Ep 101 | Kendrick Lamar Drake Dangerous? | Detroit Don’t Love Eminem | Ladies In Rap Oversexualized?

[@allergic2bull88]

There was violence against Drake camp. People keep forgetting his body guard was shot a few days after the release of not like us. TDE put out a statement saying they do not condone violence and the shooting was not done on their behalf. So Kendrick team already showed their integrity. Drake could have done the same thing regarding the Rick Ross whooping he liked a post instead.

[@RLO26]

Yup drake has no integrity! He's gaslighting more violence

[@WebstarGaming]

29:52 that’s why I love mase and I just started watching he’s a drake fan that sees reality and can make light of it..”I still believe goddamn it” 😂😂

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

That's because Mase is an actual hip hop fan, who happens to be a Drake fan too. He's not just a Drake fan, who cares nothing about hip hop, which this beef showed a nice sized portion of Aubrey's fan base is. Mase is the rare OVHO with some perspective lol.

[@user-fancee1030]

Im a subscriber, i enjoy all y’all shows, i really like the come back of the in person, this was a funny one and vibe was on point like always but this in person hit different! Keep it up, much success

[@StarksTheKing]

yo, y'all smoked this episode. Major Props to y'all!

[@bilalmotley1999]

Loving the in-person version of the podcast. Keep it going fellas

[@TheWretchedMammoth]

Dre never left Eminem. MMLP2, Kamikaze and Music to be Murder By not only slap but from a lyrical standpoint are superior to "peak" Em. Eminem's "people" are the WORLD. Sincerely, from a black man born and raised in the suburbs of Southern California.

[@Achwpo]

When deeni said "blame the ladies for this " bro Jar & Cin looked at each other like he bugging out lmao

[@Ian-ic8yf]

"You gotta collect the crew before the beef" I'm dead 🤣

[@dougiedoug8994]

Eminem's legacy is greater than simply being the best rapper from Detroit because, ultimately, most of Detroit's rappers played in the hoods will not be remembered outside of Detroit's hoods. Eminem is already a legend that will be remembered forever even after he is gone from this earth. How many Detroit rappers can say that? Not many 🤷🏿‍♂

[@jamaaldavis7907]

Elzi better

[@dougiedoug8994]

@@jamaaldavis7907 That is your opinion, I respect it, but how many people outside of the D have Elzhi in their top 5 at the end of the day?

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@dougiedoug8994 eminem not close to no top 5 all time ..let's stop this mess

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@dougiedoug8994 em music not even hip hop...he's a pop acts thst knows how c to rap..n hasn't drop a quality album in in ova 20 yrs....plus.....

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@dougiedoug8994 most overrated emcee eva wit trash music....top 5....em in the top 35 on all time of top 50 emcees all time bout it

[@WebstarGaming]

30:33 I gotta side with mase on this one lol I do think if this happened to drake we would of reacted to it differently.but cin made a great point about the moral compass so it probably wouldn’t happen in reverse.sorry for spamming the comment section 😂😂 this a good episode

[@WebstarGaming]

7:07 drake fans feel the way most people feel about sport teams idk if it’s weird or not haven’t decided for myself yet lol

[@WebstarGaming]

47:21 I didn’t know mase was gonna say this but exactly.Eminem in anime terms is like dbz or Naruto it’s your first favorite and it’s amazing and I’ll never take away someone saying that’s still their favorite but as you grow and learn in the space you find deeper levels from that form of entertainment

[@Nu.WAV.]

Yo Cinsere this beat is smooth af fam 🔥

[@cinsere9806]

Appreciate it bro 🫡

[@karabomotsele1703]

Salute. Y'all are a good alternative to that other battle rapper guy.

[@cg120bst]

Wow mase actually knows doughboyz cashout i didnt think anyone would bring them up in this podcast ever. They were the ones that started the whole detroit wave the one that we know today

[@humblebragger500]

Didnt one of them niggaz get parked on camera??

[@TheBiggestHater614]

I do love what y’all have going on though, just thought that needed to be expressed as well.

[@heywetsi4209]

Have you heard megan thee stallion new album? She also sold 64K and some of her tour dates have been cancelled. Spotify also removed 30 million streams from her album. Alot of people are wondering what's going on.

