A Weekend WASTED? Kill Team Octarius

[@AKKK1182]

The army painter barbed wire is actually sealing wire that you can get from a hardware/plumbing store for probably like 10x less.

[@cheshc00]

So true! - So much hobby stuff you can just get at a local hardware store. They need the money these days

[@ergonamix9977]

@@cheshc00 This! Why should I pay 20 - 30 USD for Army Painter's and GW's "sprue cutter" when I can go to walmart or hobby lobby and get a flush cutter for less than 10?

[@daveleddy1539]

Old guitar strings also usful

[@natertatertot6777]

I steal wire from my grocery store's floral department, but thanks

[@failtolawl]

are you telling me that I can make 10x profit through buying sealing wire and reselling - also its a sponsor and he gets them for free

[@awerges2205]

I think batch painting was more effective when we were working with the old GW models that basically looked the same. Nowadays, they are more individualized, so it doesn't save as much time as it used to do.

[@zirrian]

And a lot more different colors are used for all the small gubbins.

[@theriotartist]

The Thermos and Coffee cup extra parts for the Krieg made me smile more than they should have. The mold lines and overconnection of parts to the sprues quickly brought out my poker face.

[@demon1103]

yeah i don't know what was with this box set but it seems to be mold line city.

[@craigjones7343]

Over connection? You are a sprue designer?

[@NottsModeller]

The side connected korps helmet connections were so poorly placed.

[@travis8106]

The ork half of the box brought my poker face back even quicker. Every model had parts on all of the different sprues so finding each part took way too long as I was assembling.

[@DarkDrake5481]

Okay. I totally agree about the batch painting not being faster. I think that doing a base coat for something like an entire space marine armor is worth doing batch. But then doing pouches etc I find batch painting I miss things and end up having to go back and fix them when I discover it. I would love to see an experiment on that for a video.

[@Myserieden]

I agree about a video about this. You always hear about batch painting being faster and more efficient. I could see where doing all the base coating in a batch working, but as said above, beyond that the details would become rushed and sloppy. I’m a slow painter regardless. So I’m curious if there’s be a difference with someone who’s already faster.

[@Dracodomin]

I think it becomes faster as soon as you start tacking on washes. Since they take a while to dry, you can save a lot of time waiting for 6 to dry instead of 1 at a time

[@crossbones8956]

I feel the same way. I don’t think I’ll do more than 4 or 5 minis at a time ever again. I’m finishing a box of German Grenadiers for Bolt Action and I’m spending more time going back and fixing things than would have had I just done a few at a time.

[@cinnabarsin4288]

There probably is an efficiency factor that's potentially improved but it's so much more tedious. For me it loses the fun factor a lot faster and I find myself a lot more dissatisfied with the results I'm getting.

[@seanwarren9357]

It really depends on the scale of operation. Doing 10 small models is definitely not worth the effort, unless you're already set up for that kind of process and used to it. That said, it could be worth doing just to learn better process control, but that's a subject for another time. 🤔

[@thelinsky2319]

I am working on several teams at once. Finished the Necrons (Warriors, Immortals and Deathmarks) & Space Marines (Intercessors with different Boltrifles and Grenade Launchers, Assault Intercessors and Reivers) and started on a cheaty Custodes Box, just for the lols. Left to do after that are Tau, Deathguard and Imperial Guard.

[@noah4868]

Same mate, keeps the diversity in the painting haha.

[@iankay4915]

My OCD self died when you took that scalpel diagonally across the box lid…it will be my ‘silence of the lambs screaming’ moment :)

[@mikemcateer4685]

I am really on the fence about batch painting. My limited experience so far is that priming and base coats as a batch are faster but when your layering and adding fine details I prefer one at a time as I miss less stuff. I’ve got the kill team box but haven’t even had the time to open it yet. My current painting is on space wolves and when that’s complete I would like to try contrast paining some blood angels. I love the way you only care how you want them to look.

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

Space wolves kill team, or for big 40k?

[@mikemcateer4685]

@@isaiahfurrow7414 for big 40K

[@mr.miniaturesmodels8465]

Jay- I’ve said it before; I’ll say it again- you are a BEAST! Awesome production; you really get the show-don’t-tell of cinema and it’s paying off.

[@TheKsalad]

Zealot covered in purity seals is so simple yet I've been wracking my brain FOR WEEKS on how to build my non-krieger veterans.

