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Can you damage your car by not changing your engine oil on time?
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What if you forget to change your oil on time? Can you damage your car's engine by not changing the oil late? Do you really need to change your oil every 3,000 miles? Obviously, you should change your oil regularly, but exactly how much damage you will cause by changing the oil late? This video looks to answer this question. We'll discuss what happens to oil viscosity as it ages, and what happens to oil additives in over time.
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@MrCalifornia1234
@MrCalifornia1234 4 жыл бұрын
I went 50 miles over, so I just drove backwards before I changed it.
@itsmrangel7667
@itsmrangel7667 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip
@Janni069
@Janni069 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding move
@tiggla01
@tiggla01 4 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of thinking that has made this nation so great!
@randomsanwhich2
@randomsanwhich2 4 жыл бұрын
Does this actually work? asking for a friend
@psnmadracer27
@psnmadracer27 4 жыл бұрын
The old Ferris Bueller method.
@GregSr
@GregSr Жыл бұрын
Years ago I took a class in college on automotive technology. The professor had a PhD in automotive engineering. I learned a lot in that class. The one thing that really stood out is the professor repeatedly making the point that oil is not just a lubricant. It is a coolant. The oil helps limit heat buildup in critical parts of the engine. Not just by lubrication, but by moving heat away from critical parts of the engine.
@JR-zw2vb
@JR-zw2vb 11 ай бұрын
This! This is why my engine got fried and stuck, with no oil! Mechanic said, "I was responsible" to check the oil level every two weeks. It was gaslighting. I had the scheduled regular maintenance with the mech, just 3 weeks prior to getting fried. $3000 price tag for engine swap. Plus tow, plus stranded in hwy etc. The car was regularly and meticulously maintained. But oil got lower in... 3 weeks??? Bummer.
@DeusKDuo
@DeusKDuo 11 ай бұрын
@@JR-zw2vb Yes person should check their oil but eating so much oil it starved the engine in 3 weeks. Something seriously was wrong. I do check my car almost daily i probably lose more oil from wiping the dipstick clean but thats just me being OCD.
@lobsterbisque7567
@lobsterbisque7567 9 ай бұрын
​@@DeusKDuoThat's not OCD. In 2020, I used to be a delivery driver averaging 150+mi./day, and I used my own car('02 camry), and I checked the oil level every morning before starting the car. B/c the camry had to endure so much city driving, I ran a full synthetic, which I changed every 3k mi. And running a flush through the the engine every 5 oil changes. It's been my daily for the last 3yrs, and I left that job 2yrs ago, but It still runs very well, and I still run the High Mileage platinum full synthetic from pennzoil but change the oil every 4k mi. now. And I still check the oil at least once/wk. I love that old camry, and I know it was worth doing all the oil changes myself. Besides, the oil change service was super easy.
@carlovanrijk4039
@carlovanrijk4039 8 ай бұрын
@@lobsterbisque7567that’s a testament to your Camry’s robustness!! About 8 months ago, I bought a 2015 Venza, which is based off the Camry platform, and will serve as my retirement car in a few years. It currently has 105K miles, and runs like a top! I’ve done a couple of oil changes on it, and it doesn’t burn any oil. I plan on babying it and who knows? It may last another 200K-300K miles, that’s how tough the Toyotas are. Kudos to you and your Camry!! 😃👍🏼
@lobsterbisque7567
@lobsterbisque7567 8 ай бұрын
@@carlovanrijk4039 Same to You and Your Venza!
@Eastern_SA
@Eastern_SA 4 жыл бұрын
I’m an engineer by profession and love those engineering videos. Reminds me of college days, 30 years ago❤️
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do work for me on 20 Micron filter media? My decades of experience are all the way back to a heavy steel cannister with cartridge's in it; My experience shows "just replace it often enough"
@dd_ranchtexas4501
@dd_ranchtexas4501 3 жыл бұрын
Bluecamaroz28: Agree. Retired engineer here and it was more like 50 years ago! But since I have my share of Biden Moments now his videos make it seem like I am seeing it all for the first time................
@Wythegoodsense
@Wythegoodsense 2 жыл бұрын
@@dd_ranchtexas4501 I filter biden out most days.
@mz2363
@mz2363 8 ай бұрын
Daymn u old
@MasParaQue
@MasParaQue 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a true story no one is going to read: My ex girlfriend ran her 97 honda civic mb2 almost everyday for over 4 months without oil in the gearbox and waay below the minimum in the engine. One day the second and third gear started making the same noise as the reverse gear does, and first gear wouldn't always click in place. She complained about it and I'm a handy guy so I decided to do the maintenance of her car like a real man. NOTHING had prepared me for the moment I took the drain plugs out just to see *literally* a couple drops of oil from the gearbox, and the equivalent of two cups of water from the engine. Since that day i've got MAD respect for old Honda drivetrains. The car still runs great at the date of this comment with the best quality oils I could find for it .. To this day I have no clue where that oil went .....
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 4 жыл бұрын
maybe they forgot to put the new oil in the last time when they were changing it before to do the maintenance that time so it was never there to begin with hehe
@MasParaQue
@MasParaQue 4 жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 yes. Either that or it was stolen. And I know which theory sounds best 🤣👍
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasParaQue motor oil thieves you got gotta watch out for them they will strip your car bare in a couple of days if you not careful hehehe that's why you should always have a shotgun ready on standby incase they come for your car
@seth_ap148
@seth_ap148 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 97 Civic, for over 2 years I would hit rev limiter numerous times daily, even on a cold engine. Drove it 750 miles a week and abused it every mile I could. Also ran it out of manual trans oil, but it killed the input shaft bearing, so I sold it. Engine still ran perfectly, great cars.
@mister-amazing
@mister-amazing 4 жыл бұрын
Here's one for you I'll never forget- i was a lube tec for 2 years. One late 90s civic came in, running fine. Guy is crowing about how the car is his baby. Pull the drain plug and NOT ONE DROP OF OIL COMES OUT OF THE CRANCASE! Changed the filter, fill up new oil, and he's back on his way.
@wysetech2000
@wysetech2000 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on how much your cars engine is worth to you on how often you change oil. Problem is that the result of neglect will only show up after years of neglect. You can't hurt your engine by changing the oil too often. Well done as always, Jason.
@epedso4417
@epedso4417 Жыл бұрын
Thats how i deal with for me my car engine is like my heart and im always in serach to increse its life and have fun with it whereas i also have a scooter which i dont care about much skipped many service but that thing doesnt break
@Electronica27
@Electronica27 Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how mad I was at my dad once for driving my Corolla nearly 20k miles without an oil change, and doing that for a whole year.
@Tupsuu
@Tupsuu Жыл бұрын
@@Electronica27 we bought a car that had the same oil for 60 000km (37k miles)
@DeepRacer-zr4yp
@DeepRacer-zr4yp Жыл бұрын
@@Tupsuu RIP
@carlovanrijk4039
@carlovanrijk4039 10 ай бұрын
@@Tupsuu😮
@emonvidaly
@emonvidaly 4 жыл бұрын
When I was extremely poor (80$ dollars left for food per mouth) my ford escape went 30,000 miles between oil changes. I've since sold it to my cousin, they put 250,000 miles on and the engine still runs great.
@emonvidaly
@emonvidaly 4 жыл бұрын
@@DashCamSerbia yep. 40 miles per day too. Just so I could keep my job. That allowed me to survive.
@YTANDY100
@YTANDY100 4 жыл бұрын
@@DashCamSerbia he would still have to go to work or he would have no money for anything :-)
@keyworksurfer
@keyworksurfer 4 жыл бұрын
@@DashCamSerbia public transportation doesn't even exist for many people's routes to their jobs
@daniel_960_
@daniel_960_ 4 жыл бұрын
Ауто камере Србија / Dash cams Serbia I guess there isn’t much public transportation in the us.
@truantray
@truantray 4 жыл бұрын
The mythology of engine oil is strong on the internet, especially with all these experts, but engine failure due to oil issues is extremely rare.
@Dcc357
@Dcc357 4 жыл бұрын
"All engines will burn oil." Toyota 3.4 V6 with 300,000 miles: "This man has a sense of humor!"
@billyboy4797
@billyboy4797 3 жыл бұрын
Ford F150 4.9L Inline 6 with 745, 781 km: (burns oil, but still runs)
@Dcc357
@Dcc357 3 жыл бұрын
@@billyboy4797 I do 7500 mile synthetic oil changes in my 2000 Toyota Tacoma 3.4. The engine oil level literally doesn't change by 7500 and there is no sludge/varnishing. Today's oils are insane. My engine only has 140,000 miles though.
@billyboy4797
@billyboy4797 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dcc357 you should get many more years out of your 3.4. Regular oil changes make a big difference. My old truck has had oil changes regularly, even though most is highway miles.
@zizogaucho9035
@zizogaucho9035 3 жыл бұрын
A Nissan 1.6l qg16de 270000km, changing oil every 5000km, not a drop of oil burnt.
