Ep.3 of Interview with the Vampire gave me everything I didn’t know I wanted

My favorite episode! ...of the 5 I've seen so far 👀 A Vampire Chronicles expert’s breakdown of episode 3 of AMC’s Anne Rice’s Interview with the Vampire TV series.
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[@annagraceman8679]

I think one of the potential interesting things about gender bending Antoine into Antoinette is that now as a white woman she's someone who Lestat could be with publicly, in a way that Lestat and Louis couldn't be as an interracial queer couple. It could be something for Louis to feel insecure or threatened by, though Idk if they dig into it more in later episodes but I feel like the contrast between the two relationships has the potential to be a lot more interesting than just normal straight washing. Especially in the context of Lestat pretty much dismissing/not bothering to understand how racism very much still impacts Louis even post-transformation

[@Busha69]

That's the only way I am able to accept this genderswap.

[@insomniaddict6510]

Oh wow never thought of it in this way!

[@freddyjafar1490]

Yh but Lestat chooses Louis❤️

[@angelacanedit]

I actually don't think the show tries to downplay the racial power dynamic between Lestat and Louis at all. If anything, it's highlighted. Between the dialogue of their first interaction, Louis equating being called a fledgeling to being called a slave, Louis calling out Lestat's romantization of a past where black people had things even harder, etc. I don't see Lestat being positioned as a perfect ally at all, rather as an ignorant liberal. And I like that! It's realistic. He lives in a world where racism is very normalized and he's not a victim of it. He can't fully comprehend what it's like being in Louis' shoes. I think the fact that Louis is rather in denial about the imbalance of their relationship in present day does not change what we are seeing happen in the past. To me, Daniel confronting Louis is about showing us how Louis has on rose colored glasses when thinking about parts of the past. It's reinforcing the fact that Louis is an unreliable narrator, not silencing people who would point out the power dynamic.

[@jeanfox6276]

Exactly!!!

[@alextailor1089]

Yea no. Imagine being butthurt because they don't wanna stir the EXACT same racism pot that 90% of shows and movies are doing nowadays. Lmfao

[@andreastory800]

@@alextailor1089 What gives you the idea the commenter is “butthurt”?? She’s just pointing out the obvious.

[@alextailor1089]

@@andreastory800 I used the term butthurt for ones who are genuinely upset because Louis shut down Daniel's race baiting. I reread the OPs comment and it does make sense. But that doesn't mean people still aren't upset that they didn't get to have an episode/show in which it centers on racism and all its inner mechanical workings. We already have a thousand shows and movies on that. Let this be a vampire show not a social commentary

[@angelacanedit]

@@alextailor1089 Not sure if you're talking about me, but I'm not complaining about anything

[@cbrownjc7633]

Here's the subtle thing about them making Antoine into Antoinette: they (the writers) had Lestat choose to be with a *white woman.* Someone who society would *never* look down on him for being with or whisper about being with in a derogatory way. Someone with who he can freely go on a date to the opera and could walk next to him as she did so. Someone who herself is a singer and into music, just like Lestat. Human society wouldn't look twice at them getting married and being together. Antoinette is someone who WOULD make Louis feel deep jealousy because she is an *actual threat* in the view of Louis, who is still clinging to his humanity and, through that, human society. I don't think Lestat deliberately picked Antoinette because she was white or a woman. I don't at all think his thinking on the issue went that deep. But being black myself, I can guarantee the thought went that way for Louis. The writers were deliberate in making Antoine into Antoinette, and I don't think it was a straight-washing thing. It was a subtle commentary on some of the hard dynamics of interracial relationships. And that is, sometimes, it's just *easier* to be with someone of your own race because of the outside whispers and microaggressions that can come at you, even sometimes from your own family. And this version of the relationship between Lestat and Louis happens to be a gay interracial relationship. So it's not just the homophobia issues, but the racial dynamics Louis sees with Lestat's choice of Antoinette. Something Louis wouldn't have felt if Lily was still alive and had been in Antoinette's place instead. If it had been Lily, I don't think Louis would have been remotely as jealous as he was. Because human society would have never viewed Lily to be a suitable partner/lover for Lestat either, even if she had never been a prostitute. And you know, the same goes for Louis' "romantic" choice in this episode. As a black, queer man himself, who's known Louis since they were teens, Jonah would be able to relate to and understand Louis *way* more in so many ways than Lestat ever can or could really. And I think Lestat, deep down, knows that. Again, if it had been Lily or even some other queer white man Louis chose, I can't say I think Lesat's jealousy would have come out the same way it did as it did with Jonah. (Notice that all the WWI vets in the house were white? The ones Lestat said Louis could f--k and he could then eat? I think that was deliberate too.)

[@ridge7524]

True💯

[@andreastory800]

Agree!!!

[@successogochukwu4363]

Exactly.. It's good to finally see someone else understand and explain the racial nuances that we POCs instantly catch in this show.

[@GothMusicLatinAmerica]

"What, you think just because I have criticisms, I don't like it?" This is such an important point that I think a lot of people online forget sometimes. You can have something that you see both good and bad in.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

YES! (But, also, because she'd never actually specified if she did or didn't like it personally or overall in her previous reviews/videos either. Sometimes, it helps to specify/clarify, rather than leaving it simply up to people's own personal assumptions or perceptions/interpretations. 🙂)

[@YoRouable]

I loved episode 3 and how it was basically "Vampires Having Marital Problems: The Musical".

[@MrSandman_0981]

So true 😆

[@shadowseer07]

Louis and Lestat just chilling domestically and having deep Anne Ricean philosophical convos is probably my new fave thing ever, more please.😍👌🏽

[@gilsurf8]

Hahaha.. mine too.

[@TearfulMoon]

I wouldn't take what Louis says as "silencing" the audience. I see it as what he as a character thinks. Not necessary what the showrunners want us to think. They already established him as unreliable narrator. Also I prefer Lestat as an a-hole. He might "write" himself as a hero, but there're too many characters who find him annoying at least. If show portrayed him as goody two shoes from the get go it just would be boring. Also while Louis might have warmed up after 50 years from the last interview he might still carry some of that old resentment towards Lestat.

[@angelacanedit]

agree! it makes sense to me that louis would see it that way, but that doesn't make it true.

[@_k_n_]

I agree with a lot of this but the only thing I really have a major difference of opinion on is the direction of Louis' character development. I dont think its confused, I think its complex. Contradictory. Messy. Louis is layered. I saw the violence and immediate regret after such harsh consequence, completely logical. He is struggling. And his struggle, the back and forth, the journey to being all of himself without guilt takes time. I would've found it. a lot less interesting if he just suddenly was cured of all his major issues because ✨vampire✨. It's easier and simpler, yes, but this makes more sense for the way hes characterized.

[@klowwwww]

agreed! You can still see book louis in jacob but he is waaay more interesting and realistic with these complex layers to his morality. A 100% book version of louis would be incredibly boring in a visual medium.

[@nazarisreyes6037]

My theory is that Lestat and Louis are back together in the present, which is way Louis seems way more forgiving and romantic about their story, like Daniel points out, also, would explain Louis being able to drink w moderation

[@bluboy4ver2]

I like all the intricate conflicts that Louis and Lestat have especially now adding race into the equation. At it’s core I feel like The Vampire Chronicles is the Love Story of Lestat and Louis because it’s always shows them coming back to one another regardless of the obstacles between them. Lestat not fully understanding Louis plight as a Queer Black in the early 1900’s and Louis struggle with his queer shame and catholic guilt standing in the way of him growing closer to Lestat are so intriguing. I can’t wait to see how they handle their dynamic in the present versus how it was in the past.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

ME TOO! I wonder if they're going to stick to the book order of events and have Lestat now still be sleeping underground in 2022 then wake up next year and read the book/interview and get inspired to do all his shenanigans and then we get to see them reunite. OR is he already awake and out there in the world somewhere living it up?? If so, why hasn't either Louis or Daniel hinted at it 👀

[@bluboy4ver2]

@@MavenoftheEventide Agreed, I’m also wondering if this is meant to be Louis’s love letter to Lestat to wake him up from his slumber. If Lestat is already awake and parading around as a Pop Star perhaps he’s using a moniker or different name and Louis is doing this because Lestat hasn’t responded to him telepathically reaching out. Based on Louis having the fire gift I’m also curious how far along in the present we are because wouldn’t it be crazy if the events of Queen of the Damned already happened. What if this is Louis’s reflection on his past with Lestat after seeing him again in the present.

[@ebonijayde]

@@bluboy4ver2 Good points . I have been wondering too if this is post Queen of the Damned. I think it’s deliberate on the show’s part.

[@freddyjafar1490]

@@bluboy4ver2 perhaps they had a falling out separating them with Claudia and Louis going off to Europe. Idk why but I think Louis will assume Lestat's name to travel Europe haha. Dumb theory. And perhaps after all the debacle with losing Claudia in Europe to the satanic cult, he's been alone for so long amd realizes hey, perhaps Lestat wasn't so bad! So, he's trying to manipulate Daniel into releasing this new interview to "wake" Lestat and bring him back. Idk. Something about the music bit struck me and hit me differently.

[@bluboy4ver2]

@@freddyjafar1490 Agreed, I definitely think Louis is using Daniel to get Lestat back. The fact that Louis seems more likened to Lestat in the present makes it appear that Louis knows they’re meant to be. Especially with his servant calling him a god and him having the fire gift would imply he’s had power up from the source like Lestat.

