England 13-27 South Africa - Springboks do a job on England!

England 13-27 South Africa. The Springboks beat England at Twickenham to end 2022 on a high. Where do England go from here? And how good could South Africa be at the World Cup next year?

[@alfredreynolds5]

What did you make of that game? Springboks deserving winners!

[@aevombergsa]

imagine the Springboks at full power playing Stormers style rugby . like 1997-1999 Springboks .

[@ivanmynhardt]

was extremely surprised by there running rugby

[@psychoanalyticthinking153]

Nice game as a springbok supporter enjoyed it. I Wish they did not do the silly red card mistakes, and have more control there. Think England is always a threat in world cup and Eddie Jones great Rugby mind. Like the introduction of the stormers players lot of talent in the Cape

[@orlandosadie6283]

Great assessment both ways but especially Boks which were forced by injuries (and maybe social media pressures) to change their gameplan and more attack out wide. Finally the springbok coaches have caught up the the SA URC teams attacking style of play last season. I have wrote their chances off for next year's world cup before this autumn tour, but now see some hope!!

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

​@@ivanmynhardt *their* nie daar nie

[@aevombergsa]

what world rugby arent getting about SA rugby is , they are building a new core of players for 2023 WC , that young core will be growing towards the 2027 Rugby World Cup . South Africa is awash with world class talent . the Springboks may be the first team to win 3 WC's on the trot . the Stormers coach may well progress to coach the Springboks in future . This is the first time Springbok rugby is building consistancy since readmission . its taken 30yrs for the consistancy penny to drop . SA is an international rugby Titan . its just taken many years to realise it .

[@mitch2924]

Wow, talk about getting well ahead of yourself.

[@aevombergsa]

@@mitch2924 i dont think so , no rugby playing nation has a school rugby conveyer belt system like South Africa . SA rugby are still building , they are at least a decade away from their peak .

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Anthony, I think you might be right!

[@oldtighthead2459]

@@mitch2924 uuuuuhhhhhhhmmmmmm you dont need electricity to be able to play rugby....

[@oldtighthead2459]

@@mitch2924 still dont need electricity only a flat grassed area ,you see mate thats what you dont get about us ,our kids play rugby ANYWARE ,they play on top class turf ,they play on pieces of graval , they play on streches of open sand in the Kalaharie and Karoo ,they play barefoot up to age 13 on fields covered with thorns and frost ....they dont care about electricity and fancy clubhouses,most only get their first pair of rugby boots at 14 ....infrastructure is for the pro,s and there we have some of the best ...

[@BrettStealth]

Am breathing a vindicated sigh of relief for Rassie & Jacques. They claimed 3-4 years back that they would do a complete reset of Bok rugby. There's a revolutionary scale to their work achieved with the administration, buy-in from franchises, true transformation of quality playing pool etc. But as far as coaching the Boks, they said they would start by bedding down firm Bok DNA foundations - on which all else rests. It would take time, but eventually the flash layers would be added. They endured a firestorm for trotting out 'boring anti rugby' but stayed on track with their plan it seems, & now we are seeing glimpses of the 'layers' manifesting. Truly remarkable because the history of Bok rugby has always been of administrative chaos, political upheavel & team torment. It's unheard of that we would roll seamlessly from 1 RWC cycle to the next. So things are looking very good indeed & will surely get better.

[@jacqloock]

Keep the faith

[@scarlettnolan1]

south african here- really enjoyed this analysis and very insightful, a fair review of the match

[@deeleah1781]

Wish there was more reviewers like you. Unbiased and factual.

[@russellturner1909]

A bokkie suck up

[@mikekamler]

Excellent and fair commentary. It was a wonderful performance from the Bokke. To take on England at Twickenham with no established 10 and playing the last 20 with 14 men requires a special mindset. I think they prepared for this game to make a point. They shut out all the peripheral distractions and, as you rightly put it, completed a job not just for the fans but this time for themselves. The Bokke are always under a massive amount of pressure from the public back home and I suspect (and hope) they played for each other this time. A fantastic end of to this season and now it’s time to analyse a patchy 2022 before what will be a massive 2023.

[@andresdeks]

Such excitig young Bok players coming through with BB to run out of your own 22 and take on England, SA rugby looks bright for the future

[@wikuspansegrouw2524]

South african here. This tour for the boks was all about experimentation, to see which players will fit or not. Creating depth, playing games without a recognized goal kicker. At the start of the tour, newish players were still finding their feet. I know they didn't show all their cards before the world cup. I am happy with this tour. The boks didn't fire on all cylinders, I think they hold back a little, and key players didn't play, to give everybody a chance to play

[@benitolonard4441]

Of course it was. No team could ever be given credit for beating South Africa. There has to be some underlining issue. What a pathetic and insecure race of people you really are.