@drakeawoken4189
@drakeawoken4189 3 жыл бұрын
civic.... not saying anything else XD
@LimitedGunnerGM
@LimitedGunnerGM 3 жыл бұрын
Most people don’t realize how much oil is lost through the PCV route. Installing a catch can will actually let people see the amount lost while keeping the combustion side cleaner. I was amazed when I installed a catch can.
@MrWilliam.Stewart
@MrWilliam.Stewart 4 жыл бұрын
How can you tell when your subaru is low on oil? When in stops leaking all over your driveway.
@grayghost20000
@grayghost20000 4 жыл бұрын
Lol...😂
@Maverick09171
@Maverick09171 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the answer to “how do you know your suburu is low on oil” is “Yes. “ Between the leaking and the burning. A friends brand new forrester has burned a qt/1k since it was new off the lot. That’s “normal” according to suburu. 🤷‍♂️
@ralphwood5114
@ralphwood5114 4 жыл бұрын
My 93 Legacy hasn't started leaking oil yet at 237,000 miles. The 84 started leaking oil from both head gaskets at a little over 250,000 miles. Paid 200 dollars for an 80 model Subaru unseen. Went to pick it up. The floor was full of empty oil cans. Oil was all over the engine and the fill cap was missing. I got lucky replaced the cap and changed the PCV valve and hose. It wasn't very old then. Took a kid thru college.
@MrWilliam.Stewart
@MrWilliam.Stewart 4 жыл бұрын
@@ralphwood5114 Hello Ralph. I believe the engineers simply forgot to design in the oil leaks on the earlier models. Something about 80s and 90s Japanese build quality. Speaking of which, what ever happened to that?
@ralphwood5114
@ralphwood5114 4 жыл бұрын
I mostly buy old cars. The 84 I bought new. Bought a 2008 Smart car. What a piece of crap. I liked driving it. It was sweating oil when I bought it. It started leaking bad about the time I started having electrical problems and parked it. It was burning out head light bulbs. Voltage seemed OK. Not a do it yourself car. Its a take it to to your Mercedes dealer car. Don't want any more cars that I can't take to any locksmith and have a key made. Its a 5 speed manual. The computer works the clutch and shifting. 150 k miles on it. Not worth much.
@Yellow_Afryca
@Yellow_Afryca 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine you go into Jiffy Lube and this is how it’s explained to you.
@RedfishCarolina
@RedfishCarolina 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to Iffy Lube and ever finding anyone there that actually understood any of this
@oceanceaser44
@oceanceaser44 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to Jiffy Lube
@anthonykaiser974
@anthonykaiser974 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why operator manuals just tell you when by a generally straightforward set of conditions. The average Joe and Josephine just want an easy answer so they can go about their lives. People watching "Engineering Explained" aren't those people.
@R3XYY
@R3XYY 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha best comment. I actually work as a manager at one. Watching this video to actually expand my knowledge in this.
@ianirizarry30
@ianirizarry30 4 жыл бұрын
I was that guy. just didn't have a white board.
@hmandeelful
@hmandeelful 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information and excellent explanation. Note: as a fleet & logistics manager for Pepsi cola, we send the used oil's to a lab for testing to determine the proper oil change intervals for various truck types that we own. As a rule of thumb you can go twice the recommended mileage. Since we run hundreds of trucks and vehicles, the sample is adequate to arrive to a conclusion that is valid within our application, vehicle types, and the type of oils we use (none synthetic).
@LibertyWlk
@LibertyWlk 3 жыл бұрын
All persons talks of mileage but what about time?
@FlyingFun.
@FlyingFun. 2 жыл бұрын
@@LibertyWlk yes, we are low mileage family , our car does 3 to 5 thousand miles per year at most, so we often dont change it every year and never had any problems , we buy 3 year old cars and run them for however long we feel like which is usually 10 years or so.
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 2 жыл бұрын
​@@FlyingFun. It also depends on what type of "low mileage" one has. If all are short trips, these are actually bad for the oil. Cold engine = fuel vapor condense onto cylinder wall & doesn't burn, wipes right into crankcase, dilutes oil, etc... If each trip is reasonably long, just few trips each week, that's probably the best combination for the vehicle...
@FlyingFun.
@FlyingFun. 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallifeengineer7214 I knew short trips were bad but thanks for exact reason why. Commute is about 20 miles and weekly shop just a few miles away. I'll defo keep an eye on the oil. In my previous work I was doing loads of 5 minute journeys with 30 minute between them and oil got pretty black quite quickly.
@chandar4959
@chandar4959 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingFun. best way to go about it is to check your oil every weekend. I've found all other advice too general and now I just check oil every Sunday and going good🤙🏻
@almizzyracing8004
@almizzyracing8004 4 жыл бұрын
Another note... foam inhibitors. Usually in the form of polymethylsiloxane or methyl acrylates, these additives are the most susceptible to additive clash. Different anti-foaming chemistry can be equally effective on their own but cancel each other out if blended. This is usually a problem with aftermarket oil supplements. It's a common problem in racing engines where people are adding ZDDP supplements to a finished API oil to try to boost the wear protection and end up sacrificing the foaming and aeration control in the process. Then when oil temps start to shoot up, pressure drops, and bearings start overheating, cavitating, and spalling, they usually blame everything except their oil regiment.
@legollama88
@legollama88 9 ай бұрын
interesting
@CliffWarren
@CliffWarren 4 жыл бұрын
Reading these comments makes me never want to buy a used car again.
@nc3826
@nc3826 4 жыл бұрын
If you use social media to much, you never want to leave your house....
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 4 жыл бұрын
@Cliff Warren, Lol
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 2002 hyundai minivan. Goes great. Because it was A COMPANY CAR and NEVER MISSED an oil change. That's the secret. My family has had a number of company cars (including my latest ford) and they've all been good JUST BECAUSE they never missed any services.
@hyakinthos_0902
@hyakinthos_0902 4 жыл бұрын
my brother scored a vw passat 2000 mint condition all hope is not lost you just have to be very careful when buying used cars
@Davido50
@Davido50 4 жыл бұрын
We only buy NEW & keep em 10yrs+. Ford trucks F150/250 mostly.. a few Ford SUVs.. Explorer & Escape last few purchases. Both served us very well & tech / features best in class as are powertrains. Fiance loves Escape's 1.5L EcoBoost /AWD. My give my sone current F150 4wd crew & order another new Ranger XLT FX4 crew. We very happy & impressed w/our '19 Ranger XLT FX4 used for business & pleasure.
@logtothebase2
@logtothebase2 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Mondeo and went 1000 miles over the oil change and my girlfriend left me and then half my house fell down a sink hole
@jackd1582
@jackd1582 4 жыл бұрын
It was because you drive a Mondeo
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 4 жыл бұрын
If you had have driven a kia you could have gone 7000 miles over the oil change, killed the engine, gone around telling everyone "it's because kias are crap", and they all would have believed you. But just don't tell anyone that the Kia Sedona used as wheelchair taxis here in Australia got about 660 thousand kilometers because they were maintained.....
@KRIPP548
@KRIPP548 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe she just fell into that sink hole. Feeling better now?
@scottfurlong5475
@scottfurlong5475 4 жыл бұрын
There's yur problem!
@geraldwalsh6489
@geraldwalsh6489 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that for got fired from your not with no compo
@datsuntoyy
@datsuntoyy 4 жыл бұрын
My dad's secretary came in one day and said her car was making a rattling sound under the hood. My dad went out to take a look. He pulled the dipstick, clean. He asked when she had her oil changed last. "Do what now?!" 49k miles never been touched. LOL.
@datsuntoyy
@datsuntoyy 3 жыл бұрын
@Grizzly “smash her”?? Don’t know what the car was. This was over 30 years ago.
@datsuntoyy
@datsuntoyy 3 жыл бұрын
@Grizzly oil wasn't as good then but then engines weren't so sensitive back then either.
@NicholasAndre1
@NicholasAndre1 4 жыл бұрын
If you send your oil off for testing at Blackstone they will run the viscosity and check the additive package, contaminants, and TBN (total base number). This allows you to see how much life you have left in your oil. TLDR you can often run your oil for a lot longer than the specification (the spec is somewhat arbitrary and factors like driving style -- a straight shot across the country on highway alone will often times leave the oil looking and testing like new). That being said, the cost of an oil test can be quite similar to the cost of an oil change.
@nasonguy
@nasonguy Жыл бұрын
Black stone made me about $1000. Long story short, car got totaled. Appraiser said it’s worth next to nothing because of the mileage, saying the motor is shot. We sent the Blackstone report showing it was in great condition. Appraisal came back $1000 higher. Best $45 I ever spent.
@dobber43
@dobber43 11 ай бұрын
@@nasonguy So itll tell you how healthy thew engine in general still is? thats a very good thing to know.
@nasonguy
@nasonguy 11 ай бұрын
@@dobber43 Blackstone analysis will tell you a few things. The contents of the oil (more wear metals is bad, more detergents/dispersants is generally a good thing, etc), and the physical qualities of the oil (is the viscosity still good? Could you have gone with a longer oil change interval, etc).