[@viridian5maureen853]

Louis' flip-flop on killing the alderman made sense to me. He tormented, killed, disemboweled, and displayed the alderman out of his rage and urge for revenge and enjoyed it, even as he said he only did it "for his people." But as a result of his actions, a riot starts, many, many of his people die or are murdered, and the area of New Orleans they live and work in, including his businesses, burns down so they lost everything. All of that is now on his conscience, and he still feels links to his humanity so he has regrets about what he did, even if Lestat can't understand that. Lestat is certain all this would happen eventually anyway so why be bothered by it, but if it happened later it wouldn't have been directly because of Louis. I'm sure Louis' feeling that he redeemed himself by saving Claudia's life won't last long!

[@dominicaudy8479]

I don’t know if this will include the inconsistencies in character development in ep. 2, but a local reviewer wrote that the more the season progresses (he seems to have seen them all as he mentions the last episode) the more it’s apparent that Louis is once again not the most reliable narrator and his version still has internal contradictions. I wonder if they’re truly preemptively stopping the audience from criticizing the way the interracial dynamics is shown and not rather building up to a reveal that despite all of Louis’s denial there truly is something there that at one point Daniel will manage to force Louis to admit. It’s so obvious that while Lestat isn’t per se racist, he’s also perfectly aware that this is important for Louis and playing the ally card is paying off, and it seems a bit obvious as well that Lestat is very much a white saviour, who probably sees himself as a far more sophisticated European than those crude racist Americans. But I wonder if they’ll have Louis admits at one point that he’s choosing to blind himself to all this and his portrayal of Lestat is erring on the apologist side this time around. Idle musing: major powers keep showing up unexpectedly…. Do we know for sure the events of Queen of the Damned *haven’t* already played out in the 1980s or 1990s when Louis is doing this new interview in 2020? That would sure explain a few things.

[@roseclarity1493]

If the events of Merrick have happened and we're in real time with the same Louis that was in blood communion right now it would make alot if sense.

[@JoelSharpton]

I think it’s VERY possible the QotD has already happened, but I get the sense that this is all building up to that. Louis (and whoever owns the house he’s in) know that Lestat has or is about to awaken Akasha and shit is about to REAL for humanity.

[@dominicaudy8479]

@@JoelSharpton Not a bad idea at all, the interview framing device could end while the present day is in the middle of QOTD, with Louis pointing out at some point that Daniel seems to have missed Lestat’s rock star career. I have a feeling that season 2 will mix the second half of Louis’s interview, about the trip to Europe, with another narrative covering the story of Lestat from TVL. That way Louis will always remain present. I’ve no idea how they will “frame” Lestat’s story, but maybe he could simply address the viewers.

[@gilsurf8]

I find the “memory’ sub plot intriguing and fascinating .

[@tvaddict6623]

Also- as vampires, Lestat think that they are above these mortal concerns, which could be another reason he comes across that way regarding the race issue.

[@JoelSharpton]

The biggest question is exactly how many books stories HAVE taken place. As viewers, we don’t know. Louis is telling his tale slowly “letting it seduce us” and therefore isn’t giving many hints. I think Rashid and the house itself are two of the biggest. Things like Louis’ advanced power is another. This interview is either directly in the lead up to QotD (when Louis has already either gotten an infusion from Lestat in a pitch to join him/Akasha), or POST QotD and maybe even TotBT and Memnoch as those books were included in Rolin Jones “this interview is happening now” comment. My guess is Akasha is still coming, but it’s JUST about to happen in the modern day storyline, meaning this interview is meant to prepare humans against her.

[@leopagefiore]

I have a crackpot theory regarding Louis’s different characterization and enhanced powers in the modern era compared to the books. We’re assuming that the events of the later books haven't happened yet. I’m wondering if maybe in this timeline, everything involving Akasha, the body thief, Memnoch, etc. have already happened. Maybe this second interview is a precursor to a brand-new story arc involving the mass vampire “conversion” Louis mentioned in the previous episode. Maybe the whole TV series is just several season-long flashbacks to the events of the books, all leading up to this foreshadowed original "conversion" story arc in the climactic final season. Kind of like how the first seven seasons of Game of Thrones led up to the (anticlimactic) battle with the White Walkers in Season 8.

[@jessekedar]

That would be clever. Using the "interview" as a way to retell the stories as events that have already happened, hence why Louis is more jaded in the modern era

[@freddyjafar1490]

@@jessekedar I dig that

[@ndestructible1659]

Lestat is stealing the show for me, I'm enthralled at the actor's performance.

[@JoelSharpton]

Give us TVL spin-off NOW!!!!!!!! Seriously, why wait. He’s not going to be in Season two almost at all, and I can’t go a whole year or two without Sam Reid’s Lestat.

[@cannonbulldogs]

He really is amazing. The only enjoyable part of the show

[@JudyFrankenbutt]

I think the thing that baffles me about your review/critique of episode 2 is, like... how can an issue be "hand waved" if the next episode actually addresses that issue? Like, that's not hand waving as far as I'm concerned? That's foreshadowing.

[@Kikakowia]

I think it’s clear that Louis’ struggle with vampirism here is more internal than in the books. He may have times where he ACTS like a vampire, but he hasn’t _accepted_ it. He’s struggling with it. It’s just an internal, emotional struggle instead of an external refusal.

[@TurAva]

The last thing Louis said to Lestat before the next scene "That's why you and me ain't ever going to work. That's why you're always going to be alone." And the look on Lestat's face when he said that just broke my heart ❤💔💔🥺🥺😣😣

[@GirlGamer190]

I actually don't mind the back and forth of Louie's character because Louie himself does not know what he wants in the book in the movie and in the show, he always thought that vampirism was going to solve all his problems, that he would be free of whatever problem he was burdened with but in reality it didn't solve anything it even amplified it. So this distressed is back and forth I think it fits perfect with his character.

[@Darkschool6]

I want Miss Lily back! I like Miss Lily!

[@MavenoftheEventide]

Me too! I absolutely loved that actor. She did such an amazing job.

[@Darkschool6]

@@MavenoftheEventide Lestat just had to kill her in a fit of jealousy. The made a nice threesome.

[@rosalinasnow7529]

you are my lifeline rn. my mother raised me with a deep love of Anne Rice and I've read and seen everything but I'm in a financial crisis rn and can't afford AMC+ so you are litterally saving me from pulling my eyeballs out of my face in frustration. thank you.

[@StrawberryShorty]

Also currently in a financial crisis! The episodes do air on normal TV, though.

[@tdali8347]

Thank you, Maven. Going on 40 years together, I had to tell my white husband recently that I notice when waitstaff call him "sir" and don't call me anything. You know, like, "What will you have, sir?" "And you?" Husband was shocked. As Token said on South Park's n-word episode, "You don't understand because you can't." Louis could easily say that to Lestat, and still love him. p.s. These vampires not only drink for nothing. They smoke for nothing. Ha!

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

I seem to recall hearing something about lighting a cigarette with another cigarette having been a euphemism, once upon a time, which is what my mind immediately interpreted that one time they smoked together privately as possibly having been a reference to. But that may or may-not just be me and my brain, idk.

[@tdali8347]

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 Lol I never thought of the whole "touching the tips together" thing! But in the second episode, Louis also smoked alone at the opera house bar while Lestat was luring the tenor to his doom.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@tdali8347 I don't even know why I did either, except that it almost came off to me almost like an awkward ice-breaking / kiss-and-makeup type of gesture? Lol (Like..they were kinda feeling each other out a little, and testing whether or not they were still cool with each other?? Maybe?) And..While Louis does a lot of pointlessly human things though, in general. 😅 (But I didn't remember Louis doing so in the opera house, except when at least the tenor was there, prior to getting the vocal cords severed for his troubles?🤔 But, admittedly, Lestat's shenanigans were kind of distracting to me that whole scene .. so maybe I just missed it, or maybe I just excused it too easily because it was initially a public out-ing? ^^ Perhaps I should take this as a cue to rewatch the episodes again 🤣)

[@doityourselfa]

I have to disagree with what you said about the writers making lestat a ‘good white person’ and them delving into the white saviour trope. Lestat to me seems very well intentioned but incredibly ignorant, and this is demonstrated in so much of the show so far. Their convo in episode 2 at the incinerator shows that Louis and lestat have had this conversation about racism and how America is, and how lestat still doesn’t get it (hence his ignorance). But right after in the coffin he also says that if the man had shown Louis disrespect he would’ve dealt with it himself. Lestat genuinely cares and respects Louis and the struggle he’s facing, but that line also shows how he cannot grasp the disrespect that HAS been done to Louis. He cannot put himself that deep into Louis’ shoes as a white person. Another scene in episode 2 where this conflict between race plays out is the concert part. In lestat’s eyes he’s showing Louis a piece of himself, his love for muisc. He is so genuinely delighted to do this (hence his absolute rage when the tenor fucks up; I think it wasn’t just the fact that he sang bad, but he sang badly on this date with Louis, who he was sharing a piece of his soul with). But, again! What he doesn’t realise is that to see the concert Louis needs to demean himself and be the employee. They cease to be equals because of the racist custom of the time, and lestat plays into it. Sure, he (lestat) knows that racism bad, but that doesn’t stop him from being complicit in it, which I think is a very good thing they did. Also, I think they dodged the white saviour complex thing pretty well (or as well as they can when lestat is Louis’ inciting incident into vampirism. like the scene in episode 3 when the racist guys were like ‘make lestat the face of the operation’ and lestat firmly says that it’s Louis’ hobby not his. Not only is it cementing that no, lestat is not going to interfere and take that away from Louis, from a character point it shows that lestat thinks of Louis whole situation as just a hobby, just a human attachment and not something he, a black man, gets to actively wield power over. It’s again that disjoint in their relationship that’s so toxic but so fascinating to watch. idk I think the way they’re handling the interracial part of the relationship so far is quite good. Whoops this got long haha

[@angelacanedit]

I totally agree with you! i don't think lestat is coming off as a "perfect ally" at all, more like a well intentioned but flawed ally. I saw someone describe him as an "ignorant liberal" and I think that's very accurate

[@Kevonsly]

YES, yes, all of that. She (the poster) is kind of synical a lot of the time and I'm like, side eye. lol

[@ridge7524]

Great explanation💯

[@Sasha0406]

I 💯 agree with your take on this.

