Engineered Fluids' ElectroCool Dielectric Coolant - What is it?

[@AfrikanMan]

Impressive. Good job.

[@balla2172]

I would really like is part of a lot more if the company would actually allow comments on the KZbin videos. So my question is is how long does this stuff last so by have a data center that's emerged in this how long will the food last before any day exchange it. And can it be cooled Kennedy ran through a cooling process to skip it at say 40ﾟ. And if it gets cold enough is there any ill interaction or moisture that would form on the surface of the electronic that would cause it to short

[@garytesta2324]

ElectroCool Dielectric Coolant has a 25 Year Shelf Life and a 10 Year operating life. There is no moisture possible as the coolant is hydrophobic. Feel free to email us directly at [e-mail] and thanks for your comments!

[@abelf210]

@@garytesta2324 rust free?

[@abelf210]

corrosion resistance

[@garytesta2324]

Completely rust free. If you go on our website - www.engineeredfluids.com and go to our video section you'll see us pour water on an operating server with no ill effects, the water simply pools on the chips and drips off while the server operates normally. Our product completely protects all the server components from corrosion and water intrusion.

[@mediaclipz570]

@@garytesta2324 I have an asic miner I need to cool. I purchased your EC-140. Is it safe to submerge the power supply as well?

[@plashplash-fg6hd]

This is revolutionary. Why isn’t anyone using this? Even the high end builds on the web don’t use this yet. Can I use this for a Raspberry Pi?

[@garytesta2324]

You can most certainly use this for a rasaberry PI, you don't even need to have the fluid circulate as the rPIs are pretty low heat. In terms of why isn't everyone using this, those that are really winning in the edge data center space are most certainly using our technology every day to increase their lead. Its their secret sauce!

[@TreadTalk247]

@@garytesta2324could you use your fluid to cool a motorcycle supercharger intercooler? I know it doesn’t involve electricity but wondering if this could be the innovation the racing world is waiting for to cool our engines!? Way cool tech regardless….

[@strikeforcek9149]

Would this be a viable fluid to cool marine engines in a closed loop cooling system, rather than the typical raw sea water used in today's standard? This could be HUGE for marine applications depending on it's boiling point/dissipation rate (if any).

[@zachduncan4936]

StrikeForce K9 look up the 3M NOVEC fluid on KZbin. Gigabyte submerged a full server in the fluid. The guy explained the processor gets so hot it literally turns the fluid into a vapor, and then they have a radiator which condenses it and feeds back into a tank. Hope this helps.

[@strikeforcek9149]

@@zachduncan4936 just checked it out, thank you! YES, this stuff would be impeccable for closed loop cooling systems on marine craft/boats. We currently have two ways of cooling boat engines: Marine antifreeze in closed loop cooling systems (much like 3M used in that video except running through a boat engine's cooling valleys instead of surrounding the components) and raw sea water. The downfalls is that Marine antifreeze is rather disgusting stuff and pollutes the water heavily, should a boat sink. Raw sea water (it's the most common cooling method as of now, prob like 90% of the boats out there cool this way) creates so much gunk, crud, and deposits foreign bodies into your engine valleys and etc because there's very few filtering systems along the way to most engines. I feel like this would be way better to bring the motor temp down by running through the engine and through an external a heat exchanger. If it can keep an engine around 140-160, it'd be great. Not to mention all the electronic components that heat up immensely at the helm (fish finders, chartplotters, 25w vhf radio units, etc etc). I feel like there's a lot of useful marine applications possible with this, dependent on cost factors of course.

[@garytesta2324]

Our dielectric coolants while capable of replacing the typical raw water cooling, would likely not be economical in this application as there is no need for dielectric (non-conductive) qualities and there are plenty of standard coolants that are readily available and very cheap. That said one of my favorite applications for our dielectric coolants is cooling the onboard electronics on board ships and yachts. Because most 50ft + plus boats these days have a server on board to control the engines, navigation, internal lights, etc. these servers corrode quite quickly due to the salt in the marine environment. We have server containers that are filled with our dielectric coolant and that is circulated through a simple tube in tube heat exchanger using raw water cooling drawn by the engine, generator, or stand alone pump. This effectively seals the servers in a full protected environment and enables them to be placed anywhere in the vessel and be completely sealed from water incursion, salt air, etc. This application is being tested on submarines, and other vessels that use a lot of high powered electronics. Its silent, very low power, and highly effective for cooling the electronics. it also dramatically improves the overall MTBF calculations by eliminating the fans and using SSDs.

