Entrapment site aka Fatality site

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Peter Medal

Peter Medal

Күн бұрын

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@lightingbird5551
@lightingbird5551 Жыл бұрын
My Uncle helped design that memorial. He lived in Prescott at the time. Devastated him to the core. This memorial was his proudest.
@mroach7283
@mroach7283 6 жыл бұрын
it saddens me to hear anyone who is not a hotshot firefighter assign blame to the leaders of the men. from what i can read, Marsh was the first to see the flames in proximity to the crew. not only did the wind change direction but it was blowing 50 mph. they could not outrun the fire. Deployment was their only hope. the reason they left the black was because 3 of their escape routes had been compromised. They were not far from the designated safety zone of the farm house. that was their best bet. Had the direction and wind speed not changed they would have made it. this scenario will be picked apart for years and changes will be made. communication was primary in the tragedy. don't assign blame. their families don't deserve your ill informed opinions.
@1193bobmcc
@1193bobmcc 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely...and well said.
@mrhead6856
@mrhead6856 5 жыл бұрын
some people believe there experts on everything even though they probably have never done anything remotely as brave as being a firefighter
@Boojyman
@Boojyman 3 жыл бұрын
Leadership failed them. No need to make excuses. The fire moved a maximum 1-2 mph . They chose to surrender rather than make a run for it. Leadership had them shelter in an area surrounded by fresh fuel.
@firedawg7495
@firedawg7495 3 жыл бұрын
@@Boojyman Your wrong about the speed of the fire. At the time it surrounded them it was traveling at close to 10- 12 miles an hour. This is documented by the Accident briefing. Also the wind had shifted 90 degrees direction They had less then 2 minutes to deploy which included them trying to clear some of the area with chainsaws. (it can even be heard on video them doing this.)
@Boojyman
@Boojyman 3 жыл бұрын
@@firedawg7495 why did they have 2 mins warning ? Because they were moving into an unburned area with no spotter. They violated many basic wildland rules.
@jondavidbristow9819
@jondavidbristow9819 6 жыл бұрын
Very sad tragedy and loss of life that we will never be able to forget here in the Prescott area May all 19 hero's Rest in Peace
@jackkamisizian8597
@jackkamisizian8597 6 жыл бұрын
I live in Santee California never really heard about the story until I saw the movie I remember some firefighters dying in 2013 to didn't know it was 19 people these people are my hero God bless you guys all 19 of you and the family that lost their loved ones I will forever bleed and cry with you guys because that is just no way to go sorry to be honest it kills me to think of what happened to them and they will forever be in my heart
@afterdroid
@afterdroid 7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for posting this!
@jesse2323
@jesse2323 7 жыл бұрын
God bless these heros
@DJKATJAAPRADIO
@DJKATJAAPRADIO 6 жыл бұрын
RIP YOUR 19 HEROES AND 19 ANGELS
@markcrist6357
@markcrist6357 2 жыл бұрын
My prayers go out the family and friends
@ronharris91
@ronharris91 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck reading the ages of them fucked me up, so many young lads, may they rest in peace.
@efo1358
@efo1358 2 жыл бұрын
Paradise, Ca? Save everyone before the politicians give a speech about! 🙏❤️💯
@texastoast5202
@texastoast5202 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope they went fast. I assume the smoke and the pain from the flames knocked them out fast. Doubt there were any screams. Disturbing reading the autopsy reports
@GunRecon
@GunRecon 3 жыл бұрын
It likely was. the shelters would have failed with the fire on top of them. Once there's a breach, the oxygen and cool air gets sucked out. Interior gets superheated by the fumes outside, flash-boiling all the fluids in their body. Likely would have been a second of the worst headache of their life, confusion, and then nothing.
@texastoast5202
@texastoast5202 3 жыл бұрын
@@GunRecon Do you blame Marsh at all for what happened?
@gotziskoblach5918
@gotziskoblach5918 5 жыл бұрын
🙏 19 HEROES
@DJKATJAAPRADIO
@DJKATJAAPRADIO 6 жыл бұрын
YOUR IN HEAVEN NOW 19 ANGELS
@LC128
@LC128 6 жыл бұрын
Have a random question the crosses are set out in a odd way is that how they was found in there shelters
@noahdavidson8733
@noahdavidson8733 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the crosses mark where their bodies were located.
@squirleyspitmonkey3926
@squirleyspitmonkey3926 5 жыл бұрын
More specifically where their heads were.
@vvnutzvv
@vvnutzvv 6 жыл бұрын
regardless who is to blame but life is lost and if they were to blame then the paid the price as did the rookies! but they ARE all hero's to face such danger. May God bless them and family's for such a tragic end!
@arvos21
@arvos21 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank you for posting this.
