Selling Sunset: Jason Oppenheim on if the Show Is STAGED and DEFENDS Davina (Exclusive)

[@Sinsemillllla]

davina wasn’t misunderstood or “portrayed a certain way”, literally every time she was on screen she was starting shit and being negative. yuck

[@burberryclaretred6676]

I’ve known DAVINA types and those narcissistic bullies get away with anything they do or say ....

[@latinchika45]

Burberry ClaretRed they hide behind the guise of being “honest” but are really just mean bullies

[@burberryclaretred6676]

Bullying, racism and any intolerant act is aggression .... say stop 🛑 to these to these co-dependent toxic people who feed off you for their own self-gain

[@DelaneyWalker]

Yeah I don’t like her

[@quarentinedlove2903]

She’s just a jealous birch

[@keenastew]

I love how respectful Jason is towards all of his employees.

[@DeRussellMasina]

The key to keeping people is the foundation of respect. Work as partners

[@tysonzhang8110]

hes a good business man

[@titaniafaebeliever3302]

👍👍👍

[@narjissmihraje3835]

He's a good leader

[@burberryclaretred6676]

Davina’s last big reveal of her Jealous vindictive self was at Christine’s wedding and attacking Crishell until Crishell left in tears

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

Yeah that was so disrespectful dude. She had no reason to talk about ‘sides’ when Crishell was mourning the loss of her 6 year marriage at someone else’s wedding

[@RomanZolanski123]

Daryns _world That was the nail in the coffin for me. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt but after that? That was so insensitive. There’s a difference between being honest and having extremely low emotional intelligence. And Davina has that.

[@daphantom6632]

and then blaming Mary for it

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

Pingu Nootson I agree. It seems like the way she interprets social situations is greatly flawed. She seems to also be very unaware of how she does things and comes off. So there’s something off and missing with her in that way

[@burberryclaretred6676]

@@Blueeyesinthesky also notice how inebriated she was !?

[@marienclaire7744]

Davina is on a different level of rude. Yes she’s smart and good at what she does but social wise, she doesn’t have the skill to empathize with people, no filter whatsoever. Just straight up rude.

[@Karime18]

The fact Davina is divorced and attacked someone who went through a horrific divorce is concerning to me. She had no remorse and only apologized because she had to…she’s not only good at throwing low blows but she’s very vindictive. No one likes her and doesn’t give the show anything positive to talk about. Not sure what her purpose is besides spilling venom.

[@amyjacquelineg.715]

Mary is one of the nicest and most relatable of the cast. Makes sense she does the most business. Why is Christine still working? She quickly married a millionaire....

[@ralex3697]

Amy Galvin Mary is a hard worker, deserves everything she has. Christine is vile and so is Davina Mean spirited women

[@SP-kj6bg]

Christine is still working for the fame and the clout lol I feel like her head got bigger after she married the rich guy.

[@notbornagainbornright1935]

Love Mary!!!

[@rallytonight8491]

Well, she likes her job and wants to work. Just because someone marries a person who can take care of them doesn’t mean they have to quit your job and live off their spouse.

[@2toosexE]

@@SP-kj6bg oh you know Christine personally?? You do know that she's his top seller right? Y'all talk so much ish and believe it. Keyboard warrior and probably being bullied in reality

[@hannahm6059]

take out davina and bring back maya

[@jacksonplaysgames4612]

Did maya leave?!

[@tieric3533]

Even though they were condensed versions of Davina she still said what she said 😂 I Hope Chrishell doesn’t forgive her because she took it way too far this time. Like the tarot card reader said, Davina is weird hahaha

[@myahsexton]

Tieri C hahahah I’m glad you caught that I was dying

[@naurrrre]

I always thought Davina was secretly a lesbian and she’s repressing her true self lol

[@sayalipatil7336]

Apparently, Chrishell did forgive her. She follows Davina on IG but not Christine while Mary does not follow Davina and Christine. Chrishell has to be a fucking saint man

[@tiiaabiiaa]

😂true

[@_gothmami]

Who cares if it staged it’s entertaining

[@titaniafaebeliever3302]

👍👍👍

[@fr.alejandro]

Right. And Davina and 🌶🌶

[@wahyuvatomihidayat567]

Yes, its true. I love the show

[@shainal.joseph5374]

I feel the same!