@darrellborland119
@darrellborland119 8 ай бұрын
@NicholasAndre1...good reply. Blackstone suggested we continue just replacing the filter, suby, and running it to 12K....highway miles mostly. That is double what is supposedly the change interval.
@NicholasAndre1
@NicholasAndre1 8 ай бұрын
@@darrellborland119 yeah especially if you burn a bit of oil and have to top it off half way through synthetic highway mileage should be fine. Although if you have to rotate the tires might be convenient to just do the oil change and have them inspect brakes etc.
@dariusemmanueltherumblegro7240
@dariusemmanueltherumblegro7240 4 жыл бұрын
I always change my engine every four miles instead of adding oil to it like a real man
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
You might give 5 miles a try and see how it works out for you. Could save you some time!
@dingeskraal6237
@dingeskraal6237 4 жыл бұрын
I run my engine a quarter mile at a time
@ras4782
@ras4782 4 жыл бұрын
@@dingeskraal6237 😭😭😭
@_Steven_S
@_Steven_S 4 жыл бұрын
Some epic dedication there 😁
@1linkbelt
@1linkbelt 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Steven_S Cuts down on actual miles driven, car should last forever.,
@crlotero
@crlotero 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Stuff, there is a reason this channel has been around so long.
@capohd28
@capohd28 4 жыл бұрын
I usually change now when recommended, however when I was younger and had little money, I had a 1985 Nissan minitruck. I used synthetic oil, (Mobil 1) and only changed the oil when it went down a quart (liter). That was about every 40,000kms. At around 350,000kms, I had to change a valve cover gasket, and when I took the cover off, I expected to to see a bunch of sludge, but it was clean as a new engine. The compression was also still very high, around 180 psi. I ended up giving it to my ex, and she drove it to 460,000 kms, and then got a newer vehicle, but the engine was still running like a top at even with all that mileage.. The point I am making, is that if you are using a quality oil, especially synthetic, I really don't think that running a couple thousand kms or miles over the recommended interval will make all that much of a difference in the long term.
@moronicvideos
@moronicvideos 4 жыл бұрын
It most likely won't as long as the extra distance is within reasonable limits. Also how it's been run matters.
@michaelwalsh90
@michaelwalsh90 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wonder what kind of driving did you do. Motorway or urban? Probably mostly long drives from the high mileage
@bovellois
@bovellois 4 жыл бұрын
Same experience here, I kept postponing the oil change on a Corolla because the oil remained clear. At 40,000 km it was darker than new but not all that much. Synthetic oil doesn't break down and deteriorate like conventional oil.
@capohd28
@capohd28 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Walsh : I was commuting to Toronto, so it was a mix of highway and.a lot of jammed up stop and go. The worst kind to an engine. 1 hour 40 minutes each way.
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 жыл бұрын
Even much more. Reinforced filter is important.
@johnnydangerously7186
@johnnydangerously7186 2 жыл бұрын
I own a hotshot trucking company and regularly exceed the recommended oil change reminders on my 3500 ram Cummins. Had several go over 500,000 miles through the years and these trucks work hard pulling loads exceeding 20,000 lbs!
@PersonaN007Grata
@PersonaN007Grata 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t really need to change oil if your car leaks so much that you’re adding a quart every week amirite?
@PrimePrius
@PrimePrius 4 жыл бұрын
Need to change your seals at every oil change in that case
@camaroman101
@camaroman101 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@pajdeg2831
@pajdeg2831 4 жыл бұрын
@Dangerous One haha.. yeah probably right, if it doesn't build up some sh*t somewhere then you only have to replace oil filter now n then. I always check oil quality by rubbing a small amount between my fingers. You can feel difference from good vs bad lubrication. The color also shows quite clearly when the fluid is bad (=dark brown/black). No need to send to any lab.
@camaroman101
@camaroman101 4 жыл бұрын
As long as it's synthetic
@n_u001
@n_u001 4 жыл бұрын
still need to in order to change out the contaminants that formed. they don't just disappear with the oil.
@pfsantos007
@pfsantos007 4 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning some of the newer systems on engines like variable valve timing have smaller passages and are more sensitive to oil condition.
@rogerpearson9081
@rogerpearson9081 4 жыл бұрын
They are a lot more particular about the oil weight and condition. Wrong oil or long change intervals will not be good for it.
@mplsfarmer
@mplsfarmer 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. The hydraulic lifters that adjust the valves have tiny holes that need to be filled with oil to function properly. Sludge plugs those holes preventing oil from getting inside. Then you have tapping noise.
@djmjay2
@djmjay2 3 жыл бұрын
And yet manufactures are extending or claiming changes of up too 15k miles. Sounds like a cash cow for the manufactures for repairs.
@dylanholey6314
@dylanholey6314 2 жыл бұрын
@@djmjay2 that’s actually exactly what it is
@d47000
@d47000 2 жыл бұрын
@@djmjay2 You'll notice it's typically the manufacturers that have free maintenance for x number of years that spec these absurd oil change intervals. Take bmw for example, interval used to be around 10k and the year they started doing 3 year free maintenance they upped it to 15k
@johnquinn4417
@johnquinn4417 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2001 Toyota Camry with 300k miles, does not burn a drop of oil. I use cheapest oil, but religiously change it every 3k miles or 3 months. Parked and changes on the same spot on my driveway by myself for the past 10 years. All fluid changes according to the owners manual. I think most issues are either lack of maintenance or neglect. The other 10% is bad luck lol
@ricktharp1
@ricktharp1 Ай бұрын
Smart owner
@joelongjr.5114
@joelongjr.5114 3 жыл бұрын
Most current oils have removed or significantly reduced zinc content, as it raises problems with modern catalytic converters. It is a really important additive for small engines. Some small engine manufacturers like Kohler sell motor oil for their engines with zinc additives.
@jackd1582
@jackd1582 Жыл бұрын
What's the replacement?
@Catalina._
@Catalina._ 4 жыл бұрын
If you forgot to change your oil, just remember it.
@joshl90
@joshl90 4 жыл бұрын
But you remembered that you forgot to remember
@jth_printed_designs
@jth_printed_designs 4 жыл бұрын
if(AboutToForgetToChangeOil) {dont();}
@Chesperino
@Chesperino 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshl90 and then you remember you have to remember something that you couldn't forget and you can't remember what it is *Engine seized up* Oh yeah, it was the oil change, silly me
@MrManuel1329
@MrManuel1329 4 жыл бұрын
World hunger has been solved and poverty has been eradicated.
@sneakyfoz3692
@sneakyfoz3692 4 жыл бұрын
This is genius.
@jackd1582
@jackd1582 4 жыл бұрын
BMW has a plan to have less metal wear contaminates ...... Making more and more of the engine out of plastic 😐😔
@Butterffinger5678
@Butterffinger5678 4 жыл бұрын
Diesel Techie And they keep jacking the price up higher and higher. Cost to fix is higher too. There’s just not much left going for the customer anymore. 😪
@billnopoles1934
@billnopoles1934 4 жыл бұрын
in one movie they said 'Bavarian Money Waster (BMW). HaHa
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 4 жыл бұрын
@@billnopoles1934 it should be Big Money Waster.
@dustinwalker9932
@dustinwalker9932 4 жыл бұрын
my neighbor asked if i could check her oil in her bmw before she left out of state vacation ..popped the hood looked for 5 minutes scratched my head couldnt even find the dipstick. after she left (she was in a hurry) i looked up her car and it doesnt even have a dipstick ...REALLY BMW!!!
@johan.ohgren
@johan.ohgren 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinwalker9932 mercedes have that too. Only digital indicator.
@almizzyracing8004
@almizzyracing8004 4 жыл бұрын
As a note, many additives are also dual purpose. ZDDP (commonly referred to as just "zinc") is an excellent anti-oxidant, especially ZDDP that employs primary alkyl groups. MoDTC, a common friction reducer, also aids in oxidation inhibition as well as helps with wear protection in high concentrations. Unfortunately, both of these are severely limited in modern API oils because of "emissions." CaCO3 and MgCO3, the core of calcium and magnesium based detergents, can also have anti-wear capabilities.
@jamesmartin7282
@jamesmartin7282 3 жыл бұрын
Loved you as Cameron in Ferris Bueller!
@JMRSplatt
@JMRSplatt 3 жыл бұрын
oof
@jonathant211
@jonathant211 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@CorvetteTrev
@CorvetteTrev 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty funny
@christopherhamilton5557
@christopherhamilton5557 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@samuelbuettner1214
@samuelbuettner1214 3 жыл бұрын
He is in his 50s
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 4 жыл бұрын
When I was flying, the adage was “gasoline and oil are the cheapest things you put into an engine”. Bear in mind that a typical Aircraft Engine rebuild is north of $25,000.
@cliffmorgan31
@cliffmorgan31 4 жыл бұрын
Bram Moerman - Yes, true, but that is just a small 4 cylinder motor. Bigger = way bigger bucks... Yes, inflation is everywhere.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 4 жыл бұрын
still cheaper than porsche ;
@ralphwood5114
@ralphwood5114 4 жыл бұрын
Remember about 50 years ago saw some AeroFrantz filters on crop dusters. They were FAA approved and used 2 ply facial quality bathroom tissue. Don't know anything about aircraft engines but know clean oil is better than dirty oil.
