[ENG CC] Esprit Civic EK9 Turbo 465Hp Tsukuba Super Lap

[@miroshi]

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[@ethownzbh]

When people wonder why time attack FFs need wings, show them this.

[@Zygrene]

Ethanmeister Fancy seeing you here lol. I love this channel.

[@ethownzbh]

+Zygrene haha I'll often be anywhere I can get my best motoring fix

[@hondahillracing]

Ethanmeister Every spoiler is effective but its ugly for europe people , we know spoiler give performance but we will never put it as it looks ugly on hatch and sedan

[@StepHop5]

ikr its common sense as well

[@singleturbosupra7951]

+hondahillracing If I had a track car I couldn't care less if it's ugly. The point is to go fast. Of course on street cars I wouldn't put a wing, because you don't need it and you wont be going fast enough for the wing to work anyway. Only thing it'd do is increase drag. But I would put a spoiler on any car as long as it's functional. It can reduce the drag and/or lift

[@F_r_a_n_y]

Anyone who says "Putting a wing on a fwd car is pointless" Show them this video

[@miroslavdockal9468]

@@Catalina._ you should try to tame rear uplift during braking in 90hp civic around 100kph Mr Theoretik, and dont forget, these D14 civics can reach 200kph in stock form without any mods.

[@miroslavdockal9468]

@@Catalina._ depends on terrain.... 😁, Last time it cost me about three And half minutes, so..... How about car stability during high speed maneuvres or braking no matter which type of powertrain is used in car? Are wings And spoilers really useless ricing? Specialy on older cars without ESP.......

[@miroslavdockal9468]

@@Catalina._ why you take my wifes car on Tsukuba? Dafuq, i was talking about Real life situation, on highways is pretty easy to reach high speeds, on these speeds is better to have stability. No matter which kind of powertrain, stable car is better as unstable, when your not exceptionaly good driver, thats fact. Wings bring downforce, this meant all wheels on road without unpleased uplift, that meant safer car easier to tame..... In this tsukuba video shot you can clearly see downforce effect on fwd car. D14 civic on Tsukuba, i dont even wrote that this way, your crazy........

[@user-bp5py6bh3g]

@@Catalina._ You're a fucking moron "lol"

[@EGK20]

​@@Catalina._ from your perspective looks like you think the higher horse power the more down force generated. yes its true but on the straight line. the faster u go the more down force generated..consider same setup..same wing..same tire..pretty much all the same.. if this 465hp civic compete with 1000hp civic and both have maximum cornering speed of 120km/h do you think that 1000hp generated more down force??..think again..

[@SuperBrandonle]

the sound that engine makes is like music to my ears

[@kingnaengine_realtv186]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn3XYoV9hZhkb9E beautifoul ek4 best results hill climb beats abarth!!!!

[@raidacaipo]

500hp out of 1.6 liters is fucken incredible!

[@kserieschris3543]

Orido is a beast ! Wish we could have seen the entire footage and over all impression Ive known that he eventually crushed 59sec super lap but would have loved to seen the actual lap on this series .. Thanks for sharing

[@melvinband36]

haters say us honda FF with gt wing/rear spoiler is ricer. This is prove to haters it improve the looks and stability of FF car i learned something. no wonder my ek4 sir w/o gt wing/rear spoiler unstable rear traction

[@TheBb6prelude]

Gma Bailey if it’s a track car it needs downforce,period! Arguing otherwise will just show your ignorance.

[@SoheiJayce]

@@gmabailey40 obviously without the wing, it did not help now, did it?

[@miroshi]

This is new video, have fun.

[@TheGgroro]

***** Merci.

[@anthony_benier]

***** That beast ! Thank you Miroshi :)

[@icannotreach8088]

Yess EK9!!

[@colinjordan9651]

+miroshi when was this video made please?

[@miroshi]

sorry I have no idea, I'd say 1998-2000

[@scottmclelland9728]

Funny because I was watching the old super lap battles last night and saw this exact segment and drew up some N1 vents on my EK with eraseable marker. Now I'm ordering brake ducting hose as we speak haha! Great video. Thanks for the uploads *****

[@markwallace5274]

That was an awesome sounding turbo B series

[@kelvoy]

spoiler on ff is not rice

[@singleturbosupra7951]

+ateK Yep. As long as it's functional that is. Same goes for wings. Only people saying that functional wing or spoiler is rice are the ones that don't know shit about aeros or how to set up a car.

[@RyanWilson876]

+SingleTurboSupra Your right but wing and spoiler is the same thing.

[@singleturbosupra7951]

***** They are NOT! Google it.

[@benny704]

Yeah..though how many people actually need to drive like this regularly?