[@Fr33Kingdom]

Bless the table good discussion 🙏 👏

[@chrisdskus10]

Y’all forgetting CMW duck sick and death wish, both dj quik disses!

[@monkeyking371]

Did you guys hear about the voicemail the Hell's Angels left Drake the other day about not to bring them up anymore? It was on the We Love Hip Hop Network episode they put out yesterday episode486 . They are from Toronto . They are biased a bit towards Drake but they also say why Drake could not do a video in the Toronto Hood's like Kendrick did because he did not grow up around there. You should check it out, I would love to hear your opinion about how they feel about Drake and the ha voicemail they play warning Drake. Great discussion you guys had as always.

[@TheRapRoundtable]

Drop the link if you have it

[@monkeyking371]

@@TheRapRoundtable kzbin.info/www/bejne/m324eKaAi96Zm9Usi=iSPnaMV_5jqHlDDG

[@aeonsage]

Instigator! Qanon trying to push its agenda!

[@WebstarGaming]

Ohhh okay I didn’t know cin made beats this shit smooth and y’all don’t ever have to worry bout copyrights and other bs

[@funkyfreshkid08]

That summer of 03 was Diplomatic Immunity HEAVY! I was 13 back then but Trap or Die had summer 03 on LOCK!! Every car, every teen club, every party i went to. Dear lord. Lol

[@humblebragger500]

Thug motivation was 2005

[@funkyfreshkid08]

@@humblebragger500 thank you I meant trap or die

[@dublebarrel263]

Dope ep

[@stephenbradwell9570]

That underlying track tho🔥…fab kiss conway rozay would slide!

[@WebstarGaming]

Shouts out from the nassau it’s getting hot in the city rn we need a banger for outside lol

[@DeeMccollough-e7f]

“Hey it’s me, 2Pac.” 🤣🤣🤣

[@roysotelo2210]

Eminem never got played in my hood.. FACTS great lyricist though, just was never our vibe

[@adriansuarez8245]

One of these days you guys have to do an episode talking about if no way out is a classic or not because I personally do there’s nothing but classic tracks for days

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Agreed. I don't understand people who say No Way Out is not a classic. In hindsight, I know there's backlash against the "shiny suit era," which No Way Out helped usher in. However, if we reexamine it, strictly from a music standpoint, the shiny suit era actually wasn't that bad. No Way Out, Harlem World and Life After Death are the holy trinity of the shiny suit era. All 3 are classics imo.

[@doronpearson5363]

50% of the RRT are OVO supporters. It's hard to feel the sincere concern about the state of hip hop. Drake is the epicenter of the fluff in the game.💯

[@TheRapRoundtable]

And you being judgmental about what music ppl like does what for the culture? Kinda tired of you ppl like you who can point fingers and judge but clearly aren’t willing build with the ppl you judge. You add nothing substantial to the bigger picture.

[@doronpearson5363]

@@TheRapRoundtable Right on que..... With the emotional response, instead of accepting that the statement is accurate you once again take shots from an assumed space of correctness. If it is an opinion that you feel isn't being respected, then why not respect mine?🤦🏿‍♂️ This has "Jarv" written all over it😂🤣

[@doronpearson5363]

@@TheRapRoundtable The ENTIRE PREMISE IF THE POD IS OPINIONS 🤦🏿‍♂️ Give me a break bro, let's have productive interactions with the listener and stop hollering " We are the # 1 " all the time

[@mictrap1383]

Yo man yall real ones

[@Freshpay]

Deenie back with the OVHOE riding… he been balance like a teeter totter

[@RebelWithoutABoss]

People really refuse to accept the truth about Em. The few Black people that listened to aEm during SSLP got clowned. He gained a little respect for Stan, but black people didn't really start bumping him until 8 Mole and he apologized to his mother with Cleaning Out My Closet. Then his music went downhill and black folk stopped listening to him again. You can find battle rap fans and some rappers who listen to him for technical skill, but even they don't really bump his music. There's a reason J Cole basically said Em was his favorite rapper, but he outgrew him. We don't vibe with his lyrics and production usually.