[@wikuspansegrouw2524]

@@benitolonard4441 insecure? Clearly, you not following nienaber's media conferences, so, you are forgiven

[@paulnash5500]

I think the NH teams were somewhat rusty, due to not playing together for months. England are in crisis and got a fluky draw against the AB. All teams are building for the WC. Still a decent tour for growth and SA are looking good.

[@janhbhugo5085]

Boks are still building ! The best is yet to come ! Hasta LA Vista !

[@realdluvchrist5447]

It's seems you and I are the only ones who understand that. The rest of South Africa complains and criticizes Continually. Short sighted Momparras who pick on Excellent Rassie for being a Real man and telling it like it is. SMH.

[@reality-always-wins.9014]

SA gonna win RWC next year!!!

[@sharongrillenberger1024]

EXCELLENT balanced review. Thank you! Well spoken and a pleasure to listen to, just subscribed

[@peterknickelbein4188]

It was a very interesting match. There seems to be a reluctance from the commentators or analysts Regarding this incredible Springboks teams ability to absorb pressure and still to find ways to win matches. Well done and we are and will always be a formidable rugby team. England were silenced and beaten soundly.

[@kathrynroux4851]

Thanks for an objective report of the game, as Springbok supporter thought it was a realistic summation. We need reasonable reporting in these times, England do have the ability to bounce back like against the All Blacks, so it will allways be a good contest.

[@paulmulryne8405]

I thought the English commentary team were full of praise for the Boks and rightly so. England are poor at the minute and seem to be going backwards, whereas SA look like they’re really building to the World Cup.

[@dulls8475]

Did you watch France or Ireland beat them? England have been poor for 2 years.

[@prudeuncle]

@@dulls8475 France just survived mate haha.

[@conorclarke6101]

@@prudeuncle and the Boks didn't....

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

extremely well spoken and evaluated - complimént, great contribution ⁉️👊🔥

[@karabontseki617]

Dude I'm a South African you speak really well I've subscribed

[@rob8863]

Man's a pundit! Eloquent analysis and reporting mate. Keep it up!

[@oldelizabethansrfc213]

Superb comms from big Alf!

[@jacqueshollands5630]

As a Saffer, I appreciate your balanced views. Thank you for your excellent commentary.

[@teacherhenniebuitendag9663]

Well balanced opinion buddy. Respect. From a Saffa.

[@davidmadani7141]

SA and NZ are the ones building nicely for RWC.

[@johnmellitchey6625]

Alfred - thank you for a really balanced review. Well done Bokke, just remember that one swallow doesn't make a summer.

[@andrerademeyer8936]

Smith is still trying to find Arendse!

[@at7512]

Excellent summation 👌🏽

[@andysheep930]

Really good and accurate comments. Im on board. Go bud go

[@andredurandt1122]

I like you analyses of the game, insightful and calling it as it is. I share your "enthusiasm" of the way South Africa's playing and evolving (adding layers as you say) and I think Eddie is possibly playing "games" /bluffing here. He may want to keep his strategy under wraps and spring a surprise in the WC... But, saying that, it could back fire on him. England is a classy outfit and we should not write them off at all.

[@dimitardobrev3296]

Eddie is a bit of a glass cannon. His mind adapts quicker than his team can.

[@JusticeforAll1980SA]

Bok rugby is soo healthy right now! I am so proud to be a Saffa!! Geez, how good is Arendse! Boks vs France final predicted for next year, but let's see, anything can happen! England was put under so much pressure by the Boks! Wow, how I wish my Dad was still around to watch this match! Arendse you beauty!!!

[@diogeneslantern18]

An EXCELLENT assessment my good man. Greetings from South Africa.

[@dib000]

4 teams in it for me France Ireland New Zealand and South Africa.

[@citedcanvas85]

For England to be better they need to play a team lile NZ on a regular basis. Like SA have been doing for yrs. It will be a start. Playing mostly european teams is not enough

[@CevaQ]

Good review of the game, obviously as a SAcan I'm over the moon with this win but a bit disappointed in the overall tour, losing two games where I felt we were the better team on the day but lost due to, lets just call them "outside factors". The one big positive of this tour is the Boks unbelievable depth having missed quite a few key players, especially this last game.

