Engine teardown to the bare cylinders - for what purpose?

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@lupulflamand5673
@lupulflamand5673 Жыл бұрын
Next time try to use a radiator to cool the oil. And add a fan to help the air flow through the radiator fins.
@autotalon
@autotalon Жыл бұрын
I was thinking this but actually route the oil through the cooling circuit too, so the water pump also pumps oil
@4BillC
@4BillC Жыл бұрын
Yeah because "air cooled" engines really use the oil as a type of coolant. Sort of...
@MarkZukkininberg
@MarkZukkininberg Жыл бұрын
Intresting!
@K-Effect
@K-Effect Жыл бұрын
Replace the water/antifreeze in the cooling system with used motor oil and see what happens?
@autotalon
@autotalon Жыл бұрын
@@K-Effect Well no I mean literally make the cooling system part of the oil system, have the water pump draw from the oil pan, etc.
@Techcensorshipbot
@Techcensorshipbot Жыл бұрын
You guys do more interesting novel ideas more than any other mainstream youtube channel. Its really cool.
@tomtheplummer7322
@tomtheplummer7322 Жыл бұрын
It’s hot
@MrRahimhosein
@MrRahimhosein Жыл бұрын
Aluminum is better at absorbing and releasing heat but there is too much mass. Not enough cooling fins and surface area for the heat to dissipate
@PREDATEURLT
@PREDATEURLT Жыл бұрын
mass is not a problem, it makes temperature more stable, but surface area is far to small.
@Hipsters_N_Hippies
@Hipsters_N_Hippies Жыл бұрын
That Cylinder head and then the top of the cylinders is the hot spot. The temperature gauge should be monitoring the middle of the head. And much colder spark plugs.
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. If they soldered diretcly to the cylinder a LOT of fins and put 2 fans on each side that could have worked. I think it's still better to hook 3 oil coolers and that'll do the job!!!!
@K-Effect
@K-Effect Жыл бұрын
Last time they did this there was snow and ice on the ground, that had to of helped
@billyjackson5799
@billyjackson5799 Жыл бұрын
​@@gabrielv.4358 The problem with that is the fact they filled both the water and oil passages with the aluminum
@blazodelic359
@blazodelic359 Жыл бұрын
Next 2-stroke lada engine!!!
@Tode420
@Tode420 Жыл бұрын
Yesss that would be awesome
@noahharran9527
@noahharran9527 Жыл бұрын
Great idea
@dooflydetailguuy4349
@dooflydetailguuy4349 Жыл бұрын
Great idea
@BoondyIsOn
@BoondyIsOn Жыл бұрын
Then try using RC nitro fuel to see the fuel can produce more power.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Жыл бұрын
I think a giant oil cooler with its own fan would be worth a try. Installing some type of heatsinks/fins on the oil pan, valve cover, and lower end of the engine block should also help. The cooler you can keep the oil, the more heat it will be able to remove from the block, head, pistons, cylinders, etc as it flows through. The oil is normally cooled by the relatively cool coolant flowing through the block and head, but since there is no coolant in the engine, you will have to cool the oil some other way.
@Mr.Robert1
@Mr.Robert1 Жыл бұрын
They make pans that have fins for cooling. As you drive the air keeps the temperature down. Never heard of needing a fan in that area. Think of high revving motorcycle engines. 17,000 rpm, never a fan. Air cooled or a radiator.
@packerbrewerbuck
@packerbrewerbuck Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Robert1 All the high revving sport bike engines are liquid cooled with a radiator and fan, some have an oil cooler too
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Robert1 I have seen those, some cars actually come with them from the factory. As for the fan, I was talking about putting one on a large radiator style oil cooler behind the grill. Normally a fan isn't needed on an oil cooler since the speed is normally high enough for plenty of wind in performance applications, but since they are driving at such low speeds and stopping all the time and there's no coolant to cool the oil, ram air certainly wouldn't be adequate on its own.
@packerbrewerbuck
@packerbrewerbuck Жыл бұрын
@averyalexander2303 Yes I've never seen a fan used on a motorcycle oil cooler before but all coolant radiators have an electric or mechanical fan of some sort fitted to them. Keeps temps down in traffic or else they could boil over. Liquid cooled engines are way more susceptible to overheating and head gasket damage than air/oil cooled motors.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Жыл бұрын
@@packerbrewerbuck Oil coolers don't normally have fans because, assuming the primary cooling system works as intended (unlike his), the conditions which could overheat the oil (sustained high RPMs under a heavy load) would also mean lots of airflow from driving at a reasonably high speed. Stock vehicles won't overheat the oil at idle or while driving at 10-20 MPH, but his car obviously does. Just like a coolant radiator, the airflow while stopped and at such low speeds wouldn't adequately cool the oil cooler by itself, a fan would be needed in his application to ensure that the oil cooler always has good airflow regardless of speed.
