EP-14 | The uncensored truth about Pakistan with Author Tilak Devasher and Major Gaurav Arya

The recent happenings in Pakistan have taken a new turn after the assassination attempt on former Prime Minister Imran Khan. For the first time in history, people are openly protesting against the Pakistan Army and anti-American sentiments are at an all-time high. What do these developments mean for India and how does it impact geopolitics on the global stage to discuss more on it Smita Prakash spoke with Tilak Devasher who is the author of three widely acclaimed books on Pakistan and retired as Special Secretary, Cabinet Secretariat Government of India. He is currently a member of the National Security Advisory Board. Major Gaurav Arya is an Indian Army veteran and founder of the Chanakya Forum. He is a public speaker who is seen on television debates and is popular on social media in India and Pakistan.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
03:00 - Political protests in Pakistan and its significance
16:41 - Rise of Imran Khan the politician & Role of Pashtuns in Pakistani society
36:26 - The Baloch nationalist movement & Pashtun
48:00 - Pakistan’s perennial hate for India
57:00 - Information warfare & Workings of the ISPR
1:12:00 - Polarisation in Pakistan & Nuclear blackmail by Pakistan
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[@ANINewsIndia]

Watch our previous episodes here: kzbin.info/aero/PLgeZhmWMhjb8QBgxuuuyNylZfc5zLTbKa

[@yogeshraj9792]

There is channel in pakistan show khabardar ...host aftab iqbal ...he allwys hated speech against india in his show .....just talk about him sir

[@AmitJha-ow2sr]

@@yogeshraj9792 that Aftab Iqbal is a moron and lives in La La lAnd Yet our Punjabi actors like Amy virk take comedians of that show in their movies

[@yogeshraj9792]

@@AmitJha-ow2sr yeah bro...i m also from punjab..our punjabi industry also aa moro n nd they use them a to create disturbance in punjab

[@PiadasEyer]

THIS IDETVOFF A CHANEL ALSO PUTS ARYAS FUNDING STORY.. WHATANASS..

[@vijaybhatt6774]

@@yogeshraj9792 । । No

[@nkishoreg3590]

Tilak Diveshar was a former special secretary at R&AW. Very few intelligence officers ever come to a public forum.

[@rakeshramachandra2654]

is it..

[@airyanemvaejah3221]

He is a Islamist Pathan apologist and has zero knowledge of Islam

[@I...2728]

Exactly.. @nkishore g People likr Tilak sir are genuine Pak. experts unlike Major Gaurav Arya who is basically a troll who loves to tease&pull Pakistani people's leg by being hyper. He is absolutely mediocre and pathetic analyst. Respect to his service and time to the Nation but he has simply become famous thanks to his Hawkins BS crap on Republic TV!

[@untitled6391]

@@I...2728 so? Everyone has their place. What's wrong with Gaurav?

[@withmeroundtheglobe4589]

Indira Gandhi ke baad raw barbad ho gaya hai, ekdam bekar ho gaya hai.ise dismantle kar dena chaiye. New organization khara karna chiye with young people.

[@PROTECTHINDUS]

I urge ALL Hindus . Please do not run only after MBA, IT jobs in and outside India. We desperately need people like Major Arya.

[@musicisworld]

True

[@nikhilkulkarni3327]

First urge all Bengalis to become slightly more Hindu atleast

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

In return India gives us nothing. It's better to run away from India and settle in Anglo Saxon nations

[@santptube]

He is nut case. Just gasbag and blabbers.

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

@@a.d.7888 go ahead. Generate wealth and make ur family in India rich .... As long as u love Indic civilization and it's ideals it's ok

[@gauravverma9398]

Nobody roast Pakistan the way Gaurav Sir do..

[@thearindambiswas]

The best in this series. Major Gaurav Arya is the reason why I got on Social Media and he continues to enlighten many of us here and elsewhere.

[@what6336]

1200 years of enlightenment

[@Anonymous-wp7ly]

You are successfully brainwashed

[@omshankarsharma5001]

People don't like TV debates. Speakers are disturbed every second . These Pod Casts will certainly be preferred by viewers.

[@vickyvicky2734]

On tv channel there is live BOMBING on each-other with MOUTH...

[@rakadus]

Absolutely.👏🙋

[@cristianosthigh]

Tilak Devasher should have got a separate 2 hour episode. The man was at R&AW with focus on Pakistan.

[@rakadus]

+1 Get both the speakers back separately.

[@SodiumSyndicate]

Tilak is clueless about sufism and its violent history and present.