@AMScotty
@AMScotty 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the low end. I went to an engine overhaul shop near lunken in Cincinnati and 25k was easily spent on the little 4-cyl lycoming and continental engines.
@ConnorLinley
@ConnorLinley 4 жыл бұрын
I work in an aviation engine shop and can confirm the prices are excessive. To just get a replacement camshaft for a 8 cyl Lycoming 720 costs about $8,000 our price (some markup for customer).
@cmscms123456
@cmscms123456 4 жыл бұрын
In the 1990's Motor Trend magazine did a oil study involving New York City taxi's, vehicles that put a lot of miles on quick, so the results came in quick. They change oil on one set of cabs at 3,000 mile, another set of cabs at 6,000 miles, and then 9,000 miles, and lastly, 12,000 miles. At 100,000 miles they tore these engines down, and found less that 5% wear difference across all examples. Results were clear, oil changes at 3-6,000 miles was a big waste of money. 9-12,000 miles seemed to work just as well.
@robstyles2675
@robstyles2675 4 жыл бұрын
Yea i was gonna say. The high oil changes was made because they wanted to sell more oil. But I've ran cars without oil change for a year and half. I dont let the oil run low of course but I have realized changing oil very early your wasting your oil
@curt248
@curt248 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great study they did. Yes there May be a benefit of changing more often theoretically, but what is the real world effect? If a significant real world affect isn’t seen until 3 million miles, then it doesn’t matter much cause the car has other parts that won’t last that long. Or if the effect is 1mpg then you can see if the cost outweighs the benefit by doing some simple math.
@conorturton
@conorturton 4 жыл бұрын
Here in the EU vehicles are on 10,000+, some as high as 18,000-20,000 and we're getting 150,000-200,000 miles without issue and usually it is the bodywork that fails before the engine.
@anonymousinc6330
@anonymousinc6330 4 жыл бұрын
@@conorturton 10,000 km is roughly 6,250 mi, so more or less the same.
@teovm
@teovm 4 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousinc6330 they ment 10 000 miles. Otherwise here it starts from 15 000km to 30 000km. From 12 to 24 months whatever goes first. This depends on manufacturers, models, model year, etc.
@fernandocavuto1449
@fernandocavuto1449 4 жыл бұрын
You can have your oil analyzed and decide if your oil change intervals are adequate. I use synthetic oil and change the oil every 10k or so. My car has 227k, and the engine is running just fine.
@chrisbraid2907
@chrisbraid2907 3 жыл бұрын
Oil schedules are set for people who load their engines when they drive. Low load long runs are some of the best driving you can do for your engine. Short runs and stopping in between are quite a bit harder on the engine and performance driving even more again. I worry less about my wife’s Yaris service wise than I have any previous vehicle she has owned. Working out the length to which you can run your oil without changing requires an understanding of the load that the car is under most frequently and the general wear factors. If you can then you won’t panic at passing the set change time/distance between ….
@arthursmith643
@arthursmith643 4 жыл бұрын
Jason is a great teacher. Never boring. I never yohn when I listen to him. Great videos nice clear voice and no crappy music in the background.
@boomer1954ful
@boomer1954ful 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna debate a small point w/ you. A ‘Great’ teacher makes the un-understandable - understandable. I opened this video simply wanting to know IF it’s the miles driven? Or the length of time in the engine? We have a low-mileage F150 that hasn’t had the oil changed in 2 years because it sits a lot in the garage. There’s only 950 miles on last oil change. But it’s been sitting in there over 2 years.... OK, so I got a LOT OF INFO from a Master’s level auto genius. In fact, TMI ! And I guess I generally get that it’s bad to run old, dirty oil - and that it hurts an engine. But I didn’t get my simple question answered in a simple understandable way.
@johnfranklin5277
@johnfranklin5277 3 жыл бұрын
@@boomer1954ful 67 years old and your just now trying to figure this out?? . I'm 62, and have known since my early 20s, if you don't drive it much, change it once a year.
@HeavyMetalPianoChnl
@HeavyMetalPianoChnl 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have oil for breakfast from now on. Gotta get those antioxidants!
@Juice-jx1pr
@Juice-jx1pr 4 жыл бұрын
Pomegranate oil
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 4 жыл бұрын
Olive oil has antioxidants. Much safer than car engine oil too.
@heyRex
@heyRex 4 жыл бұрын
It also makes great lawn fertilizer!
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 4 жыл бұрын
Carcinogens*
@xponen
@xponen 4 жыл бұрын
anti-oxidant in plastic as well otherwise it root the instant it sees sunlight.
@johnettipio
@johnettipio Жыл бұрын
As a 4.7 Jeep owner, the thought of a late oil change is frightening. They really are great engines but, they are picky about any sludge in the oil.
@miked5106
@miked5106 4 жыл бұрын
Here's another tip, if u are prone to forget then use synthetic, it will last twice as long and gives u a buffer if u forget.
@michaelbenoit248
@michaelbenoit248 2 жыл бұрын
Or just write the date, & millage on ur oil filter or on the old oil filter tab. Or just set ur oil change intervals lower so if u forget ur ok. At work we have customers goin way over the oil change interval, & for some we just set the sticker to 3k instead of the 6k that I usually set it too cuz it’s abt right. Over 6k regardless for an oil change is wrong. Idk if you drive a dsl truck that holds 2-5gallons of oil. U still need to change it every 5-6k or more often if u are working ur truck hard at max all the time.
@dhalsim-1
@dhalsim-1 Жыл бұрын
I used synthetic and Bruce buffer never showed
@rushiljain9423
@rushiljain9423 Жыл бұрын
I used synthetic the last time I got oil changed, but now I am nearly 800 kms over the mileage the mechanic recommended another oil change. Does this put the engine in a hard place?
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 Жыл бұрын
@@rushiljain9423 when the oil looks/smells dirty you should change it, whether it is synthetic or not
@Sam-hj5ok
@Sam-hj5ok 4 жыл бұрын
You look like the perfect combination of a mature man and a 20 year old intern
@Kuhlyedascope69
@Kuhlyedascope69 4 жыл бұрын
dude how old is he hes another one he looks young and old
@Originalman144
@Originalman144 4 жыл бұрын
Fresh Avocado A younger looking Beto O’Rourke
@castorchua
@castorchua 4 жыл бұрын
You sound creepy
@BossItUp911
@BossItUp911 4 жыл бұрын
The mind of a 35 year old man with the arm muscles of a 15 year old girl.
@STG44musikmeister
@STG44musikmeister 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching him since the early days of KZbin. We were saying the same thing back then.
@glennabarry1261
@glennabarry1261 4 жыл бұрын
I have always doubled the oil change recommendations and never had an issue on any vehicle I have had .
@olasek7972
@olasek7972 4 жыл бұрын
Glenna Barry I never had issue with my vehicles by sticking to manufacturer’s recommendation of oil change and I am not polluting environment by doing unnecessary oil changes.
@stephensmith2027
@stephensmith2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@olasek7972 if I am reading the comment correctly doubled means two times i.e. if the manufacturer says 5,000 miles he goes 10,000 miles. But I agree, my motorcycle has oil change intervals of 7,500 miles and some folks change every 3,000 and it is so unnecessary.
@olasek7972
@olasek7972 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Smith you could be right, “double” could have two different meanings here, now I am not even sure what he meant.
@Slaktrax
@Slaktrax Жыл бұрын
The key to engine longevity is frequent oil and filter changes, ...even more frequently if used for city driving and start/stop operation. Low mileage engines used for short city driving will have more internal wear than a high miles engine only used on highways/long distance journeys.
@raybin6873
@raybin6873 4 жыл бұрын
I change oil every 3,000 mi - Walmart SuperTech non-synthetic plain jane motor oil - Bosch filters - got 482,000 mi service out of last vehicle before valve guide seals leak - got 524,000 mi out of Chevy pickup before rebuilding it - using same Walmart oil. Just changing oil on schedule is key to good vehicle service life. My costs per oil change is $18 - 20....😁👍🇺🇸
@davidevilla9051
@davidevilla9051 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video as usual! I manage the oil analysis for a company that sells lubricants (hydraulic, gear, engine, etc), and I have to say that especially for customers who have many trucks or tractors is extremely useful to perform analisys (it is also valid for other kind of equipment), cause you can avoid to change the lubricant too early or too late, saving money and time, and it happened also to find contaminants that indicate an incombent failure of a specific component, and reporting it, customer can prevent major damages to the equipment.
@patrickcandler1330
@patrickcandler1330 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! You should so do a video like this on automatic transmission fluid. I rather enjoy ur videos! And I like that u drive a subi!
@daveybernard1056
@daveybernard1056 4 жыл бұрын
Especially, a video on the new auto transmissions which have "lifetime" fluid and no dipstick (Toyota Tacoma, looking at U). He could do a great job on how to change and check the fluid levels in these "sealed" boxes.
