40k Replacement Starter Sets! Better or Worse?

[@EonsOfBattle]

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[@totalCoolerUsername]

Building and painting the small starter set only with the box content paints sounds like a cool challenge

[@brothersgrimdark]

I was thinking the same. Could be a good video trying to do it with a few sets new and old. Do it @eonsofbattle

[@MrShukaku1991]

Yeah. The gaunts should be decently easy, having an off white and purple in the box, but the space marines are going to need some work.

[@brothersgrimdark]

@MrShukaku1991 yeah mate 100% You could get something decent I guess at least you have black and white. Box art is a stretch though. I know im not good enough for that

[@H_elios]

It's a really bad brush from my experience. I guess that part of the challenge

[@escplan1011]

Challenge? I’m doing that right now with the Necrons and Space marines starter set because I’m new to the table top 😭

[@PaintsOnA4Up]

I remember when working for GW I had to paint the 8th Ed starter set using only the paints you could get in the starter boxes. It was fun 😅😂

[@souledgar]

Bwuh? The starters before 10th didn't come with paints. Did you mean the paint/tools set or paint set with like 3 models sold separately?

[@PaintsOnA4Up]

@@souledgar yes I did mean that. They were still starter set 😅

[@6dragondaddy913]

Ripper Swarm is now part of the Gaunt squad, they're on the same data sheet.

[@Denbot7]

Man, the Warcry Team seem so passionate and creative. Everything they’ve done is just so good. And it worked for me! I have finally decided to jump in and start playing that game. It has some of the best and most interesting models and rulesets out in the GW range.

[@JMcMillen]

The new Warcry starter set war bands appear to be around 600 points each, so there might be some small rule changes for smaller games. I want it as I like the terrain and was already considering getting a 2nd Crimson Court for use in other games.

[@carysage]

Picked up Leviathan last night. Came home from work to find my Artis Opus texture pallet and dampening pad had arrived. Then I turned on KZbin and found a new Models and Memories... This weekend is off to a good start!

[@goggler2]

I bought the necron starter set last week getting back into Warhammer. Glad i did, got way to many tyranids already.

[@commodusleitdorf2726]

GW actually did release that Warcry mat in a 4x4 version back in early AOS, I believe 1st edition around when they also release the rules for Skirmish. Its been OOP for years now and it wasn't cardboard or neoprene but cloth. To this day I regret not buying it.

[@StarMarker6559]

LETS GO new Eons of Battle upload!

[@magnusmillerwilson]

Command Edition is what hooked me on 40K during COVID, and I still appreciate how awesome it was.

[@martinturner5484]

Funny you should mention it. I'm currently trying to 3d print some box inserts for underworld to do exactly that. Its an actual board game and I want to treat it as such.

[@lizadon0740]

Always a great way to start a Friday.

[@OurCognitiveSurplus]

You 100% need to get that starter set and go all in using it to paint box art style

[@alphajank8052]

So the thing they did is put both combat patrols Inside the ultimate starter set

[@seanm8337]

Jay, please make a video of you painting a major mini, it would be the greatest collab of all time

[@colbybastian17]

Omg I LOVE nemesis. I use those models as Nids proxies in OPR. They're gorgeous and paint up so well.

[@WarlockOfWiFi]

The Barnes and Noble boxed sets have those vacuum formed holders

[@mikewicked.x]

GW also released a couple of Neoprene Blood Bowl mats when they brought that back too - 2016ish.

[@odharrison23]

Brown dirt is the 2023 version of tan sand. I wish GW had a box organizer. Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

[@somerandookay6999]

I got my spacemarine combat petrol team using the medium starting box. I traded the tyranids at my local game shop for the Librarian i needed to finish it.

[@Imeran]

I have an official GW neoprene mat. It's called "Battle Mat: City Ruin" and has a weird size at 4'x4' when their table size was still 6'x4' at the time. Unsurprisingly, it didn't take off...

[@riley.mclaughlin]

Jay painting the starter set would be a good vid

[@walktxrn]

Battletech Box Sets come like you're talking about, they don't quite have vacu-form plastic to hold everything, but everything in each of the boxes will fit back into the box. The standees are really nice too because they just collapse back down to 2D. Beginner box is basically a board game hiding the fact that is gateway dru... I mean game into the MechWarrior/Battletech universe ;)

[@BlUsKrEEm]

Song of Ice and Fire's vacume form plast is pretty nice

[@krlecool8445]

Twilight Imperium has a good box on its own but there is a company that makes MDF holders for cards and what not.

