Ep. 21 CB_YT -

[@Neal_Daedalus]

You did great in this conversation, Christian! ❤

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Thanks 🙏🏼 Neal!

[@stefaniecristos8514]

Thank you, Christian, that was such a good conversation. You asked so many questions that resonated with me. 😄 how openly you are both sharing your stories.

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Thank you for the affirmation and encouragement Stefanie!

[@nickgroves-dv9zj]

Please Jordan Hall... Get yourself a nice microphone 🎙️!! 😭

[@christianbaxter_yt]

This fact is entering meme status : )

[@Seth_D_Myers]

Resting in mystery. In uncertainty. Opens up the mystic. Boundlessness. And faith.

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Yes! Great spot.

[@nickgroves-dv9zj]

12:05 @jordan hall try Molinism

[@christianbaxter_yt]

02:04 🏡 Formation of Church Community During COVID Formation of a church community during COVID lockdowns. People gathered in houses to continue practicing their faith. The community mixed people from different denominations, fostering diversity. 05:32 🌱 Richness of Community Life in Church Vibrant spiritual and intellectual life within the church community. Emphasis on the fruits of the spirit and discipleship. House church gatherings supplement traditional Sunday services, fostering deeper connections. 09:14 🤔 Wrestling with Theological Concepts Reflecting on theological concepts like predestination and human freedom. Embracing mystery as an essential aspect of faith. Recognizing the limitations of intellectual understanding and the importance of lived experience. 17:00 🌟 Embracing Embodied Faith Over Intellectual Assent Highlighting the importance of embodying faith rather than mere intellectual assent. Recognizing the intertwining of faith and works in the Christian life. Moving beyond a focus on propositional truth to living truthfully in one's actions and relationships. 24:14 📚 Early Influence of Jordan Peterson Recollection of encountering Jordan Peterson's early work in Harvard. Influence of Peterson's ideas on mythology and symbolism. Priming towards deeper thinking about meaning and integrity. 30:47 🏞 Embodied Faith and Community Transition from controlling worship to embodying faith in community. Importance of paying attention to bodily experiences in relation to faith. Shift from individualistic control to shared participation in community rituals. 31:35 🤝 Evolution of Civium Thesis Journey from carrying too much to learning to share burdens in community. Metaphorical orchestration of community roles leading to clarity of purpose. Conceptualization of civium as embodied community engagement and spiritual alignment. 37:10 💒 Consecration of Sacred Rituals Transformation of secular wedding into a sacred ceremony within the church community. Experience of communal support and participation in consecrating beliefs. Symbolic significance of rituals in embodying shared faith and beliefs. 44:33 🌐 Digital Platforms and Scaling Goodness Discussion on maintaining quality relationships amidst digital interactions. Balancing scalability with preserving the intimacy of community. Exploration of how digital spaces can facilitate meaningful conversations while adhering to the Dunbar principle. 46:06 🏗 Partitioning and Proper Place Emphasizes the importance of partitioning and placing things in their proper context. Discusses the historical conjunction between humans and machines, leading to a need for separation. Outlines the potential consequences of continuing to blur the boundaries between humans and machines, advocating for a clear partitioning. 48:01 🔄 Virtual and Real Relationships Explores the concept of virtual and real relationships in the context of human-machine interaction. Discusses the pace of relationship growth and the role of technology in facilitating connections. Advocates for maintaining boundaries in virtual interactions while fostering meaningful human connections. 51:04 ⚖ Seeking Communion and Proper Boundaries Advocates for seeking communion that uplifts towards the transcendent while maintaining proper boundaries. Discusses the role of religion and institutions in guiding human behavior and values. Emphasizes the importance of avoiding idolatry and finding alignment with higher principles. 01:07:37 🏡 The Importance of Traditional Values and Mentorship Traditional values and mentorship are crucial for guiding young people in today's society. Witnessing examples of traditional courtship and guidance from elders helps shape ideas of proper conduct. There's a recognition of the loss of traditional values and a need to rebuild them for the benefit of future generations. 01:09:00 🗳 The Limits of Political Solutions Relying solely on political solutions for societal problems is inadequate. Jordan Greenhall emphasizes the importance of subsidiarity and shifting power and responsibility to local levels. Political polarization and intensity lead to unsustainable outcomes, emphasizing the need for a different approach. 01:11:00 🙏 Personal Integrity and Community Building Building a better society starts with personal integrity and confession. Confession and healing, both with oneself and with others, are essential steps towards personal growth. Engaging with a supportive community that holds individuals accountable fosters meaningful personal transformation. 01:13:25 🌟 Redefining Elite and Community Strength Elite status is redefined as those who heed the call to strengthen genuine communities. Being part of a community and contributing to its strength is what defines true elite status. Upholding truth and wholesomeness within communities is vital for societal resilience and growth.