@nickfizzle1234
@nickfizzle1234 4 жыл бұрын
What a tool liking someone because they drive the same car as you
@daveybernard1056
@daveybernard1056 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickfizzle1234 Liberal?
@patrickcandler1330
@patrickcandler1330 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickfizzle1234 oh super smart guy! Cuz I've never owned a Subaru... I was merely making a statement in regards to somebody doing mechanics in physics explanations and he drives a boxer motor. Sorry I know alot of people that watch this channel are smart... Why people watch the videos in the first place. To learn. So that may have went way over some people heads.
@chloedegurechaff1941
@chloedegurechaff1941 4 жыл бұрын
Davey Bernard its no different than a manual trans really. Drop the pan to drain. And then there will be a fill bolt somewhere on top or the side along with a level check bolt. Bam job done. “Lifetime” fluid is a weird term. If the trans lasts 30k or 300k ok itself fluid it still was lifetime. That was the tran’s life.
@fungames24
@fungames24 2 жыл бұрын
I did not forget to change oil. I wanted to test these oil change claims, and so I did not change oil for 10 years on a lightly driven car. Nothing happened. I like the testing so much, I am testing on more cars.
@highwiredaysgigdriver9417
@highwiredaysgigdriver9417 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 70's 80's money being tight my dad pounded the message" budget for your car and never be late with your oil changes..."or else!".... I did not want to get to "or else!"....😲
@HMCarReviews
@HMCarReviews 4 жыл бұрын
I changed mine every 12 months. I typically drive my car about 4000 miles during that time. Preventative maintenance.
@andrecarreon9940
@andrecarreon9940 Жыл бұрын
What oil do you use? 5w30, 15w40?
@Chief_5
@Chief_5 4 жыл бұрын
Girlfriend didn’t change her oil for 30,000 miles, it took $400.00 to fix due to sludge and a couple of other repairs which was about what the oil changes would’ve cost. 🤪
@heath6499
@heath6499 3 жыл бұрын
No way sludge can be removed with some Trans fluid in the engine oil for 9 dollars. They ripped your ass off
@UNSC011001
@UNSC011001 3 жыл бұрын
I used amsoil oil & filter & changed it once a year in a '06 ram starting at 22k miles. 13yrs & 130k miles later, it only "used" oil through a front timing cover leak & previously through a valve cover leak that was repaired at 65k miles. Never had any mechanical problems.
@StackXBT
@StackXBT 2 жыл бұрын
Amsoil is legit the best
@Vanguardkl
@Vanguardkl 3 жыл бұрын
My 2010 Kia 2.0 has been on fully syn Shell 5w40 helix ultra from Day 1, now at 240000km still clean running with zero leaks.. Zero topup needed, i change the oil every 9 months or 15000km and the used oil comes out clean. Manufacturer recommendation Is every 10000km 6 months. I'm in tropical Malaysia
@willmalliotis9341
@willmalliotis9341 4 жыл бұрын
I just drive my car extremely hard once a week, usually on a Friday to get rid of carbon buildup. It’s a awesome way to keep that engine healthy. Just make sure you check your oil levels once a month to make sure they’re not low.
@ananth218Canada
@ananth218Canada 4 жыл бұрын
it doesnt need to be driven extremely hard. as long as u drive on the highway sometimes... good enough
@willowandluka5302
@willowandluka5302 4 жыл бұрын
Officer: “you know why I pulled you over?” Me: “Sorry sir, just tryna keep my engine healthy”
@willmalliotis9341
@willmalliotis9341 4 жыл бұрын
Josh S Granny shifting not double clutching like you should
@grumpy_0ld_man
@grumpy_0ld_man 4 жыл бұрын
@@willmalliotis9341 please tell me you're not double clutching in a gearbox with synchros...
@StratophonicDubstep
@StratophonicDubstep 4 жыл бұрын
Wojtek K it’s a reference from the Fast and Furious movie
@keithdubose2150
@keithdubose2150 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you are 'abusing' the oil (high temps for example) it's more important to change filters and keep the oil level up. Yes oxidized oil should be changed, but today's high quality synthetic oils hold up really well to typical driving. More often than not, oil still capable of protecting an engine is drained out and replaced. Would be interested in seeing actual oil analysis at recommended oil change intervals
@jeffclark5024
@jeffclark5024 4 жыл бұрын
Customer: I need an oil change, my oil change light is coming on again when I go around corners and hit the brakes hard. Me 🙄
@Salech2001
@Salech2001 4 жыл бұрын
Is that low oil? Or am i taking this wrong?
@jeffclark5024
@jeffclark5024 4 жыл бұрын
Potatoe Salech yes potato that’s low oil
@jacobmullins3644
@jacobmullins3644 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffclark5024 or it the oil presser sensor didn't read
@mezgatotlan
@mezgatotlan 3 жыл бұрын
That's how my friend used to check his oil on his Dodge Stealth. Needles to say, he had to replace the engine. He had better luck with a Nissan Maxima. But he still used his method. Car went 300k.
@drakeawoken4189
@drakeawoken4189 3 жыл бұрын
i was changing my engine in my 03 civic, i had a blown connecting rod, so right before doing the job, i redlined it to have fun and eventually the oil light came on, when it did i stoped and checked the oil, their was none left, then i made research, on civics, it only turns on when theirs only but a few drops left
@misterandersson5645
@misterandersson5645 4 жыл бұрын
I don't forget to change oil, I just don't want to do it. After 15 years I thought I'd change the oil in my old Buick, didn't notice any difference. But interesting video any way, I like how thorough you explain every subject.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 4 жыл бұрын
talk about how ridiculous manufacturers recommendation to keep the ZF 6 speed pan sealed and never change the atf is
@DzastinasLTL
@DzastinasLTL 4 жыл бұрын
Well, this is a big discussion topic, but keep in mind transmissions are not internal combustion engines (ICE) and the oil inside the transmission does not "work" anywhere near as hard as ICE oil under daily-driven conditions. Also, changing ATF of a high--mileage auto trans can actually lead to undrivable car due to the clutches being worn out to a point where the old ATF has more clutch material in it to keep sufficient "grip" than the clutches themselves and so by changing/flushing ATF you are now removing this clutch material suspended in the old ATF also, thus rendering the transmission to slip.
@apexseal2811
@apexseal2811 4 жыл бұрын
Austin That is completely BS. No oil lasts forever (unless manufacturers consider "lifetime" as 100,000mi, and then you must replace your transmission). My father had a C280/C300 2008 (W204) Mercedes-Benz with the 7G-Tronic transmission. When these were first introduced, MB said ATF lasted forever, hence they didn't include any drain plug nor oil dipstick. Later on they begin to notice some transmission wear due to lack of lubrication (oil breaking down), and SUGGESTED the ATF to be replaced every 60,000mi or 5 years if I'm not mistaken. When we took the car to an independent MB shop (the vehicle was dealer services for its entire 10 years of life until then) for a regular service + ATF and filter replacement, the mechanic said that when he removed the oil pan it already smelled funky, and there was no guarantee the transmission would function properly (because, with old oil, the pump works at a lower pressure due to clogging and possibly causing shifting delays although ATF was changed). Transmission flush is NOT recommended in these cases, as the previous comment stated. Car appeared to run perfectly fine then, but was finally sold some while ago.
@ldever3
@ldever3 4 жыл бұрын
@@apexseal2811 Never trust a dealer.
@mr.h5436
@mr.h5436 4 жыл бұрын
@@DzastinasLTL wow!
@abdulazeez.98
@abdulazeez.98 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2019 kia forte, in the manual it says the ATF is lifelong. But there was an asterisk at the end of that sentence, in the footer of that page it says "assuming ideal conditions" or something like that. In case of "severe driving conditions" (I don't know exactly what that means) the ATF should be replaced every *60,000 km!* otherwise the warranty won't cover the damage. The lifelong ATF is basically B.S.
@davinp
@davinp 4 жыл бұрын
A mechanic in Houston, TX posted a video of what an engine looks like when the oil hasn't been changed. Back in the late '90s and early 2000s, Toyota did have a problem of oil sludge. This is another important reason to change your oil regularly. If you have low mileage - driving your car less then 5000 miles a year, then changing your oil once a year will suffice.
@jaypioh
@jaypioh 9 ай бұрын
I have a 1998 Explorer that I drive about 1,000-2,000mi per year and only change my oil once in each year. Seems to be ok but considering how my timing chain cassettes were already going out I couldn't tell if I was hurting the motor or not....
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 жыл бұрын
Bought a 5 year old car once as a beater. Never changed the oil once in 4 years and then sold it. The car ran perfectly the entire time. I now do oil changes every couple of years with synth. Intervals are overstated.