[@oyami4444]

In the book Louis feeds on Claudia. But here - he is also responsible for her near-death. Even more then in the book - cause there is no plague. There is only riot that occured because of Louis. MORE guilt on him.

[@Nerdicaful]

A small thing that got a chuckle out of me in episode 3 was, in reference to the book they were talking about in the beginning, Louis mutters, "Got it off *your* bookshelf...." It's the little things that keep me going, snide comments couples make to each other about their tastes in literature.

[@Nerdicaful]

43:56 On the topic of Lestat vs Louis' opinions on the nature of humanity: I wish they would have discussed (textually) systematic oppression and racism more in that very scene. Because Lestat is using the race riots as a way to argue, "See? *All* humans have the capacity to be evil when they think they can get away with it." It's about the same as saying, "I'm not racist, I hate everyone!" or "ALL lives matter," or something along those lines. I don't think he's necessarily wrong, but he's also not accounting for (or aware of) the systematic problems that caused the race riots (and black people doing "evil" things) to happen in the first place. When Louis murders the white guy and puts his body on display in a very morbid, political message, it validates the feelings of his oppressed black brethren, which causes them to rise up in unison and respond. Had their oppression not been in place to begin with, it wouldn't have happened. They rioted in response to their oppression and not because they are "evil" like Lestat argues. Louis could have said as much as I have, heck, Louis could spend more time CALLING LESTAT OUT ON HIS WHITE PRIVILEDGE but he hasn't and so far, for a show that wanted to explore race with a vampiric spin, I haven't seen that a lot. You'd think they would have went harder with the race allegory, especially with this being set in the early 1900s.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

All my thoughts exactly! They keep setting things up with great potential and then just letting them go unexamined!

[@tanukioh]

I've got a theory regarding Louis' powers and the timeline. I suspect that the powers and Louis' changed perception of Lestat are due to the events of Queen of the damned already occurring in the timeline, with Lestat possibly "going to sleep" after Claudia tries to murder him and waking up sometime between the 80s and now. That may actually be the event in episode one he referred to that reduced the number of vampires to their current state.

[@tanukioh]

Lestat and Louis may even actively be in a relationship in the present, prompting him to redo the interview and reframe Lestat in a better light. This could also be why he denies any negative reading of Lestat's motives; and the show may be saying Daniel has the more right opinion if that is the case

[@coribug42]

Yep, I was like, "Louis def had a pint of Lestat recently."

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@tanukioh He has, at the very least, perhaps begun to miss or long for the good-parts...to the point of feeling as if the bad-times or bad-things were maybe not quite so outweighingly bad as he had thought they had seemed to him back when it was first happening, or maybe he just regrets perhaps even *_exaggerating_* the bad to seem originally [legit ]even WORSE than he thinks it actually or possibly was, so now he's just overcorrecting and kind of downplaying or underexaggerating just how _BAD_ those bad times or bad other-things literally were .. because, somehow, those bad times don't totally diminish or eradicate his feelings for Lestat. Especially not now, with time and distance, and/or different circumstance(s). ((Like, yes, Lestat is both monstrous and beautiful; but, god help him, somehow he still loves Lestat for all of the beautiful and in spite of the more monstrous.)) Like, in essence, Louis wants Daniel to try and understand what Louis sees/saw in Lestat.. in spite of every reason there is to have not seen anything good in Lestat at all .. or, perhaps, maybe he just wants Daniel to not judge _Louis_ too harshly for not having seen or focused on the bad even-more/even-sooner than Louis did. Or something like that. I think. ^^

[@toki7111]

As someone who only ever watched the movie and have not read the books, the tv series is really good so far

[@ridgemom4092]

I would love to see Gabrielle. She was always my favorite. I know she's not in interview... Just want to put that energy out there. 💖💖

[@krpyton7368]

She is in book 2 or 3 ?

[@sugarstore69]

I feel like I hear constant sarcasm in your voice as you are reviewing the show! We know that they changed a ton of stuff. But it’s okay! I love it

[@FransHattingh]

The only thing I look forward to as much as new episodes of _Interview with the Vampire_ is your commentary. 💜

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

I actually think that Louis keeps flaunting his vampire-ness in 2022 specifically because he's trying to intentionally unsettle and/or terrify Daniel. But maybe that's just me 😅😁

[@ML-di8lt]

But... Lestat first drank Akasha's blood in The Vampire Lestat though. So he's had a bit of ancient blood for a while.

[@terrytaylor1732]

And he was turned by an old and powerful vampire.

[@Aluradevries]

I honestly don’t think that the part of episode 3 is to say that Lestat Is genuine. I took it as the show wanting to hint that Louis may not be a reliable narrator.

[@josephgrace5955]

Letting a vampire eat and have sex takes away from the suffering of our sweet ‘Merciful Death’ and his self loathing. No food, sex or drug could bring him pleasure. Only killing. It only strengthened his conviction that he was a monster and alienated him.

[@sebastianemond5313]

"🙄😏Oh, Merciful Death... How you love your precious guilt."

[@broadwaylifealways4]

If we go back to the Behind the Scenes episode of IWTV, Rolin said that maybe this interview is after al the events of at least half the books. Meaning Queen of the Damned probably already happened. Armand and Daniel probably had a thing and Daniel is now hiding it. That's my theory. I think all of TVL and QotD already happened at least and now Louis wants to tell a long long interview that will take us into seasons 2,3,4,5,etc if we're getting 2 seasons per book like they say. So this is probably why Louis has all these powers.

[@Busha69]

It would only make sense, if Louis had those powers in the present day but not right from the beginning, which he somehow does.

[@nancimarina3139]

I’m actually assuming present day occurs after the events of Queen of the Damned, explaining the fire 🔥 power. Also, I think in the books they imply that Louis loses some of his humanity after receiving the power up from the ancient blood. This could explain why Louis is more accepting of his powers and vampirism in present day.

[@cheriacole7114]

Thank you. I was actually just thinking this. That it's not the first interview and he met Akasha in 1985 and they mentioned the pandemic so this interview is definitely present day. It's after all of the books have taken place I believe. We are in new territory maybe.

[@nancimarina3139]

@@cheriacole7114 exactly!

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

Personally, I actually thought we *did* see enough of Lestat's reaction to understand that he was deeply hurt by Louis implying[ either inadvertently or intentionally] that Lestat was not apparently counted amongst those 'things Louis cares about', I thought it looked like Louis may as well have slapped him in the face. Especially combined with how not just calm but deeply quiet and reserved and almost-/awkward/hesitant Lestat was, in the next scene; and how notably distant they both were, from each other... rather than gravitating towards each other like magnets, or sticking together like glue, as they usually do.😅😅 😊🙂 But maybe that was just me. ^ ^

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I meant the camera doesn't show us his reaction in that scene. It cuts straight from Louis's face, saying the Azalea is the last thing he cares about, to the next scene. It doesn't cut back to Lestat's face to show us how he responded in the moment.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@MavenoftheEventide Ah-Fair enough! For some reason I thought Lestat was visible somewhat during that,🤔 but maybe it was just his demeanor in the next scene[ &/or just the fact that other scenes gave us pretty much all the information necessary to surmise that was probably like a metaphorical sucker punch to him] that my brain decided had told me enough of what I wanted to know. 😅 (I don't know!) Lol

[@andreabrantley6951]

;💭(from the TV series.) *Lestat did force Louis into the relationship!... He stalked Louis before they met, would be at all of Louis's regular hang-outs before he got there, he did mind tricks(Telepathy, Seduction, Brainwashing, Love-bombing.) on Louis from the jump!... But after the 3-way Lestat set up, (he had Ms. Lily there to get Louis in his house.) Louis decided he wasn't going back to his house. ~ So, Lestat went crazy and mentally stalked Louis, offed people who were close to him, then busted in the church and made Louis be with him!(under duress!)

[@m0rlana]

Louis was also drunk.

[@andreabrantley6951]

@@m0rlana 📍Yes he was!.., He was drinking a lot because he was grieving his brother's death, and Lestat was using all kind of vampire mind control and telepathy powers he had on Louis(because he was tired of waiting for him to come back.) and his moms words hurt him. /😏You see the next morning he was like... I'll see you, I got to go home.

