Jinx is ALIVE but where is she going?? - Arcane

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@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
There is a lot of negativity around season 2 of arcane right now. Try to remember that negativity gets the views. Also i understand many people are upset that the lore has changed so much. But sometimes taking a leap means leaving a few things behind ~Ekko. I think Skarner and Viktor have both changed recently for the better. The only character that has gone a bit far is Warwick and ill talk more about that in my should arcane be canon video.
@Trish-im9pk
@Trish-im9pk 3 ай бұрын
They would have just shown ekko and Jinx happy I assure you Arcane e9 would have been rate 9.9 and everyone would be celebrating it lol . though out us never a bad show , it is a masterpiece the ending just feels rushed .
@ksalfkdsg
@ksalfkdsg 3 ай бұрын
@@Trish-im9pk jinx doesnt even like ekko in the main timeline bruh. remember before this meeting the last time they met they had a fight that resulted in her death (then later she got revived with shimmer). Also for jinx there's no way for her to stay in zaun/piltover happy she has to start over elsewhere. It's not about caitlyn she's a massive criminal and has too many lives on her hands. She has to escape somehow. whereas for ekko his primary loyalty and concern is for his people, his firelight base. He's the leader there and he's not going to elope with jinx (he likes powder in the other timeline not jinx in the main)
@Trish-im9pk
@Trish-im9pk 3 ай бұрын
Bruh , I said Ekko and Jinx happy , not together , I know already what you want to tell I believe the both of them will obviously take some time before being a thing . lol
@kevinheraud1945
@kevinheraud1945 3 ай бұрын
people complain about this masterpiece ? who they fucking think they are ? lol. say that the best animation of mankind history is..."'bad??" dam lol, if i saw one, i report the comment for "bullshit abuse" lol
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 3 ай бұрын
About heimerdinger yordels are immortal and when they "die" they just reform from magic at the tree in bandle city the spirits made from magic the whole lore of vex is her trying to bre this cycle of reincarnation so she can die.
@metoo7557
@metoo7557 3 ай бұрын
"Where is she going?" With any luck, to the spin off.
@kaito462
@kaito462 3 ай бұрын
I hope she wil get a cameo in the next story
@vv8s
@vv8s 3 ай бұрын
the spin off? excuse me what now????
@metoo7557
@metoo7557 3 ай бұрын
@@vv8s They've announced this series is over, but there is rumor there will probably be other adventures with maybe other characters.
@G_LOCKEDn
@G_LOCKEDn 3 ай бұрын
They announced there will be 3 spinoffs ​@@metoo7557
@vv8s
@vv8s 3 ай бұрын
@@metoo7557 there is no rumor, riot already said this show would only get 2 seasons years ago and that they would expand after arcane to other regions . that's not what a spin off is
@laniwithanotherhit
@laniwithanotherhit 3 ай бұрын
btw, the the "monkey head" that caitlyn is holding in the ending is exactly the one from the grenade, that jinx used when she fell down the hextower with warwick. For me, this indicats, that they probably searched for jinx or at least for her dead body because they assume she must lie down there. So i am guessing that caitlyn is checking the blueprint of the hextower after the search, because jinx body could not be found. Then finding out about the ventilation system, leading to her guess that jinx is still alive
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
ooo this is good
@marnie433
@marnie433 3 ай бұрын
yeh bro try to find a body after that explosion, the smile wasnt about jinx either. she smiles cause vi hums. people just cant accept anything, its crazy
@WingZeroCustom001
@WingZeroCustom001 3 ай бұрын
@@marnie433it’s pretty clear that jinx survived?? The pink light in the explosion, the literal fact that we are shown air ducts in blueprints, the airship she wanted to fly in, the jinx style scratched text for the ending tag. Animation costs significantly more than film and nothing is animated without purpose. It’s obvious that these hints culminate in the conclusion that she survived. Ignoring it is just hard cope
@echo7188
@echo7188 3 ай бұрын
@@marnie433idk on first watch I fully accepted that she had died but after seeing peoples reasons as to why they thinks she’s alive it actually seems possible. Way too many things suggest her not being dead but I can still acknowledge it’s a possibility, I just wouldn’t say “people can’t accept anything” is fair in a case where they made it pretty ambiguous. I know we see her fall and then the explosion but truly why not just show her dying on screen if she’s really gone…especially since she’s practically the face of the series, they either made it ambiguous because they want to let the fans decide which ending they think is more fitting for jinx or because she’s still alive and they want to leave hints suggesting as much. I do think they could have made the hints more obvious if she is alive though bc there’s the argument of “you can see a line of pink shimmer before the explosion!!” like um no I cannot see shit there are tears in my eyes ☠️ so it’s easy to miss and I do think if she is alive it cheapens her “death” a bit for people who didn’t catch any of the hints and fully accepted she’s gone
@echo7188
@echo7188 3 ай бұрын
TLDR for my previous comment^ I’m normally the first one to say that people are coping when a main character dies and they refuse to accept it but this is not one of those times.
@kobbsy7441
@kobbsy7441 3 ай бұрын
Kinda random but I never thought about how long jinx’s hair would be unbraided
@HK-gm8pe
@HK-gm8pe 3 ай бұрын
she looked soo freakin pretty tho....like a little rapunzel , I just wish we would have seen that under different circumstances
@BlackYTK
@BlackYTK 3 ай бұрын
Around 1,5 her hight. But lets also talk about how if it were realistic, when Jinx walks away looking at Vi, she would have epically tripped over it :D
@I_have_Claws
@I_have_Claws 3 ай бұрын
@@HK-gm8pe I think the reason she unbraids her hair is because she had finally lost her identity and hope after losing Isha and also for being imprisoned. The braids are a staple to her design and character, so I think she cuts all it off in the end to symbolize a new purpose she has for herself.
@tulip5210
@tulip5210 3 ай бұрын
I am salty they cut her hair 😢
@thornerg2
@thornerg2 3 ай бұрын
That bit after she locks VI in the cell, and backs off. Jinx was at her lowest, but never looked prettier.
@molly4936
@molly4936 3 ай бұрын
“JINXS IS ALIVE!” I scream as I’m dragged to the asylum
@kingofthemultiverseforever893
@kingofthemultiverseforever893 2 ай бұрын
„THEY WOULD‘VE SHOWN US A BODY IF SHE ACTUALLY DIED“ I scream as they take me away
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 2 ай бұрын
"I AM A DIGRUNTLED FAN!" I scream, and nobody cares
@VrodyJ
@VrodyJ 2 ай бұрын
"So much senseless pain" proceeds to inject 100kg of ket to my man*
@arkinusgaming4527
@arkinusgaming4527 2 ай бұрын
MOOD
@useyourbrainpleasethx
@useyourbrainpleasethx 2 ай бұрын
If not riot really is one of the greatest trollers
@pointlessmaks
@pointlessmaks 3 ай бұрын
6:15 this line kills my soul, jinx apologizing that she didn't know her mom was there but at the same time kates mom didn't know jinx and vi's mom was on the bridge when she sent enforces to kill everyone on the bridge.
@anhh7610
@anhh7610 2 ай бұрын
I doubt Cassandra would've ordered that though. She's the one that wanted clean air for the Zaunites as we see from the Kiramann files. Besides, she's a council member, but only Caitlyn had ties to the Enforcers.
@conorcobalt4624
@conorcobalt4624 2 ай бұрын
@@anhh7610 I agree with this reply, the Matriarch Kiramann for sure would not have been the person who chose to defend the rebel attack on the bridge, but also who gives a shit she launched a bomb at the building, no chance she thought no person would get hurt, but 2nd, to the OP the monkey head shows they looked for jinx's body, and did not find it... but she already knew about the vents, and assumedly told vi, and that is why she is happy and not sad and distraught
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci 28 күн бұрын
@@anhh7610 It was said that the Kiramanns basically fund the enforcers.