@mikeggg1979
@mikeggg1979 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to hike this site one day. Is it a hard hike for someone who is not a hiker?
@markcrist6357
@markcrist6357 2 жыл бұрын
Some day I will visit that site.and pay my respects to theses men
@wingzfan102
@wingzfan102 6 жыл бұрын
When was this video taken? I was just there this past weekend and the containers filled with stone were covered in tributes which I don’t see any of in this video.
@harrisonschmidt7596
@harrisonschmidt7596 6 жыл бұрын
STLCardinals a
@mikeggg1979
@mikeggg1979 6 жыл бұрын
Are the crosses in the exact spots where their body was found? Great video.
@petermedal8468
@petermedal8468 6 жыл бұрын
Yes.....it is
@juliethompson6684
@juliethompson6684 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 💙
@manuelaigner5126
@manuelaigner5126 5 жыл бұрын
You can be sure they are in Heaven cuse if you put HotShots in Hell they would judt put it ou .......
@troylee2603
@troylee2603 4 жыл бұрын
I missed the point of the title of this video,,,,help me
@petermedal8468
@petermedal8468 6 жыл бұрын
www.prescottenews.com/index.php/news/current-news/item/31817-mike-rowe-returns-the-favor-at-granite-mountain-hotshots-memorial-state-park
@gregory2789
@gregory2789 7 жыл бұрын
why didn't granite mountain just run up to those boulders on the side when the fire came instead?
@fallguye6011
@fallguye6011 7 жыл бұрын
Greg Fellner That heat was so intense, those boulders cracked and the winds were heavy enough to have 70 foot high flames. Mix in a 2500-3000 degree blaze, they had no chance being surrounded by the blaze. Oxygen supply limited as well.
@kliving2
@kliving2 6 жыл бұрын
I was just there. The walls in that box canyon are much steeper than they appear in pictures and video. The fire was moving at 10-12 mph. There was no time to escape.
@mikeggg1979
@mikeggg1979 6 жыл бұрын
Greg Ory It was too late the fire had 2 flaming fronts, 1 basically took away the route behind them and the 2nd flaming front took away the ranch so they had no choice. They had less than 2 mins before the fire reached them. The medic who found them said only 7 were inside their shelters which meant fire overtook them before the rest could even get safe inside.
@GunRecon
@GunRecon 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeggg1979 Don't know how true that is. Likely what happened was the shelters were completely destroyed. They're not rated for that kind of heat.
@tiagofreefire2580
@tiagofreefire2580 5 жыл бұрын
Eu nasci no Brasil moro nós Estados unidos desde quando eles morreram
@squirleyspitmonkey3926
@squirleyspitmonkey3926 4 жыл бұрын
I presume 1:13 is where the ranch was that they were headed from, and at 1:36 is Travis marker, meaning the fire would have been coming from behind you (camera man). I think. I'd have to read the report again. Edit: at 2:05 you show Marsh cross, so it would have been coming from behind you then
@helenecaron7874
@helenecaron7874 6 жыл бұрын
Très triste☹
@sarahworld8903
@sarahworld8903 6 жыл бұрын
:(
@fredschoeffler8047
@fredschoeffler8047 6 жыл бұрын
I believe that both Eric Marsh and Jesse Steed are to blame with most of it on Steed because he was the Acting Supt., responsible for the safety and welfare of those men. Yes indeed they were secure in the black with pressure from marsh for them to leave. Steed resisted for awhile and finally decided to risk it so the GMHS could reengage. Marsh was the "one up" guy and with all the other Hot Shot Crews. It is documented that he was "Gung ho" and took far too many risks. I think he is about 20% to blame and Steed 80% for the other 18 deaths.The true heroes were the 4-5 first year Rookies that trusted their supervisors to protect them and do things safely. The movie made Marsh look like a hero and he was definitely not.
@michaelpapadopoulos4957
@michaelpapadopoulos4957 6 жыл бұрын
who asked for your opinion?
@Trumpetjoe40
@Trumpetjoe40 6 жыл бұрын
Not nearly as big a hero as you are Freddo. Yeah, I don’t fucking mean that.
@MaxTV-hd9wb
@MaxTV-hd9wb 6 жыл бұрын
So there is no account for the wind or any other variables like how stupid can u be ur obviously uninformed
@jondavidbristow9819
@jondavidbristow9819 5 жыл бұрын
Only thing to blame is mother nature and you obviously weren't there so stop talking out of your ass
@squirleyspitmonkey3926
@squirleyspitmonkey3926 5 жыл бұрын
There is zero proof of what you just said. Shut up.
@teenieneenie630
@teenieneenie630 5 жыл бұрын
Got motion sickness watching this video. Couldn't read most the names as the camera flew by so fast. Geez, these guys all died as Heros and you couldn't take an extra minute to "slow it down" dude!? It's a Memorial not a tourist attraction!
@GunRecon
@GunRecon 3 жыл бұрын
The pause button exists
@allanbeltran8205
@allanbeltran8205 2 жыл бұрын
@@GunRecon You are right. He could have just paused the video instead of writing that out.
@teenieneenie630
@teenieneenie630 2 жыл бұрын
@Annie497 Geeez, woman, its a 3 YEAR OLD COMMENT!!! Did you just wake -up??
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