[@nicholasbella7459]

The show doesn't downplay the racial issues, it acknowledges it, but doesn't oversaturate the audience with it. The story stays moving. It's really well done IMO. I was surprised to see him have the fire gift, but I figure this second interview could be taking place after Merrick where Louis does get that boost and him and Lestat's relationship takes another turn. I was shocked that their genitals are working. So, since it's established, I hope to see Lestat and Louis in bed at some point. I do agree with a lot of your points, especially on E2. Like that scene where Louis bites the human. I was expecting to see rapture. As for the power that Lestat has...remember, by the time he met Louis, he'd already been made by Magnus who was powerful, fed from Marius, who was powerful, and he'd fed off Alaska. That is why Lestat was able to survive the attack, where weaker vampires would have died. I have loved every episode this far.

[@angelacanedit]

i'm so excited for claudia to be introduced next week! i didn't like two as much either lol. but i'm glad episode three is just as good as one.

[@Banyo__]

Lestat is a frustration because he constantly impresses upon Louis that there is only one way to live and survive as a vampire---his way. Especially frustrating as that new dynamic of race is introduced in a very blunt way. You have a black man struggling to gain a foothold in a society who sees him as nothing and another who can just seamlessly move through with certain privileges, among them, wealth and skin color. At times it feels like Lestat just makes a joke of Louis wanting to prosper even with enormous challenges. Imagine being in a relationship where the other person just never really felt as if you could succeed and just seemingly waits for you to fail in human interactions, in business, as a vampire, so he can once again swoop in and tell you, how wrong you were and how right he is. It's either that or just Lestat wanting to swiftly move on to the next thing. As that black gay vampire, Louis probably feels that there is no moving on. Everything will repeat in this time period. Move on to another state, another country, he'll still have to hold on to Lestat's coat tails and pretend to be his inferior because that's the part of society that Lestat can't understand and in some ways chooses to ignore and others, to relish in having that power even as he might claim he is a slave to the love he has for Louis. Lestat claims to have given Louis freedom, but he is just as chained as he was before the transformation.

[@nunyabizznis2198]

For me with the trashing and burning of the original 73 interview tapes was the show runners of this series metaphorically and literally burying Anne's original story and characters right in front of the audience's face. I wonder how Anne would have felt about that scene if she had been around to see it.

[@JaviTruloveSims]

I felt exactly the same.

[@nunyabizznis2198]

@@JaviTruloveSims glad I'm not the only one who caught that.

[@hinasakukimi]

i view it kind of like the scene in the last jedi where they burn the jedi library. it's not shitting on the original movies, it's saying "hey, things change and that's okay". that's how i read it personally.

[@JaviTruloveSims]

@@hinasakukimi I get it, however i read it as "The Excuse" for deviating from the source material. The reason why Louis is giving all this brand new fabricated information that wasn't there in the 70's. Babbette? Lestat Father? Louis almost killing Claudia? that actually never happened, i remember it now how it was. And at the same time saying "we are going to deviate from the story even more, that's why the original tapes (Anne Original Material) must go"

[@hinasakukimi]

@@JaviTruloveSims i don't see that as an "excuse" so much as that's just... the plot. yeah it's going to deviate, but not necessarily because louis now remembers it how it was. there was literally a moment in this episode where he couldn't accurately recall whether it was raining or not.

[@janekarector3268]

I disagree that the show is is showing Lestat as above race. If anything, it shows how the concept of ‘color blindness’ further distances Louis from Lestat. It’s why Lestat is so threatened by Jonah: Louis not only has a past with Jonah, Jonah can understand Louis’ world in a way that Lestat never will. Lestat thinks that being a vampire frees Louis if these bonds and he doesn’t take Louis’ experience seriously. I would like to encourage you to seek out critics of color who are watching this show because besides queerness, the dynamics and power play within an interracial couple are not subtle at all. Lastly, the show runner and the actors have discuss that this is a part of why they wanted to explore Louis as a Black Creole man.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I agree completely! It’s definitely not SHOWING us Lestat is above race with all his unwitting microagressions. But then it has Daniel comment on their power imbalance and other things just like the audience might, only for Louis to keep telling Daniel he’s wrong and then Daniel ACCEPTING he’s wrong, and them moving on from that as if saying these things don’t need to be discussed or unpacked any further. Seems smug on the show’s part, like “there, see? We acknowledged it, but Louis says it’s not true/important, and this time the very premise of his interview is that he’s no longer unreliable, so you should believe what he says and not let these things bother you.”

[@goodghostly7531]

@@MavenoftheEventide I think you're missing how unreliable the narration here is. Daniel has referenced it multiple times by now and I think it's supposed to be a key to how we're supposed to engage with the narration. Louis is not a completely objective POV and I don't think they are correcting those wrong assumptions here because it's not time to, that'll come. I think we should be seeing Daniel as our stand in making some of the remarks we might have of someone telling us this story, critical and skeptical.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

@goodghostly But this time when Daniel referenced it, Louis convinced him that "the very premise of their interview" this time is that he IS reliable. And Daniel accepted this and believed him enough to throw out the tapes and delete the files. Of course, we as the audience aren't convinced of it because of how the show keeps contradicting itself. Daniel is there to be the voice of the audience who rightly would question these things, and then the show has Daniel BELIEVE Louis, and let the questions go one after the next. Because they want the audience to believe those questions aren't important at to instead focus on different things. Louis and Daniel agree the minute details don't matter (the wolverine blues, the rain (which was completely irrelevant because Louis already DID know that Lestat's shoes got muddy from spying on him)), and that what MATTERS is that this time, Louis is telling the truth about how he feels about Lestat: that he was not abused, that Lestat did not prey on his racial issues to manipulate him into being a vampire, but instead only acted out of love and connection, that they were equals and did not have a power imbalance. This time, about Lestat, we're supposed to believe Louis is reliable. Because the show actually thinks it's showing Lestat as not emotionally abusive. It's just not working for me. When you listen to the showrunners talk about the characters in all their interviews and panels, they want SO MUCH for this show to really be romantic (darkly romantic about monsters, but their love is real). They really saw the church turning scene as completely romantic, and that Louis was feeling loved and seen, and not at all that Lestat was using his inequality to manipulate and emotionally abuse Louis into becoming a vampire. The reason it's just not working is because it CAN'T not have those issues be part of it, we keep seeing Lestat's racist microaggressions, because it's impossible for such things not to exist in this kind of relationship. But then Louis keeps telling Daniel that those things don't matter, so the show can get away with doing the bare possible minimum of acknowledging it, debunking it, and then focusing the story on the racism in Louis's outward life instead of in his marriage.

[@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah]

"YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN OF EPISODE 2?!" - I'm loving the emphasis

[@eugeniusmorflam7278]

well you've earned another subscriber I pretty much know this intro was probably not to be narcissistic but a reply to my last comment thank you I really enjoyed your book analysis and I really do enjoy the reviews I just was not sure if there was a love of what they've changed or just an honest critique of the changes in the show but thank you for all the hard work and I am now fully subscribe and enjoying your Channel

[@kenschell6542]

I feel like Daniel is lying about his sexuality.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

I think the fact that Louis started listening to his lover from his younger days' heartbeat before this happened, and then drank blood during, it's still entirely possible it was actually all about the blood for Louis. Also, is it just me, or can you actually hear (Lestat) breathing in the background? I remember asking if Lestat was watching, long before seeing the muddy boots.😅 👀

[@annabeinglazy5580]

Regarding Antoinette.... I wouldnt regard that as straight washing and more as an attempt to make the bisexuality of Lestats character more explicit. The accusation of "straightwashing" when He is openly in a relationship with Louis is a bit weird to me. Making one character bi by having them Date Guy > then Gal > then Guy is a Bit lazy to me ( i mean... I dont make a neat little chart in my head to Work Out which gender/gender Expression i should Date next, but somehow Show Runners do that), but i appreciate that it's Made explicit. At least there is a Male bi character who does Not give a damn, Theres so few of them already

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I am so happy to see male bi rep on TV that’s actually SHOWN (not just referenced by someone mentioning a past relationship). Lestat’s not the one straightwashed (lol can you imagine??) but erasing a canon m/m relationship (and gay male character) to replace with a m/f one is troubling unless they give him yet another m/m relationship later, which is what I’m hoping for. 🤞

[@leticiamv]

I think the change from a man resembling Louis to a white woman is to make Louis even more fragile, a white woman would be more socially acceptable to Lestat than a black man next to her, it's all a big riot to leave Louis even more destroyed, I wasn't in favor of gender change either, but that was an interesting proposition.

[@freddyjafar1490]

@@leticiamv In spite of this, Lestat would NEVER leave Louis for Antoinette. It was a fling. His heart is with Louis and that's why he was incensed to know that Louis was frolicking with Jonah and it wasn't only sexual but there was likely an emotional component to it. Louis is actually kinda mean here if you think about it because we the audience can tell that Lestat is enamored with Louis so everything Louis does is magnified. I don't think Louis is affected by Lestat. More so the idea of him and he's still ashamed of both his sexuality and his vampirism.

[@leticiamv]

@@freddyjafar1490 Yes I know he would never trade for Antoinette, but it makes Louis feel worthless.

[@leticiamv]

@@MavenoftheEventide yes, I agree...

[@edwonghaupepelu]

Hi! New subscriber here, I have been loving this series so far. Back when I was a teen, it used to annoy me when the movies didn't follow a book to the T. Now I actually prefer when they don't follow the same plot. I felt like the series has the essence of the vampire Chronicles, but I can enjoy it as something new, with new nice surprises. But I really appreciate your videos, as I don't know anyone personally to discuss this changes.

[@StrawberryShorty]

If you'd like a place to talk relatively freely about the show, check out my recaps and reviews: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX25qnmEicmVbcU I'd love to get some discussion going in the comments on my videos. They're not as long or in-depth as these ones, as they're more just my thoughts as I go through the episode.

