Electric Summer Tires - Can You Really Have It All?

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Why Everyone Should Run Summer Tires - Even Electric Cars!
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Summer tires are the performance option for enthusiasts who want the most out of their cars. These tires offer more grip, better steering feel, and better handling - not to mention better stopping distance rain or shine. But does all that grip come at a compromise? Electric vehicles need tires with low rolling resistance to maximize range, and often, rolling resistance is at odds with grip. In this video we’ll deep dive into Hankook’s iON evo tire, a summer tire offered for both electric cars and electric SUVs, to maximize warm weather performance without a big loss in rolling resistance or noise levels.
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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
KEEP UP THE SEXY TIRE CONTENT 😍😍 Edit, I've actually tested this tyre vs the IC version, it was a fun experiment
@jacobvriesema6633
@jacobvriesema6633 Жыл бұрын
And what were the results?
@TheKornfeld
@TheKornfeld Жыл бұрын
A link to the results would be great!
@therabidsquirrelsage3388
@therabidsquirrelsage3388 Жыл бұрын
That's right Jason, I never use anything but high performance summer tires.
@SniperReady
@SniperReady Жыл бұрын
Because our hot boy summer is a high performance summer
@JakkiPi
@JakkiPi Жыл бұрын
EV stock tires are trash. Noisy, rough and wears out faster. Rolling resistance takes away from regenerative braking so I've seen no significant difference in range. EV tires are more expensive for less performance and safety.
@brentlanyon4654
@brentlanyon4654 Жыл бұрын
Just please don't drive in the snow! ;) I've pulled many a "4wd" out of snow banks because they came stock with summer tires (Bimmers, Audi's, STi's, etc.) and the owner's didn't realize they turn into hockey pucks on cold and snowy roads.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын
@@brentlanyon4654 Way too many people think "4wd" means they're invincible in snow and ice and they don't have to worry about their tires or their driving habits. F around and find out.
@cedricboivin9422
@cedricboivin9422 Жыл бұрын
​@@JakkiPi"Rolling resistance take away from regenerative braking" How about no?
@jcat96
@jcat96 Жыл бұрын
What i'd love to see is a difference of these EV Summer tires versus a "regular" summer, both on an ICE car. Since the tires are made for heavier GVWR, are they more or less likely to grip on a lighter ICE vehicle, and how would that impact fuel efficiency?
@CerberusTenshi
@CerberusTenshi Жыл бұрын
Tyrereviews made a video about that already
@KhanJoltrane
@KhanJoltrane Жыл бұрын
@@CerberusTenshilink
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
@@KhanJoltrane I did it on an EV not a IC vehicle
@androiduberalles
@androiduberalles Жыл бұрын
@@CerberusTenshi Only thing is, those videos contain almost no scientific evidence. At least, most of the ones I've watched.
@jeffpicken5057
@jeffpicken5057 Жыл бұрын
Why? They're not made for ICE vehicles. Why wouldn't you buy tires for your vehicle, rather than buying a really good tire for an EV?
@sueneilson896
@sueneilson896 Жыл бұрын
Good to see the Hankook company getting some recognition here. Have been very happy in recent years with their products. Good tyres at a good price. Companies like Hankook have to work harder than the older recognised brands to compete, and us consumers win.
@TerryPullen
@TerryPullen Жыл бұрын
This is the best comercial I've ever watched. Informative and fun to watch.
@RolandGustafsson
@RolandGustafsson Жыл бұрын
It would be handy to compare against the benchmark Michelin Pilot Sport 4s
@Solo-gx2xc
@Solo-gx2xc Жыл бұрын
I would love to see that too. I have 4s on my Tesla. They are great. Curious about these tires too
@Car_Tism
@Car_Tism Жыл бұрын
Also on the 4S NO Spec on my Tesla since the TO specs are so hard to find… then I switch over to the Alpin PA4 in the winter. It’s gonna be real hard convincing me to move away from that combo - works so well even on an EV
@kevincorpetti1379
@kevincorpetti1379 Жыл бұрын
Love to see Jason enjoying everything he does, from explaining engineering, to driving. Hopeful 😊
@soloyoujo
@soloyoujo Жыл бұрын
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan... Tires are cool! You singlehandedly have made me be more careful about the tires on my car, not because of performance, but for safety.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it! I gave a presentation for a tire company a while back to an audience of parents, and we went around the room talking about the tires we had on our cars. One person mentioned they had four *different* tires on their car! Ahhhh! Different levels of grip at each corner certainly is not ideal. You won't regret paying for a good tire the first time you need it.