@JeffreyMillswa6cej
@JeffreyMillswa6cej 4 жыл бұрын
Engineering aside. I once worked at a body shop, bought a totaled Dodge with a 318 V8 @ 18K miles on it. Used it as the shop car. When it needed oil I drained some from the next car going to the crusher. I never changed the filter and NEVER changed the oil. I sold that car years later with 136k miles. Still ran perfectly 👌
@tscook10
@tscook10 4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, my previous understanding, and experience with diesel engine oil (specifically Rotella), was that the breakdown of viscosity modifiers was a much more important factor in oil degradation than oxidation, at least on time scales relevant to automotive oil changes. I used to do engine testing and have oil samples analyzed every 20 hours of operation or so. We would see substantial decreases in viscosity over the first couple hundred hours, IIRC. At which point it would level out rather a bit lower than the oil's spec'd viscosity. Sure if you put 30k miles on the oil you would expect to see oxidation thickening, but I don't know that that's all that important if you skipped one oil change. And that's the issue, low viscosity is generally a more immediate concern than high viscosity, as this reduces film thicknesses, causing heat, causing lower viscosity, causing reduced film thickness... causing metal-metal contact.
@jason.arthur.taylor
@jason.arthur.taylor 2 жыл бұрын
yeah jason is full of it.
@BradMosch_engineer
@BradMosch_engineer 4 жыл бұрын
I use used oil to light my BBQ grill. Gives my burgers an unique flavor that I like (adds carbon and iron). I live for the day (probably not many left). ;-)
@ghshrksidhc5460
@ghshrksidhc5460 4 жыл бұрын
This made me feel uncomfortable in a new way.
@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847
@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847 4 жыл бұрын
I ran a test on my 5.3 gm, mobile 1 5w30 full synthetic lasted 3,000 miles before I began to notice excessive fuel and oil consumption. I am saving money by changing it every 3,000 miles vs. 4 & 5,000 miles. As between 3 & 4,000 my fuel economy dropped from 19 to 17 mpg, and between 4 & 5,000 it dropped down to 14-15. Thats around 10% or 100 miles of 1,000 miles and then 25% or 250 miles ... Totaling 350 miles or 18 gallons (I rounded down)of waisted fuel x 2.29.. so roughly $40 Not to mention the 3 quarts of oil I added to it to keep it topped off at $8 a piece. 40 +24 =$64 The oil change costed me about $50 when I do it myself. I save $14 and prolonged the life of my engine. KEEP IT CLEAN AND KEEP IT FULL.
@twinentryturbo
@twinentryturbo 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like a manufacture problem as well if that is happening.
@lalljp
@lalljp 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on aftermarket air filters like K&N and AFE. A lot of people are convinced that even with lower surface area and bigger pores to make up for it, they still filter just as well as OEM paper filters.
@warriormanmaxx8991
@warriormanmaxx8991 Жыл бұрын
Why does Jason have to do all the work making videos? Are you not already convinced which are the best oil filters?
@ElectricGeckos
@ElectricGeckos 4 жыл бұрын
You have taught me more than my dad has in the past 22 years. I found out about your channel two weeks ago. I love these types of videos.
@brandondaniels9471
@brandondaniels9471 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly I'm in the same position. I only know some of the basics about a car, but I feel like I know way more than my father lol
@MrMotorNerd
@MrMotorNerd 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe just hangout , shutup and listen and your Dad may feel like telling you !
@ElectricGeckos
@ElectricGeckos 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMotorNerd He told me change it every so many miles, when I asked him why, he would say because I said so. Engineering Explained goes into more detail, which I like.
@abdulazeez.98
@abdulazeez.98 4 жыл бұрын
Please can you do a similar video on ATF? especially the "lifelong ATF" issues with new transmissions.
@clutchfreak13
@clutchfreak13 4 жыл бұрын
"Lifelong" is the term car manufacturer uses until warranty period is over, around 100k km, or 5 years, what comes first. After "lifelong" it's up to you what u want to do... I know for sure that DSG trans need oil change every 60k km, and old "wandler" torque converter is around 100k km.
@Blanchy10
@Blanchy10 4 жыл бұрын
My Australian Ford has a sealed for life Auto. Currently got 500,000 kms and runs smoothly never touched.
@saauuzza
@saauuzza 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blanchy10 highway miles.
@videos-for-friends
@videos-for-friends Жыл бұрын
Here’s one for y’all; I work as a lube tech. We had a 2019 Subaru Crosstrek come in that was 24,000 overdue!!! Lower bay pulled the bolt and just said “yeah that ain’t good.” I peeked my head down to see the jet black (imagine used up diesel oil then up the viscosity by x2) oil flowing incredibly slowly and that’s with cap, filter, and dipstick removed
@hauweiguy9587
@hauweiguy9587 4 жыл бұрын
if i understood correctly he said "poor point depressants" at 9:16. When i moved from a hot to colder climate, my car would barely get out of the driveway without being warmed up for 10mins. It actually belongs to my father who barely changed the oil and used the cheapest available. When I changed the oil myself it was a horrible black sludge and it obviously didnt contain those poor point depressants. With new oil it didnt need 10mins of warming up and performance was also much better.
@ricky5176
@ricky5176 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone agrees with me that every engine burns oil. Thank you .
@ricky5176
@ricky5176 4 жыл бұрын
@pyropulse lol ya bet.
@ToyotaNutjob
@ToyotaNutjob 4 жыл бұрын
Not true at all. My toyota burns zero oil at all.
@TAPriceCTR
@TAPriceCTR 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and there is uranium in seawater.
@XxThePlaylistxX
@XxThePlaylistxX 4 жыл бұрын
All engines burn oil but on my toyota, it's so little that I dont see any visible difference on the dipstick between oil changes.
@JayDee-xj9lu
@JayDee-xj9lu 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToyotaNutjob It's just being topped up by unburned fuel. If you run a car on LPG your oil level goes down because it's gas. Another curiosity, why do Americans call it gas when it's a liquid? In Australia we call it petrol.
@lexdelaney2805
@lexdelaney2805 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, started adding Vitaminwater XXX to my oil. My car runs great with all the extra antioxidants!
@rshettle123
@rshettle123 Жыл бұрын
I would say, the worst thing you can do is letting it go low, not checking the level periodically and adding what may have been lost from whatever. There are many vehicle owners out there with no concept and who don't even think about the oil in their engines, let alone checking it or watching KZbin videos such as this. It's one of the most common neglected preventive maintenance items.
@billville111
@billville111 4 жыл бұрын
I know a girl who had 90,000 miles on her Honda CRX that she bought new. Still had the break in oil in it when she asked me to sell it for her. I said no.
@danield8528
@danield8528 4 жыл бұрын
HOLD UP WHAT?? How did that CRX Survive??
@ghshrksidhc5460
@ghshrksidhc5460 4 жыл бұрын
Dodged a bullet there King.
@trizkial7592
@trizkial7592 3 жыл бұрын
My god the way people treat cars and complain about problems 🤬🤬🤬
@danield8528
@danield8528 3 жыл бұрын
@BT DT I met a dude who owned a 1985 CRX. The man has been driving it ever since it came out and it's basically the only one left where I live. It's stock, but he kept it in beautiful condition.
@BossItUp911
@BossItUp911 3 жыл бұрын
well to be fair, that crappy CRX d-series motor should be swapped out anyway. It's not worth an oil change.
@pagophilus
@pagophilus 4 жыл бұрын
Went about 2000km over my scheduled oil change interval (15000km) due to mechanics being booked out leading up to xmas and then closed for 2 weeks, just as I had overseas visitors and had to do a lot of driving. The engine was noticeably louder during idle as well as under load, and when the oil was changed, the quietness then uncovered diff noise (diff oil not changed in 93000km). Significant noise reduction now that the diff oil has been changed, however I wouldn't have said the car was noisy before. The change in sound just creeps up on you.
@MB7_7
@MB7_7 4 жыл бұрын
I gave my mom back her car once I got mine, and I explicitly said "hey the oil needs changing soon make sure that gets done!" That was in the summer. It didn't get changed till I did it myself in November 😭 there was almost no oil left in there
@itsm3th3b33
@itsm3th3b33 4 жыл бұрын
You're a lousy son. After borrowing HER car, the least you should have done is to change the oil for her. Maybe a car wash too.
@ldever3
@ldever3 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsm3th3b33 It wasn't due to be changed yet. That's why he said soon.
@itsm3th3b33
@itsm3th3b33 4 жыл бұрын
Lowell Dever You're guessing. If it wasn't due in the summer, changing 3 months later or in Nov shouldn't be an issue. The point is he should be ashamed of himself for not changing it for her after "borrowing" her car.
@ryans413
@ryans413 4 жыл бұрын
J Y It’s not his car Yea he used it for a bit but it’s not his responsibility to get his moms cars oil changed.
@ldever3
@ldever3 4 жыл бұрын
J Y Am I guessing? Yes, but so are you. From your one guess you want to define a person you don’t know. Maybe you are right, but probably not.
@gregfaris6959
@gregfaris6959 4 жыл бұрын
U.S. military did a study in the 1990’s, across several thousand vehicles. Half received oil changes every 3000 miles, while the other half never received an oil change. Through the useful life of the vehicles (100,000 miles) there was no discernable performance or longevity advantage for the vehicles having received the oil changes. In fact, the “un maintained “ vehicles outperformed the maintained vehicles, though the difference was not considered significant either way.
