EP36 - Charterers grounded our boat

[@bopersson7018]

Oh no just before your holiday ! Good luck with the repairs ! I´m looking forward to reports from the work.

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks Bo, yup it was the absolute worst possible timing, not great. Part of me doesn't want our boat to be torn apart but the other half of me is super interested in the process. Cheers

[@SkypowerwithKarl]

I can’t imagine letting anyone handle my boat. The the training would be unbelievable. Navigation, rules, boat handling and operational uniqueness. I have thousands of hours and even I don’t always get it perfect, but it doesn’t get hurt.

[@SailingAurora]

Very true the charter game is a stressful one if it's your boat. I may do a video on this specifically later on

[@blachak1]

Sorry to see this. I am really surprised to see what huge damage the boat has taken… I was seriously considering a Hanse as my next boat, but I can’t get over the amount of damage you have suffered. I had an X-442 X-Yacht (danish built) and once had a bad grounding on an uncharted rock (after the Tsunami in Thailand), but the only damage we had was to the bottom of the keel…. So I guess I’ll have to save up more and stick to X-Yachts. Good luck with the repairs !!

[@SailingAurora]

The repairs are all done now. The Xyachts are built with a steel grid and very strong but will a fin keel, inevitably you will break something if you hit a rock hard enough. There was an X Yacht in the yard recently with the same damage as ours, had to have the grid glassed back to the hull, so they aren't immune. The damage to our boat was in 2020, she is stronger than ever now 💪. Hope you find a good boat, cheers

[@topc9858]

Hi Chris. Thanks for the episode - as you promised. I hope that at this time the fixing of Aurora is going well and starting to be ready. Friend of mine had his Hanse on the rocks last year. Speed was 4 knots and the damage was similar. It took 3 months to fix.

[@SailingAurora]

You are welcome, She will go into the workshop beginning of December, there is no rush and I would prefer her to be in a nice warm workshop during the harsh months of winter. The estimation is also 3 months to fix, we are very much looking forward to the season next year now

[@topc9858]

@@SailingAurora They should laminate the structural parts to the hull in these production boats like Hanse so that they are stronger in small groundings. In this case I think that it is not about how the boat was build - it is just a fact that if you hit a rock 5 - 7 knots only boats with long keels (or new linjet with the clever keel system) will not have big damage.

[@alwaysright2420]

That's the exact reason why I would never charter out my boat. Success with the repairs.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi there. Yeah and looking back we would probably not have gone with that version, but on the other hand we wouldn't have had a boat yet, chartering was a part of our financial plan. Thanks, can't wait for the new season. Best, Chris & Tanja

[@jihongnam5450]

I really sorry for this happen...Good luck with the fix all

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks for the comment and for the luck, she is in good hands and I'm sure it will go well. Cheers

[@mattyork246]

Wow! Thats a BIG repair! Sorry to see that. Hope the repair goes smoothly

[@matts_sailing]

Also, you should be able to download the track on the Zeus and can probably get from the speed of impact from that. Certainly my old Garmin plotter would give me raw data from the track when I downloaded it. My guess is that it was easily above 6 knots

[@SailingAurora]

@@matts_sailing I have been looking into that on the plotter itself. Never thought of downloading the RAW data, good idea. Looking at how I can get it now, will be interesting to find out. I'll bring it up on the channel if I find anything. Cheers, Matthew

[@iancoverdale998]

Oh no ... nobody looks after a boat like the owner! Had friends run our Hanse aground twice; one with a Yachtmaster at the helm and another, a Day Skipper. Both times at low speed into soft sand. Thankfully, no visible damage inside or out but will be taking an extra close look when she's on the hard this winter. You guys must be gutted and really wondering if chartering Aurora is worth the hassle. Be interested to see how your experts fix this. Best of luck.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Ian, in the UK when I was on my dads boat, we used to hit the bottom all of the time around Poole harbour due to tides and shallow estuaries. It wasn't so much of a problem as it was sand and mud, so not too much concern. Almost certainly when you hit the bottom up here you will hit a rock :( I hope your boat will be fine. We have kind of gotten over the whole ordeal now and looking forward to seeing the repair and getting a stronger boat. It has given me a lot of time over the last few months to do a lot of projects also which has been nice. As for the chartering you are absolutely right we are looking at our options at the moment and we may take her off charter. The benefits are not outweighing the cons this year. Cheers, Chris

[@iancoverdale998]

I wonder if you normally have the depth sounder calibrated to water depth or depth under the keel.