@soloyoujo
@soloyoujo Жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Yeah! My tires are still pretty new from the previous owner, and I haven't had to change them yet, but when time comes I'll be sure to do some research and buy good ones, even if I have to pay extra. Stopping distance and wet grip only need to fail you once to ruin your life, so better safe than sorry.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын
@@soloyoujo Worst thing is stopping distance and wet grip only need to fail once from somebody else's poor choices to ruin someone else's life. :(
@soloyoujo
@soloyoujo Жыл бұрын
@@mjc0961 Yep. That's true too.
@brentlanyon4654
@brentlanyon4654 Жыл бұрын
"My never worked a day in my life hands". GOLD
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Жыл бұрын
Glad someone heard it haha 😉
@AutistCat
@AutistCat Жыл бұрын
I live in Iceland and I spend the money to change over to summer tires for the 4-5 months a year I can safely use them. The car drives so much better, totally worth it.
@hibob841
@hibob841 Ай бұрын
Great info as always! I am embarrassed to admit, I had no idea that summer tires were the best option in the rain! I have always run all-seasons even though my car basically never sees temperatures below 40º, only because I assumed summer tires would be _bad_ in the rain. Now I know. Thanks!
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Жыл бұрын
One of the great luxuries I could wish for is the room to store and rotate a set of summer/winter tires and wheels. Until then as nice as these tires are the best single tire is a good quality all terrain.
@vaughanh2905
@vaughanh2905 Жыл бұрын
30 more miles!! That is going to give my gen 1 Leaf nearly 50% more range..... sold. 😊
@bradenmchenry995
@bradenmchenry995 Жыл бұрын
Don’t ask for your money back when it gives you 3 miles of range
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Жыл бұрын
Haha, we were assuming 200 miles driven (see math at 11:00). (I can read sarcasm but many here cannot 😉).
@seb.
@seb. Жыл бұрын
Imagine on ebikes 😂
@whidzee
@whidzee Жыл бұрын
great video. I'd love to see you compare the different noise levels of a bunch of tyres. i'd be interested to find out which are the quietest ones.
@frollard
@frollard Жыл бұрын
Very informative. I am down to consider these when I need a new set of not-winters. It's pushing it in my climate, as we often see snow in may-september so usually the 'all season' is best for summer.
@Hells_Gate
@Hells_Gate Жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, love your videos. Just an idea for a video..... the advantages and/or disadvantages of using EV tires on a combustion vehicle. The EV tires sound so great you would want to use them on a conventional performance car as well. I think stiff walls might be one of the biggest things involved. Im not sure if you have covered this in another video though, I do watch most of your vids when I can. Thanks
@berto1014
@berto1014 Жыл бұрын
EVs are heavier because of the batteries. You want a tire that's designed for the weight of your car. I think going too stiff with an EV tire on an ICE car would degrade the ride quality and potentially reduce grip because the contact wont be as full due to the lesser weight than they were designed for.
@kraymond2771
@kraymond2771 Жыл бұрын
the noise cancelling foam also useless on ICE vehicle.
@ed_goblin
@ed_goblin Жыл бұрын
I think he made a video like this a while ago. I'm not sure, but you can check.
@MaxCohagen
@MaxCohagen Жыл бұрын
@@berto1014 i guess the question is, whats the weight of the questionable ice car, and how the ev tires designed. i mean, ev-s are around 1700-2300kg (so their tires should be designed for that weight), but there are LOT of AWD ice cars from 1600kg to 2000kg..... MAY BE there is some loss traction if you put thet EV tyre to a 1200-1300 kg ice veichle....because the wall will be to stiff.
@JelmervanderMeer7
@JelmervanderMeer7 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the emphasis on low rolling resistance for EV tires, wouldn’t you want low rolling resistance for regular cars too? Seems you should get similar benefits
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын
Q: wouldn’t you want low rolling resistance for regular cars too? A: yes, they've existed for years as part of helping OEM's meet fuel economy and meeting ever stricter emissions standards. understandably if you have little or no association with the Automotive Sector...? you will likely have little to no knowledge of this and might misinterpret this as happening for the FIRST TIME (which it isn't). naturally in terms of the newness of EV's, there's a lot more FOCUS and HYPE surrounding efficiency, with the "larger endgame" being to sell you something and thus SEPARATE you from your money (which it does).
@LooneyFarmGuy
@LooneyFarmGuy Жыл бұрын
An Excellent, in depth but easy to understand explanation ! Top notch 👍😎
@GuyIncognito1
@GuyIncognito1 9 ай бұрын
Top Ramen
@toninocars
@toninocars Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and explanation. As always well done job 👌👍
@theodoreshasta7846
@theodoreshasta7846 Жыл бұрын
Very clear and informative. Well done, and thank you!