[@Kiwi-in1ib]

"To put out himself" I laughed so hard at this point. Thank you for these I really enjoy reliving the episodes with your breakdowns!

[@zachbrehany2253]

If this does end up being the best of all the episodes then I'll be happy. For me, this episode is everything I love about this series and how I feel about it as an adaptation: while there are changes in this adaptation, it flows wonderfully with the original text that has been a staple in my life sense 2008. I am having more and more hope for more episodes like this: great character moments (Lestat killed me multiple times while watching this), the emotions Rice had, and a story that has me wanting more. Hopefully Claudia proves just as great. THEORY/ MAYBE SPOILER BELOW: So, if the theory of Rashid being a certain sewer gremlin comes true, than so many slash fics and Armand/ Louis OTPs are going to get launched and I find it funny as Armand is (maybe) still a total sub. XD Then again, for Jacob Anderson, I feel that.

[@klowwwww]

I think of Lestat as a sofa bed. Whether a sofa bed is used as a sofa or a bed, used as a sofa 10 times and a bed only once, it will always be a sofa bed. Just because Lestat is with Antoinette, a female version of Antoine, doesn't make him straightwashed. If anything it just reinforces how he's a sofa bed (bisexual or as he puts it, non-discriminating). Lestat falling into the trope of being in love with only one man also seems to be null. In ep 1, it's strongly implied he had romantic feelings for the "boy of infinite beauty" that he composed that music box melody for. So that's already 2 dudes.

[@roseclarity1493]

He also quotes Nicolas de Lenfant at the table with Lily "only the impossible can do the impossible" is something Niki said to him when they first met. Nicolas remains present in his mind. It's one of the reasons he's so controlling with Louis out of fear that things will go bad like they did with Nicolas.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

Did KZbin eat my reply to your comment?? It disappeared for me. It was long, and rewrite it later when I get home, but absolutely no one would consider this Lestat straightwashed. Definitely not the issue here!

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I think homophobic KZbin ate my reply because I used the word q*eer 🙄 ANYWAY let's try this again Lestat is bi, always has been, always will be (no matter what the QOTD movie tried to pull). This is not up for debate. Lestat is in no way shape or form straightwashed. The thing that the show is "straightwashing" is the m/m Antoine/Lestat *relationship* from the book (Obviously Lestat is not straight so, any relationship he's in is automatically not straight, which is why I put it in air quotes, but you get what I mean). TV has a habit of being fine with showing plenty of bi female rep, but it's rare to see it with male characters. I want to see them show Lestat in another m/m situation besides Louis because I think it's important to be shown on screen instead of just using the trope of referencing a past lover. Since they erased that chance with Antoine, I hope they do it with a different character instead. They could have done it with the opera singer (have Lestat kissing on him and getting frisky like he did with the sex workers in the book/movie), but they didn't do it there either. We'll just have to wait and see if they're bold enough to do it in future episodes, or if they'll do the problematic "it's okay if it's only one man" trope by having Louis being the only man we ever get to see him with on screen.

[@anrysse]

@@MavenoftheEventide Perfectly summed up how I felt

[@FAYZER0]

@@MavenoftheEventide Personally, I wasn't so concerned the character of Lestat was being straightwashed so much as I was afraid AMC was frontloading all the male/male horny stuff and then going "okay okay, quota filled, time to stop making mainstream audiences uncomfortable."

[@jonathanelewis9134]

Was anyone else a bit concerned when Louie told Lestat that "Jonah was 16 and I was...older"? PS you and your channel are such good company to keep.

[@m3rrys0ngstr3ss]

I was! I did NOT like that!

[@andreabrantley6951]

💭; I think they were lax on the age thing back then... (are yall just looking for anything to hate on?)

[@jonathanelewis9134]

@@andreabrantley6951 ,no. I'm not looking for ANYTHING to hate on. I'm rreally enjoying the series. That one line,plus the look on Louie's face, combined with the good acting got my attention. I think the li e delivery was meant to be noticed.

[@andreabrantley6951]

@@jonathanelewis9134 - I like the series too... It's just crazy that people are mad because Louis is brown, and that they remade the show!... They remake movies all the time!

[@jonathanelewis9134]

@@andreabrantley6951 ,I see. I'm so looking forward to next season.

[@AlextheHistorian]

I really love watching your breakdowns of this show. As a Chronicles fan, I am so glad this show is happening, and like many here would say, changes aren't necessarily a bad thing. But I have had difficulty analyzing how these changes have altered the dynamic of the vampires and also the character development. So after watching an episode, I tune-in here to get your breakdown so I can consider it all from another angle and kind of absorb what the show is telling us. Some of the changes of Anne Rice's vampire lore have me puzzled, as it does for you. I am really hoping one of the later episodes will really tie it all back together and explain it well, even the parts or topics they kind of steam-rolled over to advance the plot. Thanks!

[@orangeprincess1987]

This was a good episode! I like your recap breakdown!

[@randomgeekcrap]

Just saw ep 4 it was so good

[@throughtheotherside420]

Hell yeah I loved episode 4! 🖤

[@JustGrowingUp84]

2:08 "I honestly just wish they had let the show be more of its own thing" - this, exactly this! The show is already fan fiction - at least make it more original! And you see this with a lot of new shows - the producers seem afraid of new, original IPs, so they take old ones and twist them to fit the story they want to tell, but in the process they often alienate the fans of the originals. Sometimes they get it right - I loved the new "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", even though it's a show made for young girls and I'm a dude (and 35 years old when I watched it) - and it has almost nothing to do with the original. THAT is the way to go, don't let the original drag you down, if you already made so many changes to it.

[@charleskeracher5872]

I have accepted all the changes the show has made from the book. That said season 2 better have Lestat as an arena rock star!

[@oyami4444]

I'm not sure they "streightwashed" Daniel... I guess he still needs to go through some changes as one of the main characters. And what could that be?... Antuanette as a female is a good choice - makes it even more toxic for Louis to comprehend

[@conrad4852]

I am so loving watching & learning from your reviews!

[@gilsurf8]

This is my favorite episode so far. And I think it’s partly because this episode is fully standing on its on own backbone rather than relying on the novels.

[@Morbos1000]

I haven't read the books (sorry!) so the lore changes don't bother me as much, but I really hate the way they want to explore Louis adjusting to being a new vampire and his connection to humanity... but fast forwarded the story seven years (or maybe more?) leaving the audience to wonder just what the hell he's been doing all this time instead of grappling with these issues that should have cropped up in the first few months. For example, the thing where Louis reads minds to find an ideal prey because Lestat is pressuring him to eat people, then does a fakeout and eats a cat. It just doesn't make sense for this to be happening so many years into it.

[@rammies_world97]

The Audio book is hear on KZbin.. if u cant get the book to read...u can use a week to finish all

[@StrawberryShorty]

I hate how they time skip and don't make it clear. Like, at least have Louis narrate about the time that's passed and what he did.

[@thekage100]

I LOVE that you are critical and still like the show!! Have missed ur reviewing of shows!!!

[@nebulous8389]

That's how I feel. But I still dig the show and cant wait to see Claudia!

[@thekage100]

@@nebulous8389 Yeeees love the show and yeah! lets go BestGirl!

[@nebulous8389]

@@thekage100 I absolutely loved the piano playing scene in the beginning. Showing the boldness and charm Lestat had. He had the crowd against him and then made a 180 with his charm and piano playing immediately. Shows how good of actor Sam Reid is!

[@thekage100]

@@nebulous8389 it fits sooo well with the charm of a vampire!

[@lindaq2362]

Lestat and Louis are in a toxic relationship but it works for them. But the underlying thing is they don't really communicate well they don't talk . The main thing is the vampire nature of the relationship and how Lewis push and pull with accepting himself as an vampire then not. That is very confusing for Lestat. The push and pull of this acceptance is what confuses and frustrates lestat.

[@chelseasherrell6277]

I will admit, I did not like the timeline switch just bc it has the possibility to mess up a lot of other timelines throughout the entire series - but so far they've made a pretty good adaption and as long as the writers have come up with a way to handle future storylines relating to the time changes I think it'll be okay. or at least I hope it will. I've been watching it on fmovies, and I have to say the comments on that site are savage, mostly going on about race swapping and wokeism nonsense, and a whole mess of people citing the book and commenting over and over how ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, ESPECIALLY LOUIS AND LESTAT ARE GAY IN THE BOOK.....clearly those individuals have never even picked up a copy of the book lol. so far I have enjoyed it, especially Louis' use of modern language, "he chose that night to dabble in fuckery" lmao loved it. I don't mind Claudia and Louis being black, I think it ties in even better with the time period they're rolling with and would have been great to see Louis elaborate on that to Daniel - they totally should have seized that moment. but like many others have stated, making Claudia a teenager instead of a little kid is gonna make for other storyline clashes later on. the easiest way to mitigate that would have been to make her like 10-13, instead of a 5 year old or a 15 year old, I think. but I didn't write the adaption (even though I would have loved to have been a writer on the show, oh be still my fluttering heart), so full steam ahead to see how they handle the "forbidden to make one so young" situation later on. I also am not on board with how the show is doing the "only kill evildoers" thing, totally missed the bullseye with that one. but I do appreciate the gender bending of Antoinette, simply bc as Maven said, there are very few female characters in the VC universe and while this doesn't completely make up for it, it does help the audience who have never read a single line from the books see Lestat's bisexualness. i think it throws some contrast in as well, not just straight washing, but for viewers who have read the series and know how Louis and Lestat feel and think it lets them glimpse the potential differences of both relationships in those days....if the show keeps up with them both having different lovers i mean. however, I did think it was funny how the show made Lestat jealous of Louis being with another man seriously Sam Reid made me LOL bc oh the drama. it was so cute. def my fave episode so far. I am very interested to see how the series progresses and if the events of the other books in the original trilogy have already played out. I'm kinda hoping they haven't bc that would in a way take away a lot of content they could use on the show, unless they're planning a lot of flashbacks on top of flashbacks, which would not be horrible.