[@akhandbharat1593]

He's doing Al taqqiya

[@surindersarna9255]

Very reasoned and balanced dialogue. Confusion regarding heritage and identity is a very important factor in understanding people’s behaviour!!

[@jugnoo84]

The knowledge, information and intelligence Mr.Tilak Devasher and Maj Gourav Arya is top notch 👌🏽

[@trilokyamohanchakra6351]

Imagine Tilak sir in field, they'll prob make him a halvai in lahore

[@ahhaz8324]

As an Afghan Pakhtun I enjoyed ur prog. or show. Pak established by d. British conspiracy against India & Afg.

[@servantofallah9425]

Very nice, mor kuseh da observation da ta waal. Lar sha hindu sara keena dausa

[@muslim_first]

Afghanistan was the last thing in the mind of the British in 1947.

[@Aashu299]

True

[@idzkk]

@@muslim_firstthe buffer state between ussr and British india. So not last thing I guess

[@muslim_first]

@@idzkk In 1947 Partition Plan of India, Afghanistan was the last thing on the minds of the British. The British wanted out as fast as they can because of its crumbling economy after world war two.

[@nagendramishra8947]

Major gaurav Arya is the most logical person When it comes to discussion He doesn't live in reality of "If" and "but"

[@hussy1312]

clearly very logical . 52:00 he is talking about genociding the whole country of pakistan. after hitlers germany india is the country where someone can say such a thing on tv and people like you congratulate him

[@sachin265]

@51:15, Major Gaurav Arya "So many of my friends, their names are in the National War Memorial" - this has to hit home for all Indian patriots!

[@RiseUp_Again]

Two Gems of India

[@Nadd108]

The way Major Saab troll's bhikharistaan with facts & humor makes me laugh so much 😂😂. Hats off to you sir.

[@s..2062]

Yes..bro..same to me also🤗🤗

[@scubayogi4091]

Self Styled Major

[@tylerb8032]

I am his fan but I just know . . . The only country they can compare India is Naapakistan . . . . It wud be amazing if one day major Saab is able to compare our great nation with powers like China , U.S n other Big boys !!

[@SandeepSingh-cb6lf]

Hats off..for..major Saab..Hats off for u..Naseem Ahmad bhai..

[@lesmonkmorison2828]

@@scubayogi4091 self styled ka meaning pata hai gadhe?? He was a commissioned officer in Indian Army...

[@v4run9412]

Noooooooooo!!!! Major Gaurav Arya sir deserves a full episode of his own!!!!!!!!!!

[@SP-pg5ew]

YES PLEASE!

[@Sona-jv7bc]

Exactly

[@denk3236]

Cope

[@ausitsharma6207]

@@SP-pg5ew b'b y h h ভ

[@ausitsharma6207]

@@SP-pg5ew b'b y h h b h

[@usmanaziz6874]

I have watched the initial 10 minutes and as a Pakistani I am amazed to see so authentic and truthful analysis by Tilak Devasher.

[@v4run9412]

Tilak's sir knowledge is on another level. He needs to come on KZbin more often.

[@KSHATREEYA]

isko sufi islam aur islam ka to frk pta nhi.. jb aise thinkers ko hi problem ki jdh pta nhi to ghnta logo ko kya btayega ye.. is mamle m major clear h..

[@Barwal7]

R&AW.

[@TheRAM.i]

The chankaya dialogue is his official you tube channel

[@nicolasflamel3489]

The lack of shatrubodh and the political correctness in the room is palpable, of course, major Arya is laconic and polite due to his manners. Mr Tilak Devasher seems to have as good an understanding of Sufism as a common Pakistani has about Advaita Vedanta. If this is how informed a former high-ranking officer of R&AW is, we perhaps are dealing with a R&AW that lacks shatrubodh & swayambodh and is not aware about it. I hope this current establishment gives objective, fact-based mandatory training about the peace & peacefuls to at least institutions like NIA, R&AW, IB, high ranking officials of the Military. Bureaucracy, Legislature and Judiciary are a long shot.

[@SodiumSyndicate]

Tilak Ji is clueless, Sufism is 100% GENOCIDAL towards non-believers. Tilak Ji has ZERO idea about what Sufism is or its brutal history in India is. No sect has been more genocidal in India during Mughal invasion (not rule) than Sufism.

[@user-it9kp3hn8c]

It is 100% true what gaurav sir has said that existence of pakistan is detrimental to india's national security.... and this should be a normalized topic of discussion without any apologetic feeling.