@vincecarlo
@vincecarlo Жыл бұрын
Used Hankook S1 Evo 1, 2 n 3, V12 evo n Evo2, RS2, RSS Z211 and Dynapro I can Attest Hankook provides Value for $$ with Good Grip esp in Wet
@the_red_key8825
@the_red_key8825 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting these tires for my Taycan, but they dont yet have the right sizes for it. Hopefully they will by the time my next set are needed. Thanks for the great and informative video!
@scott4207
@scott4207 Жыл бұрын
Love the video, my only counter arguement to that would be the price. Is 30 ‘potential’ miles range a greater saving that I’m assuming this premium price per tyre would be? I would assume not. However, great video, very educational! 👌🏼
@extra-dry
@extra-dry Жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video on how GM does the cylinder shutdown? My last two Corvettes could run on 4 cylinders when just cruising, to greatly increase fuel milage. I always wondered if they somehow were able to keep the exhaust valves open in the deactivated cylinder to avoid unwanted compression. Also wondered if they shift which 4 cylinders they chose to avoid uneven wear. What ever they do,it works flawlessly and increases mpg to 34-35 on long trips. Pretty good for 495hp high performance car.
@antibrevity
@antibrevity Жыл бұрын
You may be perfectly okay with it, but I can't help but feel pain when I see you slalom with a Model S yoke. I wince with every over-the-shoulder shot ;).
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Жыл бұрын
I'm with you, it was awful for autocross! Multiple times I was fumbling with it because there was no wheel where I needed wheel.
@mdlonghorns
@mdlonghorns Жыл бұрын
Heysohn! Good to see you my good sir. Glad to see your tires still have plenty of tread.
@jakewatkins1116
@jakewatkins1116 Жыл бұрын
Tires are so important, I wish everyone knew how important quality tires are, not just for weekends in the canyons but for everyday driving to help keep you safe and comfortable (and those around you safe)
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын
Especially snow/winter tires for the winter. "Sorry I crashed into you I lost control of my car because I was running nearly bald summer tires in a snowstorm" 😡😡😡😡😡😡
@jeffpicken5057
@jeffpicken5057 Жыл бұрын
Sincere question: how many accidents are the result of poor choice of tire or poorly worn tires? My guess is a pretty low percentage. I'm not saying selecting the right tire isn't important, just saying it's probably not important enough to buy the highest quality, most expensive tires on the market. Where's the crossover?
@jakewatkins1116
@jakewatkins1116 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffpicken5057 that is a really good question, I'm sure some accidents would be prevented by people having slightly better condition tires, but other accidents would need even better condition tires and so on. I'm not sure where the data for this kind of thing would be though
@arog7493
@arog7493 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffpicken5057 I imagine the answer would be entirely based on what environment you were to drive in. If it's snowy conditions I imagine poor choice of tire is very important and has stopped plenty of accidents. I know I have been saved by my winter tires a good few times to say the least.
@jeffpicken5057
@jeffpicken5057 Жыл бұрын
@@arog7493 for sure! But the question is, ‘of all the accidents that occur, how many are BECAUSE of bad tires?’
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy viewing your videos about tires, and this is one of my favorites! Keep up the great work! 🍩🍩
@brady783
@brady783 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous B roll scenery. I get to look at that mountain everyday.
@joseluislopes3956
@joseluislopes3956 Ай бұрын
Been using Hankook tyres since I got my 330e. Came equipped with the S1 evo3 and the confort and traction were top notch. Would've tried the iON line but the available dimensions are limited and not available for my wheels - hopefully they expanded in ~60000km till I need new ones
@alexluke84
@alexluke84 Жыл бұрын
I have Sailun tyres...very good and not expensive 😎
@kid3764
@kid3764 Жыл бұрын
Great Explanation. I may now open my own tire manufacturing plant.. Excellent presentation 👏 👌
@BlackhawkPilot
@BlackhawkPilot Жыл бұрын
Problem is that I want more range in winter when range is depleted by lower temperatures. In summer the 20%-30% more range makes the additional range on a tire is negligible.
@nealewalter
@nealewalter Жыл бұрын
Southern Ohio. I run summer tires in the summer. I’m originally from Canada and used to winter tires. I replaced my winters with Cross Climate 2 all weather which I believe is way better for the sometime rain, sometimes snow here in the winter.
@dailycruise8550
@dailycruise8550 9 ай бұрын
I will say that if I had the money would love to be able to run summer tires and winter tires but since tires are so expensive I cannot. With that being said I have the All-season Hankook Ion Evo tires on my EV and so far they are amazing. Couldn’t ask for a more comfortable and quiet ride.