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao Жыл бұрын
Air-cooled engines usually have an oil cooler. And I believe that for correct cooling, large spaced aluminum fins are needed. A solid block of aluminum will only hold heat for so long. As space is limited, I believe the solution would be sealed copper piping to conduct heat to an air radiator at the front of the vehicle. It is not necessary to fill the copper tube with any gas or liquid, just ordinary oxygen will produce a heat conduction reaction within it.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
Put a big fat oil cooler on it next
@cohocarl
@cohocarl Жыл бұрын
A majority of the heat is in the head/exhaust port area. Cooling the cylinders helps, but the head needs some sort of cooling.
@ReneSchickbauer
@ReneSchickbauer Жыл бұрын
Next step would be to slap on a fuel/oil heat exchanger that puts some of the heat from the oil into the fuel that's about to be burned in the engine (just like in an airplane). Requires a fairly inefficient engine that burns a lot of fuel. Fortunately, it's a Lada so that particular feature comes pre-installed from the factory.
@Hydrogenblonde
@Hydrogenblonde Жыл бұрын
Try cleaning the cylinder barrels with acid before pouring in the aluminium. The rust and crud on the cylinders would act like insulation. You need to remove that.
@dave161141
@dave161141 Жыл бұрын
At first glance, I was expecting the molten alu to explode. Then realized, the block was pre-heated. They were lucky.
@jimmyguy428
@jimmyguy428 Жыл бұрын
The cylinder head needs some sort of cooling too. The head has to deal with a good portion of the combustion heat, as well as the exhaust heat.
@anatolklops
@anatolklops Жыл бұрын
By pouring such aluminum on this block, you certainly did not get good adhesion and thus heat dissipation. In addition, the ribs you welded did not increase the surface area that much compared to the factory cylinder surface. Just look at a 400cc air-cooled motorcycle engine, you need 4 times as many fins as it has. In addition, as I mentioned in the previous video, you must use an oil cooler with a possible second circuit with an additional pump pouring oil under low pressure in a large amount to the top of the head, so that it spits back into the bowl and receives additional heat.
@bernardflood8289
@bernardflood8289 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Ireland. Very interesting. How about an external oil cooler. How about making a big stirling engine to run a car, they did experiment a bit with this idea in the US back in the '70's.
@1977massey
@1977massey Жыл бұрын
Drill holes through the aluminum between the cylinders and add scoops to direct the airflow through the engine with a fan for idle purposes
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 Жыл бұрын
Old aircooled motorbikes were Air & Oil cooled, so, as well as fins on the cylinders, there was an oil cooler/radiator... This might help keep temps down 🤔😏 😎🇬🇧
@bobbofly
@bobbofly Жыл бұрын
Maybe pre-manufacture the aluminum cooling fins so you can have a higher number of thinner fins that stick out further with more surface area. Bolt them together with spacers in a stacked configuration & set them into the poured molten aluminum before it solidifies. Remove the bolts & spacers used to hold the fins together after the metal cools. Presto! also weld/solder fins to the valve cover & oilpan.
@busyguy7479
@busyguy7479 Жыл бұрын
this was a nice try very interesting , if u had more cooling fins on block that could have helped and maybe a oil cooler external . maybe nitrogen pumped into the block or head , anyway u had fun u guys never fail to entertain kudos to u all.
@jimbillyjenkims
@jimbillyjenkims 11 ай бұрын
Man, those lada engines can take a beating. You should apply the fins directly to the cylinder walls and inner surface of the head just like air cooled engines do by design.
@Skogsmullemeck
@Skogsmullemeck Жыл бұрын
Try using a big oilcooler + coolingfins on the oilsump
@brandonyork4430
@brandonyork4430 Жыл бұрын
You and team work like oil mechanics congratulations keep up good job
@konfyoused
@konfyoused Жыл бұрын
Needs an external oil cooler. Might also try circulating something through the head to keep the combustion chamber cooler. Maybe seal off the heads coolant passages at the head gasket surface and use the water jackets to circulate the engine oil through as well.
