Ep. 93 Christian ON Dating, S*x Before Marriage, Courtship Among Believers, Divorce Cause Nowadays

[@dumisanikunene640]

Noma abaningi bangathini kodwa Apostle Makhathini ukhuluma iqiniso lodwa kubalulekile ukwazana kahle before umshado ukwaMsindisi noma usezweni # ALIBONGWE IGAMA LIKAJESU.

[@ruudmbeje50]

Ayikho loyonto yohlathi leli. Nadukiswa wumuntu emini kanti nikholwa nhloboni

[@nelilinda2199]

Another problem most people are from broken families and they tried to exercise faith in stead of dealing with issues be4 involving themselves in relationship

[@Amahle361]

Thank you.

[@baneleluthuli6615]

You are 100% correct

[@sunflawa]

Uyiqedile

[@ruthmichelle6623]

True

[@WisemanDayimani]

THIS IS THE EXAMPLE OF A SELF APPOINTED APOSTLE.

[@nontobekongubane8019]

@@WisemanDayimani 🤞🤞🤞

[@itumelengmerebodi9177]

True.

[@CredoMaxwell]

There are so many marriages that are still standing on love and God's principles not because they were first on a relationship

[@duduzileseletela7519]

Self appointed or not he is stating facts PERIOD and open minded

[@sunflawa]

​@@duduzileseletela7519 true

[@Lesedi98]

Iqiniso ongeke ulithole emabandlen. This is raw and honest.

[@tebozee4728]

I'm a Pastor and getting married to another Pastor this month and we've been in a relationship for 4 years (we are saved and born again). Relationship is the best thing you can ever have with your partner before getting married. Entering into a marriage without a prior relationship can be challenging and may lead to difficulties in building a strong foundation for the marriage.

[@kebaoetsedhlamini5292]

All the best on your union but remember you'll know the real person once you stay with him/her.

[@zamahdladla2978]

@kebaoetsedhlamini5292 very true. This is profound

[@SakhileJiyane]

❤

[@ajbceilings]

I was so blessed by this topic, very much rich and helpful. Siyabonga ST.

[@quintonlephoto536]

I'm glad someone said it, the new testament is not about social life. siyabonga mfundisi

[@kwaneleshongwe478]

Oooooh Bhuti ST this is very powerful, am not married but ive learnt alot from your podcast 🙌🙏we need such teachings....

[@yandisathonga5530]

Thank You so much Apostle MW Makhathini 🔨🧱🔥❤️ Woooow This is Power💫

[@SlieGabela]

Mr T umnkenenezo ongena ngawo baba hhay uxoxa into ejulile ngevangeli Kimi Amen

[@simangelepatricia4057]

Kuleskhathi samanje kumele sibambelele ezwini sikholelwe eqinisweni sihlole nomoya Imibono yabantu singagxili kuyona asihlale ezwini ngoba lona aliguquki limi njalo ingunaphakade asingadidiseki

[@Letspray-s6g]

Kunjalo .

[@CredoMaxwell]

Inoba utat'uMakhathini uthetha ngabakhe abazalwane xa esithi vele bayalalalana. There's young people filled with the Holy Spirit and they dont go around sleeping. Sometimes we say things so that we can be relevant to the world

[@sibusiwengqwemesa9024]

Nyani baninzi abantu abangalalani bekholwa

[@duduzileseletela7519]

He is telling the truth most yabazalwane bayalalana and rush to get married because they already impregnated each other anilithandi iqiniso maxoki

[@CredoMaxwell]

@duduzileseletela7519 you cannot take 20% of people you who sinned and ended-up getting married and say the of Jesus Christ is in that nonsense as a whole. It's blasphemy

[@duduzileseletela7519]

@@CredoMaxwell it's not 20% we both know it it's 70% you are holy holy during the day and at night you sin even the pastors are exposed everyday of being pedophiles there are only few people who are still doing things by the book

[@kuneneemmanuel1467]

@@CredoMaxwell having sex before marriage and get married its not blasphemy you can rather say they sinned. the old testament says a man who slept with a woman must marry her or pay the price in agreement with the family of a woman.