[@SailingAurora]

@@iancoverdale998 Currently it's calibrated to the depth from the transducer, not ideal but I know it will hit the bottom at around 1.6-1.7m, Aurora's draft is 2.1m. I have been meaning to calibrate it to show depth under keel. Probably will do this, but I think they would have grounded anyways

[@iancoverdale998]

Prior to our boat's first grounding, the IS40 depth instruments were showing water depth and fish finder display which uses a separate transducer was showing transducer depth. Post first grounding, thinking this may have caused confusion, changed these both to depth under keel; this did not prevent a second grounding so you're probably right, Chris!

[@alisimmons2844]

We charter in the UK and The Med. I think it is to do with your up bringing, but we always leave the boat cleaner than we find it. We always take significantly more care than if we owned the boat. The thought of having to report such an incident to the owners through poor seamanship and common indecency, would probably see me look towards a different leisure activity. I have seen people who have the Day Skipper certificate, but I wouldn't go out with them as the Skipper, even if you paid me. As we picked up our charter this Summer, only 2 berths away was a 1 year old Dufour 412 that had been ran aground at 8kts off Hamstead Point, IOW that same week. People were injured and the damage was significant. Apparently an 'experienced' skipper on-board. Why do people who are leisure cruising feel the need to come in close to the shallows? I think that people assume the seabed is flat without rocks or obstructions. Accidents do happen, but some are just down to incompetence.

[@HARRRYVID]

Thanks for showing us how real people are. Not everything is good but good people show.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Harry. Thank you so much for the kind words. It was devastating at the time. Now there is light at the end of the tunnel and we have decided to pause our charter business for 2021. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@Paul_Crosbie]

I am only a new subscriber to your channel but I really feel for you, much respect to both of you for the way you are handling the situation.

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks Paul, appreciated. I guess there are two ways to handle the situation, either get out and sell everything or crack on and fit it. I has been hard to deal with this, we have had many obstacles over the last year but we are getting to a good point now. Thanks for the comment, good to have you aboard. Cheers, Chris

[@twiper]

Omg ! But interesting to see if the repair will last. "Expedition Evans" is as many know also fixing up a similar damage.

[@SailingAurora]

Yup, OMG indeed. We are closely watching Expedition Evans and it will be interesting to compare the process to our repair company. I'm positive the repair will be good and she will be a better boat than before, these guys really know what they are doing. Cheers Tino

[@alisimmons2844]

@@SailingAurora From what I see of Expedition Evans, they have inherent build quality issues with their Beneteau - not 'just' impact damage from the grounding.

[@SailingAurora]

It seems like it, not so great for Beneteau as so many people are watching. I am interested to see what Plastskador (repair company) find down there when they start grinding

[@twiper]

@@SailingAurora I have seen some problems with jeanneau and beneteau regarding the mast and the construction around it. But think every boat brand has it's ups and downs. When Bavaria boats drop the keel it's due to delamination and not the keel bolts. Water is simply seeping into the laminate around the keel and weakens the hull which leads to a loose keel and in worst case the keel will drop. When "expedition evans" grind around in the bottom there is also water in the construction so nice to see they know what to look after when digging. I'm also excited to see what "plastskador" finds in your boat, but if the boat was lifted on land around when the damage was made I think the water intrusion into the laminate is minimal. If there is any water it will probably dry out over the winter on land.