@geemy9675
@geemy9675 Жыл бұрын
best of both world would be a tire that becomes more grippy when you load it with cornering, accelerating or braking, but wouldn't deform much and be efficient under light load when crusing at constant speed. maybe a tire with only the center of tire touching the ground and being much harder, efficient and wear resistant but when you accelerate, decelerate, corner, the mass transfer on rear, front or side tires would make the sticky part of the tire touch and provide more grip
@JRCarReviews
@JRCarReviews 10 ай бұрын
I just looked up this tire (Hankook iON evo) unfortuently it doesn't have triple A rating for 235/45/R18 it has BAA 69 dB grading for my Tesla Model 3, while B is for dry. This is disapointing! Tesla now fits Michelin E-Primacy on new Higland which has grading ABB 70 dB. But that tire is very bad at wet conditions.
@frank3722
@frank3722 Жыл бұрын
I would love for you to do a video on when will we reach the limits of performance of an SUV vs a coupe or sedan. Does ground clearance impose a limit, all things being equal (gas SUV vs gas coupe or EV SUV vs EV coupe). Those larger tires and higher ground clearance must have a performance limitation in acceleration or turning/handling.
@answeris4217
@answeris4217 Жыл бұрын
When I was a tire technician I learned way more about tires than I really needed. My boss would send me to tire seminars... Yeah tire companies have seminars to brag about their tire compound... We use coconut shells...we use silica to grip ice...we have triple Kevlar belts with steel belts... And of course when installing tires all day everyday you could see which ones were better quality. Some tires would just never balance properly others wouldn't be round out you needed to double the "safe" psi when installing to seat the tires properly. One thing is for certain no seminar ever told me if their tired was bad... always that they were the best
@extragoode
@extragoode Жыл бұрын
So which ones did you see that were particularly good or bad? Name names/models
@answeris4217
@answeris4217 Жыл бұрын
@@extragoode all tire manufacturers have good and bad tires. That's the reality. And I haven't installed a tire in over 20 years now. I had a friend die from a tire explosion and I had 4 when I installed tires... all were different manufacturers with different defects. For the most part budgets tires are just that and expensive tires have a reason to be expensive. The sales staff at a designated tire store will usually avoid showing you the bad tires completely unless it's the only option or you egg them for the lowest possible price
@abunova2718
@abunova2718 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I learned a lot and will be ordering a set of Hankook e-ion tyres for my Leaf here in the Caribbean 👍🏻
@PalpatinesPlumber
@PalpatinesPlumber Жыл бұрын
Everyone who lives in an area that has - 0 Cecius or below for more than a month in a year, should have a set of summer tires and a set of winter tires instead of a compromised all season tire.
@Patrick-bu5vy
@Patrick-bu5vy Жыл бұрын
Great upload....there is so much tech that goes into a good tire these days it's amazing. Wondering if you could do a similar review of the Toyo Celsius All Weather tire - which claims year-round usability but better winter performance than All Season tires, plus a 60,000 mile wear rating. How would they achieve this on a mountain snowflake rated tire, especially in light of your comments on compound softness here?
@MrBenHaynes
@MrBenHaynes Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting content. Thank You.
@sogerc1
@sogerc1 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love summer tyres. For the lower noise and increased braking performance.
@briangschaefer7048
@briangschaefer7048 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! That was so interesting and informative. Thank you :)
@wompa70
@wompa70 Жыл бұрын
Engineering, physics, and chemistry class all at once. Great video!
@brentlanyon4654
@brentlanyon4654 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a Model 3 and this is news I can use. Thank you for this video! Hankook is likely going to get a sale as a result. ;)
@andrewt9204
@andrewt9204 Жыл бұрын
Living in MN, I can't use these without changing them out every season, which is kind of a pain. Unless I buy a second set of rims I can swap them myself. I would love to be able to use a high wear rating summer tire for 365 day use. One of several downsides to living in a cold climate. I just changed my worn OEM MXM4's to Pirelli P Zero's. They are a little mushier and have a bit of a more hollow sound, but overall I like them for all seasons. Will have to see how they do in the winter for final judgement. They're also ~$50 cheaper per tire and have a slightly higher wear rating. Efficiency seems about the same as the MXM4's.
@cparks872
@cparks872 Жыл бұрын
Buy a set of steel wheels and chuck winter tires on them. You can swap them out yourself pretty quickly, and you keep the salt and crud off of your nicer alloy wheels. Sure the steel wheels aren't pretty but your nice wheels will stay nice.