[@numanunees2597]

That is just a very stupid discourse, what is India going to do about it? wipe it off the map, even if you could invade and you never be able occupy pashtuns or punjabi and destroy the Indian economy at the same time. You can't change your family or neighbours, you have to live with them ideally in peace, concentrate on your own people.

[@santptube]

@@numanunees2597 break into manageable parts

[@Rijulification]

​@@numanunees2597 real life aise kaam ni krti bhai 😂.

[@numanunees2597]

@@santptube manageable parts by who; India, you will destroy India trying, just concentrate on yourselves, enough problems to deal with. India because of it size will break before pak ever does, north vs south as the south gets more rich & pays for U.P & Bihar, bengali & N.E very different than gujrat ect.

[@Akshay-ru1ln]

@@numanunees2597 what a joke

[@SunnySharma05]

As a student of Geopolitical I must say our country needs a Ispr type organization who can control, counter and spread propoganda. GOI should indirectly support them and their work should be classified.

[@inmyown407]

Brilliant idea

[@RojaJaneman]

DUH!! 🙄 😒 People have been screaming that for years. But desi people r truly ignorant and gawar in geopolitics, so it’s easy for leaders to fool them. They have zero idea where they r and where they need to go. Theyre sleeping on a battlefield and then they’re surprised when they lose things/people.

[@dineshsharma6125]

yupp

[@lakshay4201]

Good idea.

[@debamalyadey9965]

Their exsistance should be classified....

[@abbasraza8958]

Salam from Pakistan 🇵🇰 Really impressed to hear such an insightful information on Pakistani politics by mr Davesher and Gaurav. ANI is such an academic forum with top notch Indian intellectuals emanating knowledge and information …. 👏👏👏

[@affaqmalik5876]

Yeh gobar Arya tou hai hi Pakistan ky khilaf tuje Bada Pasand hai

[@ASDF20994]

@abbasraza8658 Sure you are more HATER of PK than Major Arya, Devesush and SMITA Prakash, very happy to see all the predictions analysis these three to gather have done before one year has PROVEN WRONG, sad for them and people like you who pump their likeness and support for these enemies HATERS of PK and people of PK I’m a Sindhi with many Baluch relatives can assure all the Haters of PK we Sindhi and Baluch people HATE Imran Khsn to the CORE and so does many in Punjab and KPK, the gang of thugs supporting Imran Khan their END is near, almost there

[@elizabeththakur242]

Im American 🇺🇸 but I love ❣️ indian 🇮🇳 culture jai shri Ram 🕉 🚩🚩

[@YG-ib1ho]

🙏

[@angeldust4224]

🥰

[@shantoshanto9550]

🖕🖕🖕ram 😀

[@unknown1o23]

@@shantoshanto9550 nabi ki ☪️hu🖕

[@gargidev9125]

Troll account 😂

[@subramaiansundaram3020]

Amazing conversation madam. Sitting in Tamil Nadu, not knowing many things happening around, this kind of discussion open up our mind to a larger perspective. And yes, searching in YT for past discussions if any. Thank you so much.🙏

[@roman5782]

Watch PGurus, Vaad and the Jaipur dialogues, sir! PGurus makes a lot of TN centric content.

[@YTworld-69]

You guys say wierd stuff about North but yourself have no idea how it's up here.

[@roman5782]

@@YTworld-69 Don't bring regional divide here. He has a valid point. All the TN media is controlled by the DMK, so they don't get the real picture of what's happening across the country. Regional chauvinism is present in every state, more prominent in TN though

[@YTworld-69]

@@roman5782 nah, but those in south have a very Marxist and non chalant attitude towards issues of north.

[@rohitsawant5805]

@@roman5782 Yes, bro I too have noticed local news dont cover all those issues so non hindi audience is largely unaware.

[@raghunandan9290]

Intent and Capability. 🔖When we have Capability, intent can change overnight. Wow . U Opened our eyes .. Arya ji . ... When Pak has Capability, it won't wait

[@thaker9339]

Yes yes. The current cease fire so called agreement is an example. It has remained calm for one year Bc they don’t have capability and ammunition. So Bajwa promptly declares cease fire and byde time. India happily thinks all is goody goody and the forces can relax and do bhangda peacefully. Intent remains but capability is lacking fir the time being. Once the latter changes, 💥 boom. Then we will wail and sob and complain, go to funerals and Modi Sarkar will give compensation to families. That’s what we do, instead of telling Bajwa not interested. Yehi to hota raha hai abtak

[@rajum9751]

Thank you Smita for bringing Tilak and Gaurav together in your Pod cast I am Dr Rajeev Malaviya 79 yrs old an absolute direct DECENT of MAHAMANA Pandit Madan Mohan MALAVIYA Gaurav is very good at Pakistan Affairs Best wishes

[@silentlatif]

SMITA, You are doing this show in the best possible ways. I think this is one of your best shows! Kudos!!!