[@shayshayabedin]

The cast of million dollar listing is sooo butthurt that selling sunset is so much of a better show.

[@MakeupWithAriel]

Is million dollar listing good? I wanted to watch it but I'm not sure if it's worth it

[@ritzafrancois4863]

Makeup With Ariel following on whether I should watch million dollar listing. Selling sunset is juicy and just exciting to watch.

[@Chutney1luv]

@@MakeupWithAriel I love Million Dollar Listing! They have good drama, on that show and they sell 20 Mil.$ homes!😅

[@livvyminassian1690]

personally i think it’s just okay. i tried to get into it but it’s hard. there’s no chemistry like there is on selling sunset. it’s honestly boring and the “drama” is cringey. the houses are cool though!

[@jennyld2053]

I gave it a try and I stopped watching it because of Noel. Too cringy 😓

[@kat8829]

I hope maya stays on she is definitely the one I would choose to be my broker if I needed one

[@quarentinedlove2903]

Same

[@Mel684]

Kaitlin Troy agreed

[@CheshireCesare]

Yes!! She’s one of the very few people on the show that I consistently like lol 🤣

[@VinhVo-mb2dy]

She’s so funny 😂

[@falakkhurmi4700]

haha yes. She is the only sane one out of the lot.

[@theashleylindley]

Jason seems like a really good guy. This interview made me like him even more.

[@mellowmarsh4603]

Jason???? That's some bs...Davina is a mean girl! Good people don't act like that!!!

[@MissJanina1]

I feel bad for Jason having to lie because he's probably under contract... 10-15 years from now, when the show is over, he will tell the truth ;) I really like the twins, they seem like good people :)

[@alexanderjobrien]

Shut up

[@minonasri3730]

Lie about what sorry?

[@rosafillava4821]

What lie? What do you think?

[@daphnekarungi9232]

Jason is very level headed and reasonable in his responses.

[@yvettenahinu2334]

I love the show but get rid of Davina, she’s a bad seed!

[@dlitefulone]

Christina too but at least she's watchable. Davina is an extra trying to be relevant by being messy.

[@jeremiahtucker6663]

No bruh keep them I live for the drama

[@ashtonbailey5138]

Yesss I mean even though the others are also kinda dramatic but they r honestly fine compared to Davina🙄

[@phantomblack5307]

Without davina theres no drama without drama theres no show

[@sn-bo3un]

@@phantomblack5307 thwre was drama and the show existed before she came she makes me mad

[@LeThysor]

yall believed in kim for 20 seasons so let them have their success

[@jvalentino6466]

HAAHAHHAHAHAAH I LOVE U FOR SAYING THAT

[@humankaleidoscope4989]

Loooooooool

[@valbarahona695]

HAHAHAHA

[@igdotfaign]

OMGGGG

[@phantomblack5307]

Ooooooooooooob

[@ceal4046]

Jason is so professional and respectful towards his employees, why can't more bosses be like this?

[@2toosexE]

Why can't more bosses sleep with his staff??? Ok

[@happinesswatts]

Why can't all coworkers be nice to each other also. How much the girls try to get rid of Christine he was also always loyal to her.

[@fonjadidi]

I love how the people are like we've never seen them at real estate listings. Well theyve never seen you either are you not real? Lol

[@TheIc420]

Davina really needs to understand that she's not hot enough to be acting like that

[@titaniafaebeliever3302]

😂😂😂

[@wxieqdsiwevbks]

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@ashtonbailey5138]

Lmfaooooo

[@bellavazquez2692]

yes omg

[@Evillittlesister]

THAT PART!!! She needs to know her place 👹

[@karmaisreal9094]

I feel like he is sweeping the actual drama under the doormat and adding flowers and butterflies to the scene. The girls are complaining, some are being bullied and some are leaving but still everything is all goodies with Jason

[@RomanZolanski123]

Yeah he should man up and tell the women not to bully each other it’s ridiculous

[@titaniafaebeliever3302]

👍👍👍

[@sunitareyes7190]

Totally agree

[@happinesswatts]

Off ourselves that's what happens. Like with love island. Married at first sight. They hide alot and show only what will bring positivity to their show. But again who cares. Drama is entertaining.