[@soundswithsincere2160]

Eminem got places like Montana, Iowa, Vermont, West Virginia, Rhode Island, Maine, South & North Dakota , Utah, New Mexico, Oregon, Nebraska and Minnesota . That’s what keeps him, Black cities in Michigan even outside of the Detroit don’t fuck with his music. And I’m from Michigan

[@yamanz00]

Facts. Being from Detroit, I co-sign this👆🏾

[@Ironman79]

Love the podcast but y’all living in the past when it comes to the New York bias talk. Don’t talk down on the south. Just tell NYC to sound like NYC again. People like y’all are the reason Pimp C said these ain’t hip hop records. These country rap tunes. Why y’all gotta be so divisive? Even within y’all city you got niggas arguing about who created hip hop. Peace sometimes. Don’t always gotta be war. Salute!

[@TheRapRoundtable]

Definitely confused here…uhhhh we spoke about Drake & Kendrick keeping it rap, we spoke about Eminem not getting love in Detroit, we spoke about Lil Mama calling the ladies prostitutes, Sexxy Red’s tour struggling, debated if Diplomatic Immunity is a classic, so what bias are you speaking about? And even further, HOW are we being divisive? Like do you know what divisive means? Have you even been following this pod and don’t lie either.

[@donknock-offs]

DI is a CLASSIC end of conversation

[@zwelisibiya2248]

Someone shot at Drake house and no made fun of that or liked post about the guy who got shot. Drake is a weirdo for liking that post

[@Dukesports6881]

Big Sean didn’t just get the em feature though. Detroit vs everybody came out like 10 years ago.

[@WebstarGaming]

Eminem was my favorite rapper growing up and I still love him I think we all do but he hasn’t aged well which is fine and I also think his music sonically isn’t in a time to really shine.even tho this new album feels like he might evolve and adapt

[@willt8848]

Diplomatic Immunity is not a classic. It's every bit the 3.5 mics the Source gave it. There's a cool 7-8 skips on that joint.

[@doronpearson5363]

Trap Muzik, Urban Legend, and Stankonia also came out in that era..... 2/3 are CLASSICS!!!! ARGUE WIT YO MAMA

[@Mic-100]

Not true. Classics spawn themes that last forever. 24 cars and clothes doesn't move the needle in hip hop, sir.

[@SoundMind.]

What you mean move the needle forward? Trap Muzik literally pioneered a whole sub-genre

[@doronpearson5363]

@@Mic-100 clearly you didn't hear the album and that's cool. I encourage you to give it a listen.... It's a CLASSIC I promise. Way more Bars than you think, way better beats than you thought and was the soundtrack to a period of hip hop TRUST ME

[@omarfoster3154]

It’s all jokes, so when Ross’s People do the get back, I hope y’all keep the same jokes. Love y’all though man

[@humblebragger500]

That tobey joint fire

[@TheBiggestHater614]

I don’t know what and who y'all referring to when y’all said Kendrick fans are from the cloth lol. The same is true of his fan base, just because they’re a Kendrick fan doesn’t mean they’re fan of hip hop. Homie said it himself, this was a battle of two stan bases. Yes, hip hop fans are on both sides, but with these two individuals you are dealing with people who are fans of them and not just hip hop.

[@jaasadlewis4827]

I be a fan of both but when talking specifically jo a drake fan they make me seem like i only like Kendrick when really i just be being real.

[@ITSCANNONS]

Who cares about em being played in a club or “in the hood”…. The em hate remind me of the nas hate back in the day. They hated nas when nas was just him as an artist. It’s called fan base.

[@anonymouspreme3425]

Nas was played in the hood....illmatic was the most bootlegged album ever at the time.🎉

[@ITSCANNONS]

@@anonymouspreme3425 you’re talking about the early 90s I’m talking about the stillmatic godson era when I was actually there to see it in real time. “Nas ain’t real! Nas not no real street dude, he fake, he not built like that, what bangers? Ochie wally,hate me now? Don’t get me started how I had to argue how dope “I can” was… I was told is corny and no street niggas playing nas… we playing jezzy and hov etc. I was def caping for nas back then.

[@757CitiesReppa]

@@ITSCANNONS that has to be a wannabe hustler Jeezy/Jay Z fans take. Nas was already solidified.