[@raam726]

Not really. She needs to stop interrupting and let the experts speak. As guests, They are here to speak and as the host, she's here to let them speak. When she interrupts, the line of conversation disappears. She should do better.

[@Sake729]

@@raam726 I agree with you completely! She has to stop interrupting these people. They were called for a reason and they’re called experts for a reason. If you want to know their views and response to a certain question, please let them complete. There’s something very disrespectful about the way she interrupts with a smirk on her face like she knows everything or in some cases, more than the guests. It’s a major put off to a viewer who is eagerly waiting for the guest’s expert response.

[@c.s.rangaraj298]

@@raam726 m

[@inshort5341]

She shud stop cutting off the conversation/response

[@nagrotte]

@@raam726 exactly. She has this bad habit of interrupting. May be she wants to show-off her rapport with the guest or obsessed by “know-all” syndrome. When guests are particularly soft spoken people, she rides all over them.

[@brahmgaur7340]

Forget Pakistan guys, concentrate on Indian Madrasas, they are teaching the same. Write a book on Indian Madrasas and their teachings.

[@destiny4936]

Please bring diplomat parthasarathi to the show to get excellent insights on Pakistani affairs. I am a big fan of major Gaurav Arya as well.

[@akhtarreyaz376]

You people have nailed it every INdians should watch it you people have really add up to my knowledge and nationalism🇮🇳!!

[@cholepuri]

@ब्राह्मण_जी_vlogs just coz he has a Muslim name doesn't mean he is Pakistani

[@KamalSharma-bw8nh]

@@cholepuri From what date muslims have love for India??

[@vanssingh4352]

@@KamalSharma-bw8nh out of stadium shot brother😂

[@akhandbharat1593]

@@cholepuri it was Indian muslims who created paxtan. Read 'Pakistan and partition of India' book

[@shivam208]

​@@akhandbharat1593bhai aap muslim hokar muslim country ko support kyu nahi krte Pakistan jihad hi to kar raha hai And jihad ko islam m sabse jyada prime diya gya hai

[@hptyagi6632]

Congratulations the entire team for such a wonderful discussion

[@kaushikthaker9666]

I believe major should get the funded for the project team to counter pak ispr

[@Charanms]

Each day when I am lacking energy or feeling lazy, rather than drinking coffee or tea it is better to watch Major Gaurav Arya say the words with conviction, "The existence of Pakistan is detrimental to the National Security of India". What a statement .

[@markusmath3421]

what a statement? 😂India has been saying that since 1947 why do you act like this is something new and profound?

[@relentlessfrags4914]

@@markusmath3421 because its new, before it was that we can get along with Pakistan. now we realise Pakistan needs to be broken

[@markusmath3421]

@@relentlessfrags4914 same thing. Anything that damages Pakistan is a win for India.

[@Charanms]

@@markusmath3421 Can you tell me who said this . Dont act like it is obvious from the very beginning.

[@sanjeevdeb2817]

Brilliant discussion... Absolutely spell binding revelation of the inner workings of the Baloch & Pashtun mind. I can't help but turn my nose up at the difference in quality of panel discussions between Indian & Pakistani media

[@vishalsingh-yj8bk]

This show with Smita Prakash has now become the best podcast in the non-left space. I sincerely hope this continues.

[@roman5782]

Try Vaad.

[@vishalsingh-yj8bk]

@@roman5782 arre pata hain bhai. But I like smita as a host better.

[@abhinavgupta8634]

@@vishalsingh-yj8bk yeah she's beautiful 🙂❤️

[@jarp5581]

beer biceps also good

[@Akash-tl6rm]

@@jarp5581 no he isn't. He just bring up some elementary not well researched questions or at times even conspiracy theories, black magic and crap like that.

[@AR-os2uw]

Loved every minute of it. Thanks for the efforts!!

[@vishwanathsalagame2324]

Hats off to all of you. Gaurav Arya quote : I am not being hateful, I am being truthful.

[@jayashreearun6324]

Absolutely respect the honesty of Major Gaurav Arya - Thank you for this fresh honesty

[@stefansyiemiong5881]

Maj Gaurav knows the Northeast because he had spent his formative years there . I can proudly say I studied in the same school , St Edmund’s school in Shillong , a decade before him but the ethos of that school has been unchanged to this day !