[@jackieochoa]

Jason, sorry. You are being BIASED on Davina because you consider her family. Nonetheless, her ACTIONS were HORRIBLE. She's not a nice person.

[@wxieqdsiwevbks]

Yes not going to bash her publicly duhhhh that would likely affect his business. Gotta stay professional.

[@wxieqdsiwevbks]

He's not going to I meant

[@DerDudelino]

I think it's important to understand that this is LA. If you are super rich in LA, you lead a different lifestyle than most normal people. Women like Christine hunting for rich husbands and throwing insane parties with no budget limits is not of out of the ordinary in California :O) Another point that leads me to believe a lot of this is non-staged: They super rarely show the actual buyers of these houses because billionaires and multi-millionaires tend to be very protective about their privacy.

[@lisamarie8274]

Every show needs a villain. Sunset goes between Davina and Christine, both wear the title equally. They may be good at their job, but they are not nice people. Davina needs to be served a slice of humble pie. Just my opinion, no hate.

[@CheshireCesare]

Omg thank you for at least being civil. Some of the comments I’ve seen in these videos are HATEFUL.

[@titaniafaebeliever3302]

I think Christine needs a bigger slice. 😂😂😂

[@jabee7846]

I use to not like Christine. Now l love her. The way they all bullied her at that party was really bad. My God the lady made the show.

[@emmierose853]

I really hope that Mary, Chrishell and the other girls come back for season 4.

[@meggles2188]

Davina is "professional "? If I saw this show, I'd never hire her or want her to show my house. Professionalism at their level of being in the field doesn't just apply when they're in front of the client, it's also how they represent themselves and the business in personal time. Teachers can be fired from districts if they're caught bullying someone online, and they're by no means in the public eye the way these girls are....she's just a gross person.

[@KimmyD]

Jason & Brett seem genuinely nice, loving and I like them a lot

[@jackieharris5959]

I watched all three seasons within a week. Absolutely love the show. Can’t wait for the next season to start. Brilliant interview.

[@jenkinsbelle]

Selling Sunset is interesting for sure! Some of it appears scripted, however it still manages to pull the viewers in. Like it or not, they’re doing something right.

[@lisamarie8274]

I am a huge fan of the show. We all know that "reality" shows are sometimes staged; but who cares. It's entertaining. I like Jason, he seems to be authentic and honest. I hope we get another season.

[@Marc98338]

If you think thats entertaining im scared how insanely dull your life is.

[@ChristinaMagma]

@@Marc98338 pretty sure the only one whose life is dull here is yours, don’t like it don’t watch 🥴

[@happinesswatts]

Exactly you are so right. There is noway Jason as much as he is a nice guy will accept that.

[@ErikaChristinaGdA]

I think they ARE real state agents but a lot of the listings are made up so they won’t just sit down in front of the computer you know?

[@victoriat795]

If Davina is truly professional and simply misunderstood, I think she really should not be on this show. She's not doing herself any favors and all the hate must not be healthy mentally, I worry for her :(

[@GirliePinkMe]

i really like the whole team! and i love Jason and Brett! i feel like he's super smart, articulate, yet cool and fair NOT egotistical at all. LOVE LOVE LOVE!

[@estebangonzalezromero4440]

Davina is the one who brings the drama 🤷🏼‍♂️ if it wasn’t for her there’d be nothing much to talk about

[@Dancemom-hw2jt]

Jason seems very credible but so did the agents from MDLLA! It’s weird that Tracy Tudor and Josh Flagg would disparage Selling Sunset. Especially if they are friends. There is enough space for several real estate shows!!!

[@adhdfitgirl]

we've sold 3 houses in Toronto and never met our agents

[@Law19157]

People praising Jason but is he really a good boss? A good boss ensures a healthy working environment and yet he tolerates toxic employees. Why would you let your employees be bullied by other employees? He tolerates it because the toxic people are either his good friends and or they bring in the money. Nevermind how your employees are treated so long as they bring in the cash.

[@aguedabolanosgarcia]

Loved the dynamic as an owner and manager for your group you and your brother are just so awesome! I love it when yall go out an celebrate when a house gets sold and acknowledge that employees hard work, its so motivational!

[@charlottezou558]

Jason is a nice person but Davina is REALLY mean. In the 1st season she set Chrishell up and turn the other girls against her, and make Christine her weapon. Romain is definitely right about her.