[@jack-a-lopium]

You could incorporate that terrain into your ad read for that company: Terrainspace, or is it Squarespace? I'm not sure...

[@Xatxitor]

My favorite game to initiate people to wargames is summuners war. Easy to explain, ballenced and variety of factions

[@_Qan]

I managed to play a couple of games on the paper mat but not without almost ripping it in half

[@84jesterx]

I'm going to have to grab that first 10thE starter set. Did some eBay pick & choose purchasing and I don't have the Flamethrower Marines yet. Weirdly I could definitely use more Mcgragge Blue. Somehow I finally used all of my previous pots up since I started last June. And then 10 more termagants as icing on the cake. After that, I should be good with Leviathan! Now that new Warcry one? I will be pre-ordering ASAP!

[@Proto1Dude]

The new terrain is less weak once you realize that is 100% a field base from Starship Troopers. You can't change my mind.

[@B1-997]

Paint the marines military grey, the nids in warrior bug colours and all set with starship troopers vibe.

[@Volucan]

Love the vids man! The wife and I used those box inserts as terrain when we first started. But yea love the reviews!

[@k1ngdeth]

While Jay was listing the things he wished wargames would do to fit everything into the box from 16:16 onwards, my eyes just kept drifting to the Battletech: Alpha Strike box set sitting on my shelf. Which for the record has kinda done much of what he's describing...

[@kalebs6201]

Personally the new ultimate starter set appeals to me, if only because i bought two of the old so the new terrain will add more diversity to my collection

[@magnusmillerwilson]

Totally agree. I’ve been trolling eBay and there are NO DEALS to be had. I’ll have to look for some bugs, though!

[@darrellslover6834]

i just bought leviathan box set and they didnt include the dang data sheets for the miniatures that came in the box we got some crappy black and white sheets , they didnt have everything you need to play, and that sucks

[@GloriousGrunt]

Ripper swarm mess up intentional?

[@emilianoortiz8795]

Hopefully my friend finally saves money and we get the middle set at least.

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

Frankly, I wish they just included a Lieutenant and a Lictor in exchange for the paints and brush, its kinda boring to start out with 5 basic marines and basic bugs, slap a cool character in there to spice it up. Keep the nippers though, that's a really nice addition.

[@olympical843]

they used goldpaint but didn´t include any color for that so that will be intresting

[@marcusthethief3947]

Gw did a few vacuformed inserts with the fireteam (mini killteam) and bladeborn (mini warcry)games

[@mikewicked.x]

For Gorechosen too.

[@nickcoleman9618]

Chainsword/pistol Intercessors are so much more general purpose than all flamethrowers Intercessors, much better for a starter set imo.

[@Willabrador]

Superb as always Jay!

[@NecroGoblin-yl2fx]

well a bit sad that we only get one of the 3 weapon options for the Termagants, and it is the worst option now that we don't pay for weapons.

[@alicadus]

You can get the warcry minis in underworld

[@dextersamson8286]

No 💩

[@richardthomas5134]

They made neoprene BB mats

[@isaacstokes3132]

Hey question as someone who has only ever bought the ultimate starter sets instead of the full box (eg leviathan), do they re release leviathan again? It’s just that me and a mate wanted to split the box, but we didnt get our pay checks until this week, and we r now looking for a copy that isn’t RIDICULOUSLY marked up in price

[@majorair1]

Unlikely. Indomitous didn't come back

[@timunderbakke8756]

It’s not coming back, but depending on where you live you can still find ones not marked up. I can find one for under $250 USD (and 250 was the msrp) within a couple of mouse clicks.

[@isaacstokes3132]

@@timunderbakke8756 i did find a couple but I’m in the uk, and all of the places I’ve found either wherent shipping to the uk, looked pretty suspicious as resales or where close to £400. Thx for telling me tho

[@viniciusvieira5824]

Fireteam?

[@mememachine6022]

My dad got the introductory set right before 10th came out. He just wanted to be able to play with me as im already collecting sisters. I cant bring it over me to tell him he got tricked into buying the outdated one :[ dick move from the employees

[@lv100Alice]

i don't wamt gw terrian in my boxes. let me make my own

[@Rock-pq6so]

those nipper are very good

[@gaborboth3602]

They tried a mat for AoS, it was a square box with a fugly eight-point star sort of design for lots of money. Meh.