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci 11 күн бұрын
@ Are you kidding? She would absolutely defend a rebel attack. What was Vander's plan anyway? I remember Matriarch Kiramann for not an image but a sound. The shotgun. I don't blame her for it. She is protecting the ones she loves. But she would do anything to protect her family and to the larger extent Piltover including killing Powder and Vi's family. And yes, it was great that she thought that the people of Zaun "had the right to breathe" and she needs to be remembered for it. More than anyone else in Piltover ever did for Zaun after all. But still "right to breathe" when you think of it, kind of too little don't you think? They may be a bunch of animals but even animals have a "right to breathe". As for Jinx and the building. She didn't care one way or the other if anyone would be hurt, but indeed if it was off hours no one would have likely been there. In fact I believe they were having a late night meeting to give Zaun its independence. I do think her mentioning to Cait though that she didn't have in her mind killing her Mom was important in the fact she was saying it wasn't a personal attack on Cait. Not much but indeed something.
@onddu2254
@onddu2254 3 ай бұрын
"And sure there's some really satisfying deaths - I'm talking maddie..." That was delivered so perfectly
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
haha
@jackspratt7264
@jackspratt7264 3 ай бұрын
@@entgrove Bro, ya'll got theories for centuries, but you lack basic investigative and perceptive curiosity. That's not a "vinyl" that plays at the beginning. It's a steel disc. They were used in music boxes in the late 1800's in the real world. If you've ever seen a cylindrical music box, one that rotates like a tube and has those little metal ridges on it, this is the flat version of one of those, and they really did exist. In fact there is a company that still makes finely crafted music boxes from antiquity for around $10,000.00 a piece. You can find the discs around from various eras including modern ones anywhere from $35 to $100. It's Piltover, man. Everything there is gear-work related. Adding those music boxes with metal music discs is wickedly clever. There are no such things as vinyl record players or albums in that world. Go look up pictures on Google of "metal music box discs" and you will find a bunch of ones that exactly like the ones they open the show with.
@HK-gm8pe
@HK-gm8pe 3 ай бұрын
I dont know for me it was a badly written twist villain...it would have made more sense if she knew that Cait banged Vi...then she would have felt betrayed but she didnt know that so I didnt understand...it came out of nowhere , I also didnt like Caitlyn....like wtf Cait....Jinx just saved your fng life and yeah she blew up the councuil, so what? does she still dont understand how much SUFFERING these corrupt officals put Zaun trough??And she herself who she literally stained her mothers one good legacy and released grey back in Zaun...knowing there are innocent people in there, Its like she still doesnt get it....and Vi....what an awful sister , moment Cait came with keys she wasnt like " oh no my sister literally just told me that she is going to break the cycle...she knosvery well what that means...she isnt running after her even if it might be too late I dotn care....you dont just accept your little sis unaliving herself and then you F**k your lover iin that same cell your sister was just rotting in and having the worst crisis in her life.... and yeah btw I have psychotic little sister, have had some close calls...trust me Im not even thinking about banging my lover while my little sis does something soo foolish to herself.... that s*x scene just was sooo unnecessary and felt like fan service , didnt make any sense for them to do that at this moment, also Zaun and Piltover suddenly getting along after DECADES of oppression was just absurd
@janicesee__
@janicesee__ 3 ай бұрын
​@@HK-gm8penah to me it made sense because she was always the one pushing vi to ambessa
@jackspratt7264
@jackspratt7264 3 ай бұрын
@@HK-gm8pe So, if someone kills your mother you're going to be worried about how much suffering THEY went through? Are you off that shimmer? What's wrong with you?
@annabellebrewster365
@annabellebrewster365 3 ай бұрын
The poster of Jinx holding Vi makes so much more sense now. In the end Jinx protected Vi's future by leaving to break the cycle.
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis 3 ай бұрын
ooohhhh! :'(
@OverallMittens
@OverallMittens 3 ай бұрын
Vi wanted powder to have a better future but in the end jinx was the one who sacrificed and fought to protect vi’s future instead
@annabellebrewster365
@annabellebrewster365 3 ай бұрын
@@OverallMittens Actually so tragic.
@jujulachlan11
@jujulachlan11 3 ай бұрын
the fact that it’s AI is very upsetting
@annabellebrewster365
@annabellebrewster365 3 ай бұрын
@@jujulachlan11 The cover is AI??? No way.
@Imthebeasknees
@Imthebeasknees 3 ай бұрын
I also love the detail that when Ekko sees the Jinx of his timeline her hair is the same length as the Powder he just left which was really cool
@styx3022
@styx3022 2 ай бұрын
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@iNeo1
@iNeo1 3 ай бұрын
7:23 In that scene Jinx figured out what it takes people with depression years to figure out. Whoever wrote that really understands psychology. Depression works like a prison and a cycle that you must find a way to leave.
@electo21
@electo21 2 ай бұрын
Being myself exactly at the tipping point you're describing after 15 years, that comment felt good to read
@Spartam
@Spartam 3 ай бұрын
19:19 I wasn’t expecting that - it was truly the highlight of the video. A genuine gentleman, thoughtful enough to care for his audience and others in similar circumstances. To Entgrove: thank you. To everyone else: there’s always an answer - suicide is never it.
@SaveDareDevil-Mx
@SaveDareDevil-Mx 3 ай бұрын
Agreed^ that made me tear up & not for myself but just cuz i have actually chronically depressed friends who i’ve tried getting out of their own heads but it’s really hard & i can see where they are coming from which makes it even harder but ekko’s line also gave me so many new ways to try & break through to them & show them their broken logic through their eyes. & yes ofc this video’s end & the community Entgrove shared is def smthn i can now & will guide them to & i’m sure it will also most def help
@Spartam
@Spartam 3 ай бұрын
@@SaveDareDevil-Mx It’s great to hear that you’re taking the time to support your friends. Sometimes, even small efforts can make a big difference, and sometimes, that’s exactly what a friend needs. I truly hope you’re able to help them in any way you can - just remember to take care of yourself along the way. Wishing you and your friends the very best.
@modernraegan
@modernraegan 3 ай бұрын
And the fact that he played ekkos saving words to jinx at the very end brought tears to my eyes
@wass77
@wass77 3 ай бұрын
gosh when jinx screamed for isha without the background noise and music it really pierced my heart
@GnasheRxD
@GnasheRxD 3 ай бұрын
11:00 what Ekko is eluding to is the fact that the Jinx in the alternate timeline loved Ekko, because he didn't give up on her, DESPITE the fact he was the one who gave the tip about the job that got Vi killed. He's referencing what Alternative-Jinx's actions taught him; she doesn't actually say it to Ekko.
@brugs3141
@brugs3141 3 ай бұрын
The comment i was searching for
@jotarocujoh5903
@jotarocujoh5903 3 ай бұрын
you are so right
@D3vilSouls
@D3vilSouls 3 ай бұрын
I also believe the silco on powders timeline also helps a bit since he back been friends with Vander.
@cedricl.marquard6273
@cedricl.marquard6273 3 ай бұрын
He also sees what could have been. In our universe, he gave up on Jinx. He sees the alternate universe and how much Powder has helped him and realises that he was too quick to surrender. In the alternate timeline he admits as much to Powder. "I gave up on you" or something like that and she says: "You never give up" (paraphrasing). That shows him that he shouldn't give up and that there are good people to build a future for (in his mind Powder/Jinx who he abandoned in S1)
@guanjah8186
@guanjah8186 3 ай бұрын
@@cedricl.marquard6273 Jinx was always perfect in all timelines, we all know that. Its obvious.
@padawan7756
@padawan7756 3 ай бұрын
Has anyone noticed that throughout the events of the series, from the warehouse explosion to the end of Arcane, Jinx is constantly being watched by ravens? Swain clearly chose Jinx for his plans, as in the final scenes, his raven shatters the remains of Jayce's hammer and takes the hex gem. The only person, aside from Jayce, who can turn hextech into a weapon is Jinx, who has just set off for Ionia. I’m convinced Swain will seize the opportunity to capture Jinx and force her to create hextech weapons for Noxus.