[@davon1650]

Loved your intro to this episode and wanting the show to be internally consistent and true to itself. On the racial dynamics, relationships will differ, of course. I'm in a gay Black-White marriage and the scene in the square definitely felt familiar in that racial issues must come up but couples will handle them differently depending on their tolerance for conflict. Personally, I want peace in my relationship and part of doing that is knowing when to let some things drop/slide. If you're battling outside, you don't want to come home to a battle, too. That said, I know interracial couples where they do the full-on, drag-out thing regularly and good on them, lol

[@MavenoftheEventide]

Yes! What I wanted was more stuff like the scene in the square and the fight they have after Louis kills the lawyer. That's the good stuff! And less of Daniel saying "You were abused" only so Louis can tell the audience "No I wasn't" and for Daniel to be like "Okay, I accept that, let's trash the tapes"

[@andreabrantley6951]

😐; When Louis went home after his hook-up with Jonah, Lestat was looking very angry, like he was going to attack Louis right then... But he went to sleep and must've stewed about it all night because he was still riled-up the next day. (his whole face changed.) HE WENT FULL ON JOKER FROM THE DARK KNIGHT IN THAT SCENE!...😳

[@toshomni9478]

Louis de Pointe du Lac is one of my favorite literary characters of all time. He is tormented and conflicted and vacillates between committing terrible acts of violence and being crippled with guilt for those very same actions. The one major complaint I have about Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles is that this brilliant more-human-than-humans vampire character is completely sidelined for most of them This show has gotten certain aspects of his character correct but in changing him from being a slave owner who himself becomes a slave and then rebels to a brothel owner who is subject to racism and oppression they have confused his story in a way that they don't seem equipped to deal with. It also seems uncertain about what he is rebelling against since book Louis would probably love the kinder and gentler version of Lestat that they are giving us. I can't help but wonder if it won't be the same with Claudia now because she is much older than her character in the book or even the film so while they might get her characteristics right her reasons for them will be completely lacking and probably replaced with something not as compelling.

[@willynilly2545]

I really liked ths episode. I liked that they showed more of their relationship. I'd still like to see more intimacy between them though. Not necessarily sex, bu intimacy.

[@sinceremoose]

Hello! I've been enjoying your coverage of the series but I'm curious about your interpretation of Lestat as being portrayed as the bestest ally -- in my opinion, the show has shown from the beginning that Lestat is pretty garbage at race. Lestat takes an "I dont see color" approach to his interracial relationship which as we know is the best way to totally ignore all the bs that people of color are dealing with right next to you while claiming to uplift them. Similarly, Lestat uses every moment of distress and vulnerability to manipulate Louis. Baby munch --> opera love confession. Catholic freak out --> vampire conversion. Lestat is absolutely shown to be a manipulator with every narcissistic line he says (which is all of them). Louis says from the beginning that he doesn't exactly love Lestat but he is attracted to the power that Lestat can offer.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

He is definitely shown to be that way, you’re absolutely right! But when the show runners and writers and actors were talking about those scenes in interviews and panels, they were talking about them, as if they were supposed to be entirely, sincerely romantic and touching moments for the audience to read only as romantic and vulnerable. Not manipulation at all. It seems the writers didn’t even realize what they were writing when they put it in there 🙃 what I’m criticizing is the way they have been telling the audience it ‘should’ be seen behind the scenes and in their own meta commentary, versus the way it is actually coming across on the screen.

[@sinceremoose]

@@MavenoftheEventide oh, that's bonkers. I haven't watched any interviews and the only BTScene stuff I saw was the bits about set design. Thank you kindly for explaining your position

[@JoshMc420]

So cool you got to see episode 4 already

[@Missing0o0]

How were you able to see episodes 4 & 5(?) already? I've seen other KZbinrs mention they've seen them too. 🤔 Man, we've become so spoiled with binge watching that it's torture waiting for episodes to come out. 😮‍💨

[@MavenoftheEventide]

Journalists and critics were given the first 5 episodes about a month ago so that we could prepare our reviews ahead of time

[@Missing0o0]

@@MavenoftheEventide Ahh, ok, that makes sense. Looking forward to the rest of your reviews, learning a lot from them.

[@tdali8347]

"It's a lot. It's not perfect." I see what you did there lol..

[@angelinaduvallcameron]

I'm wondering if Lestat already looks for evil doers, but lied to Louis because he didn't want Louis to think he was right about his thoughts. He wants Louis to embrace his vampirism, and thought rightfully so that even if Louis tried looking for evil does, he still wouldn't do it. Lestat does have the book that gave Louis those thoughts in his Library. He also didn't kill Antionette, just dumped her. Unlike Lily. My thoughts about that was maybe Lily was telling the white men who were supposed to be his friends any ideas Louis was getting. She was double crossing Louis. I'm probably reading to much into it, but I could see that happening.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

I feel like Lestat killed Lily because..well....maybe he just got carried away, drained too much, not necessarily even fully intending to? Or maybe he just thought it would send Louis pounding his door down-so it was somehow worth it? Or..it was simply because he A.) resented her for kind of being a crutch which Louis kept turning to instead of turning to Lestat? &/or B.) was just _that_ dissatisfied with the fact that[ by no fault of her own] she was not, herself, Louis[...yet was, most likely, a constant reminder(to Lestat) OF Louis..and of how Louis wasn't there]. (I mean.... what does _Lestat_ consider an "evildoer", exactly, at that point in time anyhow?🤔) Maybe we'll learn more about it, from Lestat's perspective, after/if we get through IWTV and into TVL? ^^

[@smileys462]

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 May I totally jump into this conversation as I have no one to watch this show with and suggest Lestat was insanely jealous and wanted Luis for himself? Down with your theory there. Killing Lily could have furthered that goal of isolating Luis from all forms of comfort save Lestat himself? Personally, I find Lestat's motivation for anything to be very confusing in this show. While I hope for clarity in the future I feel this ambiguity really plays into the point of Luis being an unreliable narrator.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@smileys462 Absolutely-Of course, you may! 🙂 (What else are public discussions for, if not for the public to jump in if they are so inclined to? ^-^ Lol) Honestly, I think it could possibly even be some combination of All-of-the-above. Like, maybe it was BOTH because she was secretly betraying Louis' confidence by sharing things with his competitors that she shouldn't or something _AND_ because Lestat's crazy jealous so wants Louis all to himself entirely, and all. (Who knows!) Even if Louis isn't being intentionally unreliable during the interview with Daniel, Louis can't read Lestat's mind, so Louis can really only guess at why Lestat really did or didn't do or say anything; unless Lestat tells him why, and even then, Louis has technically no more way of knowing if what Lestat tells him is the truth or not than viewers do either. (Kinda like with that whole 'never drink the blood after your victim dies or it might suck you down into death right along with your victim' type thing, too. We don't know if Lestat really told him it would, or if Lestat didn't, in the books-but even if Lestat really did tell him that, doesn't guarantee that Lestat was telling him something that's 100% factually accurate, and pretty much the same kinda thing applies to everything in the tv series as well.) I'm a big supporter personally of never taking anything as 100% unshakeably irrefutable-truth, not even in fiction; I think things engage and entertain the intelligent and creative mindedness of people much better that way. Lol I think, sometimes, Lestat's motivations are intentionally confusing though. I think that he's often written specifically so that his motivations could be open to interpretation, for the suspense/mystery/drama/whatever-but also I think that he is a character who's written as being somebody likely to purposefully obscure his own motivations as a defensive mechanism[ or such] &/or just to mess with people or keep them guessing[/etc.] too!. Plus, his intentions could probably change on a dime based on a whim or on his mood and such, as well. 😅🙃🤷‍♀️👀🤭🤣

[@sb416]

I really enjoy your videos Maven keep up the good work!!!

[@9401maru]

I'll admit, this change about sex, as an asexual person, let me down really hard.

[@snowyhut5205]

Finally someone else who says it aloud! I was starting to feel very lonely in this respect.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I talked about that a lot in my video about the show's first trailer too.

[@snowyhut5205]

@@MavenoftheEventide oh? I have missed that one somehow, will go watch it 🙏

[@wizzy615]

I do agree that there are so few female vampires, but the need to "demonstrate his bisexuality" is frustrating to me (as someone who is bisexual). Verilybitchie talks about the struggles of bisexuality way better than I ever could, but yeah just the fact that Lestat can't have 2 male lovers back to back is annoying

[@tananario]

Female characters. Not just vampires.

[@michalgenesove1646]

I wonder if you've watched Midnight Mass? It has a really interesting look on vampires.

[@angelacanedit]

loved midnight mass soooo much ugh

[@michalgenesove1646]

@@angelacanedit I know RIGHT?!

