Ep 83: Why Do Your 30 Trillion Cells Feel Like a Self? Part 2 | INNER COSMOS WITH DAVID EAGLEMAN

[@scottk7515]

For those of us fascinated by the biological nature of consciousness and intelligence, this conversation absolutely delicious. Thanks, guys.

[@MrBobzane]

Nice use of the word delicious

[@Zakdon.S]

David Eagleman . You are my hero. You are an amazing communicator . I so admire you .

[@kathyoconnell-poppycockpup6773]

I’ve learned so much from you, thank you.

[@youliantroyanov2941]

Two of my fav scientists in a convo... Match made in heaven...

[@rebelScience]

Same here! Are you involved in any science? Biology, computer programming?

[@__cooper__]

Both brilliant - and many fascinating studies and research being done by both, with lots of interesting cross overs

[@StevePotter]

My two favourite thinkers! They are not armchair philosophers; both actually do experiments, and take their ideas and use them to make advances that will actually help people.

[@rebelScience]

@@StevePotter 100% agree. they both changed my life. I switched from a generic, pointless 9-5 programming job to Bioinformatics because of these two and a few others.

[@__cooper__]

​@@rebelScience hack the self by gathering data on everything , unlock the possibilities by finding new patterns - much my mindset of why spend time not continuously seeking, probing, adapting, changing and seeing what is possible. Curiosity is a good mindset that keeps life interesting :)

[@anamargaridasilva5149]

"We are a flow of massively interconnected events" D. Siegel Thank you! 🧡

[@unorthodoxphilosopher]

this is GOLD!

[@BlueBirdgg]

Thanks for the discussion!

[@asabovesobelow6308]

Really enjoying the discussion. Thank you! I'd like to offer a clarification at 24:39. The mind isn't using plasticity to adopt a third arm. Rather, the subject's proprioception has been duped into relocating the position of the arm into the rubber arm based on visual and tactile clues. Once the subconscious accepts the rubber arm, the meat arm disappears precisely because the mind knows it has only one left or right arm and the corroborating sensory information now places it in the rubber arm. The meat arm can now be pierced by a needle through and through, and, so long as the eyes don't catch it happening, the mind won't feel it because it's not there anymore. But it will feel a hammer on the rubber arm, or, more precisely, the mind will experience what it believes being struck on the hand by a hammer should feel like.

[@a.bodhichenevey1601]

Excellent lecture! Thank you! Change is inevitable, and adaptation to that change makes us who we are right here and now--surviving! Beautiful!

[@litaozhang9948]

It is definitely a fresh and wise way of looking at life and others in general. It helps us break away from our cocoons that house our fears and limited imaginations! Thank you!

[@TerriblePerfection]

As a nondualist, I don't really recognize a "separate" self. What would it be and where would it reside? What is the tree without the ground, the sun, the water, etc.? It may be practical for humans to label and speak of such things, but ultimately, I believe, there is only one thing, continually unfolding.

[@stevenpham6734]

And that one thing is itself no-thingness

[@waynesulak1488]

The Clarke story mentioned is The Fires Within.

[@jennifercoulter79]

Love your videos! So informative and very well done! You should have 100x more subs!

[@micahhight]

Dr. Eagleman, will you please post your 5 part series, "The Brain with Brian Eagleman" to KZbin? Pleeeeeeeease?? It is the best series, show, entertainment that I have ever seen! It really is my favorite, absolutely fascinating!

[@criscris5061]

It was important your explanation about levin ideas

[@wernerHkeller]

We are everchanging causal patterns

[@__cooper__]

So many fear who they may become, the unknowns that lie ahead, and the loss of the patterns that are, so they remain who they were as best they can, rather than embracing the process of continuous change and expansion, adaptation and exploration.

[@drleesadr]

I studied communication for a long time. Then I taught it for a long time, and then, used it in a government/ county job. I know that simple eye contact without words will change people, both participants & observers. Every interaction we have changes our perception and beliefs of ourselves and others.

[@simesaid]

This was quite beautifully put!

[@michaelgoh171171]

Fascinating discussion. I enjoyed it so much. Thank you.

[@unrealread5579]

Loving the conversation so far. I have to admit at 43:30 a sort of mystical music starts... That is probably the only thing I didnt like. Why put something so mystic there? I had trouble focusing on Mike's voice, I was only hearing this mystical music. Left me with a sort of "Meh" feeling, a bit like if the goal intended was to make me feel a certain way. Beside this, thank you for inviting Mike! Pretty awesome stuff he is doing.

[@ml-ei3nz]

I Love the bongos in the back of the room. The music wallpaper I find distracting. Great interview

[@SapienSpace]

About 40:00 having multiple uses overlapping between nodes is very similar to how Fuzzy Logic uses overlapping attention nodes. It provides reliability through redundancy with slightly different perspectives.