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
I talk about this in my black rose video but it’s weird. I think some are black rose (those with yellow eyes) and some are swain (those with red eyes)
@padawan7756
@padawan7756 3 ай бұрын
@@entgrove I could be wrong, but as far as I know, all ravens in Runeterra are spies for Swain's demon. Ravens with red eyes indicate that Swain is personally observing the situation.
@stulls
@stulls 3 ай бұрын
MY MIND IS BLOWN I DID NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT THE RAVENS BEING SWAIN WATCHING JINX FOR LIKE THE WHOLE SHOW
@noxiouschocolate9644
@noxiouschocolate9644 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@padawan7756swain even has an interaction with jinx: “Faces fading into the flames. It was all her fault” Not to mention noxus has a track record for kidnapping kids/young people and “encouraging” them to put their talents to good use
@chirpofthebudgie
@chirpofthebudgie 3 ай бұрын
Bruh I hope he doesn't take advantage of jinx the same way silco did and recruits her. i hope she actually heals and is able to fight him off and anyone else trying to use her as a weapon
@awigame7016
@awigame7016 3 ай бұрын
9:58 no words can describe just how much I love this fragment of the song where it ends abruptly and goes in reverse for a second. It sounds so cool it gives me shivers every time
@AbdullahKhan-sw4bq
@AbdullahKhan-sw4bq 2 ай бұрын
Whats the name of the song..???
@gabrield.3600
@gabrield.3600 2 ай бұрын
​@@AbdullahKhan-sw4bq Wasteland
@uncleol
@uncleol 2 ай бұрын
​@@AbdullahKhan-sw4bqIf you were still wondering, it's called "Wasteland"
@YEV2439
@YEV2439 3 ай бұрын
I want spinoff where Himerdinger returns after "week" in the same place where Jinx goes on the airship and then she becomes his next pupil cause damn this girl IS genius!
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci 4 күн бұрын
I guess there's another one of his species that fits her better. I hope she finds him.
@nsan48
@nsan48 3 ай бұрын
16:04 the ship is going to piltover the first time. The 2nd time, it's going away. Even more reason to think it's Jinx, leaving or "walking away."
@granknight
@granknight 3 ай бұрын
She is going to damacia she and lux are kinda friends 😂
@JoaoLopes-vw7tr
@JoaoLopes-vw7tr Ай бұрын
@@granknight Whether Jinx is going to Demacia or not is a mystery, but so far Jinx and Lux have canonically never met, they don’t know of each other’s existence.
@granknight
@granknight Ай бұрын
@JoaoLopes-vw7tr oh we know that but ask yourself how many times have riot changes the lore by now and they literally made a mv of them being friends so it's not far fetch to expect a lore change might happen in the future 🤣
@JoaoLopes-vw7tr
@JoaoLopes-vw7tr Ай бұрын
@@granknight I don't know how many times Riot changed the lore to be honest, but at any rate that was not my point. As I got into the lore from Arcane and not the game itself (I did play the game but didn't know its lore), when I read the first time that "Jinx may end up with Lux because they're very close in the game", I chose to believe it, even though I felt disappointed that the Ekko setup was apparently getting dropped. Then one day I'm corrected by someone who says Jinx and Lux never actually met in the game and it's all just some people's wishful thinking born from game skins (and a cartoon or something?). After spending some time searching to confirm it, I realized they were right. Obviously I felt deceived. I'm not against shipping, I'm against misinformation. And that's why I added my first comment to yours, so other people don't fall into the same trap I did. On another note, I don't understand why any shipper would feel the need to squeeze their prefered pairing into a canon in which one of the characters already has a romantic connection. And this is Jinx who we're talking about, who goes through enough mental turmoil in Arcane, for some people to prefer squeezing her into another romance and add the emotional stress of a love triangle, it feels disrespectful to both the character of Jinx and her journey in the show. Not to mention the disrespect towards Ekko and his own story, which becomes so connected with Jinx's during that final act. Please don't take this as a rebuttal to your comment. I'm simply elaborating on where I'm coming from with these feelings. Cheers for reading.
@granknight
@granknight Ай бұрын
@JoaoLopes-vw7tr well anything can happen its the multiverse plus riot has always been game with fans to its shenanigans just look at star guardian urgot 🤣 anything can happen.
@ingusviksers2975
@ingusviksers2975 3 ай бұрын
I'd wait 20 years for any kind of continuation of Jinx's story If I had to I hate the game with a passion but the lore and this show is breathtaking.
@vrrrrrr6872
@vrrrrrr6872 3 ай бұрын
Can you share what's wrong with the game?
@ingusviksers2975
@ingusviksers2975 3 ай бұрын
@vrrrrrr6872 everything
@Aviqu
@Aviqu 3 ай бұрын
@@ingusviksers2975 the game needs voice comms as a staple but no one uses it xd
@erigor11
@erigor11 3 ай бұрын
@@ingusviksers2975 Heck, you get it all. A man of culture.
@omargallo9636
@omargallo9636 3 ай бұрын
I don't think the game have anything in common except the characters and the world itself any thing else is writing being good
@DroneHub_2483
@DroneHub_2483 3 ай бұрын
Thats the grenade head, so that means Cait was down there looking for jinxs body, and if she was dead we would have seen her dead body
@Kiginsworth1010
@Kiginsworth1010 3 ай бұрын
she found the monkey head but no jinx, and was searching for ways she could have escaped. thats also why she smirked when she saw those airvents. that would also tie in perfectly with the placement of the purple streak
@ShowsPlayz
@ShowsPlayz 3 ай бұрын
@@Kiginsworth1010 nah its all true and she is more likely to be alive, but she smirked bcs of vi singing, didnt u watch the ep?
@Kiginsworth1010
@Kiginsworth1010 3 ай бұрын
@@ShowsPlayz i did, that's why I commented on it. It can be both.
@Tuerescaca
@Tuerescaca 3 ай бұрын
@@Kiginsworth1010I think she smiled bc of vi’s humming
@Menalix
@Menalix 3 ай бұрын
@ I agree but I also think, she smiled in reference to her thoughts of telling Vi, and then hearing the happy tuned humming from Vi, thinking something like "maybe its for the best this way" to herself, cause to Cait Vi's happiness is the most important. And Vi was seemingly doing alright, for someone who had just lost her sis and dad for good. I think it was the director's way of ensuring we as the viewer understood Cait didn't tell Vi, due to bad intentions, as in still feeling hate towards Jinx. But it just being for Vi's best. To also get an end to that emotional/angry part of Cait, and give us a sense of Cait and Vi was ready to move on and create a good life.
@dash1011
@dash1011 3 ай бұрын
When you said "[Jinx] is going wherever we're going," I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head. Ionia makes a lot of sense for the character of Jinx and for the next story of Noxus and Ionia which there's some speculation about. I am also very excited for whatever comes next. Great video! Thanks for doing this.
@naiaramaitemaldonadoramire177
@naiaramaitemaldonadoramire177 Ай бұрын
Jinx is not the protagonist, Jinx is the protagonist of Arcane along with Vi, but the creators have already said that they want to give prominence to other characters and new Runeterra stories. Jinx's voice actress also said that she would be stepping away from the character a bit so as not to be pigeonholed, so we most likely won't see Jinx anytime soon, at least not in the next series. I mean, why would Jinx go to Noxus? Jinx will appear again, but she won't be the protagonist
@kj-hk9bl
@kj-hk9bl 11 күн бұрын
@@naiaramaitemaldonadoramire177 Christian Linke has said ”there are definitely arcane characters worth turning into even their own franchises” could match Jinx very well. Especially if Jinx is going to Bilgewater(most possibly) she could have a bigger role
@Emiilily
@Emiilily 3 ай бұрын
5:07 Idk if it matters much as i also believe heimerdinger just got teleported / timetraveled but, he cant die. Yordles can't die, they are spirits and when they "Die" they just reform in the spirit realm known as Bandle City. Him saying "Back in a wink" could mean that he knows that no matter what happens to him, he will be back.