[@pankajnaik5218]

Such a honor and preliviage to have all 3 legends of india.wish to listen and learn more from these discussion🙏🙏🙏🦄

[@Nadd108]

Every Indian should watch this podcast especially the younger generation. As there have been a lot of lies been spread about Pakistan for yrs. "The existence of Pak is detrimental to India's/world's security". This message should seep into every Indian.

[@HariMahadevanKoovapady]

They should add vernacular subtitles and re-release it, in as many languages as possible.

[@fabjon6311]

I'm from Kerala & huge chunk of younger population here are mohobbat gang. Vast majority of them are aged mid 20s and under. Interesting thing is, you have a Muslim name, I'm a Christian. And the people (mohobbat gang) are Hindu's & Christians. Maybe Muslims don't speak like this public. One of my muslim friend said to me that there are crazy bastards in their area that supports Pakistan during a India Pak cricket match. Point is younger generation is a lost cause.

[@dhirendrarath8001]

@@fabjon6311 mostly they are muslims who have love for Pakistan some show and get punish some hide

[@fabjon6311]

@@dhirendrarath8001 you are right. But people often forget that there are Muslims in India that literally hate Pakistan. On top of that my point was specifically about Mohabbat Gang in my state, which comprises of Young people belong to Hindus & Christians communities. Most of them are woman too.

[@sajidkhan610]

Kuch b karo pir b ye log Teri lete rahenge aur tum bus sabit karte raho .. lage raho sharam tumhe ayegi nahi

[@sachikantamohanty463]

Very informativd well presented show👃👍

[@gauravchaturvedi1347]

Seriously thinking, Imran khan is actually a RAW Agent, when he became prime minister in year 2018, Indian political diaspora actually celebrated it, as it knew that "whan a clown moves to the palace, the government becomes a circus ". 😀😀😀😀

[@shairafzal9347]

A Pakistani tennis player who used to play in international matches and in doubles he had some Indian player as a partner , he was being interviewed on a Pakistani TV channel by a nice secular guy , he smilingly asked the gentleman how is your experience of having an Indian partner in the game expecting that he would say some good words about his partner and India but he was stunned by what the reply was ,, what can I do , unfortunately I couldn''t get some good Muslim or Pakistani as a partner,,

[@kamalkumaroberoi1801]

Interesting observation...

[@mayankindian3750]

Bhai inke Dimaag me yahi bhara hai

[@vikram_shahi]

That’s what they are taught

[@shidharbhagwat5866]

Mental sickness. Sadly they only show their true color of untrustworthyness

[@Madhav513]

In love with 72 hoors

[@GautamShah]

Hatred was not born out of the text books which became dominant perhaps after 1950s. Hatred has been even before 1947

[@pidchedrr1796]

Love listening to Smitha and Major!

[@yatharthupadhyay8544]

I came to this video because of major sahab❤ his analysis on Pakistan is so good.

[@nicolasflamel3489]

Smita ji, please invite J Sai Deepak to discuss his new book, India, Bharat and Pakistan. He has a huge fan following.

[@kasturim17]

Nicolas flamel???? Still alive sir? 😅

[@nicolasflamel3489]

@@kasturim17 Yeah, I still have the sorcerer stone with me.

[@adrianbelko7683]

@@nicolasflamel3489 didn't know you were Kashmiri

[@suchita52]

Communication has become such a striking force!! Gaurav Arya has spoken with such strong expressions it gives one goosebumps inciting one’s nationalist feelings!! It’s so true. Wars are now cyber wars!!

[@destiny4936]

Major Gaurav Arya is our indian pride. Whatever he says here, Pakistan go nuts and it will become viral.

[@156615]

one of the finest podcasts .... when REAL experts talk , there is CONTENT and value for the listeners.

[@atuldgujar]

Great Analysis!

[@rahulgandigudi]

Tilak sir is from the RAW makes a lot of sense and deep understanding of Pakistan. Gaurav as always rocks!

[@niharbraroo]

Salute to Major Arya. Loved it when he made the quote from the dark knight

[@NawazAhmed1]

I like ANI Podcasts. Smita ma'am conducts it in a very good way. Her knowledge is good, her research is good. Thank you ma'am.

[@renjanpai4256]

Yes , “unless we go to Rawalpindi and close the tap there we will not solve the Kashmir problem” major is spot on 🎉

[@surenkumarsharma2886]

Thank you for having such erudite people on your episodes . People get to learn more than what they explain , by knowing about the relevant books on such matters.