[@Ulrican414]

I have a big Kruleboyz army. It's a shame the rules suck.

[@wikyWargaming]

Looks like a squig to me!

[@Amos-61]

Am I really the only person to use the little mats in the 9th edition starter sets ?

[@gaz3602]

I've got all 3 of the starters and stapled them to the tables we use

[@Amos-61]

@@gaz3602 I don't have them stapled, the weight of the terrain I use is enough to keep it flat, I really like that they are 22"x30", it means that I can put two side by side and they're the exact width and length for a game of combat patrol (44"x30")

[@MrRoman0629]

Uploaded 56 seconds ago. Perfect timing

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

Jay, I have to warn you. You said you wanted to do it just for the lolz, but there’s nothing funny about getting crabs from Games Workshop. It’s all fun and games at first, but think about your loved ones, and the shame they’ll feel when they hear that you got the crabs from GW. And not because you love GW, but because you thought it’d be funny. And where does it end? It might start out as a joke, but what’s next, getting Chlamydia from Mantic? Gonorrhea from Tamiya? I’m not saying that you can’t have fun, but just take a minute to think before you bring something home. It’s not worth the risk. PS- there’s a reason why Games Workshop and Genital Warts have the same initials…

[@matthewbull3688]

Nemesis! I love Nemesis! I see no value in the middle 40k Starter box. You're so close to two Combat Patrols. GW should've just made that the same two CPs and the 'Ultimate' has terrain.

[@Dominik189]

Personally I think most of the starter sets are better as sets to play OPR Firefight than actually play Warhammer

[@DAN-bj9hf]

ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 한국에서 구할수가없네요.. 어디서살수있나찾아보는데 쉽지가안네요..

[@colinmorgan2511]

I may Accidentlly get my 9 year old Nephew into Warhammer, By accidentally giving him Space marine on his PS3. It'll be completely by accident, and no I don't mind mind buying him , one of these starter sets.

[@Xaintrix]

Wow that terrain is pitiful

[@luanshala1433]

Old box was nice but the bigger ones were sh*t. bullsh*t terrain(how tf does an steel pipe give cover? dafuq do I need rubble and stuff for if I can do it myself with Milliput and Modelclay?) the new bigger box actually looks like fun to play with and fits into 40k more. I'm not gonna buy it, because I know that GW will release said new terrain separately 2/3 months later. plus they already have terrain in store which fits perfectly to the 'new' terrain if you paint it the same. (the units are awsome for people who missed leviathan, or just didn't need everything from it though!)

[@pontuspedersen385]

Man i just started with this hobby around a month ago, if I knew they would release 10th edition and new starter sets I would have waited instead of buying the old starter sets😭

[@timunderbakke8756]

There’s nothing wrong with the old starter sets. All the models are perfectly usable. Just download the free pdf indexes and you’re good to go.

[@461Dragonman]

As someone who dislikes Tyranids, the heavy plastic ratio of Tyranid to Space Marine completely turned me off of these boxes. It's so skewed it's not even remotely funny. Got no choice but to buy the new Terminators at full price, I guess.

[@youtmeme]

battletech!!!😊😜😜👍✌

[@Technologicalanimal-gr6ou]

The terrain is old crap that no one wanted! Very poor!

[@Khobai]

the new replacement sets are worse

[@weston5716]

Jay: “It’s fiiiine…” Narrator: “But it was not fine, and his disgust was evident.”

[@nobbymcnobs8721]

the starter coming with paints and tools now just makes it objectively better than having to pay like 100 euros just to see if you like painting minis

[@goggler2]

Yeah i think if you've never painted warhammer before its a good start.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

The problem is it's all horrifically overpriced tools, and they dropped plenty of stuff from the last box to include some basic supplies, that also limits what people want to try to paint

[@Cerderius]

As long as it ends up being cheaper than buying the Recruit Edition and Paints & Tools set. (About $105 CAD) otherwise the deal won't be as evident.

[@nobbymcnobs8721]

@@Cerderius yeah i feel like the intro set would be at least a good bit cheaper, would be ridiculous otherwise

[@sleeplessknight99]

For painting, you could've always just got either the assault intercessors and paint set or the Necrons and paint set.