@kaiya3559
@kaiya3559 3 ай бұрын
Another thing you can note is after Jinx decided to leave the cycle, she cut her hair, which looks similar to isha. But, also can tie into how hair hold memories and her cutting her braids and hair could symbolize her letting go of her past, memories and Vi, as letting go of Vi would free her from the fight between Caitlyn or Jinx. I loved your analysis of Jinx, and Jinx overall in arcane too
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Kaiya!
@ryanw459
@ryanw459 3 ай бұрын
Her hair is like Vi’s with her own crazy flair
@darkwillow1451
@darkwillow1451 3 ай бұрын
i personally think the no braids-jinx is kinda meant to also suggest the rebirth of Powder in a way. because she kinda also resembles the alternate-universe jinx from ep7. On another note, if we're talking Isha, we need to talk about... bunny. You can see Isha wearing bunny ears in their hideout. The baloon that jinx is using to attack in ep 9, has bunny ears.
@666kittenslayer
@666kittenslayer 3 ай бұрын
@@darkwillow1451yea I think her hair is also supposed to represent chains in some type of way. Like silco said, we create our own prisons
@666kittenslayer
@666kittenslayer 3 ай бұрын
Another thing could be for the final battle she also cut her hair to kinda look like Vi, since she wanted to be strong because “Vi was strong because she was afraid”
@NoFoCuS
@NoFoCuS 3 ай бұрын
Whoa, i didnt notice the detail that mel put maddie in a ball. Thats pretty sick.
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
such a satisfying kill hah
@blackouthorus1519
@blackouthorus1519 3 ай бұрын
Wait what lol
@collecter343
@collecter343 3 ай бұрын
Ok that makes more sense, easier to make a sphere around her than make a bunch of angled panels specifically to headshot her.
@blackouthorus1519
@blackouthorus1519 3 ай бұрын
@@collecter343 honestly how did nobody notice only way something that can bounce around like that bullet did is a sphere
@collecter343
@collecter343 3 ай бұрын
@@blackouthorus1519 Cause it happens so fast that you can miss it and it’s honestly not that relevant whether she does spheres vs just panels, end result is the same.
@victorrychkov2839
@victorrychkov2839 3 ай бұрын
In a recent Q&A from Arcane execs it's been confirmed that both Heimerdinger and Jinx have survived. Rejoice, folks!
@azur8607
@azur8607 3 ай бұрын
Yoo send link
@rman9728
@rman9728 3 ай бұрын
What q&a ?
@azur8607
@azur8607 3 ай бұрын
@@rman9728 ye
@vrrrrrr6872
@vrrrrrr6872 3 ай бұрын
Link?
@SnowLily06
@SnowLily06 3 ай бұрын
Where?
@mrbushido56
@mrbushido56 3 ай бұрын
I think cait is going to go look for jinx. Shes not going to tell vi until she has concrete proof cause just there being vents there isnt proof shes alive. In season 1. Vi was in a cell n told jinx she spent years not knowing if jinx was alive or not. Its cruel to put her through that again. But cait isnt one to let something go. She will look for jinx cause i think while its good jinx walked away the problem is she believes those who get near her die. She cast herself out so in the end i think their character arcs arent done. Vi needs to learn to trust others to handle themselves n powder needs to accept she isnt a jinx. So i see then coming together and in a fight. They will square off with someone n vi will leave powder to deal with them while she goes do something else
@mrbushido56
@mrbushido56 3 ай бұрын
I think one if the shows will introduce lux n she will be a childhood friend of vi n powder
@mrbushido56
@mrbushido56 3 ай бұрын
I also think she's going to ionia
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Yo! Thanks for the super Bushido!! I really hope its Ionia
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci 28 күн бұрын
Cait is NOT going to look for Jinx. She has freed herself from that obsession. She didn't need 'the body' (or what was left of it) for closure. Either Jinx is dead or Jinx has given her sister the "gift" of leaving and either way she isn't going to spoil it for Vi.
@kj-hk9bl
@kj-hk9bl 11 күн бұрын
@@mrbushido56 according to the info we have it’s most likely bilgewater
@useyourbrainpleasethx
@useyourbrainpleasethx 2 ай бұрын
I mean it was obv jinx made it but you just proved it at that point the pink flash and everything i love you man you really put out everything you could find you earned yourself a sub great fin work man
@useyourbrainpleasethx
@useyourbrainpleasethx 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@entgrove
@entgrove 2 ай бұрын
Thanks use!! :)
@Brionick
@Brionick 3 ай бұрын
Did u notice, ekko has the Jinx mark on his chest the pink X .. also jinx has the Infinity symbol of ekko on her biceps (right) in pink color.. also her one of her blimp blades has ekkos green infinity symbol on it. I guess they had some fun after he stopped her suicide.
@GladwinAbel
@GladwinAbel 3 ай бұрын
They probably rekindled off screen.
@ckhayne2
@ckhayne2 3 ай бұрын
in the Necrit interview with the co-creator we learn that Ekko told her about the other timeline; to help her believe that there was good in her. Maybe we will get a director's cut one day with some of the stuff that was cut. (like the extended Horny Jail scene that Riot made them edit).
@martaraso6157
@martaraso6157 3 ай бұрын
​@@ckhayne2what interview is it?
@YukkiRuiii
@YukkiRuiii 3 ай бұрын
Might as well lose the card knowing that there was a good chance of not walking away alive 😂😂😂
@Lykeurgos
@Lykeurgos 3 ай бұрын
​@@martaraso6157 necrits last video I think
@Telrob
@Telrob 3 ай бұрын
It's from multiple sources. It's not a direct quote but Silco says in the bar with vander in the AU "The greatest thing we can do in life is find the power to forgive." Then i think Ekkos interactions with Powder influence what he says in that moment. Ekko kind of screws up with Powder at first, then apologizes and they build something together. Ekko recognizes that if Silco and Vander can resolve their issues, then maybe he can with Jinx now that he has seen that there is potential for good in her through AU Powder.
@kervala
@kervala 3 ай бұрын
Even Ambessa talked about "forgiving" in a speech with Caitlyn :)
@cngotham4111
@cngotham4111 2 ай бұрын
This also proves that jinx doesn't have to fake her desth for vi to be happy if silco and Vander can atop the cycle without killing each other so can the sisters
@Telrob
@Telrob 2 ай бұрын
@@cngotham4111 Exactly! People who think Vi and Jinx can't be together missed one of main themes of the show, forgiveness. Jinx doesn't understand that yet and that's why she thinks she needs to leave. Hopefully we get to see Jinx again in future shows where she learns to love herself and we get to see the sisters together again. That's probably my ultimate Endgame.
@cashS1106
@cashS1106 3 ай бұрын
It’s up to Ekko to bring her back people said they would like a mini series of Ekko traveling throughout Runeterra to find Jinx.
@Maryln.Antoinette
@Maryln.Antoinette 3 ай бұрын
imagine though, like that would be really good, seeing them in a different setting and being able to experience a life
@RaiNyDaythefirst
@RaiNyDaythefirst 3 ай бұрын
I am actually planning to write a fanfiction like that
@Thenewkrookkud
@Thenewkrookkud 3 ай бұрын
Traveling after her would completely demean everything he was telling her and what she was working towards. No matter the past, it's not too late to build something new. If he knew she planned to leave after the battle going after her would mean dragging her back to the past she was trying to bury. Were he to go WITH her could be a different story. We don't know the depths of what their interaction was after he got her attention. But he obviously had an effect on her. Maybe they both came to the conclusion that starting over would be best for her, but knowing Jinx often relies on the company of others, she could have asked him to come along. It would be cool. It wouldn't be a lot, but it would at least give us a chance to dive deeper into whatever their relationship is, since we've barely touched the surface even between these two seasons, whether it be platonic or romantic. Only thing is, Ekko is a Zaun character. More than any other Zaun character. His motivations have always been about improving his community and changing his city for the better. It'd be character assassination were they to take the chance at splitting him from that origin. Basically, I'm just saying i dunno. I just wanted more context with them. We only got tablescraps.