[@khethanimbhele10]

Ngikwazi unjaloke makhathini 😊❤

[@BongyKhumalo]

ST, we need Apostle to come back for part2

[@khumbuziledube5829]

This is sooo good..Thank you so much for the this Apostle Makhathini🎉

[@SakhumziMngomeni]

Ndaze ndayithanda le conversation

[@petuniasibanyoni8706]

Aw Mpostoli Nkosi yam ngiyabonga iqiniso lonke lelo olishoyo sesigileke kangaka wema❤❤

[@sylviajantjies2101]

I ones heard that statement from Apostle Gino Jenings never love with all your heart but love from your heart.

[@Lorraine296]

This is so worth watching. Amen

[@thabilenomcebongubane3174]

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽😭😭😭😭😭 Makadunyiswe zikhathi Zonke uNkulunkulu wethu iseZulwini

[@militobawo5239]

But I disagree with this Apostle when it comes to Divorce, the Bible says God hates divorce, the only time one is allowed to divorce is when your partner cheats. And again with having sex before marriage, I hear you say you do not encourage sex before marriage but I think you do, as a Man of God you should emphasise it sex before marriage is a big No. Just because the youth engages in sex alredy does not mean they are right. We must be careful of what we say in these public platforms otherwise we would be sending wrong messages to people

[@ladybee1909]

Well said

[@pabalelolekaka4257]

True that

[@kebaoetsedhlamini5292]

Agree 100%

[@slindilenancy1793]

Another pastor i introduced my boyfriend he didn't agreed with our relationship because we are in a distance. Our distance keeps us in presence of God wathi we must stay closer my inner doesn't agree but God His been so good to us so far🎉

[@nontobekongubane8019]

Thina ke sisabambe ivangeli lakudala ke ukuthi umuntu uyathandaza acele upartner kuNkulunkulu akunike nishade niphathane kahle futhi kunoNkulunkulu phakathi emshadweni wenu... into eyenza nidivose kangaka iyo lento yenu yokungamfaki uNkulunkulu maniqala lento yenu. Umfundisi akayeke ukukhuluma ngeExperience yakhe akhulume intando KaNkulunkulu ngoba lento yakhe izomqhatha noNkulunkulu baningi abazowela esonweni ngenxa yalenfundiso or agxile ekushumayeleni uJesu iskhathi asisekho uJesu uyabuya, akashumayele irepentance and holiness ayeke ezomjolo zinabantu bazo. #umbonowami

[@yvonneheber4282]

Amen Mantomela

[@JacobNhlapo-gm2nr]

Amen bhuti

[@JacobNhlapo-gm2nr]

Sorry not bhuti amen sesi

[@JacobNhlapo-gm2nr]

He call himself apostle but uhlukene ne bible noma izwi ukhuluma okwakhe

[@luckymhlongo6027]

Gede experience but uthini uThixo. Abalalelene b4 umshado bonile abaphenduke and asingashintshi izwi ngenxa yalokho and ukuthi bayalanana abazi bayabheda finish bandinga usizo finish.

[@sunflawa]

Eyy le part yokulalana yinkulu kakhulu ebandleni... There needs to be a great repentance kulelohlangothi Ukulalana meaning adultery (abashadile balala nabantu abangashadanga nabo) AND fornication (abasha balalane)... In the church 💔... Happens in all churches 💔

[@MembreNonduduzo-vd7ft]

Thank you Thabani 🙏

[@Sthembile-n9h]

Mmmmmm buya Nkosi konke kufezekile.

[@Lesedi98]

We need part of this

[@SakhileJiyane]

Nami i believe uthando and long relationship not that am against god ways mina i feel and see its easy for break up when married to a stranger even if i god revealed him to you

[@ntombifuthishezi5077]

Yeah it's true bayofundana ngendlela that's why they divorce now and then 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼💔💔💔💔

[@ThabaniGumede-w5o]

Powerful ❤

[@sanelexulu3688]

Wawufundisa ke u poison umfundisi..mission approach will be still relevant no matter what

[@WonderMalindisa]

Iqiniso lento yokukhetha umuntu ongamazi bese niyashada izinkinga, futhi ibanga ama divorce.

[@NonhlanhlaMpungose-mg4of]

Ngaze ngamthanda ke lobaba

[@zimkitafilani8590]

According to utata, if the best way yongena emtshatweni yile yase zweni kalok bekumele the "world" has 0% of divorce rate.

