Ep.142 The New AMT 64 Oldsmobile 442 1/25th Scale Model Car Kit

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[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

I've finally moved to my own place and I am SO looking forward to digging out all of my old kit! Some have been in storage for 10 years.

[@downthethroatmodeling]

I agree about the ‘65. My parents bought a new one my Junior year in HS. I had a ‘53 Ford but would borrow the Olds for dates

[@ravenwinger1]

Will be on the lookout for this. Local Hobby Lobby Just got the convertible. Rather have the hardtop. Had a 65 F85 330 2 barrel. Cloth bench seats, Forest Green on Green. Loved that car till a red light runner took it out.

[@blizzy6392]

I'd wait for the hardtop if I were you. They both the exact same kit, just different bodies. Same custom and racing parts. The hardtop kit has been modified to represent a decent 4-4-2 but can still be built as a F-85 Cutlass. I bought both, my convertible is built.

[@cliffthompson4004]

Nice kit Matt has alot of options thanks for unboxing and showing it may pick one up. I have to get more work done on my 40' Ford as well, enjoy your the week ahead

[@roysradscalemodels9031]

I bet the model will turn out really nice when your done

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Thank you

[@PontiacBanker]

I’m a Pontiac guy, but this one interested me enough that I bought it.

[@blizzy6392]

This Cutlass is a kissin' cousin to the '65 GTO. Too bad AMT didn't make an actual hardtop body for their '65 GTO kit...

[@bigeddie1231]

cool looking kit just pick up two of them thanks for a look in the box

[@danrosenello4847]

Thanks for the review sir ! I got this kit a few weeks ago. I’ve been thinking I’ll build it as a street machine, using the chassis from a spare ‘66 442 kit I’ve got. Maybe Cragars, maybe later style 442 rally wheels. Then you go and mock up that big slick in the wheel well….😳 You know, I’ve got a pro street ‘67 Chevelle chassis that will fit. Now, what can I do to the engine to “Hot Rod” it……. 🤔

[@JohnW1711stock]

Pro Street it with the 67 Chevelle chassis! They are the same chassis from the factory. Same wheelbase, and width. Cool build. My first car was a 70, W-30, silver with black stripes.

[@ScaleModelKustoms]

That body is cool! I had a 64 F85 in HS, factory 4-speed, bought if for 400 bucks man wish I still had it!

[@deepjunkgarage]

I wanted the F-85 convertible because I had the kit years ago and never did build it, the 442 hardtop is another must have and I'm thinking like you that will make a very nice simple build ...... and it's going to be fun ! 🍻

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

Cool kit that you can do a lot with!

[@Toppervision1]

Well it's good to get the kit re-issued and available again. I dunno, I kinda dig the custom hood, although not quite right for that particular car.

[@mickangio16]

I just ordered this kit from AutoWorld at closeout price of $14.99🙂 I should have ordered two because I actually want to build it two different ways. I also would have preferred a '65, but I still like it- especially as the custom version of it that I want to build. I want to build it with the custom front & rear and supercharged engine that hopefully will fit under the stock hood. Undecided about side pipes yet. I'm thinking cream color interior to simulate the beautiful parchment interior that I had in a '68 GTO many years ago and either Aztec Gold or Candy Green paint. The box art describes tires as red stripe or gold stripe(?) I would prefer narrow whitewalls. Will have to see wheels/hubcaps to make choice. That's how I'm imagining building the kit that is on it's way but I would also like to build it as a "day 2" type hotrod as your plan.

[@thebeardedguyjefflawless5887]

I had a 1964 F85 330 automatic bucket seats and console. Red/white in and out. The wheel wells are correct the C pillar looks out of scale but not too bad

[@BGsModelWorkshop]

This does look like a cool kit and I am looking forward to what you do with it!

[@chuckymonster1000]

I thinks is a decent kit.but it will take a lil bit to be a great kit.I would build it lol

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Exactly. I'm gonna try to have it build for our next model car meeting. I DOBBLE DOG DARE YOU!

[@michaelparker494]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel Don't forget the '40 Ford.

[@modelcarswithglen.]

Hi Lucas,, don't overlook the custom motor in that kit I put one in a street rod and it looks killer,,,,,just saying

[@blizzy6392]

Some car modelers have noted that the front axle holes are set too far back on this and the convertible kits. They recommend that the front axle holes be drilled 2 mm forwards for a more-correct stock look.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Thank you

[@mickangio16]

Thanks for that tip. I am gonna build this kit soon. I probably would have noticed it but will know to look for the flaw now👍

[@mittenstatebushcraft6381]

I have the convertable. Not much of a convertable fan, but for some reason I have several convertables in my stash and I just finished that 70 Challenger R/T convertable. I was looking forward to this hardtop and will pick it up soon.

[@HobbyNutModels]

Mark from HobbyNut here, FYI, Fireball Modelworks makes rubber BFG tires…

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Thanks Mark. You're right. I've bought tires from them. The quality is very nice.

[@morriscustommodelshop8345]

I've built the convertible and based on that experience I bought the hard top at ACME. It is a fun build my friend.