@mr.dahliaking.202
@mr.dahliaking.202 Жыл бұрын
Only in Russia and countries similar to it like Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, etc. you would find a state of the art exclusive repair autoshop that you would think would be only settled in the middle of a city or something, but actually as you step out of it a few feet, all the broken down slums with dogs tied to fence start to appear and the environment transforms to the stalin era lol In my country where I live same thing, we have this amazing new shoping center that is the size of a football field, and then 10 meters away from it a wooden shack probably 120 years old where a baba yaga still lives lol
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM Жыл бұрын
The hottest part of an engine is the head, it needs someway to radiate the heads. Look at a vw aircooled motor, the top of the cylinders of a lot bigger fins than the lower. and the heads are aluminum and even bigger. You also need to cool the oil and run more oil through.
@ncjohn3429
@ncjohn3429 Жыл бұрын
You guys should make your own core box and pour an aluminum block of your own installing sleeves etc...
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 9 ай бұрын
place an electric fan where the radiator normally goes, just to blow air on the fins welded to the side of the block. Next, install an oil cooler, to keep the oil temp under control.
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme Жыл бұрын
I think you were on to something about prepping the cylinder surface a bit better before pouring. You need to find the components that get hot and add surface area to that. Rocker cover for instance. Think about the surface area of a radiator, welding a few large fins won't do very much. Maybe try brazing a bunch of CPU heatsinks to everything 😊
@Foxstar1387
@Foxstar1387 Жыл бұрын
bigger oil coolers with fans on the oil coolers. A big rad type fan would help push air over the motor too.
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 Жыл бұрын
How about an oil cooled engine? Or how about an advanced gas (not gasoline) cooled engine? Or in other words, how about grafting in an air conditioning unit to cool an engine, instead of liquid - feed the refrigerant through the engine block and head? On an entirely different tack, how about taking a crankshaft, cutting it in two, turn one half through 180 degrees, weld the two halves back together, then modify the rest of the engine to time up the modded crank? Then drive it! Or for a slightly wilder ride, cut the crank and turn one half through 90 degrees and repeat the same process? Just a few ideas!
@screener545
@screener545 Жыл бұрын
so filling the block with aluminum, reduced the surface area, but you increase thermal transfer because of the metal. but in the end it was basically the same issue because there was still a lack of cooling. the best would have been to somehow weld all the fins on from a radiator. just pack the cylinder wall to block with radiator matieral, hell even steel wool would work, something you can blow through that is metal and has tons of surface area. Also the retstriction will assist in thermal transfer. The main consideration here, is temperature difference. as temperatures get further apart, the rate of thermal transfer increases. so 5 degree item and 20 degree item is slow transfer to the 5. but 5 degree and 200degree is very quick in comparison. So the motor will get hot quickly, but with a calculated surface area it can level out like a thermostat (that thermostat changes depending on ambient, this is why air cooled motorcycles over heat in extreme heat, as they were not designed to operate in those ambient temperatures)
@MikeBlunt2
@MikeBlunt2 Жыл бұрын
keep in mind an air cooled engine tends to run much hotter than a liquid cooled one not only that but most air cooled are oil cooled as well
@off-gridoutbackaustralia
@off-gridoutbackaustralia Жыл бұрын
Put a heatsink on the head too and use a transmission cooler to cool the engine oil
@aaronzack14
@aaronzack14 Жыл бұрын
Rebuild the top end and build a triple expansion steam engine. Having issues with heat? Perfect.
@theblackjack297
@theblackjack297 Жыл бұрын
Definitely add an oil cooler with its own fan
@TheMrDarius
@TheMrDarius Жыл бұрын
A small diesel engine that is running away but to keep it cool have liquid nitrogen flow through to cooling passages.
@nickyalousakis3851
@nickyalousakis3851 Жыл бұрын
add molten aluminum to the cylinder head as well.
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 Жыл бұрын
Increase the surface area as much as possible with fins while keeping the mass as low as possible. If you look at the jugs of a motorcycle engine the fins are long and there is only enough mass for the sleeve in the cylinder and the fins.
@yambo59
@yambo59 Жыл бұрын
An air cooled engine must be designed that way from the ground up, properly designed air cooled engines such as say an old VW beetle have all kinds of cylinder fins, oil cooler and specially designed sheet metal shrouding to direct air through the cylinder fins along with a massive engine driven fan to make it work.
@hempev
@hempev Жыл бұрын
I see a new post here and think "Time for another Crazy Ivan!"