@theaquakotch
@theaquakotch 3 ай бұрын
​@@RaiNyDaythefirstI would like to see that actually
@Tiniestwombat
@Tiniestwombat 3 ай бұрын
I think she has to eat pray love on her own. She will come back when she finds herself.
@joeminier1736
@joeminier1736 3 ай бұрын
Felt so bad for jinx everyone she got close to she either loses or they get hurt. Hope she and vi can find peace and reunite in the future.
@gulli72
@gulli72 3 ай бұрын
IF the series follows Jinx post-Arcane, we still have a CHANCE to get an entire episode presenting all the material of Ekko and Jinx bonding before the final battle. Let's hope that that's why they cut it.
@guanjah8186
@guanjah8186 3 ай бұрын
I would hate that so much. I hope they cut Ekko.
@Merlincat007
@Merlincat007 3 ай бұрын
​@@guanjah8186 Who hurt you 😭
@jcm2606
@jcm2606 3 ай бұрын
I fully believe that they cut it for runtime reasons, but that's actually not a bad idea to bring it back. Even if it's just Jinx recounting the scenes to somebody else (which I think would work better than a straight flashback, plus it would be much easier to work into a new show), it'd be nice.
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci
@GeneJohnson-vy2ci 3 ай бұрын
@@jcm2606 As much as we might wish can Jinx fit into any other show? I don't want a shallow interpretation of Jinx. If these other shows are going to be about other places in that universe then the writers need to be skilled enough to fit her into the other places organically and not forced as a remember berry She isn't a character we would be happy with saying "oh look, here's Jinx" the way they could do to let's say Cait where they could have a scene where other members of that planet get together at the current place for a cameo allied in some fight or whatever. If Jinx is there I want Jinx. I don't even know how I would feel about a graffiti scene which would indicate Jinx is there somewhere. One problem with Jinx is if she gets involved again (when her theme right now is walk-a-way) her motivations are going to have to be well written. She doesn't seem to be at a point where she would get involved because she is a "good revolutionary" and she recognizes injustice or something like that. It will have to be something personal for her. She doesn't do causes. She is too wise for that. She's no idealist. I still don't know what a post Isha Jinx looks like. She obviously doesn't want to kill herself anymore but beyond that she still sees herself and her role in the world as well what her name means. People around her get hurt. They get killed. Right now if I would have to guess she believes the best thing she can do for the world is "walk away" and not ever get close to anyone else again because people who do end up hurt or dead. I know this sounds dark but I don't even know why she saved herself. Perhaps it was something Ekko said but I don't know what he could have. I get the comedic value the creators might see in her as someone who can come in and create chaos at a key moment, but again, I would feel cheated. I really would not be satisfied with spectacle without motivation. I don't want her to become a caricature of herself.
@cngotham4111
@cngotham4111 2 ай бұрын
I much rather see what eactly did he say to stop jinx from killing herself. That could have been such a powerful moment and they didn't do it.
@thelord4672
@thelord4672 3 ай бұрын
yooooooooo finally someone talks about jinx i felt like they kinda made her story short. but shi the ending was amazing !
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked the video lord! :)
@mikemolloy2978
@mikemolloy2978 3 ай бұрын
Literally the main character.
@ubermaster134
@ubermaster134 3 ай бұрын
Heimerdinger actually can't die. No Yordle can die permanently because they are magical creatues that are eternal and respawn in Bandle City, which is their home realm.
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
this is not confirmed anywhere by Riot. As far as I know its a theory but happy to be proven wrong
@ubermaster134
@ubermaster134 3 ай бұрын
@entgrove it's pretty much why Vex is depressed and sided with Viego in the Sentinels of Light Event
@zedeon6299
@zedeon6299 3 ай бұрын
​@@entgroveit's in their lore, if they decided to retcon this then arcane is no longer canon to me
@guest_zzroman2076
@guest_zzroman2076 3 ай бұрын
​@entgrove When post rework Teemo kills a yordle in game, you know, using the voice lines that the people who don't read lore base their entire knowledge of Runeterra on, he says he'll see them back in Bandle City, can't get more canon than that.
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 3 ай бұрын
​@entgrove if it isn't canon vex will cease to exist her whole things is trying to find something that can make her stay dead.
@thatflyguykai
@thatflyguykai 3 ай бұрын
There was another cool detail with Maddie that you might've missed, when she fires at 12:17 and the impact frame appears, we can see that she was actually smiling on the inside. People think that since Mel is an empath her magic probably picked up on her true feelings
@davidschultz1987
@davidschultz1987 3 ай бұрын
I don’t actually see any smile
@thatflyguykai
@thatflyguykai 3 ай бұрын
@davidschultz1987 Go forward frame by frame when she shoots, you'll see it
@krumpits
@krumpits 3 ай бұрын
Super cool detail
@klajd6264
@klajd6264 3 ай бұрын
Duuude, no way I could ever find it on my own. Ty so much, crazy detail, adds so much to her character.
@W00WI3
@W00WI3 3 ай бұрын
@@davidschultz1987 It's a black and white frame, it shows a smile on Maddie's face
@GermanCutz
@GermanCutz 3 ай бұрын
Legitimately the best review and comprehensive deep dive of lore I’ve ever watched. Kudos man. I had to comment and just say this - your video making - is such a talent and I’m glad you’re doing. Keep these coming!!
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Cutz!!
@TheDanteBoots
@TheDanteBoots 3 ай бұрын
I never noticed Silcos hair among many other things. Man the details of this show are insane, It needs a rewatch to fully appreciate them.
@someone.2067
@someone.2067 3 ай бұрын
I reaaaallly hope that we'll see Jinx in the next series. Also about that piano guy. I guess you're right. They never focus on smth just for no reason. They focused a LOT on this guy, so i guess we'll see him too.
@AmarigeKentsu
@AmarigeKentsu 3 ай бұрын
By the way, if you remember Jhin: Mind of virtuoso trailer, you see that Jhin killed a girl at the beginning who got the same hair and necklace than Jinx and Vi mother.
@meatboy5714
@meatboy5714 3 ай бұрын
@@AmarigeKentsu that was sona
@AmarigeKentsu
@AmarigeKentsu 3 ай бұрын
@meatboy5714 at 0:19? How can it be Sona, she doesn't looks like her. It can be Sona only at 0:41 where we see smoke out of a mouth, but it's not the same person
@zeldaxninja3214
@zeldaxninja3214 3 ай бұрын
Wym series, ik there not making another season. Season 3 to be specific. So what u think they might do? Introduce her to another story?
@rylace
@rylace 3 ай бұрын
@@zeldaxninja3214 They're making new shows for different regions in Runeterra. Specifically, Ionia, Demacia, and Noxus were all confirmed as being in the next shows (3 more seasons of shows at least, idr if they said that part recently but in the past it was mentioned that they had originally set aside money and planned for 5 seasons of shows, including Arcane). Having Jinx presumably leave on an airship seems like obvious setup for her to show up in the future in one or multiple of these regions.