[@distant1334]

wake up babe eons of battle uploaded

[@6Grey6malkin6]

It would be cool to try painting the boxart with just the paints included in the new starter set. See how achievable it actually is.

[@dukehollace40]

The warcry box looks to be reusing some underworlds teams.

[@gramitoncleric7]

I'm glad I'm not the only person that noticed.

[@dextersamson8286]

​@@gramitoncleric7Stevie Wonder noticed

[@JachymorDota]

I really wish GW would embrace cardboard terrain. It's light, functional and Takes up barely any space in your box. Of course, you can't demand horrible prices for big, L-shaped blocks of plastics then.

[@SpooKimi]

Tbh they could just print it on the box or on the inside, no extra costs as the box is already getting printed anyway ^^ Just cut it out and fold the terrain on the right lines to create the right shape :3

[@JachymorDota]

@@SpooKimi now that's a great idea. I remember cereal boxes sometimes having cutout masks and stuff, so shouldn't be that hard.

[@SpooKimi]

@@JachymorDota exactly ^^ And than they can also do a bit more Xenos vibe terrain like it's a lil sad that the terrain in the 40k box isn't jungle as the box has jungle vibes

[@JachymorDota]

@@SpooKimi What, don't you enjoy 120 flavours of Warhammer DIRT?

[@SpooKimi]

@@JachymorDota warhammer dirt is my fav, but this one is kinda missing the spice xD

[@newworldempire]

I bought the Recruit Set plus the Paint and Tools set to get into the hobby. I think bundling it together is a great idea. I kinda got Leviathan to get the two combat patrols so Ultimate Edition might have been a better choice for me, but it's nice to have the full rulebook and my kids are obsessed with the Dreadnought and Screamer Killer.

[@xaxscratchxax926]

I mean, the screamer killer has to be the coolest bug in the box amd the dreaddy has huge laser cannons and rockets. The kids were destined to love them.

[@thescousegeek]

I love this Warcry starter set, but I'm subscribed to the new Stormbringer magazine, and we just got the truth seekers a few issues ago :-( I'm only a few months into the hobby so don't really want to start duplicating models already 😅

[@bobrbw]

I would say can’t wait for the orks to get the limelight, but I GUESS some of the Eldar’s models are older than me so I GUESS that they should get it more

[@Deus888]

I think that GW make their 40k boards so dull so they don't take your attention from models when advertised. On the other hand the board for Warcry is very busy because there is only a handful of models

[@regorminiatures8059]

i always wonder why they do their mugs so dull with just a color name printed on them, maybe is so they dont distract you :D

[@Grrizz84]

At first glance I was meh on the small one but its actually a really good first box. The mid one is nice, just a solid collection of minis and at least the board is card and not paper. The big one... the terrain is a huge letdown... 2 combat patrols is nice but the old terrain was so much more interesting.

[@brianhall4182]

I honestly think the Recruit box is kind of a newbie trap. Sure, it's convenient to have "everything" you need in a single box but the value proposition is lower than 9th edition's Recruit set. You miss out on the two extra leaders and instead get paint, a brush, and nippers. For the paint it's much better to just buy the singles you want for your scheme. New players unknowingly get forced down the Ultramarines route and may come to regret painting them in those colors when they start to actually build out their army. GW brushes and tools are both exceedingly overpriced for what they are and can be easily purchased from anywhere else for cheaper. A pack of cheap brushes and nippers from Hobby Lobby is 10 bucks. I don't disagree that it's nicely convenient but I don't think that makes up for the loss in value. The Elite set is actually kind of insulting because they purposefully kept out the Librarian and Barbgaunts to prevent you from getting the two full combat patrols. They put them in the Command squad because of course they did. Bluh.

[@chadkittleson5447]

Blitzbowl does a good job of being a GW box that is self contained. Has the vacuum formed plastic insert, so we know they can do it.

[@DashOr]

I guess all the small box games do like Blitzbowl and Bladeborn f.e. I got Space Marine the boardgame, the new Underworlds Starter Set and the new combat patrol set on preorder and Im intrigued to see if they handle it the same way.

[@trollwholivesu7258]

What’s wrong with the terrain? I thought you liked square spaces

[@rabidwargamer68]

"Nobody cares what the plastic mat looks like" said after absolutely caring what the plastic mat looked like. 😜

[@timunderbakke8756]

Oh, I don’t like the paints and clippers mainly because it guarantees this will cost more than the box of gaunts. In 9th you could buy this box’s counterpart for basically the cost of the Necron warriors.