[@induchopra3014]

Pakistan is speedbreaker on indias road to progress. It will have to be winded up. US should realize this. China would not have been the monster it is if india was not divided. India cannot counter china because there is Pakistan. Without Pakistan, the equation changes. United India will be becon of democracy,human rights and full counter balance to China. Untie v Both our arms ,America. Then we will see China. Save asia

[@MrVinayak28]

"The existence of Pakistan is detrimental to India's national security." That's the ultimate truth. Well said Gaurav ji.

[@ladyfromcoorg]

I was amazed that the GOI has not already formed an Indian ISPR! Come on guys , we are the master coders . Silicon Valley and Indian CEO’s go hand in hand . Thank you Smita , discovered your channel today.

[@User15699]

India have ADGPI

[@rohitsawant5805]

Major Gaurav Arya alone is doing a better job of information warfare than whole ISPR.

[@duniyanbacchonki.]

The main reason Indian army doesn't have indian ISPR!! BECAUSE of the ethics and values of Indian army

[@amit____singh]

@@duniyanbacchonki. aaj ke time me ethics important nhi hai.... Propaganda chalta hai, hum narrative banane me abhi bhi bahut pichhe hai

[@gauravlingwal4601]

@@duniyanbacchonki. this is kaliyug even lord kirshan did not use ethics with evil

[@sumib5276]

Awesome conversation.. thanks for the simplifications Smita.. they really help! Great choices of panelists👏👏

[@PR-pp2zc]

Really appreciate as she speaks english so correctly especially her pronunciations is good unlike so many who can't speak without Mother tongue influence 😜 😉

[@jamesmcenroe7402]

Very interesting conversation about Pakistan. Gaurav Arya's statement 'A stable Pakistan is detrimental to the safety of India' is very significant one. India should learn how to fight Pakistan in social media. And Opposition parties should limit their 'opposition' to internal issues.

[@azharlatif6228]

Hindustan is surrounded by adversaries within, say be able to pay homage to their Kartarpur Guru Dawara by bus rides to Pakistan, Nagaland to Nepal or outside of its borders. Khalistan is no less of an achievement to pose existential threat to India. India is no match to win back land occupied by the Chinese. One must be able to examine profit and loss sheet by mover and shakers of Indo Pak after the independence. Our losses are mounting despite apparent rise of India, globally. Both Nations across the divide are at loss. We face mutual destruction as armed with Bomb playing zero-sum game. India is able to enjoy American favour now as Gen. Ayub was for the USA in cold war. Geopolitical landscapes are like climate change, no one knows why?

[@aatmaDipoBhava]

​@@azharlatif6228 well as absolute they are with religion 😂 in the same way they believe this statement as an aayat/Shura "HANOOD YAHOOD JISARA KI SHAAZISH HAAAAAI (from a punjabi speaking tongue forced to imitate urdu)

[@baseerahmad9]

Great talk show

[@diadon5674]

​@@azharlatif6228 as an Indian I can say that we have not seen big terror attacks targeted on civilians since 2014 and more we stay away from pak more we feel safe. When we had 'relations' with pak we had so many terror attacks ever month in any city. As a civilian I would want india to stay away from pak even if it comes with some monetary loss. We can trade with other countries who are not threat to civilians.

[@Aashu299]

@@azharlatif6228 It’s impossible to hear logic from a jehadi. Where is Khalistan now?😂

[@akd886]

I wish, when Smita used the word 'revolution' for the ongoing circus in pak, Tilak ji and Major should have just looked at each other and laughed out hysterically 😂😂😂

[@gauravchauhan6707]

Exactly

[@aparichit-thestranger3862]

Women

[@Rohit-Yaduvanshi]

Women ☕

[@asraharoon4877]

Its easy to laugh on others jab kai apni halat khrab ho slums mn rehne wale kutte

[@akd886]

@@asraharoon4877 😂😂 Aww paki momina a.k.a 'converted maskeen kutiya kanglistan wali' ko bura laga.... To aise videos dekhne ka nahi aur comments section to bilkul nahi... 😂

[@srinivasaniyengar1805]

Absolutely amazing session. U have both the hawk and the dove view and both perfectly similar !

[@neelamsingh4952]

Mindblowing ❤respect from Germany 🇩🇪♥️🇮🇳

[@MansiDutta-ez5wg]

Yeh saanp phir dasega !! Wow !! Clear and straight!! Thank you Mr Gaurav arya !!

[@nnbg8000]

Indeed, Major Arya said it well.

[@RahulArora2502]

MAAM PLEASE ONE MORE EPISODE WITH MAJOR GAURAV SIR . THERE SHOULD BE AN EPISODE FOR HIM ONLY.