@brentlanyon4654
@brentlanyon4654 Жыл бұрын
Depending on your vehicle, you may be able to find a user's forum where people sell there used rims for cheap, or do a "group buy" on lots of sets which gets you a discount. That's what I did with my WRX - bought a set of spare stock rims for $200 off some dude and put the summer tires on that, and Nokian winter tires on the other set. That car had a viscous center differential making it critical that you rotate the tires, which for my mileage worked out to be about 6 months. I'd just mark the rims with duct tape and sharpie to know where to put them next season. This does require storage for an extra set of wheels and tires, though.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын
@@cparks872 Yup, then the only problem is if you can easily change the TPMS codes your car is looking for or not. **glares at Toyota**
@cathlive267
@cathlive267 Жыл бұрын
A high wear rated summer tire is worse than some ll seasons lol. At that point you are much better off with a performance all season like the continental dws06. Seriously, epic all seasons in snow and still pretty damn good in the summer too. Oh and theyre cheap ;)
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth Жыл бұрын
If you are paying a shop to swap tires on your rims, that's 4 tirrs twice per year, or eight swaps. With two sets of tires you'll probably get four or five years, maybe more, so you are looking at 40 tire mounting charges in all. Buying a second of rims is usually cheaper, unless you drive something exotic. And junkyards sell "guaranteed as new" OEM wheels often for $75 each.
@brentgregory1359
@brentgregory1359 8 ай бұрын
Another awesome vid Jason 👏 We are told that tire rotation is very important. But is it? Are we better off rotating tires and replacing them 4 at a time ... or just run them as is, and replace the driven 2 when worn out? Have you ever done the numbers on this Jason?
@dewaynehowse231
@dewaynehowse231 Жыл бұрын
Hankook is a very impressive tire manufacturer. The Ventus S2 evo2 has a decibel rating of 69. I can confirm that these tires are night and day quiet, as compared to Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires on a BMW 428ix sedan.
@matsoupanos2411
@matsoupanos2411 9 ай бұрын
I want grip as cc2 not decibel …hankook not
@dewaynehowse231
@dewaynehowse231 8 ай бұрын
@matsoupanos2411 Being a quiet tire doesn't equate to poor grip.
@matsoupanos2411
@matsoupanos2411 8 ай бұрын
@@dewaynehowse231 after 27000 km is dangerous when it’s wet
@commanderdante3185
@commanderdante3185 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you deserve all your success many tmes over.
@stevezielonko1386
@stevezielonko1386 Жыл бұрын
The Subaru dealer didn't want to install some nice snows i bought for my wrx because the speed rating wasn't high enough. I told them i never drive over 108mph on the ice so don't worry.
@specialopsdave
@specialopsdave Жыл бұрын
I can't really use summers where I live since the nightly lows in my climate never rise above 36°F (~2°C). However, it is nice to have all-seasons in surprise autumn snowstorms, so even if I could, I wouldn't run summers. If I ever move to Florida, California, or Arizona, that will change.
@bellamyste
@bellamyste Жыл бұрын
Is there any reason an “ev” tire could not be used on a regular gas car? If not, why?
@the_zanny
@the_zanny Жыл бұрын
The easiest way I could think to explain it is because an "EV Tyre" is designed to hold a much heavier vehicle (due to the fact EV's have hundereds of pounds worth of batteries) compared to a an ICE car which would be a lot lighter. If you put EV tyres on a normal ICE car then your grip and thus performance and safety would be compromised, sort of a similar idea to overinflating your tyres.
@dewaynehowse231
@dewaynehowse231 Жыл бұрын
@@the_zanny unless you have a fairly heavy ICE car. There are some chunkers out there.
@Solo-gx2xc
@Solo-gx2xc Жыл бұрын
Is it better than Michelin Pilot Sport 4s? I got a M3P might try Hankook next summer.
@Uprzejmy17
@Uprzejmy17 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for slightly offtopic question. I have an SUV (I know, sorry, but you need 1mph in Austin to exit any parking lot in Austin without hitting the ground while in sedan..). Why dealers only offer all-season tires options for SUVs? If you use the car only in the city where snow falls ONCE every three year for one day and everything stops for this reason anyways, the summer tires would make more sense for reasons mentioned in this video. It feels wrong to go to the dealer and do all the explanations as to why you dare to go for other than default tire selection
@yackemup
@yackemup Жыл бұрын
Question- if this is suppose to improve milage of an EV can you out them on a ICE car and will it benefit from it? I mean it's a AAA tire and better than 99.999% of the tires out there, why wouldn't you want to use it on your daily?
@ballistic02
@ballistic02 Жыл бұрын
The title of this video made me think you were about to talk about electrified tires themselves, somehow.. I was like f*** 2023 is getting REALLY weird and extra...