@kristiansolstad9068
@kristiansolstad9068 Жыл бұрын
need thicker and larger / longer fins and, more of them in a closed tunnel om each side with a serious fan putting tons of airpressure trough it to take as much heat as possible out. and measure fin temp as well. And yeah copper does transfer heat better. Gold is the best. tho a bit expensive ;) I expect copper will put enough heat into the walls to warp and distort them and possibly jam the pistons in place. May need to do it without pistons and hone sylinder walls after adding the copper and fins. Look at how heatisnks for giant amplifiers >2kw are stacked in a tunnel with fan at each end. Closing off the outside im a tunnel means ALL the air from the fan need to pass the fins and cool them instead of as now most of the air runs away from the engine. Keep in mind air pressure will go the easiest way
@tOxIc_TrEaSuRe
@tOxIc_TrEaSuRe Жыл бұрын
make a radiator with big tubes, connect the oil and cooling systems and run oil in everything.
@Energikar
@Energikar Жыл бұрын
Put aluminum vanes through the engine between those cylinders and have the fan blowing through there..
@ollieprevett7984
@ollieprevett7984 Жыл бұрын
hook a turbocharger up to the cooling sytem to pump air around at high velocity
@Miles7955
@Miles7955 Жыл бұрын
Maybe putting the standard cooling fan back on the engine might help.
@hinspect
@hinspect Жыл бұрын
Transmission oil cooler adapted to engine oil. We cool X-Ray Tubes that way
@DOCTRJ
@DOCTRJ Жыл бұрын
Drill a few more smaller holes in the block and make the aluminum fins bigger! 😁😎
@foreverendeavors6210
@foreverendeavors6210 Жыл бұрын
Fins gotta go all the way against the cylinders, the blanket of aluminum is the problem
@rickymoats3915
@rickymoats3915 Жыл бұрын
Direct the airflow out the side of the fenders
@rickyosterfeld
@rickyosterfeld Жыл бұрын
Use a big turbocharger as the fan to cool the inside of the block
@blackriflex39
@blackriflex39 Жыл бұрын
you need a hood it will run cooler also shrouds will help direct air flow.. id like to see how this works at speed
@tuscaderofour
@tuscaderofour Жыл бұрын
Pump the oil through an external oil cooler.
@VoVilliaCorp
@VoVilliaCorp Жыл бұрын
I support using copper next time, it'll sort of be like a cpu heatsink
@andrewbarnard3229
@andrewbarnard3229 Жыл бұрын
Oil cooler? Remote filter mounts for additional capacity...
@wiedietie
@wiedietie Жыл бұрын
That was aLada heat 🔥🔥
@kolinevans9127
@kolinevans9127 Жыл бұрын
This certainly wasn't a failure , consider melting the aluminium back out & making seals @ side but run the same oil as the engine through & around the cylinders then to a radiator or just copper matrix to run your fans on, just coil up enough copper pipe for your 'radiator' ?
@jmptaz
@jmptaz Жыл бұрын
How about take out the grill add a an ac converter and a home ac unit to blow colder air across the engine
@DOCTRJ
@DOCTRJ Жыл бұрын
FINS ON THE CYLINDER HEAD, AND BIGGER FINS!! 😁😎👍
@zed91
@zed91 Жыл бұрын
Big oil cooler & nicer and more numerous fins.
@UpVoltageOverclocking
@UpVoltageOverclocking Жыл бұрын
Cars like a Porsche with air cooling have a lot more oil in the system and an oil cooler
@ZoltánAntalLepold
@ZoltánAntalLepold Жыл бұрын
Maybe can try to make a block out fuly of aluminium and ad fins to thet!
@aaronmartin6989
@aaronmartin6989 Жыл бұрын
Maybe next time weld a huge fan onto a hood to extract more heat
@Choober65
@Choober65 Жыл бұрын
How about OIL cooling? No water, just use the sump oil to cool the engine by pumping it through the water galleries too.
@holotrop11
@holotrop11 Жыл бұрын
or to wire heatpipes around cylinders and then to BIG passive cooler on roof 👨‍🔧
@ArT2Oo0
@ArT2Oo0 Жыл бұрын
What happens when you replace engine coolant with freon?
@torso99
@torso99 Жыл бұрын
some oldschool sports car had exhaust cooling system... the exhaust lit cooled the engine
@mungmungie
@mungmungie Жыл бұрын
You definitely achieved 107% success in the abuse of a Lada engine! 😬 Definitely needs some air scoops and maybe use the radiator fan in there somewhere.