@AhmadDanHamidu
@AhmadDanHamidu 3 жыл бұрын
Understanding this video has inspired my question which is: Why don't car engine makers include a ''pre-lubing"/"lube-priming" kind of process where a person turns the ignition key from position-zero through to position-two (battery online) and is prompted by a "lube-protection-system" to "please wait, pre-lubing or lube-priming" in progress, and depending on car make, the person would see a graphic progress bar or clock countdown insicating when it's ok to turn the key to position-three to crank the engine to a start? This process would use electric power from the battery of the car (it may be as much power as used by the starter motor to crank the enginento a start) to power an electric oil pump to pre-spray/pre-circulate just eniugh oil around the engine to coat those sensitive moving parts that are exposed to dryness that welcomes wear during start-ups...before the starter motor is cleared to crank the engine to a start. This idea of mine is inspired by the pre-heating glow wire in diesel engines which must be allowed to get hot enough to warm the air entering the ready-to-fire cylinder...like we all know, this is a must-do process on cars with diesel engines and I thought it would be great for petrol/gasoline engines to have the pre-lubing/pre-oiling/pre-spraying feature. I'm aware that something like this would unfortunately increase complexity, parts-counts, weight and costs to the car featuring the system, but I'm tempted to think that in the long run, start-up wear could be reduced super-significantly. What do you think?
@boblafountaine9560
@boblafountaine9560 3 жыл бұрын
Hell, I think you really have something there! Get the blueprints going. Makes perfect sense.
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 3 жыл бұрын
Or they just could do engines like Toyota does.
@simpleinverso8628
@simpleinverso8628 3 жыл бұрын
I simply love the idiots saying "well, I've never changed my oil and it still runs strong" Their cars may still work, but their brains certainly don't!
@jimmy5634
@jimmy5634 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, they seem to have saved a lot of money. Maybe their brains work better than yours.😝
@recoveringnewyorker2243
@recoveringnewyorker2243 4 жыл бұрын
Most people are on the WIGATI (when I get around to it) maintenance program!
@HR-wd6cw
@HR-wd6cw 3 жыл бұрын
While many people are advised to change their oil every 5-6k, even if you went to 7.5k you're probably OK as long as the oil is topped off and you're using a synthetic blend. In fact, many newer cars (made in the last 10 years) supposedly claim you can go 10,000 miles between changes, although I personally still stick with every 5,000 miles or 6 months, whichever occurs first. But it's not the end of the world if you go over by about 2-3k in most cases. The only time it might is if your engine is worn and leaking/burning a lot of oil and it runs low or gets excessively dirty.
@ronwise37
@ronwise37 9 ай бұрын
I had a 2001 VW TDI that had 10k mile drain intervals. That made me nervous at first but it was running perfectly at 310k when the timing belt broke. I had the oil analyzed several times at change time and it always came back with plenty of life left. My new Tiguan also has a 10k mile drain interval and I don't feel concerned at all about following their recommendations as long as I'm using the properly spec'd oil.
@captnjim44smith74
@captnjim44smith74 3 жыл бұрын
Just consider how some trucking companies and me do oil service; use the best synthetic and change the filter at 8k and top off when necessary. You do a good job for those who do not know.
@TURST67
@TURST67 4 жыл бұрын
The question I often ask myself is, why some engines need an oil change very often? My 04 WRX needs an oil change every 8000km, which is quite "often" compared to some other cars, even a random Subaru dealership I once had on the phone to buy oil filters thought I was wrong about the oil change period, they told me something like "haha noooo, you don't need to change oil every 8000km, just do it once a year"… Whithout even caring if I was doing 20000km or 4000km each year… So amateur.
@Scouter98
@Scouter98 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the driving style of WRX/STI owners id say 5000 km maximum.
@TURST67
@TURST67 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scouter98 Haha, I'm not one of them, I drive quite normally and it isn't modded btw.
@JoshuaHowley
@JoshuaHowley 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 WRX as well with 322000 miles (518208 kilometers). I change my oil between 12k miles and 15k miles, and change my filter about every 6k miles. Still runs great and is fun to drive.
@abdullahhamadeh
@abdullahhamadeh 4 жыл бұрын
every oil company has different styles not engine
@littleAE86thatcould
@littleAE86thatcould 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaHowley *thanos* "impossible"
@cobra454tim
@cobra454tim 4 жыл бұрын
Jason I would like to have you talk about the new line of. Engine oil coming out for Di engines that the SAE is testing
@almizzyracing8004
@almizzyracing8004 4 жыл бұрын
Those oils have been out for many years. There's nothing trick to it. Calcium and sodium based additives increase low speed pre-ignition (LSPI) in DI engines so oils formulated with DI engines in mind (API SN Plus rating and/or Dexos 1 Gen 2 rating) have no sodium detergents, less calcium detergents, and (typically) more magnesium detergents since magnesium is found to be LSPI neutral. Other than that, the formulas aren't much different.
@himher9073
@himher9073 3 жыл бұрын
I once worked in a materials lab with a clued up motorcycle racer. He did routine oil tests on his Suzuki. After two year of close monitoring he optimised his oil changes to 3000km less than the recommended 10k changes, and replaced his plugs every 5000km. The oil got contaminated by zinc and magnesium beyond 7300km intervals, going exponential at 9500km. Oil brand didn’t make much difference, but synthetic oils showed wet plate clutch contamination (I.e. wear) within 1000km. I had the same model bike: after thrashing it for a decade, using his maintenance schedule. The motor at 570k km still ran sweet, smooth from idle to its rev limit at 13600 rpm with zero rebuilds. Then the bike was stolen and stripped for parts. Five years later I found my engine in another bike still running sweet. Most bikes engines are junk at 300k, so I was very happy with my colleagues advice. But, in off years when injury prevented riding I never bothered changing the oil, I just kept to the 7000km interval. Not bad really for a wet clutch plate bike frequently ridden at its limits averaging 10500 rpm, with frequent clutch less gear changes, and occasionally turfed on its side onto the tarmac with the unloaded engine screaming. Get your oil and plug change intervals optimised and kiss goodbye to engine repairs. Note manufacturer intervals are a compromise between worst case use, and the manufacturers desire to sell you a new engine.
@gcraig0001
@gcraig0001 3 жыл бұрын
Because we now have so many people driving vehicles but never reading owner manuals or understanding the importance of maintenance, many/most manufacturers have oil change reminders built in to their electronics. The vehicle will tell you by way of a tone and message on your instrument panel display every time you start the vehicle. The actual mileage when the reminder activates varies based on factors such as the type of driving done as well as the miles. Drive a lot of highway miles, you can go longer between changes. Do mostly stop and go driving, your reminder will activate at a lower number of miles. This is all tracked by the powertrain control module (PCM) as well as other computers in the vehicle. So if the average recommended oil change interval is 7500 miles for instance, your reminder could activate at 5000 miles, 7500 miles, 10000 miles, or even higher. Or you could do like me and just change the oil every 5000 miles. As an old retired automotive engineer, I have a lot of first hand experience with this subject. My opinion is use a top quality synthetic oil and don't try to stretch the miles between changes. Your engine will thank you and reward you with many extra miles before it bites the dust.
@CarSceneKorea
@CarSceneKorea 4 жыл бұрын
If ur burning oil, its not a big deal Compared to no oil to burn 🤔 (true story)
@raychang8648
@raychang8648 4 жыл бұрын
You can put a pipe on your crankcase vent and pretend you have dual exhaust!
@Deusstyles
@Deusstyles 4 жыл бұрын
That 2 stroke life.
@daveyt4802
@daveyt4802 4 жыл бұрын
Or leaking it. Keep adding and never have to change it.
@zlac
@zlac 4 жыл бұрын
My oil is balsamic, I just keep adding more... :-D
@mickjager5974
@mickjager5974 4 жыл бұрын
Could mean your driving a steam engine.
@kairumitokisaki3163
@kairumitokisaki3163 4 жыл бұрын
I just went on a vacation and rent a car the fully synthetic 0w20 have became like 90w140 oil and it's so black the last services was 11000km and now it's 41000km supposed to change every 10000km and I ain't complaining as it isn't my car. Thanks for the information Jason. Love your videos.
@ClemOnShow
@ClemOnShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the details. It would have been nice to also cover : 1 the influence of short trips vs long trip on oil wear . 2 an example of lab results for both scenarios. 3 the chemical differences BTW mineral and synthetic. Thanks for the thorough videos !
@nyplantingsgardendesigners5645
@nyplantingsgardendesigners5645 Жыл бұрын
You can find these in field studies from various companies. Motor oil studies have been performed for decades.
@Ddog72
@Ddog72 11 ай бұрын
an example of lab results for both scenarios... Theres a few videos on this. On a microscopic level, its not as doom and gloom as the video claims, the oils tested were fine upto 15,000 miles. Only then were trace metals found.
@ThorneyedWT
@ThorneyedWT 10 ай бұрын
​@@Ddog72trace metals means engine is already on its way out.