[@mayuravirus6134]

@@RyanWilson876 Spoiler is there to SPOIL the air and keep it on top of the trunk to create down force it creates swirl effects on the rear and wings are there to create downforce cleaner and creates dirty air

[@G20Lance]

sounds beautiful

[@ZEN824]

any car needs down force from front to rear of the chassis to improve grip. the debate that FF car dont need rear wing is a fuckng invalid debate because it is still a car and the wing provide stability. especially for a track car.

[@asambi69]

+zen azhar Technically with a well planned flat floor and a rear diffuser set up a rear wing is not needed.

[@ZEN824]

asambi69 indeed. but i think this car dont have that though. that's why it looses grip at the end.

[@singleturbosupra7951]

+asambi69 Flat floor + diffuser set only works when the car is extremely close to the ground though. Which also means using very stiff springs as well. Also with that the need for even more downforce doesn't go anywhere. Putting a wing on it after that will give even bigger downforce :)

[@gmabailey40]

This car needs suspension refinement to help with the rear. Diffuser is to limit lift your not gonna get to a high enough speed to justify that on this track. The wing slows the car down. Fix the rear sway and spring rate and it will be a lot more stable.

[@radityaindera3442]

Still depends on power though. If we are talking below 200hp ricers then they dont need a wing

[@Illestbuddha]

I want my b16 built like this. Great post sir.

[@ihat3friday832]

Is it for sale in the USA ? I’ll buy it if it is bro just lmk

[@mayuravirus6134]

@@ihat3friday832 As long as you don't modify the chassis its quite cheap

[@sheldonlamey7010]

I know this is a purpose built racecar and it supposed to be like no fluff but it looks really beautiful to me especially on those TE37 wheels.

[@triniwarrior16]

this is true! i have a ek civic coupe and i took off the wing and it felt so unstable, the rear of the car felt like it had no traction and it was swerving side to side on a straight line. my spoiler is back on the car

[@llkaijin13]

I like how because he didn't break the lap time, they made adjustments to the car because it's clearly not the driver XD Track gods in human form.

[@AaronClements-zg5pv]

[ENG CC] إسبريت سيفيك EK9 توربو 465 حصان تسوكوبا سوبر لاب

[@gmabailey40]

I love the moronic comments. This car is different from the ricer civic driving down the street. This car is setup to oversteer bigger rear tires, less rear spring, or smaller rear sway will help the rear stay planted. However you want some oversteer but this needs further suspension refinement.

[@kingnaengine_realtv186]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn3XYoV9hZhkb9E beautifoul ek4 best results hill climb beats abarth!!!!

[@Shadowboost]

You need to setup FF cars for oversteer to be fast. Lesson #1 in track fwd cars, including in BTCC and other racing series with front wheel drive cars

[@gmabailey40]

@@Shadowboost not true the car needs to be setup for the driver to feel comfortable. Plenty of civics are fast that understeer. It's all preference.

[@antonyaiken]

​@@gmabailey40 any racing car that understeers is slow. Period. There's no debate about it. You scrub speed mid corner and have to straighten the wheel early to regain traction. That's slow. Fwd cars are setup to oversteer. Point the car where you want to be and use throttle to pull you out if the corner. This was setup with too much oversteer, compounded by new front tyres and removed wing, made it spin.

[@gmabailey40]

@@antonyaiken that's not true at all. You need to learn left foot braking. Plenty of fast fwd cars that understeer instead of oversteer. It inspires confidence. The reason some people like the fwd to oversteer so they can use the throttle to straighten out. Still all based on setup both can be very slow. Drive a newer civic or accord both understeer and have much better turn in than a tuned eg/ek.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Jordan Cox's EG6 do have a wing. His car is nearly stripped out of the cabin interior and powered by what is seems to be a B20.

[@TheBrownGarage]

gonna put my si wing back on my ejm1 clone now lol

[@leviwrigley5260]

but does yours go fast enough for it to matter thats the question

[@masashiiino6914]

Yep,front wheel drive card does need downforce on the front by front canards,and rear wing because sometimes it can go oversteering,especially the powerful ones

[@tevinthomas6506]

nice video bro :) subscriber from Trinidad and Tobago

[@nickzema4683]

It’s not just removing the wing... they also increased front grip with the larger tires.

[@Cesar-sd5us]

Awesome video of orido but does he lap it under a minute?

[@nfs321983]

No down force no traction

[@alomechanthasinh4079]

awesome thank you!!!

[@kingnaengine_realtv186]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn3XYoV9hZhkb9E beautifoul ek4 best results hill climb beats abarth!!!!

[@awdrifter3394]

With 465hp it should've been easily under 1 min right? Maybe the turbo is too laggy for this track?

[@TheKevzx6r]

Really nice videos 👍

[@jamiebrown4418]

Can anybody tell me what spoiler this is

[@starbai410]

thanks!

[@99Lezard99]

im interested in that wing. what is it? where is it from?