[@757CitiesReppa]

And Eminem reminds me NOTHIN of Nas’s situation…Nas was “the golden child”…Eminem was clear “great white hype/hope” once they saw Hip Hop was officially taking over even MTVs viewership

[@ITSCANNONS]

@@757CitiesReppa you comparing their 1st impression vs what it really was. Both things can be true what they were and what they became. At the end of the day nobody is playing mos def or talib at their highest level in any club or hood unless you was a head and that’s few and far in between. YET who cares about the hot takes of where they’re played if they are dope artist. How many good white artist came after em? (Arguably of course) but what sets them all apart… em is actually a better mc. Mac was really dope but he wasn’t no Eminem. Yelawolf wore a confederate flag and was Taylor made for the “white hope” and nothing stuck for him.

[@catherineherman7574]

Has Drake not performed Back to back in the US?

[@Wesco9999]

Your opinion. Novelliss, Royce Da 5’9 Iiljade etc…real lyricists from the D. Actual D. I like EM. But no. I’m from Muskegon, Mi. and later coached in Birmingham, Mi. The kids in the burbs didn’t even play Em…played Dilla, Awesome Dre, Esham, even flint artists MC Breed and even Dayton Family…not once have I heard EM being played even during football pregame warmups. Facts.

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

The Dayton Family is way too underrated. Rest in peace to MC Breed. Had his debut on cassette as a youngster. Played it for 5-6 months straight.

[@Fr33Kingdom]

Diplomatic immunity is a classic. Mase is right, nine times out of ten, a 2000s classic is not gonna be classic in the way a 90s album is, same for the 2010s.

[@omegabreed7822]

I think "Diplomatic Immunity 1" maybe a regional classic for NY.....just like "400 Degrees" and "Thug Motivation 101" are classics down here in the South

[@flyshitonly24]

@@omegabreed7822400 degrees did 4 million. That shit is a national classic. We love 400 degrees here in Cali. Especially Watts

[@DeeRickJames201]

​@@omegabreed7822 Nah...Jeezy was getting heavy play in the tri state area back then...If it's good music then it gets played up here..If you only stayed in just one part of the country, how do you know what's regional?..The South doesn't play North music but WE played all good music..West coast included

[@jamaaldavis7907]

Not no all time classic ..man stop....

[@DeeRickJames201]

@@jamaaldavis7907 You wasn't there

[@willt8848]

I've had people from Philly back in the day say they didn't fuck with The Roots. How many people are blasting Thought in the club and whips? Here's the thing, Em's best album he and the Bass Brothers did most of the production. Dre did all those goofy singles, produced most of Encore, most of Relapse and a good portion of Music 2 Be Murdered By 1 and 2. Dre isn't the answer for Em. He's probably failed him to some degree.

[@patrickwarren221]

Let's not forget that m does have a racist record out there that leaks when he first came out

[@kingloco541]

Hit the like ...its free

[@JGreen-tz6km]

I don’t see Cench riding out for drizzy. His manager and him got a pattern and Drakes just a bonus. The UK ain’t feeling him same way , he rode the wave and ain’t been back in like 5,6 yrs

[@757CitiesReppa]

Detroit is 77% Black, MOTOWN😂😂of course they not really interested in dude.

[@robertarmstrong9182]

So Ross wouldnt hav talked sh!t had that incident not happened? He most likely would hav made a vid or 2 brag'n how nothin happened & he "runs" Canada. Keep the same energy for Ross too.

[@philanimbeko1930]

You dont hear Eminem in the club, cause Eminem does not make music for the club....

[@mictrap1383]

Why we protecting Rick Fruad anyways 😂 he shouldn't get any air time rip I'll celebrate his funeral!

[@RLO26]

This insane levels of dick eating sheesh it ain't that serious tf wrong with yall

[@liamstaffordd]

this is so funny to me because they literally just sound so jealous that em is from detroit and he is the most successful rapper ever meanwhile they have made NO success in rap also all i hear is "em dont get played in the club, em don't get played in the hood or em don't get played in cars" so? he is STILL lyrically the best rapper ever. just because you don't get played in clubs, hoods or car it does NOT determine whether you're a good rapper or not, people just use this excuse to discredit em 😂 black people will do/say anything to discredit em because they cannot stand a white rapper being in the goat conversation or they're jealous of his success...

[@Kickinthescience]

Eminem is a legend but was never a better lyricist than Black Thought

[@i_am_gohan9232]

The music distracts me from the gush talking, I don’t think it’s needed, other than that, I like y’all’s podcast.

[@TheRapRoundtable]

Gush talking? What’s that?