[@amantedellopera1681]

Always crying and whinging,take your wins and learn from your loses,instead of refering to outside factors,they games you lost,you lost narrowly but fairly,its getting very tiresome listening to bok fans always blaming someone else for their loses,i thought the wallabies were the big cry baby sore losers,boks are a grest team,probably make a final,but stop the crying

[@lindilemgqobele4337]

great analysing Alfred 👌👌👌💪💪💪

[@Mimeniia]

Hey man, sorry Alf, we just too good for you blokes. Ref, Officials, imo, had a decent day out, so not anything to complain about there. Have good Festive Season.

[@alfredreynolds5]

Thank you very much! Agree, Boks just too good. Have a great Christmas.

[@leonviviers4922]

Liked and subscribed. From South Africa

[@Trajan2401]

After the lucky draw last week English fans thought they were right on track 😂 the NH are looking less threatening the closer we get to the world cup whereas the SH sides seem to be timing it perfectly

[@TaydoS]

As always the NH nations are usually arrogant usually think they're better than they actually are 😂😂. Still only 1 RWC title among them...pretty pathetic. The Number 1 team in the world has never gone past the QFs of the RWC.

[@reality-always-wins.9014]

@@DavyBrando Exactly!!! Ireland and France deep down know they didn't really beat the Mighty Springboks especially with our poor kicking against Ireland.

[@bm8725]

🤣 Literally NO England fan thought that. 😆

[@dulls8475]

@@TaydoS So obviously you live in a cave. England fans have been saying for ages that England are not good. The irony is that your post is arrogant.

[@TaydoS]

@@dulls8475 Clearly you've been smoking your dirty socks which is starting to affect the few brain cells you have left. I didn't even mention England fans but you decided to go off on a tangent. There's no cure for your level of idiocracy 🙄

[@timwannell6477]

Eddie MUST go. He’s killing us

[@alexanderweideman324]

Eddie is the best that England have at the moment. To change the coach just before the world cup is going to be a very bad move.

[@russellturner1909]

Yeah blame the coach?

[@ronclifffelix4168]

One thing for sure as Sprinbok fan we always back our team in good or in bad times we expect our team to win the World cup 2023 France it is a good thing that Rassie complaining now about ref by the time we get to the World Cup hopefully we dont have these ref problems, over the years we had referring problems he is sacrificed thank you Roncliff Felix

[@grantwilkinson24]

Great comments and fair to both teams. As Saffa, I never write England off. They keep making World Cup finals after poor seasons (except 2003 which was a ridiculously good side).

[@twitterking1]

boks are building nicely. would not be surprised if they go back to back world cups.

[@russellturner1909]

I would be

[@gavinwhindus2932]

Good summation!! The Vinapola brothers need to be put out to pasture, they have passed their sell by dates!!

[@dulls8475]

I agree. Could not understand why mako was brought in to "shore up the front row" He is good in the loose sometimes but a poor prop.

[@rickyv2844]

New Subbie from Cape Town-SA.

[@gerdajanevanrensburg2606]

The Boks have a lot of exelent players extra which they can send to W/Cup as a second team of Boks to win W/Cup.

[@martjollands4200]

Good win for the Boks, they were super-amped for this game. However, you can't write off this England team. They looked a bit leaden-footed and the forwards didn't pitch up for battle, but if they fix their scrum ( which is not difficult considering the forwards they have ) and can get themselves psyched for every game ( THE most critical thing, they were infringing unnecessarily instead of using their aggression in the scrums and contact points) they'll be in the mix come the end of WC2023.

[@beammeup8458]

As a Springnok supporter Jones is doing a great job ! He and his clueless geriatric team are just what the Boks would want .....

[@briget3456]

Bok supporter here. England have the players and ability to turn this around quickly. Better combinations and variety in the type of player are needed. There seems to an over emphasis on size and bulk and that seems to be slowing the team down. Bigger backs and forwards are hard to stop when they get going but they need time, space to build momentum. The England has shown consistently that they can be unstoppable when they get rolling, however smaller players tend to add agility and speed out of the blocks which can create havoc in defense and attack. To re-emphasize, I am talking about combinations to add spice and unpredictability to the team's over-all player style and game-plan. Eddie is one of the worlds most innovative coaches but somehow he seems to have lost the plot a little perhaps because he has an abundance of large athletic candidates?

[@peterwomersley]

'maybe south africa is adding layers to them game '? Just maybe the world is waking up

[@mrange20]

The Boks are bleeding their young guns and Rassie's plan are going nicely.