[@ChadKovac]

I believe Dr Levin's work will be used to create human homes from seeds in the close-future. Give it 5 years with AI augmented research.

[@ChadKovac]

Using transgential material, non-nurial memory and intelligence coupled with highly selective bio-electrical manipulation. Maybe thru sound or injection.. a window here? Inject potassium and magnesium here. Want a door? Injection of sodium here...

[@jenniferl8714]

Confabulation sounds like it might be Sheldrakes Morphic Resonance ❤

[@dhpbear2]

'The other day somebody stole everything in my apartment and replaced it with an exact replica... When my roommate came home I said, "Roommate, someone stole everything in our apartment and replaced it with an exact replica." He looked at me and said, "Do I know you?" ' - Steven Wright

[@jessamynfinneran5036]

Do the butterflies use the engrams of the leaf colors to choose which leaves to lay their eggs on?

[@skynet4496]

Thanks but maybe don't use a background music especially when the guest has not so good audio quality.... It looks like he's on dial up LOL It is fascinating how adaptive our brains are to data. Like yall said, a computer requires linear logic whereas our left right hemisphere super computer can extract information from chaos lol

[@drleesadr]

Wow! Thank you! I feel like this was a grad class. Thank you!!!!! I wish today that I could read/cite this research in my dissertation on how communication changes multiple aspects of intimacy over time in close relationships. Seriously! My dissertation, univ of AZ, 1994. Awhile back there. Thank you!!! I'm so glad I could hear this, and can listen again, taking notes.

[@drleesadr]

Hahaha! And in the end, today I'm teaching ESL to Dominicans... and your take on defining things, what is this?, is equally applicable to me and my students today, 2024! Again, thank you!

[@godmode9913]

Its fascinating to understand how the brain works but I always wonder why it works, we’re did the need to excist originate from? Why does life exist and why, I struggle thinking that it’s all just chance and the first living thing just appeared out of chance that everything just came together because? That’s like a meteorite landed and just happened to crash into the shape of a PlayStation 5 . There has to be a intelligent maker, how else could life form out of nothing and have the need to survive

[@jagfnz]

There 3 articles by mika on the podcast website. But during the course of the talk mike referred to many other researchers - would you ask mike to put together list of these researchers and where possible a link to their websites -in a ay that would help us explore these fascinating ideas in biology

[@atiqulmazumder]

❤️❤️❤️

[@MegaSudjai]

What is DNA/mitDNA if not adaptive behavioural information imprinted on the assembling chemical Self over the past 4.6 billion years or so..?

[@MegaSudjai]

*authors note: DNA/mitDNA = "memory"; Self = lineage within species

[@life42theuniverse]

Life evolved from bubble membranes. Hypothesis: Anywhere in the universe that they're bubbles there's life.

[@lordemed1]

Actually 37 trillion, but who’s counting?🤣

[@gokhankavasoglu8223]

👏👏👏

[@ChadKovac]

19:22 isn't he also describing how AI decompress data? 😊 Now you see why human creativity will be the ultimate value input in the future because humans can create new ideas from nothing... Currently AI cannot. Not from nothing.

[@Safetytrousers]

Not from nothing. It may seem that way, but we only have our past learnings and random fluctuations thereof to go by.

[@ExiledGypsy]

Isn't confabulation related to language learning? I wonder how AI would develop if the substate was a rational language thought physics, logic and mathematics and then exposed to natural language and trained to translate language to a rational language, Language changes the brain structure. Learning natural language has been imposed on humans which is not suitable substrate for rational thinking. This is at the root of AI hallucinations. This doesn't have to be copied to our systems. The training of AI should be targeted at developing rational conclusion, maintaining philosophical consistency. Such a system can not only distinguish between rational or otherwise but can also describe its processes. It stops it from being a black box. This necessitated a new language. There have been many attempts to develop such a language. This is why linguists need to be involved in designing AI systems and early training. Such a system will not hallucinate.

[@RodbloAlrez1]

David, not everyone thinks like you, and that also exists here. Let's work on that paradox for a second. You don't need to sound smart, with a smiley tone, or illustrate everything with a stock thumbnail or "podcastie" soundtrack. I appreciate your efforts and your interview with Michael (I found you following him) but man, stop the cringe, please. I really want to enjoy your channel but you have to go with your: "they are living sssstories" c'mon. I tried. Yes, I understand. "Go somewhere else if you don't like it." I am sorry. I just really wanted to like this. Cheers.

[@art-thou-gomeo]

I didn't find anything about this episode cringe. So why should he cater to one individual's request?