[@makacebonombele6222]

Uzowubona uma usufile mehluko wokusindiswa

[@77hazel]

Umuntu azibize ngo Apostle kodwa ufundisa izinto ama Apostles angazifundisanga. Yiwonke lawa ama false prophet. Azodukisa ibandla lika Jesu Krestu.

[@SabeloMakhubela]

My view says, its always good to know your partner b4 marrige n of course without engaging in sex if u can , u can not just marry a stranger, know their philosophy | ambition | personality | emotions | what makes them happy sad | goals | direction | background at times, n so on..

[@masandefuzile2261]

This is practical

[@Lesedi98]

Mmm this man❤. I have to follow him. Does have social media handles?

[@marias-i8k]

Modern Apostle. Ufohlile, ungene gevastela( window entry ). Uya e gijima and uhamba ne bandla!

[@teekay543]

What a wise man of God.

[@CSCMpodcast]

Indeed he is

[@sizosilwanyana3566]

IVangeli alifani neTechnology yona etshintsha tshintshayo from time to time this is the Gospel of Jesus uNkulunkulu akaguquki akatshintshi nguye izolo nguye namhla nguye naphakade akanakuguqulwa zizimo nesikhathi samanje.IZwi likaThixo limi limi alitshintshi siyathanda asithandi, abazalwane mabahlale eZwini likaNkulunkulu hayi emazwini abantu.Amen

[@mzonjaninkomo7057]

Yibo abafundisi enibafunayo abanitshela ukuthi its proper to have sex before marriage. According to the commandment of God that a sin again oneself and against your parents

[@nontobekongubane8019]

@@mzonjaninkomo7057 abafundisi bensuku zokgcina vele bakhuluma lokhu okudinga ukuzwiwa indlebe zabantu not okusuka kuNkulunkulu

[@ayandamthombeni8769]

Azange atjho njalo.stop lying

[@duduzileseletela7519]

Iqiniso anilifuni maxoki vele niyalalana nimithisane and rush to get married ukuvala uhlazo ukukhohlakala kuningi emasontweni ukudlula ema tavern

[@sindisiwemathenjwa9908]

He didn't say that.... Being in a relationship has nothing to do with sex.

[@mzonjaninkomo7057]

@sindisiwemathenjwa9908 nxa ethi kuyalalwa nengane ziyalalana usho ukuthini? But the honest truth is that the Message of our time prohibits that whether you call it umjolo or dating

[@NoklungaNzimande]

Uthi umfundisi "vele bayalalana" umbuzo wami uthi kuright yini lokho? Ngabe kuyi ntando kaBabu Nkulunkulu yini lokho?

[@cymkbooi1594]

I think umfundisi was also supposed to tell us about his experience in marriage and try not to be generic about the topic.

[@MusaShabangu-z6y]

Wow, harsh truth!

[@ntombifuthishezi5077]

U own ur own ke sekgowa ngwaneso azikhale azikhale azikhale 💃💃💃💃🤞🤞🤞

[@sekopaul9253]

Kanti sifunda eliphi i Bible lapho lithi akukho okumhlulayo uNkulunkulu um trying to say u cn marry someone u don't know kodwa konke kuhambe kahle emshadweni i think apostle uyawangabaza amandla ka Jehova

[@nondumisomthembu-f9u]

Vele Angeke siyendawonye njengamanzi kodwa S.T abanye bethu siytholile into okade sizbuza yona 100% according to i relationship ❤

[@Letspray-s6g]

S.T is misleading people

[@SiphokaziDondashe]

UNgcwele uThixo,nathi kumele siphile ngcwele,not lento ethethwa apha. No one knows ubambo lwakhe ngaphezu kuka Bawo wethu. If you're a true Christian,and you ask for your life time partner from God, you'll never go wrong. He'll give exactly that, without you knowing each other before, without doing abomination. I'm talking about real Children of God,not those made in China ones.

[@cymkbooi1594]

ARE YOU MARRIED WENA WENA SIS WAM. I think only married people can comment on this so that basxelele kakuhle and theres always duality in everything. I THINK PEOPLE THAT HAVE TRIED THIS NEEDS TO TELL US HOW THE MARRIAGE IS GOING.