[@toshomni9478]

Louis de Pointe du Lac is one of my favorite literary characters of all time. He is tormented and conflicted and vacillates between committing terrible acts of violence and being crippled with guilt for those very same actions. The one major complaint I have about Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles is that this brilliant more-human-than-humans vampire character is completely sidelined for most of them. This show has gotten certain aspects of his character correct but in changing him from being a slave owner who himself becomes a slave and then rebels to a brothel owner who is subject to racism and oppression they have confused his story in a way that they don't seem equipped to deal with. It also seems uncertain about what he is rebelling against since book Louis would probably love the kinder and gentler version of Lestat that they are giving us. I can't help but wonder if it won't be the same with Claudia now because she is much older than her character in the book or even the film so while they might get her characteristics right her reasons for them will be completely lacking and probably replaced with something not as compelling.

[@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319]

I am genuinely pleased that, overall, you're enjoying the show as a whole apart from the source material. As vampire lovers, I personally feel that we've been starved for quality content over the past three+ decades. We've had classics like Bram Stoker's Dracula and of course the original Interview with the Vampire. We've had thoughtful arthouse affairs like Only Lovers Left Alive and, arguably, Byzantium. We've had character studies like Let Me In. We've had shlocky fun ones like the Fright Night remake and the first three Underworld movies. We've had outright horror flicks like 30 Days of Night (and depending on your outlook) Jennifer's Body. And we've had big-budget action affairs like Blade and the recent Day Shift on Netflix. (By-the-way, I haven't seen you review Day Shift and I honestly believe you'd enjoy it's over-the-top vampire goodness if you haven't yet taken it in.) There have even been periodic anime of quality that we've been privy to such as Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust and The Last Vampire. But if one took in cinema as a whole, you could likely only scrape together 20 or so pieces of cinema that are relatively well received by the majority that are vampire-centric. 20 in the nearly 30 years since the original Interview burst onto the big screen. And that's a shame. We are a tragically underserved fanbase and in a sea of trash like The Invitation, Morbius and 2012's Dark Shadows, AMC's Interview is a show that, if we were to separate it from the source material, is a vampire project with a lot of love and thought behind it. The developers are actually TRYING. They may not always hit their marks...but the effort is there. There's nothing about this show's production that's slapdash from the set design to costuming to acting to scripting to gore to the sensuality of it all. Don't get me wrong, I COMPLETELY agree with everything you're saying about contradictory themes, pacing issues and internal lore inconsistencies. But all of that being said, I genuinely believe that if they were to have changed the character names and removed the Interview with the Vampire title; releasing it as a new IP, I think this could have been considered one of the best vampire stories we've been blessed with in quite a long time. Then again, I have yet to see episodes 4 & 5 so we'll see how things shake out. Still, I hope this does well enough for AMC to allow the show to continue. I'd at least like it to like long enough for them to at least finish their retelling of the first book so as to make a complete narrative.

[@jordanfogarty1329]

Lestat is my type

[@MrSandman_0981]

He's everybody's type lmao

[@sweetchild3485]

neither Daniel nor Lestat were "straight-washed", they are both bi in the books and I don't know why people theses days want to portray bi men as exclusively gay and cant' accept they can also into women.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I literally say in the video that Lestat is bi and it’s cool that we get to see him with a woman to portray that. However, the Lestat/Antoine RELATIONSHIP from the books is “”””straightwashed”””” by eliminating a canon bi male character and replacing him with a woman. Anyone in the history of anything COULD be bi. And fans make those head canons all the time. But when it comes to fictional characters, it doesn’t count unless the media SHOWS us they are bi. The books show us Daniel is bi, but the show doesn't and it also goes a step further to TELL us he's not. “Possibly maybe bi offscreen if you stretch your imagination” is not good rep. Neither is changing a canon openly bi character who lived an extremely bi life like Daniel into a potentially closeted character on his deathbed. What good is it if Daniel lived an entirely straight-passing life and swears adamantly from the very beginning of the show that he only ever pretended to be into men as a way to score drugs or get stories? Telling the audience that the flashback scene in the bar was just him “doing what he had to do” and that he wasn’t actually into it. What is supposed to happen? 70 years later as he’s dying from Parkinson’s, he suddenly has a revelation “IguessIreallydidlikementoobutI’mdyingnowbye!” ? How is that good rep for irl LGBT people or of a character in the book who was openly and proudly bi his whole life? Even IF Daniel comes out as bi later, it’s still cowardly and degrading on the show’s part to erase his entire life history of being in m/m relationships like he is in the books. It’s not cool at all, and it’s so very obvious that this show was conceived by cishet men who refuse to understand Anne Rice’s non-gender-confirming point of view on relationships.

[@samwill7259]

I didn't assume that you weren't having a good time. But a good chunk of that is the fact that your enthusiasm seems, for lack of a better term, immortal. Your voice makes ME excited about this show and I'm not even watching it!

[@spews1973]

Glad you enjoyed this episode and are enjoying the series on the whole, Maven. But I'm also glad you have the patience, inclination and intelligence to critique and, when necessary, criticize it.

[@ebonijayde]

Glad I’m not the only one suspicious of Rashid. I think he’s either Talamasaca or a spy for Lestat.

[@freddyjafar1490]

What if he IS Lestat using a glamor? The knowledge of Marius, the building, an excuse to be close yet still distant from Louis? Just imagine just imagine

[@ebonijayde]

@@freddyjafar1490 oooohhh I like that theory!Lestsat is close and it makes you wonder which God Rashid was referring to when questioned by Daniel.

[@tdali8347]

@@ebonijayde Yes. When Rashid said, "I serve a god", I didn't automatically think he was talking about wondrous Louis.

[@ebonijayde]

@@tdali8347 Hmmm there’s also a theory going around that he may be Armand or Marius. Thiughts?

[@mbibeau4635]

Can we adress Bro Lestat? "and with a German ON THEIR BAYONNET!!!"

[@thaheeraalthaf1970]

Lestat is a football fan. Now, we need to decide which team he supports!

[@nekusakura6748]

"KILL THE HUNS!!!!"

[@laiacorominas5347]

I'm starting to think that this interview is happening after the QotD and some other books' events

[@seanjames1600]

Yea, that was hurtful when Louis said he was about to lose the last thing he cared about...no wonder Lestat snapped...

[@roseclarity1493]

Vampire saves young girl from a fire and calls her his redemption... Yeah that's from a Vampire show from the 2000's called Moonlight. It was ridiculous in Moonlight, and it's ridiculous now, especially knowing where this is headed.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

Note - in ep 1, Louis said experiencing that little bite, "especially for the first time", and in that very particular context within which it had occurred for him (because of his intimate closeness with Lestat and the vulnerability of allowing himself in that moment to be with Lestat like that) which stirred up [emotional] FEELINGS which he'd never felt before .. so, maybe Louis' live snack whose name I forget mid-interview in 2022 during ep 2 has simply experienced it enough times to remain externally stoic about it now, because it's less intense after repeat bites and because there isn't that very particular kinda context framing that occurrence? (Or maybe the swooning and collapsing while trying to walk away afterward was as much the high as the blood loss ..who knows.) .. and I thought the drug high wasn't mentioned until later on after Louis drank _Lestat's _*_blood_* specifically? 🤔😅🤷‍♀️😁🤣 (idk - I should rewatch a fourth time^--^) But, literally, how would we even actually know if Lestat stuck anything other than just his fangs in Louis or not whilst levitating them off the ground like that anyhow? (Except that there was no further hip motion?) Lol I'm basically just thinking out loud, over here, though. ^-^

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

I guess, the thing is that I'm not personally interpreting what Louis says to Daniel as anyone actually telling the viewers[ like you or I] what to think or feel about it at all, so much as I just see it as Louis telling Daniel what _Louis_ thinks of it[ which viewers are entirely free to disagree with just like how Daniel actually often does] or at least wants to give the impression of having thought of it-OR, alternatively, as being Louis possibly trying to control/influence what *Daniel* (and/or other potential in-universe fictional audiences of this interview) might think of it....whether Louis' judgment on it is actually always totally clear-headed or not. I don't see the way that Louis shuts Daniel's questions down as Louis trying to say "but it really wasn't like that", so much as I see it as Louis just not wanting to talk about that[ whether it actually was or not]-because, this isn't a debate about deciding whether his relationship with Lestat was toxic or wonderful or what/not, this is simply Louis sharing at the very least [if not how he actually personally experienced things with Lestat at the time then for sure ]how he personally thinks back of his experience(s) with Lestat now in hindsight. I guess, where you've been seeing it as saying "But it's not like this, so it's fiinnee"-I've been seeing it more as saying "Well... It probably actually IS/WAS/ indeed like that(or at least it _might/could_ have been), but this is about whether or not it always consciously felt that way to Louis[ or whether or not that is how Louis personally wants to choose to think-of &/or remember it right now], almost regardless of whether it actually was or not".

[@DarkLadyy6660]

This.