[@rickr442]

The '64 4-4-2 only offered a 4-speed stick. 4-barrel/4-speed/ dual exhaust! So you're just building it as a Cutlass. More of an issue, you may want to adjust the chassis so that the wheels are positioned correctly in the wheel wells. I like where you're headed with this...

[@mickangio16]

I'm sure it's built by now. I would like much to see it🙂

[@loraphillips8588]

if its the same body make a resin grill or a laser printed one

[@kenswonger4738]

next summer I'm hoping to build both cars.because I'm letting them wait tell then.

[@70delta]

I’m hoping round 2 tools up a 65 body

[@MileHighScaleModeler]

Great video! Gave me a lot of ideas now and never would’ve thought of grabbing that kit. I would use that custom hood on a build if I ever build it. Enjoyed!

[@blizzy6392]

13:40 That funny front bumper/grille piece: Around 1967, the 1964 convertible annual was modified/repurposed into an F-85 Cutlass "Streaker" altered-wheelbase funny car and that was it's modified drag front end.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I wish they would have fixed it. Since they did all of that other work to the tooling.

[@blizzy6392]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel Yeah. But notice that Round2 restruck an all-new front bumper/grille and rear bumper set (from the promo mould??). Nice to get BOTH.

[@TheMuscleCarModeler]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel Flip the chrome bag over. There is another front and rear bumper in the kit.

[@mickangio16]

​@@TheMuscleCarModeler nice to know👍

[@michaelparker494]

Lindbergh did a 66 Cutlass .

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I have it.

[@modelcarswithglen.]

Make a nice gasser

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Good idea

[@imthemilkmanbackup]

This is my first kit I'm just waiting on glue and paint

[@mitchmichalec7619]

The stock steering wheel is the two spoke.

[@blizzy6392]

In 1964, the only model of an Oldsmobile was the Cutlass in a convertible and a hardtop. AMT took over making Olds models for the GM division from Jo-han who made Oldsmobile promos and kits from 1956 to 1963. For 1965, AMT's only Oldsmobile kit and promo was the Dynamic 88 hardtop (with Starfire wheel covers). No one made a '65 Cutlass or 4-4-2 model in 1965. These AMT '64 Cutlass kits are exciting blasts from the past and we a lucky for the current production energy by Round2. If you are hoping for 1990s-on kit design in these kits, you'll be disappointed. Think AMT '64 Impala, that's the tech of this kit...a return to modeling circa-1964. Note: The original AMT Cutlass hardtop was not a 4-4-2. Round2 modified this kit to more closely resemble a '64 4-4-2.

[@paulr3237]

Wow, that was difficult to watch. What I would like to see is a re issue of the 1961 Oldsmobile F-85 6 cylinder.

[@joeculpjr3028]

Hey Matt! I'm with you, the '64 BOP and chevy are ok, but also prefer the '65's. Just something about them gets my tires all sticky.

[@paintnamer6403]

It's better than not being released. I bought the '64 convertible on a whim and it has gobs of custom parts but almost the same engine and options. I never used any of the custom body parts ever on what they were meant for. Wheels, tires and stance then maybe a hood scoop. I find some of those acrylic metal flake paints are way out of scale. If you care about 1/25 vs 1/24 I think you will see that the flakes are freakishly huge in some brands of general art paint. I like the '65 -'67s better.

[@garyparker2969]

THAT HIDEOUS HOOD SCOOP RUINS EVERYTHING 😭😭 RIGHT ALONG WITH THE GRILLED LICENSE PLATE AREA IN THE FRONT BUMPER 😭😭😭😭 !!! Have a Blessed Wknd Sir 🤗🤗.

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

YEAH!!😆

[@garyparker2969]

👍👍👍

[@raymondgower9862]

Fireball model works has a set of BFGs

[@michaelcooke2559]

That car really isn’t my cup of tea, but it looks like a nice trouble free build. If it is still around after I get more kits in my bucket list, I’ll probably buy one. Good idea with the bigger tires. I’ve got to get some more tires, right now I really don’t have any options other than what comes with kits.

[@SPSteve]

I agree the 65 442 is much more appealing, I had a white 65 442 with red interior 4 speed back in the 80's. It's nice having 64-87 Cutlass/442 Oldsmobile kits because there aren't that many, but it's hard to get excited about this model. They say the engine is new, but for being new it's not very impressive. It has a 2bbl carb, the heads lack definition, it has a Jetaway/Powerglide automatic when all 64 442's had 4 speeds. The steel axles through the oil pan are super lame. The molded in under-chassis components are super lame. The first year for disc brakes in an A body was 1967. I can't help but feel that Round 2 is just milking it. It looks like a total reissue of the mid 60's kit with no updates. Maybe there's a 64-65 Chevelle kit out there that the frame, floor pan, suspension and rear end can be used with this 64 Olds body? Good luck

[@blizzy6392]

This kit contains two sets of engine block halves: one with the original 'Jetaway' automatic transmission and one with a 4-speed manual transmission for the 4-4-2. The air cleaner was modified to a dual-snorkle 4-4-2 type. The original AMT '64 annual Cutlass hardtop kit was not a 4-4-2 model but Round2 reproduced this kit (after an absence of 57 years!) so that it could be built as a regular Cutlass, like the original kit, or a reasonable 4-4-2 model, which makes it more marketable to the muscle car fans. I say mucho cudos to Round2!