[@ShaydahandSaharavlogs]

I can't believe how mean Davina is, honestly. After she thought Chrishell said she was homeless in the past for a "sympathy vote," I've not liked her. And also saying she heard Chrishell was only homeless for a week... really upsetting. She has no idea what a day of homelessness can do to a child. I hope she grows from how her words hurt and learns. 😔😔

[@shulachick18]

The show was so juicy. I’m still watching the new season lol

[@shalsbaby24]

Wow loved Jason - such smart and practical guy and no wonder he is owner of Oppenheim Group - I have become his fan completely

[@user-te1cf9np9y]

I like Jason's workethic and way of thinking.

[@onmywaytohappiness5259]

Devil i mean Davina is very much so understood.

[@Goldblood0]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JoseMichtka]

Love the show. The success in my opinion, the shows flip from drama to real business of beautiful houses , and so on , and I never get bored.

[@llivelaughlovex3]

The producer is the same guy who produced the Hills....& remember how 10 years later we learned that show was scripted? 🤔 Either way, love Selling Sunset, scripted or not!

[@meganpearl914]

Mary married Romain months before the show started filming 😂 I do think some parts are real though like Davina saying those terrible thing to chrishell at the wedding even though the producers probably persuaded her to say it

[@jenniferh5350]

Love this show in every way!! The girls are awesome and Jason and his crew are doing what they do best!!!!

[@user-te1cf9np9y]

Jason is the man who we can trust and admire!

[@Grayment]

I don‘t think the show is staged. I think they just plan a lot.

[@eduardogerman7317]

I like all of them . They all have different personalities and different approach. That does not make them bad. If they all were nice and sweet all the Time and acted the same, the show would have never made it passed season 1 .

[@Andy-mh8sw]

I hate it when people who are outright rude hing behind ‘i am just too honest’. I was once taught there are only three situations you should speak your mind 1. If you are participating in a forum/discussion where everyone is exchanging ideas 2. If someone asks you a direct question 3. Where not speaking up would result in someone getting hurt

[@bezzcheck6654]

U seem like a trained dog

[@Chutney1luv]

Jason, gave an amazing interview; while explaining the show! I love this show! 🌤

[@Bendecidochik]

Delaying conversations is normal for reality tv

[@AshleysObsession]

Hes so smart and professional. I really enjoy hearing his response!

[@jvalentino6466]

I loved when i discovered this show and no one knew about it. Now it's getting famous its getting hate

[@khalilaraj3971]

I don't think it's getting hate cuz people are into it, people want it to be real.... I honestly think a lot of it is real but some of it is definitely scripted and frankly i do not mind it's fucking entertaining

[@mariamin272]

I love this show... Gorgeous women who are so kind and sweet and truthful to each other in a respectful and kind manner...Refreshing!!!!

[@tintintravelers]

Holding off on a conversation is staging. Waiting for the right time and place to record (that's the definition of staging). LOL

[@teresamardorf2326]

Who cares the clothes, parties personalities awesome show.

[@user-gf2lw9rv5d]

Davina seems to be a real employee. And she is not bad all the time. Some of the scenes must have been staged. I think she valued the honesty the most and it might made some miscomunication. Btw the thing I was so interested in is the fancy outfits of agencies. They look awesome! Openheim group hire people who are in nice figures? I am just curious.

[@1963zinnia]

Agree about Davina. She is just direct. All girls were mean too. Why attacking just Davina? Romain is too young and immature. His ego got hurt. Everybody missed the point: Mary should have never discuss publically on TV that her ring was fake. Of course she wanted a real diamond otherwise she would have been pleased with the moissanite ring. She should have kept this matter private not to embarass Romain. French people are very direct in their opinion and if you are a foreigner you'll get upset about their opinion. So I don't get his hypersensitivity.

[@MariaGarcia-gj1ni]

I love his attitude and perspective about every question! 💗

[@donnasmith6312]

Love this show just can’t stand Christine the way they make her look cause if that’s really her Attitude then yeah I don’t like the way she comes off

[@ninaderosa3521]

Oh man how crazy actual clients are coming out now saying they have no idea who these people are. That’s embarrassing

[@zylusparv410]

Jason, so happy for you with Chrishell!