[@mindawakening3873]

Wonderful discussion. Lot of knowledge shared 🙏

[@CaptainKiranKonher]

Smita ji: It was an excellent podcast on a subject I have a keen interest in with speakers I admire. Educative and well modulated. My compliments to all three of you.

[@navneet3297]

16:13 , Shahbaz Sharif said postmortem kyu nhi hua...... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 What a line...... 😂😂😂😂

[@prashantchoudhary5241]

😂🤣🤣😆🤣😆😂🤣😉😆

[@Edward4Plantagenet]

They planned imran's zanaza.

[@knight6577]

Always a bliss to listen major sir😊

[@mustubaloch1995]

Laudo major hahaha

[@rajananand5668]

Awesome and addictive....very difficult to leave in between...thanks Smita ji for such enticing interactions

[@sonylovely9279]

🙏 to "Tilak Devasher" Sir, the former Special Secretary (Cabinet Secretariat).

[@curiouscynic4357]

Love how Smita brings the conversation so smoothly without interruption but very positive points. Much appreciated. Learnt a lot from some great experts.

[@voicification]

Very mature and professional - she should run a school for the others

[@zyss-3062]

Suppos4 all haramnis done in a similar fashion throughout the world. Question to u for instance- would u go for a rape in public or private - not for her sake but for yours?

[@mercedesbenz3751]

without interruption? Did u watch the podcast properly? I was so disturbed by the interruptions.

[@AkiPlaysgupta]

@@mercedesbenz3751 thank god there's someone that shares my views XD

[@inshort5341]

She shud not have contributed to the responses.

[@apoorva629]

Everytime i listen about Baloch brothers and sisters my heart goes out... God please save them

[@ParulGoyal-sd1ci]

abhi toh vo samjha ke chuke hain, aman aur pyar ki baatein mat karo fir bhi "my heart goes out", the word radicalisation is overused, quran is the main source

[@inamdurrani9259]

We feel the same thinking about kashmiris

[@knowledgeseeker8546]

@@inamdurrani9259 thanks, but also read about Abdul Gaffar Khan, about your forefathers.

[@shoaibiization]

Your heart not goes out when u listen about kashmir Indian army terrorism and killing?

[@adrianbelko7683]

@@shoaibiization no because there is no evidence at all to back it up except for rare videos of Indian Army interrogating Informants and Militants who were out to kill civilians or raiding the houses of those informants, Kashmir has many districts and the militancy or seperationist sentiment is observed only in Shopian, that's where all the news about confrontations come out of, the rest of the Kashmir is quiet, the local Kashmiris are happy with sending their children to schools, applying for government jobs and looking after their businesses in Delhi and Mumbai like any other Indian. Baloch aren't in that kind of situation, forceful abductions, killings and regular interference of the state into the affairs of Baloch people who don't like to be dictated this way into thinking and living the way Punjabi Army wants them to think and live, When they don't even have resources to defend themselves Makes us feel helplessly sad

[@aceankit2009]

This should have been at least a 3 hour long discussion. Some excellent points mentioned. Big fan of the podcast

[@sporayath]

Great discussion Madam. Really hit the nail at the right spot. Congrats ! Madam Smita Prakash's channel is awesome. I keep watching it from USA. ~ Surendran Porayath.

[@jamannaman980]

Respect for Major Arya! I completely agree with his thought process and approach to solve this issue. Bharat will only be safe without any porkistan.

[@avnish636]

It's always good to learn more and more from Major Saab. Tilak sir's books are gold if you want to learn deeply about Pakistan and it's environment. RESPECT 🙏

[@dhruvinshah2767]

Really like the depth of the discussion in the podcast series . I love how we have shifted from news channels dragging 10 news items for an hour , with content of less than a minute few years back to such intellectual discussions. Please keep doing the good work .

[@Ashish.YouTube.]

Mr Tilak is very well read. What a pleasure to hear them talk!

[@geecee5291]

I was in the US and on the customer side unfortunately there was a naturalized Pakistani. Whenever we hosted a customer luncheon in an local Indian restaurant, he will always and invariably ask if they had any beef dishes. I was not surprised but rather pitiful of their pettiness and low moral standards...

[@suvojitsardar2735]

They should reply ,"Have you ever taste any pork dish . You should have one."

[@MuhammadIbrahim-ls1nk]

You should not generalise and be less racist - yes that person should have respected your religion. Q: who owned the restaurant and did they have beef?

[@MuhammadIbrahim-ls1nk]

@@suvojitsardar2735 He was not saying to this gentleman to eat beef! So, please have a look at your remarks and morality.