[@SeanLarkan]

As a bok fan I was most encouraged by the obvious team spirit & clearly playing for one another, the coaches, the skipper & the country. Also the licence clearly given to the creative boys to ‘go out and make some magic’ which they did based on a dominant forward and brick shithouse defensive effort. A good culture has evolved despite the challenges of political quotas etc always being at play. In the latter regard the Boks face challenges other teams don’t even have to think about. For England, I’d make changes at coach (too ‘corporate-speakish & arrogant) and skipper (unhappy with himself, rugby, England etc so how can he inspire?). Sadly for them & lucky for Boks, they are playing like highly paid talented individuals without a vision & cohesive direction for their game & freedom to express themselves.

[@tshepomogotsi]

Do you do commentary on tv or radio? you would do well on that route too...

[@scottwarwick7514]

Out of interest, what DO you pay for an average Twickenham test match ticket? I’m from SA.

[@alfredreynolds5]

I’m in the fortunate position of not having to pay. But for a normal adult ticket I don’t imagine it’s much less than £100, and more expensive depending on location. For context, hospitality you can find very little for less than £1000 per person!

[@wjames1937]

As I saw it, the 'boks played much of their games against Ireland, France and England at least 1 man short, which I suspect was an excellent, rare training exercise, and it showed in their final game. Good luck to Rassie in getting more consistency in international test refereeing - someone has to make the point and hopefully WRF will improve the situation. Beating England's full 1st XV in Twickers, playing with 60% from your 2nd XV, and for 20 minutes short one man, seems to me a very good sign for the 'boks. England's try came while the 'boks expected a stoppage because of Faf's obvious intense pain, this was not a good sign that refs are deeply concerned about personal injuries; hopefully this will also get fixed. Very weak ref response to the argy-bargy when the TMO could easily ascertain the origin of the fight. Disappointing that the ref gave England repeated final warnings in the last game, yet PSDT was red carded with zero warning in a previous game. I would suggest that Rassie be appointed a full member of all relevant World Rugby controlling authorities. Watch out everyone for 'boks attacking ffrom deep like the ABs, and for the coming elusive out wide games of Arendse, Kolbe, Mapimpi, Fassi, Faf, Ribbok, Willemse and others. Did you notice Willie directing the game, esp. the drop kicks? Was a red card ever given for pile driving head first into the ground at the end?

[@nox6885]

The Boks are no where near their peak. Eng and Eddie have no answers. Really poor Eng team. I'm taking a dig here but SA would not have kicked the ball out last week. You run that ball last week and the confidence we gain from that would be immense. But M Smith and Eddie would differ

[@dulls8475]

Funnily enough the Kiwi half back said that he kicked it away in the last 2 mins because the ref was pinging every breakdown, Both teams did not want to give an easy 3 points. Got nothing to do with mindset.

[@markwillies7666]

the thing us England do have a fighting chance at RWC23. by the time it gets serious and if England top their pool,which they should, only one of Ireland,France,NZ or us ie South Africa remain to potentially face England. RWC is a contrivance due to it being a knockout and sometimes better teams fcuk up and are out. We've done quite well at RWCs partly it suits our mindset and secondly we had in 07 and 19 good draws. But I would much rather support a team which wins 80 plus % of its games for 4 years than play siht like we have after we've won the damn thing. If teams stay like they are it could turn out to be the most open WC ever.

[@joseparedes5703]

Scoring 27 points against England at Twickenham is considered a hiding of note

[@claytonhorn7195]

Settling for the draw against NZ to me showed poor character

[@benitolonard4441]

Weird thing is Ronan O Gara was castigated for not settling for a draw during the 2009 Lions series v South Africa. Seems players just can't win in the minds of the irrelevant general public.

[@thecuttingsark5094]

If only England had some really fast and agile wingers …

[@murrayleckie4937]

There are glaziers that are faster than Steward at 15 . Apart from goal kicking i'm not sure that Farrell adds much to the game .I know that he is Capt but there must be better options available. With Eddie Jones selections its sometime its harder to to get out of the team than to get in.

[@thecuttingsark5094]

@@murrayleckie4937 Glaziers? Or Glaciers? !!

[@murrayleckie4937]

@@thecuttingsark5094 Glacier.I didn't spell check it but you get my point.