[@mars_lea]

I do agree. Davina has problems too. She has no billionaire husband or divorce settlement. She needs to work if she wants to eat damn it. Maybe thats why she is so nervous and gets angry often. Davina is misunderstood. Not a vilain. Besides, out of all of them, she is the most honest, the classiest, and most professional. Heather goes to parties instead of listings, Amanda is late. Mary cries at Heather's brokers open, Maya goes back and forth LA Miami, Christine causes drama AT every event, dont even get me started on Crishell

[@mamabagaskara]

I love Selling Sunset! they are just jealous!

[@Law19157]

I was hoping it was staged because I couldn't stand Christine. I went half way through the 1st episode of season 1 then turned it off because Christine was so toxic. I wanted to see the listings not their drama.

[@user-ef5id9km3p]

I love Jason. Such a boss boss.

[@ManhattanStory]

He's actually very respectful

[@karenfaxon3155]

I hope there is going too be some new episodes far from boring I love it Jason's smile is legend xxxx

[@sarahsookraj9837]

Would definitely love more seasons !!!

[@DavorLovrinic]

So, if I understand correctly, this is the realest reality show of all reality shows ever? Come on. I'm (still) not convinced. AT ALL. All reality shows are so-called "scripted reality" and it's highly unlikely that all of these beautiful and talented women/models sell real estate as a working "Oppenhein Group" realtors because everything looks like most of them are actors "hired" in a role of realtors while the show focuses mostly on their personal lives. The storylines are about love and relationships and the show is not primarily (or not at all?) focused on real estate. Audience can always smell when someone tries to fake something in a show. And where there's smoke - there's usually a fire. Because it's like "The Bachelorette" (slightly) meets "Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles". That said, I'm a huge fan of "Selling Sunset" as an entertaining show because it's extremely well done and every episode pushes you to invest your time in the next one. But to think that (this or any other reality) show is something more than frivolous entertainment and take its storylines as pure reality and all of these gorgeous women as real working realtors...puh-lease. It doesn't mean that it's impossible. But it's just...not believable. Just my opinion.

[@michellevuong8881]

I don’t believe every piece of drama in the show is real but all the ladies are registered real estate agents in California. Do I think that any of them are actresses pretending to be realtors? No, but I believe some of the drama is definitely scripted.

[@b.k.8659]

Interesting that he and Brett are both attorneys. I'd love to see more on that.

[@hkvelasquez1269]

real or not. still love it waiting for s4 already!😊

[@donnasmith6312]

Yay for Mary 🥰

[@donnasmith6312]

And prayers for my Kentucky girl she’ll do great Iv got faith in her we Kentucky gals are tough 🙏🥰🙏

[@jvalentino6466]

People call reality shows fake all the time. If you watch the show in one scene theyre having dinner then the next they're hugging each other saying 'long time no see'. And also why do you think its only squeezed in 8 episodes and they film for Months

[@snowball-universe]

Ok I don’t think Davina is misunderstood. The sad thing is that I wanted to like her so much. Every season she show a reason to not like her. Season 1: She emasculated Romain and disrespected the way he bought a fake diamond. There’s a difference between being direct and being blunt and rude. Then she took Chrishell asking questions and brought it back to sound like she was talking shit and then Christine lashes out at her and then Davina made fun of her. Season 2: I did not one see her apologize to Mary and Romain for last season but she put too much emphasis on how she felt about being the last to know that she was uninvited. She doesn’t care about how she made the too people feel and what led to her getting uninvited. Season 3: Christine’s wedding. And her getting too involved with Chrishell’s divorce story. First of all, What loyalty does Davina owe Chrishell? NONE at ALL! So why does she care so much about both sides when she hardly knows either person. She met Justin once but knew Chrishell for 2.5 years. They don’t have a friendship at all. So I wouldn’t really expect Davina to support Chrishell unconditionally but why care so much about Justin’s side. Hopefully Season 4 is her redemption. That felt good to get out. I’m just calling it how I see it.

[@somebodythatiusedtoknow2422]

did you watch season 4 already? if yes what do you think about her now, did anything change about your opinion?