[@PraveenKamboj_Bablu]

Should have ordered pork, although you don't have to it. 🙂 Uski basha me hi jewab de do 😉

[@MuhammadIbrahim-ls1nk]

@Kraken Thunder Bhai kehna kya chahty ho? Generalisation ki hui hai jo k absolutely wrong hai. Aur saath saath "Their" pettiness and low standards daal diya hai. Mtlb itni hate towards Pakistanis.

[@amanyaduvanshi17]

1:16:06 Let the Pakistanis wait for some time until Yogi ji becomes PM of the country, their mindset will automatically change.

[@MrRahul6464]

Tab modi ka smaran karege. 😄

[@biswarupbanerjee7247]

😀.. Exactly

[@fusion7837]

No, mindset comes from q*ran, watch Apostat Propht

[@subodhsingh9533]

Decently conducted proceeding by every participants. Such proceedings always churn into precious conclusions. Thanks to the whole team

[@XerxesLangrana]

What a wonderful episode! Thank you Smita Prakash.

[@shekhar1438]

Absolutely straight and to the face conversation. Major Arya Sir has guts and the truth he spoke about radicalised Pakistani’s is absolutely true! We need to be extremely careful to protect our country.

[@sunsherman1982]

Their abject poverty & Global warming , will take care of it. Recent floods devastated almost 40% of their economy. They need humanitarian help.

[@jarp5581]

Yeh Vishu bhagwan ke mahima hai Lord takes care of his devotees and finishes of adharmis you have to be dharmik or else get out

[@jarp5581]

If lord is killing someone you don't go help them

[@palmtrees123]

Smita ma'am please let Tilak Devasher sir talk without interrupting. He is a senior knowledgeable man and we don't want to lose out on what he's saying. Please don't break every sentence of his.

[@rishi_6266]

She is a wannabe journalist born in a privileged journalist family but a dumb as a dodo. She is not informative and hence interrupts a lot by making statements and not even questions just to sound intellectual. All she has is a good looking studio with a loud mouth.

[@santochele1993]

Major Sahab Also an Scholar of Pakistani Affair

[@javeriahabib5356]

Being 🇵🇰, It's good to hear "open minded thoughts" apart from all the political conflicting chaotic thing.

[@rabarimehul8608]

41:09 amazing... Before that 1.30 minute & after that 1.30 minute

[@girishchandwani9897]

Great conversation. Gaurav and Tilak Saheb were brilliant. It is about time the Indian Govt. Takes heed to them and implement their suggestion as it is about time the importance of 5th generation warfare should be considered in all seriousness.

[@bgbg2931]

In 1983, India won cricket world cup, after that cricket game took rocket start among youngsters and Indians started thinking, we do have some element to do something. Till date Kapil Dev is above all cricketers in India, so, this change has made Imran Khan to think differently.

[@easwarsir-mathsphysicsexpe128]

Thanks Madam..really capactivating talk..you as host and the guests..lots of knowledge and insights👍🙏

[@barlasakhlaq351]

I have been watching your channel since twomonths. It is very interesting and informative. .❤

[@asingh1174]

Always loved listening to Gaurav sir but it was my first time listening to Tilak sir and I must say I'm amazed by his knowledge. Loved this episode, full of new insights and perspective. Thank you Smrita ma'am for inviting them, thoroughly enjoyed this one

[@ge00]

Major saying facts in every single line Major gaurav Arya is gem for India 😎

[@chingling4375]

Good Journalism ANI News. To the point , crisp , clear and no rhetoric. 👍

[@joellewis5989]

Best podcast on this issue! Major sahab more power to you!!! Always learned something new from you. Mr. Devasherji is someone who needs to come more often on streams. We need more people like you

[@Rocean]

Major Arya Rocks! 🔥🔥🔥

[@prashantraut8920]

Pakistan is nothing but Punjab....nailed it

[@thepalebluedot4171]

That's right Panjabistan by the military 111 brigade.

[@dineshnagpal6193]

Really, very unique and excellent and worth listening and eye opener and fascinating discussions.a big salute to Smita prakash mam, divakar sir and major gaurav Arya sir. Waheguru aap sabhi ko bulandiyan bakshe.

[@krishnaprasanth123]

57:47 absolutely correct

[@AkashKumar-yt8eh]

Existence of pak is detrimental to India's national security!! Gaurav and Tilak जी nailed it!!

[@50sghosh]

Way to go Gauravji. This interview is a must watch for all of India.

[@shankarnarayananiyer8715]

1:17:33 hour of pure gold❤️