[@ivanmynhardt]

new to the channel, yes I am bias to the Boks its my team and i so glad that they were able to play the game and how the ref wanted to ref the game today. I am tired of this narrative of Boks being the whinging team which really is not our history as even stated by Owens. Boks are really trying to diversify there attack game and we have seen it against France and Ireland and now England. Always a great spectacle of the game when Boks play England and as a SAFFA I can tell you a win over England is always bigger than NZ because of our history.

[@braamvantonder5480]

As a SAFFA I can assure you that a win over the All Blacks is always bigger than a win over England due to our history! Nice comment otherwise

[@ivanmynhardt]

@@braamvantonder5480 geez I dont know mate, beating the All Blacks is special because of there status in rugby but England is more personal for other reasons outside of rugby😉

[@alanbedford-shaw9]

Agree that Boks have built strength in depth on this tour, close losses to top teams and a couple of good wins. England did not show the attacking capability they did in 2H v ABs and looked flat.

[@razorheadinjapan73]

I get 2020 being a transitional year with players, but with 2021 and 2022 they have just been poor. SA look well drilled and well coached and haven't gone backwards since the WCF.

[@paulrowney7008]

Thanks for giving the result away in the headline-again!

[@alfredreynolds5]

Games been and gone Paul. My videos are reactions to them, I’m not hiding the result. Sorry if it spoils it but the vast majority of people coming to these videos know the result and are looking for discussion and reaction to the match.

[@joseparedes5703]

Many people are saying that England is rebuilding really the way they played against our boys they going to need a miracle to be ready for the world cup

[@chrisnel5505]

Drop-goals - just a wee reminder of the shiver ghosts past resurfacing.. As for the Englander - send Eddie to the US of A.

[@kenweeks3803]

Rassie for President….⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@Shamankzn]

This is just five months ago as I read it in May '23... At the time, who would have bet on Eddie being told to take a walk, replacing him with Borthwick and then finishing 4th in the 6 nations... after a record defeat to France at home? I am starting to wonder if the coach has very much to do with the results from this team at all... it is almost as if there is a deep underlying issue with the culture.

[@petruskink8971]

Agree with your comments. But Come 2023 fireworks starts.

[@peacefulheart1431]

We, don't get favours from referees. So, we are forced to be dominant from the start. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪

[@russellturner1909]

What a load of rubbish

[@patrickchilds2987]

Facepalm : You get the same favours from the ref as all the other teams

[@rorysullivan4913]

Have to agree that NH teams appear to have peaked and SH teams on the up. This even applies to Australia who will be real contenders. The lack of skills from England team is what surprises me. England looked tired and may be hanging onto players that need to be replaced. Pleased with result as Boks seem to be evolving into a force that may just retain the WC. Bok suporter

[@dieontwerper8083]

Yes, you see that is what the NH teams struggle to get right before each World Cup, peak at the right time. If they can sort this out, they will be much better contenders. South Africa and NZ are good at it.

[@andrewbetts5358]

There's nothing to the England side at the moment. Unless it's a deliberate strategy to come into a world cup as a dark horse, they have been pretty average and won more on luck then skill recently.

[@jamesabbott8621]

Got to the stage now that its not acceptable that Eddie has to go but the management of the RFU must go with him. Inept from the very top with zero accountability

[@andygarcia6619]

Great to hear that you agree that S.A are a good side…. Bok supporter

[@buderimosteopath641]

The elephant in the room is Eddy Jones. He did great things in the first few years but since the last RWC he has lost the plot. Something needs to happen and happen now so England can have a stab at the 6 Nations and RWC. The current nonsense of "we are developing / progressing" just isn't being seen by the fans who have been patient for too long. When the Twickenham crowd start booing you then you are in big trouble.

[@teacherhenniebuitendag9663]

Funny how thw kicking game is now a thing. The boks started it and it was called killing the game. Now?

[@kristianras4839]

It was never an option for an England victory, the springboks are just on a different level, only losing to Ireland and France because of inconsistent place kicking

[@Theodupreez]

As a South African, I saw a lot of English players with big reputaions and multiple caps, but unfortunately for England, those players looked sluggish and I can't believe that you don't have any better players in most positions. You need to start at the scrum. Itoje was ok for me, but the rest were well undercooked. The Tuilagis will struggle to make any SA URC teams and the backlike were not much better. Having said that, the Boks played about 65% of their potential with 75% full strength team, and England had no chance. Watching rugby against the Roses is one of my bucket list items, and I hope to still fulfill that ambition in the next couple of years. Thatnks for being so honest about your team, but I think England is in huge trouble.