[@snowball-universe]

@@somebodythatiusedtoknow2422 I did and I’m telling you I think I love her now. Because when she told Christine “it’s not my fight, I’m not getting involved, this has nothing to do with me” I got up out of my seat and yelled at the top of my lungs “finally thank you”. She decided that she’s going to mind her business and keep her mouth shut. I got to see a side of her of her actually selling a home seeing her apologize for Chrishell and understanding that it’s going to take baby steps for her to work her way back in A good place with everybody. So yeah she’s cool but she better not fuck it up. Thank you for asking hope your life is great!

[@somebodythatiusedtoknow2422]

@@snowball-universe thank you, I hope yours is also great! I’m also really starting to like her because she actually can be nice a person and everyone deserves a second chance. she gets a lot of hate and she definitely doesn’t deserve all of it, I’m kinda worried about her mental health at this point. she behaves the same way as Christine but people don’t hate her that much and a lot of people are supporting her. Davina apologized a bit late but it’s important that she still did it and I think she really meant it. ofc it’s a problem that she’s brutally honest but maybe nobody taught her better or it’s just her personality which doesn’t make it better! I also think that she’ll become a better person since she saw what Christine is doing with them all because before all of that Christine was the only one that was always loyal to her and supported her so it makes sense that Davina only started beef w the other ones in my opinion. but apart from all of that I think the show is staged I mean it’s a reality show what does everyone expect?

[@karemichelle7237]

Davina keeps talking about leaving the brokerage and how’s she’s able to start her own - let’s see it get outta here byeeee!!!!!

[@gettheedgenow7079]

The show is, admittedly, very entertaining; however, most of those girls need to visit a psychiatrist. They are mean girls, scratching and clawing their way to the top, vying for a piece of the American pie at any cost! For Vanessa to be the new kid on the block, she certainly is a pot stirrer and a tale carrier. So much drama!

[@magdalenawiszniewska2825]

Everyone is needed. It would be more boring without some people. Davina should apologies for some things. Then its tv, they surely showed it worse on purpose. She s more boring than Christina but not more evil. Christina tries hard to become famous, to be interesting and she is stirring the shit from the beginning. They are perfect equals with Davina to be friends and should leave some of girls be

[@foodandwinefromhoneyblonde8346]

Mary Mary is a rockstar she killing it

[@rustybeddingfield227]

Davina emasculated Romain (allegedly) by mocking the engagement ring? Really, was that all it took? While I'm here, is there a sister-word for doing the same to a female? Can women be unwomen'd? Is it just men who are so fragile?

[@nicotuxedo]

Ok but that missing key scene with heather and Christine was so 100% staged

[@FrancescaSandersxo]

Great people, great show! Can’t wait for season 4 👍

[@eleanoramax9]

His brother did that choice because of taxes. This is a strategic and smart move in business . (My English isn’t very well)

[@tishgarcia2833]

I love teh show but I agree he favors Mary and gives her a ton of listings. It doesnt always seem fair

[@narjissmihraje3835]

But are they really working on that or no ?

[@santabanga]

Ummm no sorry no matter how the cameras are portraying Davina, she says the things that she says and honestly she doesn't even look that competent. Also, Maya steers the pot and then watch the drama. She acts so innocent, I hate it.

[@cryptoenthusiast724]

The only place where success comes before work is in the dictionary.👊 -TheLuxurious

[@reyh6475]

I like Jason. He’s smart and seems like a genuine nice guy.

[@cristinaapariciolinale2119]

For anyone who doesn’t know the creator of SS is the creator of The Hills so yeah, while entertaining I’d definitely would say is mostly fake.

[@barbaramelady110]

Jason is avery nice Man,class!

[@behindthevelvetrope]

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[@andreabaltodano7221]

I just don’t understand why Davina is getting more hate than Christine? Sure, davina started some issues and fed into drama but I feel like Christina was 10x worse! Especially the way she bad mouthed her “friends”. Make it make sense lol

[@lisatyler1783]

Krachielle is the prettiest.

[@mrs.c2793]

He does give Mary preferential treatment always. They should not be working together she needs to go another brokerage. Of course he will give her preferential treatment they used to sleep together.

[@Dance1617]

Idk who's worst honestly Davina always starting crap or Christine raging Narcissistic personality and pathological lying.

[@theresacalles8110]

When is season 5

[@pkilla78]

I don’t think it’s necessarily hate but people noticing that some things don’t really add up especially with that tiktok so this show is staged in some ways like the hills unlike other more less produced reality tv