[@nelilinda2199]

Abangakholwa basuke bejwayele ukubekezelelana kuma-flops so they continue with that kind of lifestyle. Whereas Christians think they are both on the same page kanti lutho akunjalo

[@Lesedi98]

38:50 wow 😢😢🙏❤️

[@NonhlanhlaMpungose-mg4of]

Amaphoyisa obungcwele

[@PhakahGagashe]

amaphoyisa obungcwele😂

[@ruudmbeje50]

Sengifisa ukwazi ukuthi ulivusaphi lelihlathi. Kanti nawe host ngibemibuzo ngawe. Umsangano nje lomuntu yindlela eya esihogweni. Abaningi bathi klifi klifi wakhuluma iqiniso. Niyalazi iqiniso nina? Lona ke ukitaza imizwa yabantu besihogo. Ivangeli akusiyo insangu nob'febe. Le podcast kuthiwa eyabazalwane nje kodwa cha buningi ubuhlathi nakuyo le host

[@SiphiweMajola-z2g]

Singamgxeka nje uMpostol kodwa iqiniso iqiniso i am Cristian kodwa baningi engibaziyo abashada sebelalene kodwa angiyibambe lapho elami lithi singagxeki iqiniso siligqokise

[@luckymhlongo6027]

Bonile kwakumele bayozihlambulula baphenduke, isono siyavunywa. Abenzanga kahle but God is good uma nivuma izono zethu uthembekile ukunithethelela limi lapho izwi. Muhle uWife umuphiwe uThixo. Umfazi ucelwa kuThixo hayi ngokwethu ukuhlakanipha

[@nontobekongubane8019]

@@SiphiweMajola-z2g noma kungenziwa abaBishop abakhulu akushintshi ukuthi kuwrong bonke abenza okunjalo uyeza umhla wokuphela unless bephenduka... yena njengoMfundisi akangabhebhethekisi akeze namacebo ukuth kuliwa kanjani nenkanuko kuleskhathi abantu bengakahlanganiswa ngokusemthethweni ayeke ukucompromiser ngevangeli ukuthi ngoba vele kuyenziwa azilime zye tsheni no no no it's wrong akuyona into engaphuma emlomeni womuntu ozibiza ngoMfundisi leyo

[@thembyn686]

Yazi mna i.asked pastors if i dnt sleep with this man before marriage how can u know if uyavukelwa or fertile

[@Letspray-s6g]

Weee😅 but are you a believer?

[@anony7164]

That will be a carnal mind

[@SabeloMakhubela]

​@@Letspray-s6g 😅 U C us believers acting as if these things don't exist, we can discuss fearlessly without engaging in sex

[@TheeAnonymousTrader]

😂😂😂

[@zinesiwayi6667]

Now he's promoting umjolo, ilust luthando? When they get married they just make it permanent. Talking nonsense promoting izinto zelizwe!

[@afroqueen8088]

Can you imagine....I can't believe such rubbish is being spoken

[@Lesedi98]

I do not think this is nonsense. It's the truth. These things are happening inside churches and ziyambambathwa. It's rare to find people speaking the truth cz vele sibheken nayo sing bazalwane. Lobaba is teaching truth.

[@Inamithegoat]

@@Lesedi98 dating/umjolo is a sin before God,lo baba lento ayikhulumayo is not from the bible,its occultic nyana

[@PhilipNgcobo]

2Corinthians 7v1. Leviticus 20v26.

[@uZah1]

25:12 We align with the word, in any generation Mphostoli, bengikuzwa Baba until you expressed that you are not phased by fornication. Its a sin that can send abantwana to hell FOR ETERNITY. Please buya uzoyichaza ibalulekile niyikhe phezulu and to it sounded like ayisiyo i big deal, soul ties kuningi okonakalayo through it.

[@sunflawa]

People fighting for their doctrines in the comments 😂😂😂

[@kebaoetsedhlamini5292]

I don't agree with everything the Apostle is saying about getting to know each other. I believe if we include God in everything we'll overcome. Unsaved people may stay together without marriage for years but end up in divorce, why?

[@ThandisizweMaqashalala]

BUT BEFUNDISI BAMI ABHLONIPHEKILEYO NGIYAYESABA INKULUMO ETHI KUKHONA ABANTU ABANGAKHOLWA NABAKHOLWAYO.MUNA NGOKUQONDA KWAMI OKUKHETHEKILE,BONKE ABANTU ABAYIZIDALWA ZIKAMDALI WEZULU NOMHLABA BAYAKHOLWA.AKEKHO EMHLABENI UMUNTU ONGAKHOLWA.UKUPHILA KOMUNTU NGAMUNYE KUDINGA KUBIZA UKUKHOLWA.