[@SPSteve]

@@blizzy6392 You guys are the ones buying these kits. If you think this model is worth 39.99 then buy away, I'm sure Round 2 is glad you are. Like you said a 57 year absence, things have come a long way in the modeling world in that time, but not with this kit. This kit should be the poster child of what's wrong with the model car hobby. While armor and aircraft models continue to evolve and get better and better, model car buyers are stuck with this garbage.

[@blizzy6392]

@@SPSteve Disagree. I am an odd duck that likes old kits from the original "Golden Age." I love the rod and custom era of the '50s and '60s. I like kits that carry the spirit and flavor of the '60s car culture. If Round2 repackages old AMT and MPC, I'm there...crude as some of those kits were. If you prefer post-1980s muscle car kits with separate frames and suspension parts, go for it. I leave those kits to their fans. And speaking of the future, did you notice that this kit appeared once in 1964 then vanished for 57 years until Round2 did some modern magic that put it back on the shelf for us fans? What was that magic that put a thrashed kit back from the abiss? I think we're looking into the next phase of model kit making technology.

[@SPSteve]

@@blizzy6392 If this kit was $19.99 it wouldn't be such a big deal, but it seems Round 2 tries to give the impression this is a new tool kit and that just isn't true and $39.99 is way too much money for this model. If you want to see what is available today in the model aircraft world, check out some Zoukie Mura brand kits on KZbin. Car models in general are so far behind and this is the level of detail car kit manufacturers should be aiming for. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b33GiKFufJWXbtU

[@blizzy6392]

@@SPSteve I don't disagree that kits' prices are too high. Why is an AMT kit $34.90 US and Revell $24.90 US? (Model Roundup prices). It seems like yesterday that the price tags were $34 (Cdn.), now they're $44-49. In the 2000s, Walmart sold AMT/Ertl kits made in China for $12.97 ($10 US). That all came to an end around 2007 then kits were over $30. Our Michael's craft stores were selling kits for $19.99 US with their discount coupon but the selection was extremely limited and wouldn't have included the AMT Cutlass kits. Now, they don't sell model kits anymore, so that's done. That aircraft kit you linked to was impressive, but what's the cost. Plus, you know what, if it were a car, I'd never build it. I don't do super detail. An AMT Trophy kit is my limit and my enjoyment on multiple levels. I can't control the prices of kits. It's take it or leave it and I'm not yet at leaving the hobby yet (my aging eyes and shaking hands might do that for me). Funny, looking at that detailed aircraft model reminded me of the Grand Opera. It makes the AMT '64 4-4-2 kit look like a '60s Frankie and Annette Beach movie by comparison. Cheesy but fun. To me, that's fine.

[@rickzinck9326]

Nice review. I have that kit on back order along with some others. Hope it shows up soon.

[@calvincooley1074]

Pro Street?

[@maxbrandt6]

Grumpy Luka!

[@michaelparker494]

AMT made a 66 Cutlass in the '80s .

[@MarkBatsonHobbydude007]

Wow! This is a really cool kit!! I think the rear wheel well looks right. ?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I agree

[@PatRedmond]

Good plan. Budget street machine. Howabout the AMT 70 1/2 Baldwin/Motion Camaro rolling stock?

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

Pat! Get the HECK out of my HEAD! That is just what I decided on going with. Great suggestion 👌.

[@PatRedmond]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel ...... 'Great minds think alike' ..... OR ......' Fools seldom differ'. You choose.

[@michaelhintzmikesminiature1812]

👍👍👍

[@blizzy6392]

7:41 Careful how you 'hot rod' that 330 'Jetfire Rocket' V-8. If the intake system is too tall, the stock hood won't fit on the body. (Hence the "hideous" racing hood.) 10:02 The '64 Cutlass only had 4-wheel drum brakes. The two front disc brakes were merely a 1960's kid's wet dream (like those Lola GT Mk.6 custom wheels).

[@brianrussell1565]

Complaints more than a woman

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

You listen like a woman. 👩

[@modelcarswithglen.]

Dull boring overpriced kit,,sorry, just my opinion

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

I thought the same thing. But now I'm glad I got it. But YES. This kit is overpriced.

[@michaelparker494]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel All the kits are overpriced.

[@modelcarswithglen.]

@@TheLukaCeeChannel I'm going to take your word for it and order one,,it is a nice looking body

[@blizzy6392]

Yes. All Round2 kits are expensive. Revell is cheaper for some reason. Either pay up or no new kit for you... P.S., my greater hobby shop count has now gone from 5 to 4. We lost a shop that had slightly cheaper kits (of course).

[@modelcarswithglen.]

@@blizzy6392 the best place to buy cheap kits is hobby lobby but only every other week when they are 40 per cent off