@hlk5887
@hlk5887 Жыл бұрын
Even without electrified tires 2023 is really weird and getting weirder...
@ballistic02
@ballistic02 Жыл бұрын
@@hlk5887 this was my point lol..
@JRCarReviews
@JRCarReviews Жыл бұрын
Would you rather get Michelin that came with M3 or this? Thanks!
@jordanlee9353
@jordanlee9353 Жыл бұрын
What do you actually think about the tires? Did you notice any increase in range? I’m having trouble finding actual reviews. Also… a question for the Hankook reps, when will these things be available on tire rack. I drive a taycan and would be interested in trying these out.
@rubberlegs
@rubberlegs Жыл бұрын
On our 2006 Prius, the difference between an "eco" tire and just any old tire was 10% on gas mileage. At the time, I didn't know there were better tires for gas mileage, and was pretty shocked at the difference.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 Жыл бұрын
You won't get any criticism here from Jason. These videos are little more than advertisements. I don't much like seeing really good KZbinrs compromise their independence like this.
@MrDrProfessorVader
@MrDrProfessorVader Жыл бұрын
Also very interested, disappointed to only see the AS tires in the market for now. My P zero PZ4 elect set is on its last legs.
@tanawatkrubb
@tanawatkrubb Жыл бұрын
Yayyyy, new clip from EE!!
@luciandinovici8860
@luciandinovici8860 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jason. I had an interesting discussion with some friends around the question "Why is quick acceleration less energy efficient than slow acceleration?"...on both electric and ICE vehicles. For example, if you are supposed to travel 1 mile, why is it more efficient to accelerate to 60mph in 10 seconds and than cruise for the rest of the mile versus accelerating to 60mph in 5 seconds and than cruise for the rest of the mile? You are basically moving the same mass over the same distance. I had this question in my mind for some time now and I could not find a pleasing answer researching on the Internet. Of course, the simple answer is: "more energy/fuel is transformed into heat, as more pressure is applied to the mechanical parts", but why? and how? and to what point it differs from ICE to electric vehicles? I would love to see a video where you try to explain the principles of physics that could answer this questions. I'm a big fan of this channel BTW. Thank you for the content you are creating here.
@GuyIncognito1
@GuyIncognito1 9 ай бұрын
ThEn
@PeterHolmgren
@PeterHolmgren Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would like to see a video about the new Prius - engine effeciency, drag and rolling resistance and a video with a comparison of Tesla Model Y and Toyota Rav4 plug in hybrid regarding effeciency.
@JupiterMan12.000
@JupiterMan12.000 Жыл бұрын
What I love about Summer Tires is that they Withstand High Speed!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂.
@ytxstream
@ytxstream Жыл бұрын
It's so weird that apparently people in the US don't use summer/winter tyres by default.
@dewaynehowse231
@dewaynehowse231 Жыл бұрын
That's true people don't buy summer tires in the US because of economic reasons. We are very superficial about tires and look at warranty mileage as our main grading criteria. Price per mileage, it's a marketing plan created by tire stores.
@jacobvriesema6633
@jacobvriesema6633 Жыл бұрын
Many in the US don’t need winter tires apart from those more in the north. I’ve personally used summer/winter tire combo as well as all-season and did not notice anything different. MPG on my civic was the same. The all seasons did fine in the winter for the driving I needed - never slipped. Buying an extra set of rims was expensive.
@cathlive267
@cathlive267 Жыл бұрын
Stiff SIDEWALL compound but the tread area is a soft compound. That's why soft summer tires wear faster than all seasons.
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 5 ай бұрын
I just wonder if different profiles are available, I'd assume a round profile similar to a ATV tire would be better for cars with swing axle suspension but contact patch is definitely sacrificed there.
@pc8134
@pc8134 11 ай бұрын
Tell you what, my Tesla has had nothing but horrible luck with the Pirellis (punctures, flats, worn out after 3000 miles) it came with, and then even much worse luck with the Continental DWS 06. Even though the DWS 06 is a 104W tire, I believe it can not handle the weight of the Tesla or the way it puts down power. Way too much sidewall flex. I am eagerly waiting for the Hankook iON evo AS SUV to be available in my size.
@GhostRyderFPV
@GhostRyderFPV Жыл бұрын
My assumption, that summer tires would be soft, sticky gumballs in comparison to all-seasons has been nuked. But isn't EE's explanation contrary to what Formula 1's own tire (tyre, sorry) naming conventions suggest? They use the term Soft to define the stickiest shortest-lived rubber, and Hard to define the least sticky, longest wearing compound?