[@raymondramirez7255]

I have to question how long before the chemical evaporates to refill, and the second question is it corrode to any of the components in the system like parts in the servers and computers (plastic certain metals ext....) TKY everyone.

[@garytesta2324]

Our products show no evaporation below 180C so there is no need to ever refill your system. Our Dielectric Coolants fully protect all electronics and components operating in the fluid so there is no corrosion. If you want to see a detailed list of compatible materials please see our Materials Compatibility Guide: www.engineeredfluids.com/our-resources/compatibility-guides/

[@islandofrelax1057]

Good job

[@garytesta2324]

Thanks!

[@mogey26]

Could I use this for an outdoor battery pack application in order to heat the pack up above 0C? How far below freezing will it maintain a viscosity that could be handled by a typical centrifugal pump?

[@garytesta2324]

Yes, we have exactly that application in production today with a number of micro-grid and grid storage battery applications. Our products are pumpable down to -50C, but the best part is that if you properly construct the battery compartment, you can stop the flow the coolant while its warm and use it as a highly effective insulator to keep the battery well above 0C without having to heat the fluid for over 20 days. This allows the battery to remain at peek performance temperatures without using energy, then when the battery is used it naturally heats up the Dielectric Coolant, and if the system requires cooling you simply activate the pump to begin the cooling process. We also have applications that use the waste heat created to heat homes and pools.

[@mattb7389]

Gary, This sounds awesome! How do I get this in Australia?

[@garytesta2324]

Hi Matt, we ship to AUS all the time, just make a quote request to [e-mail]!

[@orielmarinbroker]

Hi Mr. Testa, I'm looking the liquid immersion cooling BitCool BC-888 for my asic antminer s9, but I have some questions, To use this bitcool I need a system for the liquid or only throw in the asic???

[@orielmarinbroker]

@@teebee6689 Thank you so much, I was able to make the cooling system with a radiator

[@ucquangtran1163]

Or you can exchange heat to water in your pool or lake or river near by your mining farm use heat to heat exchanger

[@sonofsarek]

Water doesn’t actually conduct electricity. The salt ions released from your hand when you place it in water do.

[@garytesta2324]

Your correct, deionized water immediately begins to pick up any stray ions from metals, salts and other sources on boards and electronics and quickly becomes fully conductive. In addition, deionized water is very corrosive, particularly with soft metals like copper and tin. So its difficult to use as a dielectric with out fully protective films and special components.

[@meteorytypl]

Gary great product. It can be shipped to Europe or You have any dealer there ? I need this 20L :) Pretty avesome. Better than Novec.

[@garytesta2324]

Thanks for the great feedback. We stock our products at our own European warehouse in Amsterdam for distribution throughout the EU / UK and Middle East.

[@Saturdaymorninghero]

If you used this with GPUs would you take off the heat pipes and just use the bare pcb?

[@garytesta2324]

No, it's easier if you simply leave the existing heat sink on the board. If you wish to remove the heat pipes and replace it with a smaller heat sink, you can certainly do so but it's pretty costly and most customers don't like the hassle of replacement.

[@blainevans4782]

could you use this in an application for say, contained transformer units? and would it operate proper cooling through convection or do you have to mechanically move the fluid? i have several small (1 cubic foot) transformers in an area that i want to cool and fans are not an option. so i havent looked at the math but im assuming that i could basically make this work with a five gallon setup

[@garytesta2324]

Yes our VoltCool product is used specifically to cool transformer applications as you describe. You have to calculate the total mass of coolant carefully when using only convection as you need sufficient mass of our VoltCool and surface area on the outside of the container to dissipate the heat properly.

[@unclepecos509]

And what happens when you have to replace a Riser Card? A CPU? or upgrade the DIMMS?

[@garytesta2324]

You replace them as you would in any server there is no need to clean or remove the ElectrCool fluid from the server. You simply replace the components. ElectroCool Dielectric Ffuid does not build up a film or coating on the electrical contacts as happens with mineral oil.