[@andysheep930]

Get rid of EJ now please England!! We Safas would love to see your team in the wc final in France but you need a fresh coach to tweak what is a good team.

[@johannesdupreez1331]

Now that RSA teams play in UK leagues, in the international game the two team's players, have a lot of provincialism attitudes. This shows in individual performance.

[@rossitherhodie5659]

Maybe England will get another 5 NZ players before the world cup. Come on Eddie, there are hundreds of top English clubs to build a great team. If not, go back to New Zealand. Irelands the team to beat at the World club.

[@craigrob1007]

South Africa B was the Best rated team.....

[@RushNZ_]

England has the easiest route in the World Cup which leads me to believe that when they get to the knockout stages they won’t be battle hardened so they won’t win the World Cup as a AB fan I reckon Australia will win the World Cup I feel like things will start clicking for them at the World Cup

[@robertpirsig5011]

England has very easy draw. Australia if they sort out their discipline could be a dark horse alright.

[@IwasInThe60s]

Springboks preparing rugby for the 22nd century.

[@Galaxygacha-ir5ko]

Wow. Awesome report! I. must add that out of all the NH teams, I feel that England is the most likeliest contender for the Web Ellis Cup.

[@chrisreynecke3129]

Don't worry england you will end in the world cup where you should be..... Playing against Australia in the quarterfinals. The best outcome there is if both teams lose and go home, but unfortunately, someone will have to go through, and only when england play australia in a knockout phase of the world cup, is the only and I mean the only time I support Australia. So with a bit of luck england's world cup will end in the quarter finals, which will be well deserved as once again they got the easy pool group, at least they can drive home 🤣🤣😂

[@dulls8475]

Aww sorry you have to speak English. More to life and success than Rugby.

[@patrickchilds2987]

South Africa could well be out in the quarter finals as well.😅

[@bradleycooper1609]

Eddie got to big for his boots he his completely arrogant he keeps saying about the world cup but test match rugby is one game at time professional rugby is a results based business and England performances have not been good enough and get beaten at home is embarrassing it's expensive to watch test match rugby the RFU is run by amateurs I also think some of the English players are overrated they say English rugby has a big pool of players to pick from but I think we don't have enough quality players in England especially in the Three quarters some of them don't look hungry enough for success I afraid on current form England will finish at the bottom with Italy in next year's six nations 🏉🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🌹😲

[@Mikellejarza736]

With the current team England will not make it to the top four in the worldcup.

[@seamus9750]

England were stage struck

[@rayred74]

The only way forward for England is to drop Owen Farrell completely. He is not an inspirational and charismatic when England is on the back foot. Eddie wont drop him which means Eddie needs to go too. Simple as that. Siya had the measure of him from the coin toss in 2019, and had his number today.

[@patrickchilds2987]

Not sure how sacking Farrell would revitalise England. The Boks dominated the set piece, the loose. Englands pack were outplayed by the Boks. How does sacking Farrell solve that ? Was Englands scrum performance Farrell’s fault . Honesty I don’t think it is

[@johnpearce5125]

Kicking to long

[@cullyx2913]

Jaysus,so much rugby noise,I think I might put my 8 yard old granddaughter forward for her own rugby podcast

[@citedcanvas85]

That was a world class terrible performance from England. Eddie is a terrible international coach. They have made zero progress since he took over.

[@AC-hu3xk]

Never in doubt SA ....Highly overrated English Side...English will never win a WC in rugby or Soccer...they talk to much😀😀😀😀😀😀...English should have got Wayne Barnes to Ref...

[@craigweideman6194]

They've already won a world cup in rugby and soccer

[@Acdc101able]

Shit happens

[@pretoriussarel2147]

England a JOKE, they need 20 players to win, well done Bokke..!

[@craigweideman6194]

Wouldn't say they're a joke mate.

[@geraldallen2665]

Bullshit they wouldn't beat the New Zealand womens rugby team. They need to get rid of Jones first and then change the hole team except Simmons, Stewart and a couple of others

[@klaasvakie]

Agree. Jones was a forward-thinking coach in a previous era. Now he and Jake White have both reached their sell-by-date. BTW Jake also said the English team would be thé team to beat.😉🇿🇦

[@andysheep930]

No doubt (from an avid Bok supporter) that Jones has lost the plot, for the sake of rugby fans get rid of him now!! Rassie turned the Boks around in 1 year for the 2019 wc and there are great coaches like Nick Mallet who could do the same for England for 2023 wc.

[@Kamil-mt1iv]

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