@bruncebanani8854
@bruncebanani8854 Жыл бұрын
There are limits to everything. A softer compound is usually more grippy... unless it's too soft. In the range of compunds they use in motorsport, the softest one is usually the grippiest. If they used even softer ones, this would not necessarily be the case anymore. Also, temperature is an important factor here. The colder it is, the harder a rubber becomes. Winter tires are meant to be used in colder temperatures so their compound is softer to compensate for the low temps. If you use them in summer, they are just too soft for optimal grip. It's the same the other way round: A summer tire is too hard for optimal grip in low temperatures (unless you drive them hard and heat them up).
@JorJorBinks123
@JorJorBinks123 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could be you in your thumbnail. That’s one sweet seat!
@freescape08
@freescape08 9 ай бұрын
1:12 Long days... Long days make a Summer tire, just like bad puns make a Jason tire.
@JRCarReviews
@JRCarReviews 5 ай бұрын
It's April and still, this tire is unavailable in Europe such a disappointment.
@luisguilherme2403
@luisguilherme2403 Жыл бұрын
Bro I came to your channel as soon as I watched the 2300hp gemera reveal. I'm waiting
@Mr_Dusty
@Mr_Dusty Жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison between these ION EVO tires on your 18 inch Martian wheels vs the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on your 18 inch T Sportline wheels? How does the tire performance compare? Are the EVO's 0-60 times as good? Handling as good? Any info or experience you can share about that?
@hamstercanibal
@hamstercanibal Жыл бұрын
If you're concerned about range you should not ask for high speed, regardless of type of propulsion ICE or electric.
@paulpavlou9294
@paulpavlou9294 5 ай бұрын
That all sounds good but unfortunately they don’t make them in 235/40 ZR20 (96Y) otherwise I’d purchase a set for my Cupra Born with sports pack tomorrow. I cannot get a single tyre in Australia in this spec from any manufacturer to replace my Michelin Pilot Sport EV tyres which are not available and on back order for the next six months.
@anshifemaden2950
@anshifemaden2950 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on ducted fuel injection (DFI) for diesel engines.
@sworks7124
@sworks7124 3 ай бұрын
What about the issue of ride comfort I find my Telsa Model Y with the perilli scopions have a harsher ride even though they have great grip, tire noise, handling etc.
@eduardoizquierdo309
@eduardoizquierdo309 Жыл бұрын
Is this a good alternative for a heavy non electric vehicle? Like a minivan for example
@pyRoy6
@pyRoy6 Жыл бұрын
I swear that you said you preferred all-weather tyres (because you don't need to change them) when you were testing the Cross Climate +
@JimBob1937
@JimBob1937 Жыл бұрын
He prefaced the summer tire recommendation as, if you live in a climate where summer tires are almost always applicable.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Жыл бұрын
Climate is important. If I can get away with it, I'd run summers year round. I can't. So for my performance cars (like M3P), I swap tires in late Spring/late Fall. For the Crosstrek, which sees a lot of snow use, I use all-weather because it means I'm not swapping every six months.
@russellzauner
@russellzauner Жыл бұрын
I'd like studless ice tires - there are a few companies that make them, and they actually work.
@Weehapaa
@Weehapaa Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video explaining/exploring Nano-electro fluid (NEF) "batteries" that Influit Energy is testing?
@gregcollins3404
@gregcollins3404 Жыл бұрын
I'm already on my 3rd set of 60,000mi original equipment Michelin tires for my BoltEV after 72,000 miles. Grrrr. I guess it is just too fun to drive around corners. Will try these Hankook tires next time?
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын
re: "I guess it is just too fun to drive around corners." whoa whoa take it easy LEAD FOOT...!!! 3 sets...? tire rotations are your friend. tell the truth, you just like spending money don't ya...? 😄
@RichQcCa
@RichQcCa Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't technology to create tire with low rolling resistance that retains their grip also be relevant to cars with gas engine? What kind of improvements do they brings in term of range for electric vehicle and MPG for gas vehicles?
@johnettipio
@johnettipio Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын
Q: Wouldn't technology to create tire with low rolling resistance that retains their grip also be relevant to cars with gas engine? A: yes, it's already been in existence in the Tire Industry for the last 2 to 3 DECADES, so the real issue is you just DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. no worries, for what i'm sure you DO know about is ever stricter Emission and Fuel Economy Regulations right...? okay well there ya go. btw the trend towards GINORMOUS SUV'S (4000lb to 5000lb) means the weight issue of EV's has already long been dealt with PRIOR to the year 2012 and the release of the Model S. none of this is "all new" or "unforseen".
@Jcewazhere
@Jcewazhere Жыл бұрын
$365 per tire. That's a lot of miles at just 6% more efficient to make it worth the price. But I value efficiency over racing performance. Right now I have some Michelin CrossClimate 2's because I live in CO where it can be all seasons within a week.