@sweettt321
@sweettt321 3 ай бұрын
The ending of this video made realize that it's not often I see youtubers talk about suicidal thoughts and tendencies. Something as simple as saying that that's not the answer and that people aren't alone can help at least one person. That was really lovely
@ClockworkGod
@ClockworkGod 3 ай бұрын
The ending for her is growing on me, but I do wish we’d seen Ekko and Jinx talk more before they joined the battle, I wanna see how she goes from trying to end it to assisting in the battle. In an interview Christian Linke also implies Ekko told her about the AU so that’d would have been interesting to see. And I wish "breaking the cycle" had been brought up a bit earlier? To me, given how I do feel season 2 was rushed quite a bit (they did cut it down from 5 seasons to 2 and I feel that you CAN TELL) they maybe should’ve brought this narrative up in act 1 or 2 already. But I do hope, even if she doesn’t reunite with Vi, she will at least do so with Ekko, Christian Linke did mention he felt the rekindling of their relationship (romantic or not) would be worth exploring moving forward with their story in an interview. To me I understand her leaving behind Vi (for perhaps both their sakes) but I feel that leaving Ekko behind completely with no intention of ever looking back kinda weakens Ep 7 a bit, and the significance of actually managing to save her this time (the boy savior).
@shabbacabba
@shabbacabba 3 ай бұрын
Caitlyn literally says "the cycle of violence will never stop" to Ekko in S1E7 to get him to agree to hand over the gemstone. It's also the line where we can see Vi really look and take notice of Caitlyn in a meaningful way. But, even ignoring that explicit mention of the idea of cycles of violence back in S1, the whole show has a very strong theme of violence only breeding more violence; suffering leading to suffering. Every time there is a big fight sequence in S1, it ends horribly for all involved, and only causes even worse violence later in season 2. It may not have always been explicitly stated, but the theme was there. Why does Jinx leaving make Ekko saving her in E7 less significant? She gets to live. He helped her find the will to live again. Just because they aren't going to be in each others lives moving forward doesn't make that any less powerful or meaningful, if you ask me. A life saved is a life saved. It's not about what Ekko gets out of doing it, it's about helping Jinx move on. With or without him. That's love, right there. Selfless.
@vrrrrrr6872
@vrrrrrr6872 3 ай бұрын
​@@shabbacabba unfortunately though he believes her dead. He lit that paper to her memory.
@CosmicSiren.
@CosmicSiren. 3 ай бұрын
​@@vrrrrrr6872 Some think that was for Heimerdinger
@nekofan4798
@nekofan4798 3 ай бұрын
@@shabbacabbapreach !!!
@monikapavlović-o6i
@monikapavlović-o6i 2 ай бұрын
​@@CosmicSiren. actualy it was Powder
@alexanderschimke5503
@alexanderschimke5503 3 ай бұрын
Something beautiful about the song Wasteland is that the lyrics throughout the whole song are “please let me go” until the two very last lines which are “don’t let me go”
@Skiii-fc2xw
@Skiii-fc2xw Ай бұрын
1:28 I KNEW I WASNT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW HERRRRR 😭
@Spectralyzed
@Spectralyzed 3 ай бұрын
Ekko doesn't hear those words from anyone, but he _learns_ that lesson from meeting alternate Powder.
@JavelinAngel1295
@JavelinAngel1295 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Ionia is the place that caused Jinx to be more quirky and wild than depressing.
@EdgyIntellect
@EdgyIntellect 3 ай бұрын
Ooohhh I like this!!!
@weirdtyler4932
@weirdtyler4932 3 ай бұрын
Your conclusion earned you a subscriber, you're the first creator I have seen acknowledge how Jinx's struggles could be a trigger for some people.
@carmenhelle
@carmenhelle Ай бұрын
You’re so wholesome! Loved watching this and you going all up into the nerdiness and lore and connections and getting lost and catching yourself - very raw and personal - love it :) was a joy to watch 😊
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment Carmen! :)
@content_deleted-sr5oq
@content_deleted-sr5oq 3 ай бұрын
"Jinx didn’t die-she transformed. She became the chaos she always feared and embraced it.
@poko9562
@poko9562 3 ай бұрын
11:12 hes prolly talking abt how he gave up on powder, he did say “learn” not “hear”
@littlebunse5
@littlebunse5 3 ай бұрын
I think Ekko learned "its never too late to build something new, for the right person" from his interaction with alternate timeline Silco and Jinx. That was the primary message he took away from them, because it rekindled his hope that he can save Jinx if Vander and Silco could forgive each other in that universe. Alternatively it could have been something his mentor Benzo told him once.
@rutiyafei9339
@rutiyafei9339 3 ай бұрын
‏‪11:22‬‏ He understood this from the relationship between Silko and Wander from the other dimension.
@nameredactedmessageretract7225
@nameredactedmessageretract7225 3 ай бұрын
Came to comment this exactly.
@xdani_thethinkingneko
@xdani_thethinkingneko 2 ай бұрын
19:30 This part, you added, was so sweet. I used to struggle with that as young teen- eary 20s. 🥺 you're right tho, it is not the answer. I always think about how much life I would've missed....😢
@MarcusMinix
@MarcusMinix 2 ай бұрын
I subscribed because that last bit got me unexpected but felt very genuine thank you for caring about others
@Draethar
@Draethar 3 ай бұрын
Christian Linke said they are working on 3 other shows set in Demacia, Ionia and Noxus. Riot is just playing 4D Chess right now. Get everyone invested in Runeterra (moving pieces into place) then drop the MMO! (CHECKMATE)
@misxfitx
@misxfitx 3 ай бұрын
well, tbf, he said the team is considering all those places, not that they're all in development. i found it interesting he'd mention demacia and not shurima, considering there are more lore implications in arcane s2 related to shurima than demacia, but they can always just start a new season telling a completely unrelated story without having to connect it in any way to the first two seasons. was just surprised by demacia mention
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Yes Draethar!!
@collecter343
@collecter343 3 ай бұрын
@@misxfitxProbably continuing the theme of the title where Demacia has a “complicated” relationship with mystical stuff.
@Draethar
@Draethar 3 ай бұрын
@@misxfitx I think there goal is to start a bunch of different story threads…
@Ch3z_Borgor
@Ch3z_Borgor 3 ай бұрын
Probably noxus is gonna be next, as hinted by the crow in the last
@fantommoe
@fantommoe 3 ай бұрын
Times I was brought to tears In Arcane. Season 1 finale. Isha's death. The season 2 finale just didn't hit the same...... until I watched your breakdown. Thanks for making a grown man cry at work... I mean the allergies... it's the allergies.
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
I too had bad allergies during arcane hah can relate alot to Alternate Timeline Benzo
@thedoomslayer5863
@thedoomslayer5863 3 ай бұрын
Idk seeing jinx and vi hug Vander in that scene was easily a top moment.
@jokur7
@jokur7 3 ай бұрын
10:34 I think when Ekko said always a dance with Jinx, he meant the only 4 moments they met as adults were all moments where Ekko really needed to exert physical movements: 1. First appearance of Jinx in season 1 where she fought the firelights from the shimmer loaded ship 2. When Ekko and the firelights invaded Jinx and Vi's reunion in season 1 3. Their battle on the bridge 4. The actual 'dance' in the alt. universe
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
I like this
@naiaramaitemaldonadoramire177
@naiaramaitemaldonadoramire177 Ай бұрын
Those were the only encounters we saw on screen, but Jinx and Ekko have been fighting for years, even the writer confirmed that she already knew his identity, but never revealed it.
@adarionjohnson98
@adarionjohnson98 2 ай бұрын
And I’m so glad I come to watch these bc I be missing the hidden messages so thank u for giving me another excuse to rewatch arcane
@entgrove
@entgrove 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like the videos adarion!
@eduaugustoads
@eduaugustoads 3 ай бұрын
19:32 The fact that you made this disclaimer is so wholesome
@poneill65
@poneill65 3 ай бұрын
Also, not only is that airship the exact same blimp artwork used in S1E1,.. it has one single difference,.. a clear BLUE line painted along the rear keel. S1E1 05m20s and S2E9 46m47s That girl (/Fortice) cannot help tagging shit!🙂
@wolfspirit21
@wolfspirit21 3 ай бұрын
I didn't notice that before. Just another nod, letting us know Jinx is alive. I love it. Great catch
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
wow how did I miss this!!