[@B1-997]

Rip cheap gaunts and rippers in future.

[@Starbladesarcane]

It would be great if they brought back the sigmarite mausoleum. That was a great set

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

It's also quite old, It was the Garden of Morr before. I should have picked one up.

[@GloriousGrunt]

They should really bring back all of the terrain classics, They have had some bangers that are super expensive on ebay now

[@Trout_master]

Hey, anybody wanna have a conversation in the comments if you do just comment on my comment I guess

[@chrisjulien7698]

Christ bless you, idk how I feel about the new 40k set but there is something to them ngl

[@erickavery1]

*shouts in soylent green "The seraphon are people!!"

[@maxspooky8991]

Jay you missed one small little reveal from the weekend

[@petermartin9224]

No comment from Jay on the return of the Epic scale with Legion Imperialis? I thought he'd comment on that 🤔

[@BlUsKrEEm]

Why dont starter sets ever include primer? As a new player I had no idea primer was a thing.

[@dextersamson8286]

Lmao

[@jwgolf5442]

The starter set is great value imo, just found it on amazon for AU$127 and I split it with a mate who wanted the Nids. so AU$63.50 for roughly $210 worth of Space Marines was good in my book.

[@DashOr]

I fell asleep to this video three times now. English is not my mother's tongue so I can perfectly relax heading about my beloved hobby. And now I'm watching it completely to actually get what this video is about.im so excited for the new warcry starter set. My jump from Bladeborn to Warcrcy. Eob is my favorite KZbin channel. #eobsleepclub

[@aroncheek5092]

Agreed , I don't play ATM but I do have a recruit edition, I still only have 4 units but don't plan to stop painting now I'm started again

[@picassawi5578]

That's not "old sigmarite mausoleum pieces".

[@intzbk1]

Hey Jay, rewatching because why not... :) Interesting fact, the Space Marine game available at Target for $40 actually has a 22"x30" double-sided real board in it instead of the paper ones included here. Weird isn't it? If they can afford to put that in a $40 game that includes 1 Lt. Titus, 20 'gants + 2 ripper swarms, why didn't they include board version in these? For the Warcry set, I have the models already but I wouldn't mind the terrain. Hopefully they'll list it separately in the future.

[@00die00991]

The Introductory Set with the paints and tools is okay but at £32 (via 3rd party stores) isnt the best deal. Sure the tools and paints are a good inclusion but at 15 models (5 Marines and 10 Nids) its still not worth it for incorrect paints and tools you can get cheap. The Starter set is actually a really good deal, its £65 on the GW site or £52 on discount sites. It has enough models to actually play a game of 40k and the models are a great value. The Terminators and Psychophage alone make up that price. Insanely good deal for a starter set and reminds me of the old start collecting sets (which were also a good deal) with some tools and a few paints you could get a reasonably good intro for £80 and actually play some games.

[@ryankyle2467]

Um, yeah……. When I first started I got the two bigger boxes of N VS SM on sale for pretty cheap. But unfortunately the store didn’t mark them that it was a sale. So I thought I could build 3 different armies! Lol yeah, I was dead wrong. So the new small box might be good for someone new to the whole hobby. But that’s about it. To me, the old boxes are way better. And depending on the prices I may get one of the smaller ones just to get a few extra guys I might need. But that terrain in the new big box is…….. Bad! I’ll just say bad!

[@TheUnshippedcorpse]

I actually just got a little over 2,000 points of space Marines for a little over 300 on eBay, 6 characters including Logan Grimnar and Bjorn the fell handed, 30 grey hunters for troops and a redempter dreadnought, some thunderwolf cavalry and a few other units all really nicely painted. I've had some space Marines sitting around on sprue for awhile and recently picked up a pair of drop pods so I can't wait for them to get here so I'm very happy with that deal and I can't wait for them to get here! But I was actually looking for nids and necrons when I found that one, didn't end up finding any deals for them, i was the only bidder on the space wolves which is probably the only reason I got such a good deal there honestly.

[@AshleyBlackwater]

Happy I managed to get one of the last in stock 9th edition battlefield expansion sets. Its a great kit, and actually kinda reasonably priced. New one is kinda dogshit, seams like GW is just trying to empty stocks of the 9th ed terrain kits that didn't sell very well...?