@shadbakht
@shadbakht Жыл бұрын
Would you get EV tires for a Hybrid-Plugin as well? A RAV4 Prime for example.
@RandyTWester
@RandyTWester Жыл бұрын
The Prius Prime comes with ECO tires from the factory. We got 5 to 10 percent lower fuel milage with winter tires. But slowing down on the highway by 10 kph (when safe) has more effect.
@Car_Tism
@Car_Tism Жыл бұрын
On my Model 3 Performance, I’ve been running Michelin PS4S but with the Porsche ‘NO’ spec since Tesla’s ‘TO’ spec has been much harder to find since they went with the worse performing Pirelli’s on newer models. I switch over to Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 for winters when the temps drop. It’s gonna be hard to convince me to switch from that combo… combined with Unplugged Performance upgraded sways, the M3P handles like nothing else I’ve driven with Michelin tread. There’s a reason why Tesla first put Michelins on our cars early on.
@TML34
@TML34 Жыл бұрын
Just get the PS4S for summer, EV or ICE. You won’t be disappointed.
@blazefreak.
@blazefreak. Жыл бұрын
My question now is how does it affect ICE vehicles? So something compareable to a model 3 performance is a bmw m3. Would the BMW m3 get better mileage and other benefits?
@vishal9676
@vishal9676 Жыл бұрын
What is the reason for one tyre (rear right) need more weight (2-3times) than remaining 3 tyre when balancing the wheels ? Every time (~5k km) i go for wheel balancing and rotation ,rear right tyre need more weight and rear left tyre hardly need ay weight.
@csm5729
@csm5729 8 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why rolling resistance/efficiency/range isn't considered important for ICE vehicles as well? I don't really get why the extra cost of low resistance tires are worth it for BEV but not ICE.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 Жыл бұрын
Like so many things in engineering, the more you study ANY given subject, the deeper said rabbit hole goes. (This is how you can pretty much get a Ph.D. in just about any aspect of automotive engineering and its related engineering fields.) My one feedback for this video though is that in regards to the comparison of the speed rating and the centripetal acceleration -- you are comparing two speed ratings in order to show the MAXIMUM amount of acceleration that the tire itself is rated for, but that may NOT necessarily be the amount of centripetal acceleration that your tires will ACTUALLY experience. You are not an extension of Hankook's marketing department. If you re-run the calculations for both speed ratings at 120 km/h (75 mph), the centripetal acceleration on both tires will be the same, given the same size, aspect ratio, and rim diameter. Therefore; the Aramid hybrid reinforcement belt, whilst it may still help, the degree that it may help can be significantly reduced when you evaluate it at the SAME speed (where you are most LIKELY to drive) vs. the speed rating of the two tires. (It's LITERALLY an apples-to-oranges comparison when you compare the two different speed ratings.) Be careful with NOT being an extension of a company's marketing department.
@KillerSpud
@KillerSpud Жыл бұрын
That yoke looks like a pain in the ass to drive hard with.
@7mpowerd
@7mpowerd Жыл бұрын
I would one day love to see a summer performance tire with the life of an all season. Basically an all season for summer only, no winter rating.
@PinkFZeppelin
@PinkFZeppelin Жыл бұрын
That already exists in spades.
@TWEO
@TWEO Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could get these for my model x. Front size is available, rear size isn’t :(
@btc54723
@btc54723 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Hancook doesnt make 17 inch tires that fit on the Chevy Bolt EV. Im still looking around for good tires for the Bolt
@dr_arcula
@dr_arcula Жыл бұрын
No price comparisons? Is it actually WORTH investing in these tytes? How much distance do you have to drive to recuperate the additional cost of the cool R&D bestowed upon the customer as premium price?
@JundaComputersGmbH
@JundaComputersGmbH Жыл бұрын
Summer tire only 200-300 UTQG while all season go up to 700-800 UTQG, the all season treads last way longer, and better winter traction, I would just get Michelin CrossClimate 2 or other all weather all season tires with 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol, so its good in summer, okay in the winter, and doesn’t have to swap tires of the season, it cost like $100 just to change set of summers to winter or winters back to summers, that’s $200 a year in tire change cost!
@WowReallyWhoDoesThat
@WowReallyWhoDoesThat Жыл бұрын
Is the weight capacity of the tire all three sets them apart from a not EV summer tire? Wouldn't better rolling resistance benefit ICE vehicles too? Maybe not in range as much, but in cost per mile or tank.
@dryii
@dryii Жыл бұрын
I recently had to change the tires on my Taycan, but sadly the Hankook weren't available. :(
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