[@Lilmiddwest]

Great video everyone with awd and rd car tell me why would you put bigger wing on your hyundai tiburon it's fwd...

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

So Fast and Furious was right all along with those ricer wings

[@テレサばんざい]

VTECターボいいわね ウイングってこんなにも効果あるもんなのか！

[@trialanderror3657]

I'm having the same issue with my ek9 in high speed turns feels like the rear end wants to get out of control

[@lunakai_360]

Braking will send all the weight to the front tires and off the rear. This is problematic because being an FF, the weight is already bias to the front. You've gotta enter the corner at the correct speed and then throttle through it to keep weight on the rear.

[@shombiedixon7017]

Yep the wing Equals down force

[@vtace1890]

Turbo size?so responsive

[@OrlandoDSM_GST]

At that hp range most likely a 52mm

[@canyonkiller4431]

nothing like TYPE R's time attacking tsukuba. I wonder what my car would run at tsukuba.

[@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials]

Wow, so a rear wing is necessary on a FF sometimes? I always thought it was unnecessary.

[@dekoldrick]

+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials They are. The problem with FF's is the rear can be extremely light and easily prone to losing traction at high speeds or in some cases will bounce easily. Something gotta control those back tires since there is no torque going to them.

[@gt4lex]

GT6SuzukaTimeTrials You have to get tons of grip in front though. The Maxi rally cars had wings, such as the 306 Maxi or Xsara Kit Car.

[@dln.sweeney]

+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Pretty much any fast FF track car runs very stiff rear suspension to negate understeer and help the front end bite. Without downforce provided by a wing the rear of the car gets really twitchy and unpredictable at high speed. Other aero bits up front like a splitter or dive planes won't work properly without a wing to balance things out also.

[@josemarina230]

When you need.to go really fast you need wing

[@mayuravirus6134]

It is necessary if you want to runaway from the cops

[@dangusprime]

I cant tell you how many times I have seen people talking bad about FWD cars with wings, spoilers etc.

[@savagepickle0443]

“Why do you have a wing on a front wheel drive car, that’s so stupid” that’s almost like someone saying rwd cars don’t need a front splitter

[@FCT8306onTwoWheels]

0:22 the O.G. boostedboiz

[@farhenheit628of1200]

so wings are important.

[@irfanaqil1]

downforce on ff is real

[@jjsorenavki7005]

time to get a custom wing made espirit :P

[@chaosknups]

I'm saving this video for future moron smackdowns.

[@illewmenadeh722]

This thing beats a stock 911 GT2 RS around Tsukuba wtf

[@divecolosio4988]

997 or 991 that is?

[@コジタカ]

500ps Over！！ RB26 piston！！

[@JoseSantos-ys3rj]

this is a b16 right? so you are telling me that if i use a b16/18/20 i can use oem rb pistons to up the boost safely?

[@TouffmanJasonTGV]

where are the ppl that thinks civic are gay??? oh they are gone

[@matteocostantini9838]

it's a bit strange, with no wings, he tells that the car don't have traction in 4th gear, but the wings push down the bottom of the car and raises the front, so why that happened? They changed even the tires, and the problem seems that they have no grip in general, so i suppose that can be a tires problem. I dont think actually that the wings makes nothing, but what i want to said is that you don't have to put 2 variables, beacause you dont know what is the cause of the incorrect behavior of the car.

[@RideVibeSociety]

ill buy..how much?

[@andre51605]

This is why 500HP on an FF car isn't advisable. Tuners, I advice you to tune your front wheel drive cars to just about 350HP. It may be low-powered, but it will be able to corner well

[@CrankPointZero]

Cornering is more about the Skills of the driver, than the power of the car. u can oversteer or understeer with a low power car as good as with a high power car.

[@ancientapparition1638]

@@CrankPointZero well its certainly easier with 465 fucking horsepower

[@MrShadowofthewind]

What do you mean ? It was fine with the spoiler, so just leave it on.

[@radityaindera3442]

I wouldnt drive that without a roll cage.

[@MElekiaZ]

The most kinky and fast civic xddd

[@tommykaira8775]

how to spoil an NA car

[@YouTuber-ii9tq]

ウィングないと超オーバーだな

[@itzzToon]

ayyyy first

[@the_rush_to_nothing]

I'm putting a wing on the front of my RWD car so this doesn't happen to me too.

[@martinflores8606]

Actually works, your front wheels will have more traction which equals to less understeer lol

[@Nikita-xi7yn]

не получилось не фартануло

[@yuris6125]

Почти к успеху дошёл.

[@estrellapequena3843]

今ならNAのB18Cでも1分切り楽勝の時代だからな FFに大パワーは無意味(笑)

[@david13685]

proton mana boleh challenger ini arrr.

[@darkpit1303]

hahaha lol he's driving a civic so he has to be a ricer

[@irfanaqil1]

downforce on ff is real