[@distortionfiend]

I won't even lie. Jihad played a few hours of 40K before built up my Krieg but I shit you not, witnessing how beautifully the overcoats and legs fit together on these models absolutely blew my mind!

[@beowylfen]

I play Skaven in AoS and I find that batch painting really helps with stuff like Clan Rats. Where you have like battleline 60 models that no one is really gonna look to hard at.

[@adammoore251]

Well done, thats quite the slog. They look fantastic. Thanks for the bases I will definately do that.

[@KJ-ud9uf]

Ive got my set and just started it, ive got a 3 day weekend going on. This has inspired me to get this set done so i can play it right away.

[@Veles343]

I'm looking forward to moving pentagon myself but triangle and square are good too

[@fizzyheart2486]

Water bottle with beans. Best paint handle you can ask for. The beans keep the center of mass at the bottom and make it easier to stabilize the mini when painting.

[@KillTeamHungary]

Paying full price? Boohoo, welcome to "being a plebian like the rest of us Jay".

[@TheMambojack]

"aaaaah... It's getting late..." 4:30 am : Me, looking at the clock : yes... but no.

[@bensinclair129]

Subtitles say you're working on your 'Jeans Dealer Cults'. That would be an interesting army!

[@leeperry7068]

hahahah, my heart stopped when you opened the box by dragging the exacto diagonally across the front like that.

[@variableaxis9652]

The box me and my friend split came with the books damaged and some of the ork bits broken and loose in the box, despite all that the models still look really good. Now I just need to paint my half

[@vectorshaman338]

You absolute maniac! So well done and beautiful team! I'm building 5 teams at once, Krieg, Death Guard & Tau. Necrons and Orks are done. As if the ork terrain in the box wasn't enough I added a Sanctum Administratus building, the sector imperialis ruins, and transterranic gantries. Was going to add another admin building, but I feel like waiting til they announce something new.

[@mikaelpettersson2052]

Haha. You are so funny😆 And loved every bit of the paintjob.

[@nevilovermann797]

I got into Kill Team just recently. All the big boxes were gone from the market (except the starter kit) and Betha decima was still a ways off. I managed to buy a Gallowdark Killzone and have eventually gotten hold of the separate bigbox-specific terrain pieces for the gallowdark season, but It still pains me that I missed out on this box. The terrain is just insanely cool, and the content is so complete. The starter set, while an amazing deal, is still kind off a "kill team lite" experience. You have to expand it fairly quickly. Man this box was great!

[@Malachi57]

With all these rushed paint schemes, you could do a great video on how to go back to previously painted minis and take them from a 5 or 6 to a 9 or 10. Would be interesting to see the difference.

[@peterblandtastic3363]

I magnetized every option of the Octarius box minis. It took a long time. Worth it. Now I am confident on my ability to magnetize anything.

[@markosadnick]

I work at a FLGS - I always call it James Workshop and it has caught on. Now I know that it was subconsciously beamed into my brain by Jay... 11/10 slapped the shit out of the subscribe button.

[@JeffereyShoop-ru6zz]

Perfection is a road not a destination. I appreciate your style and dedication. I want a tshirt thst says done ISH. Three years later my box is still sitting on thr shelf filled with untouched sprues. My baby is still growing up. Yy for all you do mate. Some of us live vicariously

[@dinolandia8978]

Wow! First time I'm hearing about the baking soda trick. I like it.

[@Zetsthamys]

"Plasma pistol was part number 69. That must be a good omen."

[@Wertgeber]

Im really happy you like the new Kill Team. A friend and I started it togather and we like it a lot. Also a nice way to get my old models to the board as I never had enough models for 40k

[@dcsk8ertiggs89]

Putrid blight kings** it’s an AoS thing, you wouldn’t understand. 😂😂 thanks for the shoutout!

[@tylerpeck9754]

I go back and forth with the batch painting theory.. I think it honestly depends on what you are painting.. It seems to work at times and then other times it doesn't.. It's a weird paradox??? I think I agree with the consensus that the base coat and major parts of minis that it works but once you get to the details its easier to do one at a time as I often miss things too like others have said!

[@boxcarTV]

just built this (my first warhammer buy ever) and your speedrun here was so helpful whenever i ran into weird issues. now i have to paint them

[@TheMiniJunkie]

Great results - the models themselves are really good, and the basing is nice and thematic for them.