[@vulinhlanhlamchunu1635]

Where did the apostle get his stats about the divorce rate between born-again Christians and non-believers? I would like to verify his data 😂😂

[@thabisomoroka8673]

Why is he promoting divorce . What does the bible say about divorce ? I'm confused.

[@Lesedi98]

He's not promoting it. Listen to him attentively dear.

[@kebaoetsedhlamini5292]

​@@Lesedi98I heard him but he must remind people that if they divorce they must never marry and also abstain permanently until the Ex dies.

[@emihlecarecentre8489]

Yooooh personal experience versus truth of marriage 🤦

[@vulinhlanhlamchunu1635]

Mkhathini is biased in his approach!!! Can he talk about the advantages and disadvantages of the mission approach???

[@iris1896]

Angisho bayadunusa during sex, bashaye boma licking of private parts and other scary stuff in the name of exploring whereas they call themselves children's of God. Angisayiphatsi indzaba ye cheating, God uvele atsi you own your own😂😅

[@LindyMvalo]

Khanithethe bethuna sanuhleka simamele

[@SiphokaziDondashe]

Okokqala,bangaphi abantu abakholwayo emhlabeni,bangaphi,abangakholwa? Kulento esithi,maninzi ama divorces kubantu abakholwayo,kunabo bangakholwayo. Mna ndodwa,andivumelani naye kulondawo. Okwesibini, it's not biblical lento athetha ngayo,indaba ye social ikwi OT. Nalapho ndiyaphisisana naye,kuba kwi ncwadi yokuqala kwabaseKorinte 7,iyatsho ukuthi,umntu akanalo ilungelo lokumchukumisa omnye umntu bengatshatanga,futhi nomntu ongatshatanga,akanalo ilungelo kowakhe umzimba (masturbation).

[@afroqueen8088]

Where are the stats that say Christians have more divorces that unsaved ppl... uyabeda lo apostle

[@KLI9905]

Dangerous teaching.

[@sanelexulu3688]

Very poisonous

[@SimieMaseko]

I am disappointed

[@sitholesmangele6516]

A very diluted and polluted one🚮

[@TheeAnonymousTrader]

You are too religious that's why

[@siphesihlengcobo2695]

Must he always rephrase everything vele

[@TheeAnonymousTrader]

Ukhonze ama punchline

[@sizosilwanyana3566]

Sikhubule nokuba EZwini likaNkulunkulu asongezi or asonezezeli futhi asinciphisi ngoba uNkulunkulu akumvuyisi or akumthokozisi oko siqaphele kuko konke esikwenzayo nesikuthethayo ebantwini bakaThixo

[@bonganisabelo4433]

lobaba ukhuluma iqiniso amakholwa leli angalifuni

[@anelemavundla6864]

Yebo ukholwa kanjan iqiniso ungalifuni

[@sizosilwanyana3566]

Sikhumbule error

[@sizosilwanyana3566]

Umthaka

[@Ngomane_SA]

Angisindisiwe futhi ngeke ngisindiswe kodwa ngiyalulandela uhlelo lwakho. Angiwuboni umahluko phakathi kwami Nani.

[@nongcebokwasa8974]

Nkinga yakho ubheka abantu awubheki uJesuh ubheka abantu abasetshenzwa uJesuh aaay

[@thabanistdlamini]

Ku right nje, angith singabantu sonke not unless uzibona uyisilwane

[@nontobekongubane8019]

@@thabanistdlamini le comment kumele ikuqwashise ebusuku uzinuke amakhwapha mzalwane ukfaniswa nezwe akuyona into encane you must be worried

[@maseratiZulu]

@@nongcebokwasa8974thanks nongcebo❤

[@thabanistdlamini]

​@@nontobekongubane8019 awqwashi ngan wena

[@afroqueen8088]

Uyabeda this fake apostle....this Wokeness will be the end of us

[@Lesedi98]

Awu😮

[@NtombizodwaZodwa-nr6il]

😂😂

[@joycemabena]

He is occultic, mind his hands gestures.

[@PhilipNgcobo]

2Corinthians 7v1. Leviticus 20v26.