@nevergiveupinlife7438
@nevergiveupinlife7438 8 ай бұрын
🤣
@TheWilferch
@TheWilferch 3 жыл бұрын
Pointed question--> multi-viscosity oils are all we use now....and Viscosity Improvers (VI's) are used in the mix to get us there. Also....oil (itself) does not "wear-out"....only the VI's do. So.....it was therefore recommended that multi-viscosity oils with low weight ratios.. ( say....10W-30...a 3:1 weight ratio from the *base* stock 10 weight ....to 30)...use LESS Viscosity improvers than the later 5W-30 oils (6:1 ratio). So the argument goes....the 10W-30 is more forgiving of late oil changes (say every 5000 miles).....than the 5W-30, because it has less VI content to wear out, with less chance that you are ending up with only the core 10 weight oil that it started out with, before the VI's were added that get you to 30 weight. Comments from anyone deep into this topic ?........
@Taydrum
@Taydrum 4 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, the winter SAE number on the oil is not the cold viscosity, but rather the flow characteristics in cold weather. A 5w-30 oil flows like a 5w oil when cold, but may have a higher viscosity than 30
@regierse
@regierse 4 жыл бұрын
I went over the recommended limit by ~500 km on my last 2 oil changes and I was fully expecting Jason to say that my car is basically broken now lol.
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 3 жыл бұрын
Far from it you can go quite a ways beyond recommended ~ just do not let it get low → this is an ideal product; I use it with above excellent result;
@ralphwood8818
@ralphwood8818 Жыл бұрын
I stipped draining il in 1963 using oil filters that clean oil and adding new makeup oil at filter changes. I use the Jackmaster Classic the Motor Guard and the Gulf Coast filters. I am using Super Tech 20.000 mile oil. Never cared much what the oil changers recommend.
@rshettle123
@rshettle123 Жыл бұрын
The single most important factor with any oil is its film strength, that which protects against metal to metal contact or shear, anti wear additived. Synthetic base stocks alone only give you a higher resistance to temperature breakdown, which of course is good in itself.
@anangelshero0410
@anangelshero0410 4 ай бұрын
I found this video really "judge-y", and all I came for was the "what to do" part. Get my oil analyzed...got it. In the Army we'd send samples out on a schedule and only change the oil when the lab told us to. Reality is the intervals depend on a lot of things that may or may not exist. If you missed one oil change it's not the end of the world.
@kris.monroe
@kris.monroe 4 жыл бұрын
A good friend of mine, for years, didn't changer her oil - just added more, keeping it topped off but did occasionally change the filter.. Blew my mind and now I offer to change their oil regularly. XD
@kstricl
@kstricl 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old truck with a tired chevy 350. The oil self renews like that every 3-5k miles. I can literally just change the filter every 6 months. 😂
@LachskoenigIV
@LachskoenigIV 4 жыл бұрын
What if I told you I did the same on my first car for 4 years and ~60 000km?
@pd925
@pd925 4 жыл бұрын
"ICE engines" is like saying "VIN number"
@hugostiglitz8378
@hugostiglitz8378 4 жыл бұрын
Paul D or ATM machines.
@MotoCat91
@MotoCat91 4 жыл бұрын
While true, I often give it a pass when the acronym + redundancy is still less syllables and easy to understand eg: ICE engine is faster than saying internal combustion engine, VIN number is faster than Vehicle Identification Number etc And many people won't immediately know that ICE is referring to an engine type unless they've been watching for a while or are very familiar with the language so saying engine afterward helps with that.
@cccEngineer
@cccEngineer 4 жыл бұрын
I say VI-Number lol.
@MaurizioOiziruam
@MaurizioOiziruam 4 жыл бұрын
or LCD display
@austinshoupe3003
@austinshoupe3003 4 жыл бұрын
Technically correct. However, the redundancy flows better with the redundancy in many cases.
@Nocturnalzyx
@Nocturnalzyx 4 ай бұрын
I saw an oil analysis that claimed a guy’s “spirited driving” BNW had really impressive results at a 7500 mile interval (after an initial 10,000 mile interval) and even encouraged him to experiment with another 10,000 mile interval.
@TheYehat
@TheYehat 4 жыл бұрын
No matter of the many comments simply ignorant, but engine oil is complex matter and VERY important - not only the interval, but the actual oil. And no - not all are equal. Will be very helpful if we see a dedicated lecture on that topic. Thanks.
@Jigsaw407
@Jigsaw407 3 жыл бұрын
"Metal on Metal Interaction" sounds like an awesome band name.
@boomer1954ful
@boomer1954ful 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@PJWey
@PJWey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this helped. I suggest a subtitle: "Why you're thinking about getting an EV"
@anon9019
@anon9019 4 жыл бұрын
people who think EVs dont need maintenance should take the bus or stay away from the road
@MrVelociraptor75
@MrVelociraptor75 4 жыл бұрын
@@anon9019 They need considerably LESS maintenance, but yes, not none.
@enjoyingend1939
@enjoyingend1939 8 ай бұрын
I generally tend to aim for 4000 mile oil changes, because my car is a 30 year old machine with nearly 200k miles on the odometer and i want to make life as easy as possible for my little engine.
@ThePolerbearproducts
@ThePolerbearproducts 2 жыл бұрын
My sister's 16 Chrysler Town and Country once went 10,000 Miles on Conventional Oil before I changed it. Wasn't as horrible as I thought it was gonna be, There was a lot of blowby as it reeked of Gas and it was brown but there weren't any head gasket leak symptoms. It's up for changing in a few weeks I'm definitely gonna send a sample to Blackstone labs to make sure nothing bad happened.
@johannkuhn5685
@johannkuhn5685 4 жыл бұрын
Intersting video. But why didn't you mention oil age? Not all cars see a lot of use, and it's commonly known/believed that oil must be changed at least once a year (contaminants breaking it down?).
@ianwilliams487
@ianwilliams487 4 жыл бұрын
Yep..very true,,Stopped working ,the old ute just trips to the shop,,never really got to operating temp..Lucky to do 5000 ks in 2 year,,left oil too long and now i have a tappet rattle, Even though i had been very good with service,,the fuel by-pass the pistons, when cold did the damage,,Never got to a temp where this fuel would re-burn through PCV, Hence one noisy V8 on start up,,Does go away but damage is done,,and a costly repair,,VY ute 5.7 , 6 speed ,LSD,, less than 170k ks on it,,
@tacbear
@tacbear 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Mustang GT with 25K $$$ in modifications that goes about 2000 miles a year. I change the oil every 5000 miles (Mobil 1). This means the oil gets changed every 2.5 years...IT RUNS LIKE A TOP!!!!
@ianwilliams487
@ianwilliams487 4 жыл бұрын
@@tacbear ,Does your engine get to operating temp every time you run it, well mine don't,and depending on piston make and configuration these facts change, so I feel you have been very lucky,,so far, Don't like Mobil 1 ,,as they have cut back zinc additives,,so no good for my flat tappet cam,,,and adding smoo to this great oil only stuffs it,,
@Deuuuce
@Deuuuce 3 жыл бұрын
Depends how old the oil is. If it isn't badly used, it can sit for THREE years and still have good results from a Blackstone Labs oil analysis.
@FerralVideo
@FerralVideo 3 жыл бұрын
I was curious about this myself. '06 Prius, maybe 5k a year. My commute is only 2 miles, and I know that this is bad for an engine, so I usually commute by bicycle. Usually also visit my folks once a week, so a nice 20 minute trip across town to get everything warmed up.
@redguard153
@redguard153 4 жыл бұрын
I got some pretty strange looks when I brought my Tesla into the shop for an oil change and all they could find under the hood was the wiper fluid fill port.
@Bob_Lob_Law
@Bob_Lob_Law 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like they would get pissed for you wasting their time, but it also sounds quite hilarious. They should EVs dont have oil.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 4 жыл бұрын
Then they got the last laugh the next time you used your windshield washers and sprayed oil on your windshield...
@bohicajohnson7203
@bohicajohnson7203 4 жыл бұрын
Who did change the oil in the transmission?
@finnishfatman
@finnishfatman 4 жыл бұрын
Hope they changed those electric wire fluids. If you forget to do that in time, it'll cause all kinds of problems with electricity starting to flow too slow and getting too hot, so you'll risk exploding your blinkers!... which need their fluids changed regularly as well!
@beetleything1864
@beetleything1864 4 жыл бұрын
coulda changed your rubber wind up band that makes it go.......
@txmoney
@txmoney 3 жыл бұрын
Change the oil/filter early! If your vehicle has an oil change interval indicator, change it long before the maintenance reminder turns on. And you should change the oil/filter even sooner the older the vehicle gets. My 2018 Civic EX-T has an indicator that tracks the viscosity. The oil indicator adjusts the change interval based on usage (short trips and city driving requires sooner oil changes) rather than just mileage. But generally, it requires an oil/filter change every 5,500 miles using synthetic 0W-20. I change it when the indicator hits 30% or earlier (roughly, every 4,200 miles). I plan on keeping my Civic for well over 250,000 miles.
@Otto45
@Otto45 3 жыл бұрын
This triggers my OCD being a motorcycle junkie! I usually always change my engine oil after every 950 KM & never really had any issues with sludge or carbon deposits. Its kinda overkill but, better earlier then later LOL
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