[@MrSteelface96]

nah batch painting is the way to go for speed. Way more time to switch paints than to switch models. But with that said batch painting just feels like you're not getting anywhere since you're doing the same step over and over, which is meh.

[@EonsOfBattle]

I will definitely be running an experiment in the future! I am not convinced!

[@samsowden]

I think the wet palette kind of kills the switching paint argument. All the paint is there all the time.

[@Sturmensky]

@@samsowden Potentially. I can see an argument being made for extra time spent cleaning your brush slowing you down (though you should always clean your brush regularly, even if you aren't changing colours). I think the main benefit of batch painting is the rhythm. If the models are similar, you're almost always doing the same motions. That means less time figuring out what to paint, where to paint, etc. I think batch painting is good for large sections (e.g., armor, coats) and pieces that are uniform across all models. But I'll do fiddly bits (e.g., pouches) model-by-model.

[@yoyoyo9669]

what a fantastic job! such good work man congratulations you deserve a huge pat on the back!

[@shanefrancis34]

Love the barbed wire on those bases

[@philsayer2447]

I love the way you said "I'm working on my ORKS"

[@technotrousers381]

Super late, and actually the third time I've watched this heroic effort. I recently finished my krieg assembly, and had a real objection to the instructions! Some kitbash and conversion later, I have a sarge with bolter, bolter Confidant, all the gunners and a converted Zealot that can optionally include the doctors bag or demolitions kit to round out all possible specialists! And James has finally announced the standalone guardsmen box so I'll be able to build all the melee guys and some standard troopers soon.

[@AnnieAturday]

Batch painting the full 9 is the issue, I did one to completion to make sure everything worked, and then I split the rest of the 9 in half 4 and 5, and batch painted them that way. You see them all come together sooner so it feels like less of a slog, but you still get the benefits of batch painting. As for the Last question mine is Sgt. w/ power sword and Plasma Pistol Confidant with Bolt pistol and chain sword Gunner with Plasma Rifle Gunner with Flamer Hardened Veteran Medic Demolition Vox Spotter Sniper I can't wait for them to show up on EoB complete :)

[@ezechielveloth6724]

Hey, quick low budget tip: you can find miniature sized barbed wire as "security seals double wire" from ebay for 20 dollars per100 meters, wich is pretty neat price, the stuff is exactly the same as army painter's thing, just be carefull of what diameter you choose ! this saved me for my trench board project

[@williamamely7038]

Thanks for sharing, Jay. The krieg models look great. Best of luck with Kill team.

[@harkinsaquatics]

Love that they are the 69th. The blue you chose also make it seem like they are on a frozen or ice world which is a nice contrast

[@dominicsevilla1189]

Every time they have to go "pick up their misshipped box" makes me laugh so hard

[@CJFC]

I’ve suspected batch painting being slower, especially if you only have one painting handle and have to swap the minis in and out. Also, army painter barbed wire makes really good rebar if painted and sticking out of concrete. Models look great as usual. I hope your group switches over or at least gets to try the new edition soon! It’s the most fun game system GW has put out imo.

[@TheMadYetti]

after some fomo, i struggled to buy/not to buy this. now i'm so happy that i didnt added another box to my "to do" pile.

[@philurbaniak1811]

That wire effect is so good! 😮👍

[@robm3007]

Beep ....beep ...... beep I am so mesmerised watching your videos really enjoy them beep ..... beep great work 😉👌👍

[@joshpickering5039]

Damn.. the casual nature of you running your knife down the front of the box 😳😬 is not want to damage the box tbf

[@knoepert666]

Just discovered this channel, i love your energy good job dude

[@TimZoet]

One question I have is; why build the model before painting? I always have the issue of not being able to access details because arms or weapons get in the way, and not getting a good angle to paint

[@chipmercury]

Oh hey! that was my Grey Knight!! :D

[@Paintedfigs]

Brilliant. Well done, Maestro!

[@hacknslash318]

Great video. I use double sided carpet tape rather than the 3m DS tape to hold my models for painting. I believe this is much cheaper to use and seems to work equally as well.

[@willjacobs7779]

I've decided to try my hand at batch painting my Delaque gang, and whilst I'm not really sure if i'm saving myself time, I am finding it to personally be a painful, dull process filled with a lot of 'Oh shit i forgot to do those little cuff links again'

[@jaybberwocky]

I will never be able to refer to GW as anything but "James Workshop" like he's a personal acquaintance after watching this video.

