed or a quiver bow. The two aren't the same. Dacron and polyester string has been around a long time and and frequently used for more traditional recurves and longbows because of its feel and quietness. B50 or B55 is an excellent string for this. If you are looking for higher performance string, and care a little less about the sound, BCY Spectra 652 is an excellent string, and the number one choice when it comes to Olympic archers. I have used this bow string with very good result for my Asiatic bow. Choose the bow string that is right for you. Second choice is your "serving material". Agin, BCY Strings makes some of the very best to choose from. I prefer the BCY 62XS serving material for its abrasion resistance and durability. nocks and bow tips are working on abrasion and durability every time you draw your bow. The next thing for consideration is when selecting your string is your "bow poundage". Third and final consideration is the "nock" you are using. All nocks are not made the same, and the gap inside the nock can vary, and that will have to relate to the final string+serving diameter to work together. Otherwise you can end up with a string that is too thin for your nock or too tight. So, a great opportunity is to call BCY Strings and talk to an expert, to help with your selection of bow string, string serving material. After a conversation with them they will tell you the number of "wraps" you will need for your bow poundage, so it will also all work well with the end serving and fit the nocks you have chosen. My favorite nocks by far for my arrow builds are Gold Tip .246" GT. They are very well built and matched, and very durable agains breakage when Robin Hooding your arrows. For setting up your string building jig, you can take measurements from a previous string, or you can just mount your older string directly on your jig and adjust the distance between the outside arms for exact spacing. When you are at the stage for adding loop serving, you can slip your old loop over your new string to mark serving end points. String Serving Bobbing Direction. Ideally, we work around the outside of our string making jig, making our way around the project. It is very important that direction that we apply the string with he string bobbin is the same consistent direction, for the entire string build. What I mean is, if you pass the string bobbin away from you over the top of the string away from you, as you serve string from your left to your right, you should do this at every stage of applying string material. If not, you can create a situation where different parts of the bow string want to twist against each other. Not good. There is a natural twist that wrapping the serving creates into the bow string, and you and this direction of bow string twist to be the same everywhere. Center Serving. You can do your Center Serving on the string jig or on the bow, but you will need to know where your arrow nock is going to sit on the bow string. The bottom of your arrow nock is not going to sit level with the bottom of your arrow rest or arrow pass. That point will be @ 5/8" higher. Also, I have asked numerous well know string custom builders, and your center serving length does not need to be that long. Just long enough to adequately protect the bow string from the nock. My current center serving is 7" long. Shorter than many, yet I will be making it 6" long for my next string. Any additional weight or stiffness added to the string can reduce your string speed. Tag Ends. When you are ready to melt the tag end of a bow string or serving string, be very careful how you do it. You've already put in time and money for the bow string and serving materials and your efforts. When you bring a flame close to a thread you want you melt, you're also bringing the flame right next to adding threads and string, which can weaken or melt this strings tool An optional tool that can be used is called Thread Zap2. It is a inexpensive copy of a battery operated vasectomy cauterizer., and you can find them numerous places online for @ $11. they put the heat (no flame) exactly where you want it and no where else. ReServing. If for some reason you find that your center serving overall diameter is too small for the nocks you are using, after finishing the string, all is no lost. If you carefully remove your center serving, add one length of bow string material under the center serving wraps, and reserve the center serving, you will have slightly increased the diameter of the overall center serving, and should fix the issue. Durability. I made my current bow string @ six months ago. In that time, I have gone to the range an average of two X per week, and shot between 180-240 each time. That's a minimum of 360 arrows x 25 weeks = 9000 arrows, and up to 12,000 arrows in that time. An overall average would be 10,500 arrows on one bow string in six months. The bow string definitely looks well used, but the center serving is still performing well with my GT nocks, and there is no sign of damage anywhere. I do plan on building a new string soon, out of the same proven materials, as preventative failure protection and for appearances. Scott my Friend, keep up the great content!

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Mark, as always thanks for the great and informative tips. I usually stick to Flemish strings but for these bows I will stick to endless loop strings. I find it easier to make these as opposed to Flemish twist. The process is much faster. The jig is the best I could come up with. If memory serves me I saw the plans somewhere. If I had access to a lathe I could make something more sturdy in the arm area. I think if I went any wider it would flex too much to be usable. I agree with your point about how wide it needs to be in relation to the serving distance. I’ve tried 12 and 14 strand builds in the past with dismal results. The 16 strand count is what I find works best with my nocks I too really like the GT nocks and use them a lot. I also use EVO .019 center serving. This combination of serving and strand count gives me good hold on the nocks and doesn’t cause any release issues. I am open to trying some of the suggested material for future builds though. As for burning the string ends that lbs a great idea I will see if I can pick one up soon. Had I been thinking correctly I would have trimed those ends down and captured them with the serving material. It worked out, but I understand the thought process if damaging the string. I also need to find the right serving jig. My current jig always gives me fits. Just not sure which one to get. There are so many to choose from. Keep the comments coming brother. I enjoy your wisdom and thankful that you are willing to share with the community! I’m sure someone will glean a lot of information from this post. I appreciate you my friend. Have a great evening. Best regards

@scatterbrain9490 Жыл бұрын

Nice job

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend. Have a great evening. Best regards

@mlap Жыл бұрын

Nice video, just like you, I am no expert but I thought it was strange that your endserving serving broke up at the end. But I think it's because of the way you make the string. Once you have done the first piece, the 7.5 inch, you are already doing backserving. That's not a problem, but I don't do that ;-), I just twist the jig and position it just like you, but I start the end serving from there and work my way to the other side and do a back serving there. You first go to the other side, and start the end serving to work back towards to the loop, which also pushes the strands in the direction of the loop. at 5.30 min you can see that the strands between the end serving and loop is not nice and tight together. And I think that's why your serving breaks up (0.17min)

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the input I really appreciate it my friend. I’ve gotten better at it but still no expert. I enjoy the learning process and insight like this is always welcome. Have a great evening. Best regards

@Jackie_Sins Жыл бұрын

Hi Scott. So the endless loop string for my AF Archery Manchu Qing Bow broke and I've been trying to find a new string for it to no avail. I could try making one or perhaps a Flemish twist might work.

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Dang, sorry to hear that Jackie. Do you know what length the string was? I’ve wanted to try a Flemish twist, but working out the loops is giving me a puzzle to solve. Let me know on the length if you can.

@Jackie_Sins Жыл бұрын

@@ScottWinters I believe the string was 55 inches. The bow is 58 inch AMO.

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Take some picture lbs with measurements on the loop size and overall length of the serving like I showed in the video. Currently all I have is Dacron string materiel but I I think I could hook you up with a string. Also let me know what the strand count is. It might take me a few days to get to and complete one but I dot mind helping out. Send the info to my email address if you will.

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

I really need to spell check better

@Tooadie Жыл бұрын

Tomarrow i will order my first own bow a samick sage recurv 40 pounds 😊 What for cheap arrows in 12p do u think is best? Heve u ever testet mandarinduck ducks 100 carbon arrows?

@ScottWinters Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and the question. I like either Linkboy arrows or Top Archery carbon shafts. I shave had no issues with either brand. The only down side to them is the shipping lead time. Sometimes it can be a little long. I have not tried the ones you mention but I think mandarin duck is a reputable name. Enjoy the new bow my friend. I think you will be pleased with your purchase. Have a great day. Best regards.

@Tooadie Жыл бұрын

@@ScottWintersthx I will look this up 😊