@sergioq123
@sergioq123 3 ай бұрын
I can’t see the line 😭😭
@poneill65
@poneill65 3 ай бұрын
@@sergioq123 go to 46m48s in S2E9,.. under the rear of the balloon and above the bronze metal keel, from the rigt thruster back to the rudder sail. In the S1E1 version of this artwork (5m20s), it's not clear blue, it's dark, maybe purple/blue. The writers made a deliberate change to the identical piece of artwork
@sweggieboi4928
@sweggieboi4928 3 ай бұрын
I'm not seeing it where exactly?
@Vawklin
@Vawklin 3 ай бұрын
Mind you, not only is there a Visual Cue for when Jinx uses her shimmer abilities. Also notice the Sound Effects (SFX) when she Shoulder Bashes Warwick, and when the pink streak moves offscreen during the explosion. Close to identical.
@chanelpearls
@chanelpearls 3 ай бұрын
Yup, plus the shimmer VFX comes from both eyes and if you pause the vid at 15:07 and look closely you will see that 2 purple lines converge into 1.
@sebastianfrieling655
@sebastianfrieling655 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for saving my day by explaining why Jinx didn´t die! Since Jinx has always been my absolute fave Arcane character I was somewhat desperate after that ending..! Good work!!!
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Sebastian! :)
@blamedtie2008
@blamedtie2008 25 күн бұрын
11:01 him saying this is a reference to how powder lost vi but didn’t go crazy like our jinx and became better because of that event
@heliopkad
@heliopkad 3 ай бұрын
this is by far and i mean BY FAR the best video about the ending and arcane in general...amazing content.
@yannkerzreho2850
@yannkerzreho2850 3 ай бұрын
Best work on arcane, I waited for it !
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
thanks yann!!
@ghislain7282
@ghislain7282 3 ай бұрын
Everyone: Jisnxs sick Ekko: I can fix her.
@maxgoud8885
@maxgoud8885 3 ай бұрын
I just finished s2 and I'm happy I watched this. Honestly the ending didnt feel too good for me, but with the extra league lore you gave at the end and all the flashbacks to s1 it becomes a lot more logical. So I want to thank you for making this video! Keep it up!
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Max!! Will do :)
@NoahVenesile
@NoahVenesile 2 ай бұрын
I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE THE DUCTS this whole time ive been thinking this show really ends with Jinx dying
@KrisDelaPena
@KrisDelaPena 7 күн бұрын
Love Arcane! The best part for me was deciding to watch Arcane even WITHOUT any knowledge of League of Legends itself! Which means, no spoilers and all was a new revelation/story for me, I started from scratch, 0 expectation and then was mind blown. Hands down the best anime and movie/series, from the music, action, storyline etc etc etc 🔥and Thanks for the amazing breakdown! Makes me even appreciate the whole lore and want to learn more! PS. ill have to do another rewatch!
@entgrove
@entgrove 6 күн бұрын
Glad you liked the video Kris! If your interested in Runeterra lore, be sure to check out my other videos!!
@BoredInMyBackyard
@BoredInMyBackyard 3 ай бұрын
0:35 I thought Jinx surrendered. Caitlyn also said to Vi the guards took Jinx away before she could process
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
surrendered but still threw her in jail. And you can tell from the way Caitlyn talks with her she thinks Jinx should be there. Not doing anything is still a choice kind of thing
@BoredInMyBackyard
@BoredInMyBackyard 3 ай бұрын
@entgrove fair yeah
@everforward5561
@everforward5561 3 ай бұрын
Fortiche doesn't put anything in unless there's a reason for it. Them having Caitlyn hold Jinx's toy while looking at escape tunnels inside the chasm they fall into absolutely hints at her finding a way to survive.
@KingNox6
@KingNox6 3 ай бұрын
I might be bugging but when ekko is talking to jinx doesnt it look like jinx dried tears look like VI's numerals backwards.
@Thenewkrookkud
@Thenewkrookkud 3 ай бұрын
Yeah IV. The 4 seconds for Ekko's Z-Drive
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
really cool call out, i didnt notice this!
@KingNox6
@KingNox6 3 ай бұрын
Someone also pointed out its the amount of times jinx tries to kill herself
@TAKIDEEZYY
@TAKIDEEZYY 3 ай бұрын
4 times i cried watching the show
@Micrologic404
@Micrologic404 Ай бұрын
You made a insane job here, please never loose such quality
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks Micro!!
@angeldjonev890
@angeldjonev890 3 ай бұрын
This video is just .... Beautiful. Thank you for sharing it
@fellpsyam8172
@fellpsyam8172 3 ай бұрын
I think Ekko say it to Jinx after he saw Vander and Silco on the other universe as friends
@o.d.d.343
@o.d.d.343 3 ай бұрын
11:05 the line Ekko says probably means "someone worth building it for" aka he was thinking about Powder from the other timeline, basically saying theres always someone worth building a better future for and sometimes you are also that someone(Jinx).
@IndividualTour1
@IndividualTour1 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Ekko is referring to AU Powder, and her willingness to help build the Z-drive despite her getting Vi killed in their timeline. - "That no matter what happened in the past,..." [AU Powder killing Vi with the hex crystal] - "It's never too late to build something new..." [refrencing Powder helping w/ the Z-drive, with Jinx even noticing her signature toy monkeys] - "Someone worth building it for..." [AU Powder building it for Ekko] That's at least how I interpreted his dialogue initially. Less so a statement he heard from somewhere, but more an observation from a better version of Jinx.
@blackouthorus1519
@blackouthorus1519 3 ай бұрын
Same here
@Maryln.Antoinette
@Maryln.Antoinette 3 ай бұрын
thought that was just general understanding
@jkranites
@jkranites 3 ай бұрын
Apparently he told her of her AU self and them….
@zewolfocanada
@zewolfocanada 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking it was AU Silco saying "the greatest thing we do in life, is find the power to forgive". Not as directly related, but close enough
@Thenewkrookkud
@Thenewkrookkud 3 ай бұрын
He's using that experience as a reference, but when he speaks about things that happened in the past, he's talking directly about them. It's a complicated dive into Ekko's character because while the "someone special" refers to AU Powder, he's also referring to his timeline's Jinx.
@nemezis23
@nemezis23 Ай бұрын
12:33 Powder drew these lines under her eyes as a child, when they played with Ekko on the bridge
@nexpic
@nexpic 2 ай бұрын
5:23 he say it to ekko 😂😂 he back in his timeline in a wink
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo 3 ай бұрын
2:04 Small correction, but there are at least two fundamental changes. One, of course, being Vi’s death which leads to Jayce’s Hextech research successfully being shut down. The other: Silco found the letter, forgave Vander, and never utilized Shimmer to take over Zaun. (Shimmer might still exist in some form, but it’s not widespread.) I’d argue that Silco’s forgiveness and the lack of Shimmer contributes more to Powder’s happiness than the prevention of Hextech. If Silco remains vindictive and cruel, Shimmer is produced, Vander gets kidnapped, and without Vi to lead the crew, the rescue may still fail. There might be no Hextech crystal for Powder to explode, but the fallout could still be just as traumatizing.
@Elena29564
@Elena29564 3 ай бұрын
Great video, i think she’s alive too. Her “death” felt pretty weird to me. I hope she becomes like an adventurer and we follow her journey through other regions. I hope she meets Lux. Regarding season 2… It did feel a bit fast and empty sometimes. I give it a 9/10 overall..
@Zalarian
@Zalarian 3 ай бұрын
If she did die, I personally don't feel it would be a weird death. I thought it was well done, personally.