[@teestrypzSOG]

Bruh, You are on FIRE

[@christianbaxter_yt]

👀 I’m trying to approach this stuff honestly, and honestly it is difficult. But thank you Tayo!

[@mostlynotworking4112]

God orchestrated Jordan’s life to be in this kairos moment. Successful tech entrepreneur as we face AI and VR tsunami. Embodied practitioner

[@christianbaxter_yt]

I share this exact sentiment

[@Padronfan]

Wow! This was so good. Thank you

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Thanks so much PadroF! What part stood out to you?

[@Padronfan]

@@christianbaxter_yt Everything that was said was worth chewing on. Def my favorite part was about rethinking elites, but I also particularly appreciated your metaphor about leading worship as control or participation.

[@FoodTruckEmily]

I love Divine Conspiracy

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Yes! Willard is even more timely for this day and age…

[@FoodTruckEmily]

@@christianbaxter_yt I reread chapter 8 so many times - on the hate and relationship to shame and contempt- it blew my mind 🤯

[@christianbaxter_yt]

@@FoodTruckEmily probably need to read that.

[@FoodTruckEmily]

@@christianbaxter_yt I tried to get people to read it with me and I couldn’t -still mad about that

[@chezispero3533]

Who’s next? Jorden Peterson ??

[@christianbaxter_yt]

I think that ship sailed years ago, but I’d be down : )

[@chezispero3533]

Ye of little faith

[@christianbaxter_yt]

@@chezispero3533 I know that’s true… : )

[@JordanGreenhall]

He will be at the Summit . .

[@christianbaxter_yt]

@@JordanGreenhall yes I saw that… well, I do believe in miracles.

[@SacraTessan]

.A sense of truth from Both of You ....with high intensity presence 🧡🙏 (nice to see some shawed chins too)

[@Pseudo_Boethius]

It sees Jordan Hall became ensnared in one of the greatest traps of Evangelical Christianity: house church! I've been a house church advocate most of my life, and Jordan does a fantastic job of explaining the benefits of it. Also loved hearing his story about the other Jordan, Jordan Peterson, and how early he became aware of him! How cool was that! Great job CB!!!

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Thank you 🙏🏼 PB! Yes that JBP story was awesome.

[@mostlynotworking4112]

Dude you really did ascent the hierarchy

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Honestly, it was very overwhelming this week and I did a lot of processing preparing for the conversation

[@mostlynotworking4112]

@@christianbaxter_yt no doubt it took a lot on top of normal life. Thank you for your service

[@christianbaxter_yt]

@@mostlynotworking4112 I also spent some time listening to your podcast last week too, you got your handle from a Mikhaila Peterson podcast ; )

[@mostlynotworking4112]

@@christianbaxter_ytI give you the grim griz due dilletante badge. The info has always been out there 🥇

[@maebaxter_yt]

🖤

[@christianbaxter_yt]

This is a secret message if anyone is paying close enough attention ; ) 😍😘

[@joecross720]

das good

[@KollarConsulting]

Christian & Jordan- that was a fantastically rich dialogos. It was life-giving to virtually be a part of it. Thank you. The depth of caring that went into the discussion and earnest tone is palpable. It was precise and somewhat technical when needed and then playful and accessible when needed. Just a really true conversation gentlemen. I look forward to hopefully a round 2 where you guys dive into that new definition of elite, and what that could look like in a movement of Christian civium, in the real and virtual environments, and how “TLC+” plays a part in that. 🏗️🕊️🙏🏼. Onward and upward. Amen gents.

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Thank you for this genuine, kind, and intentional response Kollar… I hope that does happen, it was really an honor to get to dialogue with him.