[@aaronjex7943]

Time well spent, they look fantastic!!

[@wolfgone9377]

That is awsome work good job👍🏾 on the models.

[@mikedaknight8854]

Done-ish?!?!!!? 😂 this dumps on so much out there and you bashed them out in a weekend. Magnificent painting

[@hunterwolf8266]

I will say. Even though I've only painted 1 model as of this comment being made I am really thankful for these type of channels for giving helpful tips. I hope gw doesnt take these

[@stewardofthewoods]

First dip back into the hobby in 20 years. My krieg load out is: Vet. Sgt. Plasma pistol, chain sword. Gunner plasma Gunner melta Gunner grenade launcher Spotter Medic Bruiser Flamer 2 troopers. I had to kit bash to get all the gunners as there wasn't the left arms to do it. Doing the orks next week.

[@PerfectionHunter]

Please Please Please do several videos when you paint all the terrain as well! And please, if you would start out by covering everything with a rusty brown base color and then add different color chipped paint to the "formerly painted" areas, to make it all really gritty, oil stains and what not, that would be super awesome! Love your videos

[@markhickson1066]

I like the look you created on the kill team, good job.

[@MeepMeepZeep]

I had purchased a box of battle sisters for KT1 and I’ll be carrying them over to the new version

[@jarcuadanantus28]

Closed Caption: Kilty Mac Terrace. I'm gonna name a mini this. Kilty Mc'Terrace

[@B__C__]

Thinking about building a set or two of Kreigsmen as heretic Nurgle-worshiping guardsmen maybe kit-bashed with some zombie bits and skulls. I think they could make for some really thematic looking cultists for a mixed Deathguard/demon warband. My personal kill team though is going to be ork kommandos--probably with head swaps--the new ork heads are so small. How are they gonna chin-butt anyone with those little eldar chins? I've had a love of the sneaky gits for about six 40k editions now. 😉

[@k-dog495]

Fantastic looking team, nice work!

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

I don’t think that batch painting is "faster" necessarily, I do think that it results in a more consistent final product when your trying to do things like Tyranids who are basically the same thing over and over.

[@longhairedmoron]

0:40 i can’t be the only one to hear “james workshop”

[@dodgy_jammer281]

I personally wouldn’t have done the last layer of blue on the helmets, the gritty grey of the helmet looks brilliant but like you said you’ve done how you want and they look amazing either way

[@aggravatedackbar1183]

Nice job! These guys look beautiful!

[@internetman1213]

8:58 laughs in Citadel Base Paint iron Hands Steel

[@michaelspitz9151]

Waiting in the lunch line… gotta do something tho.

[@waynebellamy4749]

Fantastic job dude those look awsome 👍

[@davemorris7845]

Impressive stamina my dude!

[@lestatsev]

I usually put on some high energy music , like power wolf and just go helps keep me high energy too

[@M1tZk1]

Uncle Atom would say that bunch painting makes sense but only in moderation. Like 3-5 models max. Otherwise it's easy to reach a state where you get bored or don't feel much accomplishment. Try out bunch painting fewer models next time. Maybe 1 prototype model and than 3 sets of 3.

[@TheKsalad]

I burnt through the Terrain, Orks, and Kriegers done in 3 days, one day spent for each

[@seanwarren9357]

16:24 None of the above. I got a resin printer and make models at a 100:1 ratio compared to GW's economic model so I can afford to make more models, play more games and work less hours to buy models. And what's better is I get to sculpt and design more of my own stuff rather than someone else's designs, making every creation truly my own and a unique contribution to my competitors gaming experience. 👍 Great paint work there, buddy, they look awesome!😎

[@lt.branwulfram4794]

Once I get the new Combat Patrol Grey Knights, I’m building that Kill Team: Justicar with Nemesis Halberd Warrior 1 with Nemesis Daemonhammer Warrior 2 with Nemesis Falchions Warrior 3 with Nemesis Force Sword Gunner with Psycannon

[@EonsOfBattle]

sounds awsome! I want to build so many kill teams!

[@DIncognito]

I'm excited to bring a new death guard kill team and probably use some of the ones I got out of the dg hero space marines box. But I'm excited to put my kriegers together, too.

[@TheFunkCrusader]

I used the same barbed wire on my team. The stuff looks great!