[@unclepecos509]

@@garytesta2324 Oh really, that simple? LOL I work as a Customer Engineer for IBM (over 20 years experience) I repair all large enterprise systems to include power servers, storage & z mainframe. I also work as a contractor on all Cisco, NetApp, Dell, Lenovo, Pure and many more. This is a complete NIGHTMARE to replace parts. You would need way more TIME, way more SPACE and Data Centers DO NOT have that. What? I stand on a tarp and do the replacement? Hahaha Most importantly, where are all the cables? LOL. Looks like a great idea but by solving one problem you made a whole bunch that need to be sorted out. imo, smart people always come on with new & improved ideas WITHOUT thinking about the guy on the other side or even including them in the journey. Example: You made it sound so easy, like it's nothing and I'm here to tell you, IT'S NOT at all. Looks nice though, GL

[@garytesta2324]

@@unclepecos509 Unfortunately, this is nor an uncommon response from engineers that don't completely understand a new technology. To assume that we haven't thought through the maintenance and failure resolution modes is an incredibly poor assumption. BTW, No you don't stand on a tarp (LOL), unless of course there is something else you are trying to prevent falling on the floor :) So let's answer some your basic questions: 1) All the cables are easily accessible on the top of the servers and you simply remove the ones required to replace a board or remove all the ones require to remove the server from the tank. This is really no different than what you do today except you don't need to climb in back of the server cabinet as everything easily assessable from the front of the immersion tank. 2) We use a simple overhead electric hoist that is positioned above the tank to remove and support servers from the tank. This hoist allows you to position the server over the tank and rotate it in any direction to allow you access to all the server components, boards and components. In addition there is a perforated work tray that slides under the server that is supported by the tank that prevents components from falling into the tank and allows you to position tools and components on (yes of course its grounded to prevent static) it also has a brace to hold the server in any position required to ease access. 3) Ease of access, generally we don't keep all the chassis covers on the server as they are useless in fluid and this allows quick access to internal components. 3) This isn't an immature technology but rather one that is in full deployment including by the way with IBM, Google, FaceBook, Quanta, Juniper, and many others. You are correct in your statement that you need to sort out problems before deployment! In fact, the Operations and maintenance were one of the FIRST things we thought about in constructing our systems because we knew that existing engineers hate change and new things, so we had to solve these operations issues up front. Your welcome to come down to St. Petersburg FL next time you take your family to Disney and we'll get you certified on Immersion Cooling!

[@pirotess2]

How effect of deionized water on plastic on the motherboard?

[@garytesta2324]

Deionized water is very difficult to work with and highly corrosive to soft metals. Also it become ionized once in contact with metallic materials.

[@shakilakhtar7402]

Can it replace transformer oil?

[@garytesta2324]

Yes we have a specific family of products for transformers called VoltCool, its designed to meet the 40year stability requirement as well as being fully biodegradable for use in sensistive ecology locations. I addition we have a version of VoltCool called VC-140 with an extremely high fire and flash point for use inside building that also meets Japan's very high fire requirements. If you send an email to [e-mail] we'd be happy to provide you with the appropriate Tech Data Sheets and SDS.

[@daMillenialTrucker]

You deserve to be rich lol I can't wait for this to start taking the PC gaming world by storm and it has (a little)

[@garytesta2324]

Thanks! We do a lot of high end gaming systems!

[@manucloud]

Alguien está viendo el vídeo después de ver el de Nate con el PC de Ibai?:D

[@hypergrizzly4778]

Imagine its a mineral oil again

[@garytesta2324]

NEVER - None of our products are mineral oil (which is not biogradeable, is toxic to humans, and almost impossible to clean up in the environment) unlike all of our competition that simply resell white oil, mineral oil, or fancy names for mineral oil like GTL (gas to liquid) all of our products are made entirely of synthetic compounds that we react in our facility in Tyler TX. Our products contain no sulfer or phospherous (which all mineral oil products do) as well as being fully biodegradable, non-toxic, and non-allergenic. Our products were designed for day one to be Dielectric Coolants and have the necessary specifications and qualities required to ensure the safe operation of servers, lasers, batteries and other electronic devices for up to 25 years of service! We currently have more than 3.8mln devices operating in our fluids in more than 82 countries around the globe!

[@luapahcor5039]

plot twist once ounce of this fluid cost more than 10 data centers combined

[@garytesta2324]

LOL - You must be talking about the 3M products! And your way off its more like 20x data centers!

[@NuclearLama]

looked it up, that jug was 340$.

[@lvan-MX]

@@garytesta2324 touché