[@hlamart1]

I have loved your discussions, oratory on the Vampire books of the Goth Queen Ann Rice. I did not make it past the fourth Lestat book, yet your review of Chronicles is enticing enough to give me a nudge towards picking up the adventures of Lestat again. I read all of the Mayfair Witches books and am not interested in a series, and the way Hollywood treats/mistreats favorite authors leaves me apprehensive. Being burned out on remakes, reworking, returns and prequels all being embarrassing almost willful ruin of great works. I watched the first episode of Lesty Loves Louis and am not at all entertained beyond laughing at the weight piled on every event and each line of dialogue. I want to like this series. I need to like it. Something needs to happen, as in hiring good writers and directors who make the effort to translate language and story without killing, throttling, tearing up the source material, and telling us to love their work or be called racist, 21st century hate for all things not in the mirror while telling us they ruined the source because they wanted it to look like them and to reflect contemporary social political scene. They kill the rabbit every single time. Dune is an exception. So your exposition is enough to encourage one to skip the muddy second episode and enter the third. This as a way of salvaging my love. I am no different than any other person who adores our Queen Rice. Reading comments here it is obvious we who love to read need Interview to be the best possible expression of Lestat and Louis. Your reviews are my favorite. Recollections of discussions happily drawn out over a night of the sensual literary life is what your expositions represent for me. Thank you! I must wait for this initial season to complete before watching frame by frame. In the meantime, a very good time not at all mean, yours are the best conversations of literary pleasure.

[@greysnake2903]

Exactly

[@williamhunter8773]

You call LeStats "acts of love" white saviorism, but they really come across more like narcissistic love bombing. Even LeStat's supposed defense of Luise when it comes to racial matter's seems more like narcissistic opportunism to look like the hero in Luise eyes, especially when it seems like Luise is pulling away from him. Classic Narcissism.

[@Setsunako6587]

I think it's mostly that, with several sprinkles of "well-intentioned, but ignorant ally" on top. Lestat's no colonizer, he's just lived with so much power for so long that he doesn't understand the nuances of what Louis is going through.... Also he's a raging Narcissist and one of the "best" groomers I've ever seen 😂! Lestat THINKS he loves Louis, but YIKES #getout

[@linddeykal]

Does anyone else watched it with closed captioning because of Lestat’s French accent? 😂

[@thevampirologist3054]

No I don't It's not even a thick accent its clearly a put on accent so you shouldn't have a issue understanding

[@TearfulMoon]

I watch with captions on because I'm not a native speaker and then rewatch without them to enjoy subtle nuances

[@MavenoftheEventide]

When I first watched it all last month, the screeners they sent me didn’t have subtitles and there was SO MUCH dialogue I couldn’t make out until I rewatched it multiple times 😅

[@Busha69]

I watch it with closed captions for the American people...I understand Lestat perfectly but I don't understand Louis. Not a native English speaker, obviously.

[@lchicks86]

To be honest, I don't understand how Lestat was always looked at as the toxic one. Look at the situation: Lestat was so in love with Louis that he did everything he could to make him happy; he loved everything about him, the good and the bad. He loved him unconditionally. He went to Louis' family events even though he didn't want to (and didn't eat them), he planned date nights, provided him an amazing home to live in, bought him everything he asked for, gave him a life of luxury, told him he'd never have to worry about money and, most importantly, gave him immortal life and power. Because of Lestat, Louis will never have to worry about the things that most people suffer in life. Louis will never have to suffer sickness or death...he will never have to worry about money or working...he can do anything he wants and be anything he wants. Yet, he is absolutely unappreciative of the amazing life, power, and love that he's been given. Louis is willing to take and take all the privileges that Lestat's lifestyle provides him but what has he done for Lestat other than allow Lestat to love him...nothing. After all, Lestat never pretended to be anyone but himself. He was open and honest and what he wanted and who he was. It was Louis' decided to be with Lestat and accept the offer of immortal life, even after he saw Lestat slaughter a priest. What I wouldn't give for someone that loves and cares about me so much that they are willing to give me everything I want or need, without question....willing to make sure I never get sick, grow old, or die...willing to spend eternity by my side....and all they ask for from me in return is my unconditional love. Lestat got the short end of the stick, 100%.

[@toshomni9478]

In the book Louis was the one with all the money and Lestat seemed more like a leech who was using Louis so he could have a nice place to live. Lestat also never told him anything about Vampires depriving Louis of the lore and knowledge he so desperately desired in order to understand his existence. All in all Lestat is presented much more as a mean-spirited bully than the version we are getting in this show.

[@stlltx505]

Okay, Lestat

[@alicedeligny9240]

"he didn't eat them" wow the bar is low for Lestat.

[@diendiamonds175]

They are both toxic in their own ways but Louis is still a fresh vampire and is connected to the human things he still has, they didn't disappear when he turned. Lestat forgets that time and time again and forgot what it was like to be in that same position years ago. He is a horrible communicator as well (they're both not great but Louis in the sense of hold back feelings) Lestat is more open but hates being direct, he also likes to assume he knows whats best. All this leads to Lestat not really listening to Louis when he does voice his concerns, he brushes a lot to the side. Him not eating Louis's FAMILY should come without praise tbh. If Louis simply gave into what Lestat wants because he "owes" him, he would lose himself and...honestly think Lestat wouldn't even love him anymore after that

[@lchicks86]

@@alicedeligny9240Says someone defending the man who pulled a sword to his own brother's throat for preaching the word of God because his brother was running a whore house....

[@EricMontreal22]

Man you're quick. Brilliant as ever.

[@Busha69]

I am right there with you. The second episode disappointed me but I was able to enjoy this one a lot (with little exceptions). Probably because couple of minutes in, I was able to completely detach myself from my precious canon and totally forgot this was supposed to be the IWTV. It was very easy as this had almost zero content from the books. I am kind worried about the next week though.

[@Ceares]

Lestat is canonically biromantic/bisexual- that's not straight washing. Assuming by this time no spoilers but Daniel might say he's straight but his fascination with Rashid seems more than just curiosity about how he fits into the picture. Wondering how he tastes goes far beyond that. He completely reads as someone in denial about their sexuality, excusing his same-sex experiences when he was younger as only the result of his addiction.

[@MavenoftheEventide]

I literally say in the video that Lestat is bi and it’s cool that we get to see him with a woman to portray that. However, the Lestat/Antoine RELATIONSHIP from the books is “”””straightwashed”””” by eliminating a canon bi male character and replacing him with a woman. Anyone in the history of anything COULD be bi. And fans make those head canons all the time. But when it comes to fictional characters, it doesn’t count unless the media SHOWS us they are bi. The books show us Daniel is bi, but the show doesn't, and it also goes a step further to TELL us he's not. “Possibly maybe bi offscreen if you stretch your imagination” is not good rep. Neither is changing a canon openly bi character who lived an extremely bi life like Daniel into a potentially closeted character on his deathbed. What good is it if Daniel lived an entirely straight-passing life and swears adamantly from the very beginning of the show that he only ever pretended to be into men as a way to score drugs or get stories? Telling the audience that the flashback scene in the bar was just him “doing what he had to do” and that he wasn’t actually into it. What is supposed to happen? 70 years later as he’s dying from Parkinson’s, he suddenly has a revelation “IguessIreallydidlikementoobutI’mdyingnowbye!” ? How is that good rep for irl LGBT people or of a character in the book who was openly and proudly bi his whole life? Even IF Daniel comes out as bi later, it’s still cowardly and degrading on the show’s part to erase his entire life history of being in m/m relationships like he is in the books. It’s not cool at all, and it’s so very obvious that this show was conceived by cishet men who refuse to understand Anne Rice’s non-gender-confirming point of view on relationships.

[@Dimensioneer88]

I hope you will do a review of Morbius.

[@janalalewicz7385]

Okay I'm a 59 y/o white,straight female who has read only 1 of the books and that was 'Interview....' and it was so long ago I didn't even remember much except when I read it I really did enjoy it. Here's my take on all this criticizing.....Anne Rice is listed as an executive producer. Yes I know she's dead. However for her to put her name to this as a producer tells me that at some point in time SHE SIGNED OFF ON THIS AMC SERIES! ALso she has a living,breathing son to carry on for her as to what she approves and what she would not. What kind of amazes me is when Interview was written way back in the 70s....HELLO!....it was CLEAR these 2 had a homosexual attraction AND RELATIONSHIP! Sure Rolice kept it vague but the implication was most definitely there! If u didn't get that when u watched the movie from the 90s? Then I guess I need to be hit over the head with it or something! If Christopher and Anne Rice signed off by putting their names to it? THEN YHATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME! For those of u making such a big deal about the sexuality in the series? Perhaps u should more closely examine your personal views and feelings regarding sexuality. You might SAY your all good with open sexuality and you might be SAYING your all good with it but I think you've got more hangups than u think I do once u scratch your own surface ya know? This series is really quite beautiful,the set design,the acting.....BEAUTIFUL! and Lestat??? Well like Louis says..."He's all kinds a fucked up!" Lol

[@mayaamis]

Anne worked on the show in VERY EARLY stages of production with her son, the original scripts and ideas for the show were very different than, after she died they changed everything so much, this version is not the one she signed off on. And her son Christopher even wrote a script for episode 1, which was suppose to start with Lestat and his life and transformation, because Anne always wanted the show to start with Lestats' life and meet him and go chronological form there. But they threw out his script as well and decided to do "Interview" again and change a lot. so that's that about "Anne being heavily involved". and vampires are ASEXUAL creatures they do not have romantic and sexual attractions or relationship... but they are deeply emotional ones. No one denies homoerotic themes, or that many characters were queer when alive.. but no vampires are not "lovers"

[@spoons250]

@@mayaamis They literally go on to have very literal sex in "the vampire lestat" and call each other "lover". Lmfao what a joke you are. Yea. They are gay and yea, Rices GAY son helped write it. She said she couldnt right sex in 1 because it was the 70s and publishers wouldnt publish gay sex. In the 90s theres tons of gay sex and they very very literally refer to each other as "lovers"