[@MrMoustaffa]

Built both as an IG and ork player. Actually ended up buying a second box, ironically mainly because of the terrain in addition to the teams. Ill give the books and other kt extras to whoever in my group shows interest most likely. Cant wait for the krieg line to be fleshed out and the other kits to be released. Theyre not the exact same as the fw sculpts but they did a great job all the same. If GW does a plastic krieg army box in the future it will put many IG players in the poorhouse. Also the kommando kit is what the beast snaggas and new boyz kit should have been. Theyre excellent. Other than the nob they can be really flexible with a little work and they just look excellent.

[@jakerubino3233]

Plasma Pistol part 69 eh - and when you finally give up playing with miniatures, a lovely lady might let you participate in that with her! 😉😆 They turned out pretty nice btw! 🤘🏻

[@ghostwalker85]

That AP Barbwire is acually called Security seal wire. And if you are an club or an group buying an larger roll would be cheaper and split it. Or if you know anyone who puts security seals on stuff they probly give you a few meters for free.

[@jinx8624]

Appreciate the dedication

[@mattbaxter688]

Great work, can't wait to take 3 months to paint up mine at half the quality

[@duke1252]

I am going to play devils advocate by saying, batch painting works. How exactly? Well you slather on base coats first, then do finer details after. I play Necromunda more than Kill Team, and since I wanted to be an advocate for the game, I bought all the gangs (even the dark uprising box) and most of the bounty hunters. I painted everything, the terrain was a separate, and I painted all eight gangs, and ten bounty hunters (not including my own hired guns), here's a few things: worry about finer details later, stick to one or two base coats, make leathers one or two different colors, make most metals one color, and do very little basing. Specially since the Necromunda bases are suppose to be industrial. But, I do say I like the result of these Kreig Guardsman color scheme, and I may end up just buying the men separately. Otherwise 10/10 and needs more Dakka and Big Shoota's

[@kosachilles2504]

Great video!

[@ishkabible1028]

Looking forward to playing new version. Have to expand my Sisters kill team and going to start a Talons one.

[@EonsOfBattle]

I am really excited to run a all Repentia kill team, they are pretty fragil in game but they hit like a tone of bricks!!!!

[@darkusandtoast2207]

10:01 so..... You have the camera go beep every 5 seconds because you obsessively need to know it's on. But when the camera dies you don't do anything because you don't like the beep beep? Like just get a little piece of paper to reflect the recording light or attach it to a computer so you can see the live feed.

[@BillWD]

Thanks for great videos as always Jay and team. I have a catachan army and with the advent of the new guard codex, I am including a kill team krieg Regiment as veterans into my catachan army. Therefore I am going to follow similar steps to you but with a green pallet over a blue. May I ask, I can never get hold of nuln oil, it's always out of stock. I have been using a black ink wash as an alternative. A) is there much difference between nuln oil and black ink wash? B) I am a fan of of vallejo paints. Is there an equivalent of null oil that vallejo, army painter etc do? Thanks.

[@rosarialeah]

Batch Painting is super effective, I took what normally would've taken 10 hours painting each figure on its own, into 5 hours by batch painting

[@Materia-Hunter]

Great job! They look great!

[@masongrae5010]

The specialist actually look pretty awesome and have given me some ideas for my own Kreig

[@savagex466-qt1io]

Iv only played warhammer 40k a few times. Lost every game but 1 so fun. So id imagine Kill Team would be a blast as well ? A game were you have a blast if you lose is my type of game :D

[@iconthe7324]

glad you posted a video on octarius the day after i asked you about it XD

[@jasonmolenaar119]

I have a catachan jungle fighters kill team with 5 tempestus scions, a 16 man kitbashed kill team and a deathwatch kill team that was a veteran box and kill team cassius. I also have a secret kill team in the pile of opportunity

[@Charlie.G506]

do not feel bad, these krieg are looking wonderful man!

[@EonsOfBattle]

yah they do!

[@Nick_Whiskey]

I dislike putting figures together and painting them - this is how I actually paint my figures. I paint all of the same models of the same type at the same time, one color at a time. I really don't care if I miss details or if it doesn't look that great since nobody can actually see anything from the sides of the table anyway (let's be real were all in our 40s), and I only care about playing the game. I just pumped out an entire 1000 point cities of Sigmar army in less than a day doing this, and I'm very slow and lazy.

[@samsowden]

Small batches of about three are the way to go for me. Any less and it takes for ever, any more and I go nuts