[@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842]

0:00 Eminem worldwide he’s loves and does numbers in Europe Africa and Asia and South America..it’s be nice If Detroit showed him love but is what it is

[@jamaaldavis7907]

Overrated em😂😂

[@defoxenterprise]

Detroit VS. Everbody (but The Goat Nas 👑

[@melaninmann8065]

Black people don’t play Em in the burbs either 🤷🏿‍♂️😂

[@michaeljones3050]

Mase I have been saying this for the last three months that when it comes to the west coast no other region in the world 🌎 is f**king with the west when it comes to diss records in history‼️‼️‼️

[@757CitiesReppa]

Nonsense

[@michaeljones3050]

I am an east coast native and I am just giving props to facts!!

[@757CitiesReppa]

@@michaeljones3050 what the hell is an “East Coast native?” …and the only “fact” is that that is your opinion.

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

True. One day, on this show, we actually need to lay all the diss records out side by side from the west and the east. I'm confident the west will come out on top.

[@michaeljones3050]

@@MichaelBrown-ti1un exactly! I am east coast dude all day but the west coast diss records go harder pause‼️

[@mrworkowt5419]

Em can still out rap 90% of these rappers right now stop it

[@Mic-100]

Do you like his actual songs is the question?

[@dougiedoug8994]

@@Mic-100 I like his music and I listen to him more than everybody from the D to be honest.

[@Mic-100]

@dougiedoug8994 u gave a response but didn't answer the question, sir

[@dougiedoug8994]

@@Mic-100 Actually I did when I clearly said I like his music.

[@cg120bst]

😂😂​@@dougiedoug8994

[@kingloco541]

Facts

[@gmelltalk4979]

Why must drake do this and that when ross went there being a clown

[@gmelltalk4979]

What if k dot lost you think it would be all peace and love

[@BTGFORPRESIDENTPODCAST]

Hello out there in TV land.

[@optimisticjames9664]

Madonna made a girl Nikki made 🟣

[@ITSCANNONS]

Welp someone listening to him hahah

[@christhebonnetmann6]

White folks

[@ITSCANNONS]

@@christhebonnetmann6 who you see at all rap concerts…..white folks lol

[@omegabreed7822]

So yall claim that all yall want is for the South to be a more lyrical......yet the ones that are lyrical like a Lil Wayne, J. Cole or Pusha, yall claim are tryin to be like NY. So which do yall want? For us to be more lyrical in order to create a better listening experience for yall? Or for us to be more lyrical so yall can lay claim that we're tryin to be like yall?

[@TheRapRoundtable]

Omega, no. We did NOT claim they’re trying to be like New York. Please don’t misquote the pod. Also, we’ve had ppl from the south TELL US that Pusha and Cole aren’t considered southern rappers. Not tryna argue either, just making it clear.

[@omegabreed7822]

​@@TheRapRoundtable Deni said and I quote, "All the nicest Southern niggas sound like NY niggas". So who's misquoting who?

[@DisclosureTV1]

Those others but the PUSHA T out of there!

[@TheRapRoundtable]

“Sounds like” and “trying to be like” are 2 totally different connotations. Saying someone is “trying to be like” is disrespectful. Whereas Deeni said sounds like and was referring to the barred up niggas we usually talk about(Pusha and Cole are the main examples) who have an east coast leaning sound. And there are a few others on the underground scene as well. You shouldn’t be so quick assume disrespect, especially when the context of the discussion in no way should’ve made jump to that conclusion.

[@omegabreed7822]

@TheRapRoundtable So what does "Sounding like a NY nigga" supposed to entail? You're basically sayin that because a rapper is lyrical, that they sound like NY. Why can't they just be lyrical niggas from the South? Don't know why you're playing semantics. Like I've said before, I rock with the pod.....but as a Southern nigga I gotta reply when yall send shots at us.......call it "Southern Bias" 😆

[@kingloco541]

Yes

[@alassiter643]

DJ Muggs

[@kingloco541]

No balance

[@robertarmstrong9182]

Pop Smoke was trash!

[@realilly1]

Yo

[@dzine4042]

Rap 101

[@TheRapRoundtable]

It’s almost like you were in the studio with us lol

[@andisa9599]

Eminem is one of the biggest American rappers in Africa. He’s bigger than jay z, Nas etc

[@roysotelo2210]

Eminem never got played in my hood.. FACTS great lyricist though, just was never our vibe