@caseylee3350
@caseylee3350 Жыл бұрын
Run twin carburetors but one 100% nitro and one fuel! Separate pedals! 😂 advice the timing just so!
@kavonsmith7265
@kavonsmith7265 Жыл бұрын
Add a oil cooler
@aberakadabra1285
@aberakadabra1285 Жыл бұрын
Oil cooler 👍 I am surprised how well the aluminium works to exchange heat.
@lupulflamand5673
@lupulflamand5673 Жыл бұрын
And this is how the Vlada (the Volkswagen beetle of Russia) was born.
@Jamalsneed44
@Jamalsneed44 Жыл бұрын
Hey can a car run with the exhaust connected to the intake like a closed loop???
@ryokufox2281
@ryokufox2281 Жыл бұрын
Empty out a radiator and use oil instead of coolant
@ryanjosef
@ryanjosef Жыл бұрын
maybe try a really large oil cooler with this?
@levelflightvideo
@levelflightvideo Жыл бұрын
Add a huge oil cooler.
@hackfreehvac
@hackfreehvac Жыл бұрын
Oil cooler for sure
@shaneshane1379
@shaneshane1379 Жыл бұрын
Drive through mud puddles really fast to cool it.
@alexanderpiedrahita1645
@alexanderpiedrahita1645 Жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea, remove out the car disc brakes and calipors and replaced them with like jalapeños motorcycle brakes
@RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz
@RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz Жыл бұрын
Maybe in the winter it would be just fine
@johnmorton7577
@johnmorton7577 Жыл бұрын
Copper oil pan with cooling fins
@johnw3379
@johnw3379 Жыл бұрын
Make a huge oil cooler
@Franco_FC
@Franco_FC Жыл бұрын
Test with OIL COOLING please
@kingquasar9
@kingquasar9 Жыл бұрын
Try extra oil. Bigger oil pan maybe?
@jamesmiddleton8128
@jamesmiddleton8128 Жыл бұрын
Try an all oil cooled engine!
@phonker9339
@phonker9339 Жыл бұрын
hi can you do sharp camshaft in home conditions
@michaelhart7841
@michaelhart7841 Жыл бұрын
U need stronger fans with more air flow might help
@BlueShadow125
@BlueShadow125 Жыл бұрын
use gallium instead of coolant
@dennis-nz5im
@dennis-nz5im Жыл бұрын
Would require a heating system, insulation on the hoses and a constant flow of heat and/or a sealed up radiator that will not freeze up.
@dennis-nz5im
@dennis-nz5im Жыл бұрын
Remember the frozen reactors on Russia subs . If you shut down the metal cooled reactors they can’t be restarted
@utforskaren3031
@utforskaren3031 Жыл бұрын
supplement with an oil cooler
@kano8474
@kano8474 Жыл бұрын
Giant oil cooler!!!
@JUDGERAMBO
@JUDGERAMBO Жыл бұрын
Add a large oil cooler
@86Rommi
@86Rommi Жыл бұрын
What if you replace coolant with oil 🤔 oil in engine and cooled with oil...
@bullbutter9699
@bullbutter9699 Жыл бұрын
USE THE RADIATOR , FILL IT WITH OIL, AND IT'LL WORK !!
@plxton
@plxton Жыл бұрын
So you guys can do this to this engine and it's fine and my Mercedes has had two engines with German engineering and it's gone again... what are these made from?!
@dar3726
@dar3726 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Put a big oil cooler on. It.
@madamfloof2249
@madamfloof2249 Жыл бұрын
An oil cooler would help.
@informediatech-bruno5766
@informediatech-bruno5766 Жыл бұрын
Coming soon, 2 stroke lada😅
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y Жыл бұрын
now I want to see what happens if you try to cool the engine with liquid nitrogen :D
@james13914
@james13914 Жыл бұрын
2 stroke lada engine?
@NGPCO.
@NGPCO. Жыл бұрын
DUCT TAPE HEAD GASKET
@pinkiepie1656
@pinkiepie1656 Жыл бұрын
It would drip out pretty fast from the heat and pressure:)
@duanemyhre
@duanemyhre Жыл бұрын
Oil cooler is the ticket….
@Yogenh
@Yogenh Жыл бұрын
Need an oil cooler that would fix it
@bullbutter9699
@bullbutter9699 Жыл бұрын
Try it again, it can be done I'm sure.
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