@KeelahSelai161
@KeelahSelai161 3 ай бұрын
Jinx is not dead but her dead would be the only death that make most sense
@JustCauseFan
@JustCauseFan 3 ай бұрын
How was her death Weird, it was actually Perfect as end and redemption of her character arc I find it more weird that she suddenly decided „oh i want to live and leave Piltover leaving my sister in belief that i died“
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Elenea!
@kalinora3901
@kalinora3901 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see her and blondie meet. Perfect duo.
@wolferex4042
@wolferex4042 3 ай бұрын
The thing is I was like "Surely Riot wouldn't kill a character that is currently present in League, right?" But then ofc ambessa died and I knew they weren't afraid to league champions. But yeah Jinx along with warwick most probably are alive since they didn't spend too much time on jinx's apparent death + we don't see any dead body. As long as you don't see a dead body in films or series, They are 100% not dead.
@Flippohoyyy
@Flippohoyyy 17 күн бұрын
Finally a video that brings some hope about the ending in arcane, that little detail with jinx pink flash after she fell is such a clever detail. Thanks as well for actually caring about those who goes trough similar thoughts.
@flawlesspiner1674
@flawlesspiner1674 Ай бұрын
some of the catches here are really good. the hairstyle parallelism, the mise-en-scene callbacks, etc. etc.
@pepperoneyman14
@pepperoneyman14 3 ай бұрын
Glad someone else had the exact idea as me. I tried figuring out which direction the blimp was headed by trying to analyze the sun and horizon, any shadows we could see, and even the direction the wind is pushing the clouds. Ionia make that most sense, especially if Jinx wants to start over in a place of harmony. But like you stated, i dont think thats what she'll find with the noxus invasion there. If anything I feel she may get caught up in a Noxus vs. innocents in Ionia and just like she stepped up to protect Isha, she'll step up again to defend those who cant defend themselves against the Noxus threat. This then can tie into mel headed back to Noxus and maybe she gets pulled in that direction in an effort to try and remove the Noxus occupancy in Ionia and runs into Jinx.
@danelmore6553
@danelmore6553 3 ай бұрын
He learned it from "alternate" Power. No one said it to him, but it was the theme of episode 7. It is what he himself had to convince Powder of, to overcome her complacency with herself. Same sentiment here, same resigned psychological state, though resigned to different things because different Powder.
@n30sp4rk
@n30sp4rk 3 ай бұрын
I think one important detail during the scene of ekko trying to stop jinx is that the first time we see him there are particles around him, meaning he already used the Zdrive. We don't know how many times he rewinded time trying to stop her
@EmilijaKiaulakytė
@EmilijaKiaulakytė 3 ай бұрын
that one purple line just saved me so much tears T^T
@josephtenthousand
@josephtenthousand 3 ай бұрын
I’m so so so glad jinx is alive! Thanks for the video bro
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, thanks Joseph!
@andrewmason6245
@andrewmason6245 3 ай бұрын
It's possible that Ekko is going with her. "Genius and madness go hand in hand." Pretty sure the undercity still thinks Ekko is dead for the most part. He's built a community and can continue inspiring as an icon on that mural so he could disappear without making a huge stir. Biggest evidence though is at the menorial scene he only burns 1 name: Hemerdinger, who sacrificed himself to get Ekko home. With Ekko's feelings for powder there is no way he wouldnt burn a note for her. Also he isnt at the memorial on the bridge but tucked away from everyone hinting many possibilities besides the narrative relevance of that spot.
@iceking1580
@iceking1580 3 ай бұрын
No he was in the same spot he kissed powder. He thought jinx died and he burned it for her
@kevind3974
@kevind3974 3 ай бұрын
That or he stepped down. Scar took over when he was gone for what looked like 3 months to a year. He doesn’t need to lead anymore. Plus during the time he was gone scar made peace with the rest of zaun and possibly made it to the council with savika (he was invited to the war room and it would make sense for zaun to have multiple reps. 1 for each floor preferably. Just missing middle floor) so it’s not even like echos type of leadership’s needed anymore. The firelights are in politics now. They need someone who can play the game not play the people. Plus echos like 17 so I don’t even think he can be elected to the council.
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 3 ай бұрын
​@@iceking1580or it could be there to show that he still thinks of her and he is going to follow her.
@ayabouaziz8172
@ayabouaziz8172 3 ай бұрын
wow this really makes sens bro T.T
@JoaquinThomasSantillanRo-fz5mh
@JoaquinThomasSantillanRo-fz5mh 3 ай бұрын
But remember the line “to give a step forward you need to leave some things behind”. They are refering to her leaving ekko and zaun
@wilky7004
@wilky7004 3 ай бұрын
I think you missed one more piece of evidence of Jinx's survival was @16:20 if you play with .25 speed where "The End" sign was made by Jinx you can spot a dark hole above the right side of the scene that maybe the very bottom of the Hexcore Tower where Jinx may have escaped into. I really commend the writers for leaving several hints that she lives. Great video!
@iraj3137
@iraj3137 2 ай бұрын
this is an insane catch
@MegaPB4Life
@MegaPB4Life 3 ай бұрын
Incredible video man! Really enjoyed this and definitely gives me comfort in feeling there is far more evidence for Jinx being alive then dead. I'm totally okay if she's even just a cameo in the future series, just so long as we know she's alive I'll be happy.
@danvarx
@danvarx 3 ай бұрын
Dammit, i was tearing with the ending and why am i tearing now again. Arcane is so good. Jinx and Vi is such an awesome dynamic and the foreshadowing in this series is simply fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
@acej.d.2333
@acej.d.2333 2 ай бұрын
the last part of this actually felt really heartfelt oh my god ❤
@Muzensh
@Muzensh 3 ай бұрын
Ekko makes that quote himself. He basically rewound to find the perfect thing to say, and that’s what he came up with. He basically has Naruto’s “talk no jutsu” as long as he doesn’t die in his attempts to find the right words
@daemonsoadfan
@daemonsoadfan 3 ай бұрын
15:35 for the smile, it's one information that should have stopped spreading, cause she's smiling right after hearing vi singing. The timing matches exactly, and she turn her head toward that sound. for the rest, of course jinx is alive :D
@SPACE3JUICE
@SPACE3JUICE 3 ай бұрын
Finally! Someone saw that! 😅
@capsimp3064
@capsimp3064 3 ай бұрын
What I keep saying i genuinely do not know HOW ppl are missing this, like was their volume a bit lower??
@montevonwish7572
@montevonwish7572 3 ай бұрын
goated vid bro, I hope that the next series (prolly noxus) will include jinx as the ppl who watched want a "happy" ending. Like imagine jinx does arrive in noxus and at the end of the series she goes back to vi and ekko
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks monte!
@nanduboy1313
@nanduboy1313 Ай бұрын
thanks for that last part means more than you can know
@meeekael
@meeekael 3 ай бұрын
incredible video dude. thank you, i missed a lot and this really helped clean things up. a lot more impactful on the rewatch now.
@entgrove
@entgrove 3 ай бұрын
Thanks meekael!!
@pattoukun
@pattoukun 3 ай бұрын
this is the first video I saw form you, you hit me harder than isha. new fan over here
@noform-2463
@noform-2463 3 ай бұрын
Mel is going back to Noxus, she finds Jinx there, they got in trouble w/ Black Rose or Noxus (maybe both). Our crew from Piltover comes to help (Cait, VI, Ekko). We are introduced to Noxus and we keep our fav characters. WIN WIN Situation. Who knows maybe... They already did quite a lot of changes to lore, so why not go all in.
@masony2548
@masony2548 3 ай бұрын
excited to see where they go to next, praying to find the patience to wait for whenever that is going to be. Hope you're right about the jinx call and we get to see the sisters reunite sometime in the future. Would be insane.
@Julian.Lopez15
@Julian.Lopez15 2 ай бұрын
I wish all shows had this level of detail it would make everything better
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