[@twiper]

@@SailingAurora Sailing Zephyr has also some problems with there Beneteau regarding the construction, here is a point they get fixed multiple times : kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoWvmoGmYtqUbrc

[@MarcoChristensen]

I really feel your pain and you have convinced us not to charter our boat.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Marco. Thank you, and you have made the right decision. We are pausing our charter business for 2021. It's not worth the anxiety every time the boat is out, and the anger and tears when something happens. All the best, Chris & Tanja

[@sonvfave]

Love u guys and am excited for the new build Ive seen latter episodes

[@SailingAurora]

Thank you so much for the kind words Matthew. Stay safe and all the best, Chris & Tanja

[@brianlintonjones]

Have a nice weeks holiday on the Hanse 388 and I look forward to your views with your experience in your 418..cheers

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks Brian, it was a great holiday, now I just have to get on with the edit. Will be up hopefully next week. Cheers

[@gunnarlongitude4360]

Feel so sorry for you guys. As if 2020 couldn‘t get any worse. Hang in there, and best of luck!

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks very much. Just looking forward to next year now, its going to be much better i am sure

[@extasiasailing1076]

As tragic as this damage is, such a boat should be able to withstand a ground contact like this. For reasons of profit maximization, they refrain from building the keel-hull connection more stable. With a steel frame to which the keel is bolted, the boat would not have to be in the shipyard for weeks. The most experienced sailors can make mistakes and touch rocks.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi there. Don't think many boats, would have withstood an impact like this. And if you see look 4:48 min and see their track on the chart plotter you can see that this was due to a reckless skipper. Completely agree even the most experienced can make mistakes, but this was pure negligence. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@jonc919]

Really feel for you as seeing your pride and joy damaged must be so horrible, especially by such a stupid lack of concentration by the charter skipper. Good job they were in a well built Hanse as a lesser boat could of lost the keel, judging by the groves in the steel it was quite an impact. Good luck with the repairs and a reinforced Aurora will be in good shape for the next season. Take care.

[@SailingAurora]

Appreciated Jon, yup it shouldn't have happened and it was very annoying. True the hull did it's job and kept everything together, there was some water ingress at the time but I think it was due to the keel separating for a very short period of time and then resealing. The grooves in the solid iron keel do show there was one hell of an impact, I was a little shocked that they told me that it was very slow speed, but that's what every charterer who runs aground says apparently. I'm sure she will be great next year. We will be doing a mini series of the repair of Aurora so stay tuned :) Hope you guys are doing ok amid another lockdown over there. Cheers, Chris

[@jonc919]

Chris, Look forward to the mini series, will be very interesting. At the time of impact was it under sail? We have sails off and winterized early due to lockdown, certainly been an odd year! Stay safe, UK press still holding up Sweden as place to be in this pandemic!

[@carlobijnens2640]

It will be a lot of work but once finished you will have a stronger boat. Can understand the frustration, someone crashed you dream, they go home and you have a lot of work and always the feeling your boat was damaged. But as i said , looking forward is the spirit, the boat will be again in shape to let you enjoy :)

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks Carlo much appreciated. It's true, they can just walk away and basically it has really affected our whole year. I look forward to the repair process actually, it's gonna be such a good feeling when she comes out of the workshop. Cheers, Chris

[@edwinvanlint6791]

Hi there, what a said story about Aurora. I hope she will doing fine after a few Months. It is not nice to see an unhappy Chris and Tanja 😢. All the best 4U. Soon we will see her again dancing in the water. Goodluck with this project 👍

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks so much Edwin, yup it's sad, but since this video we have mostly gotten over it at least. We are just looking towards next year now, it's going to be great to get out on the water again. Cheers, Chris

[@mikepaton3614]

At least they were honest enough to tell you they had run aground. Imagine if they hadn't and you did go out on the boat, not worth thinking about. Good luck with the repairs.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Mike. Yes, we are glad that they told us that they had a grounding, but they lied about the speed:-( Thanks, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@brianlintonjones]

What a shame..looks pretty severe separation of the hull and inner liner..all the best with the repairs. Hang in there..

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks very much, yup its bad, keel will need to come off

[@davidclarke7728]

That is sad , we have chartered a few times and always felt to take more care than our own boat

[@SailingAurora]

Hi David. Yes that's how we felt as well, but unfortunately we have had quit the opposite experience. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@raymondslen693]

This video was really painful to watch. So sad to lose almost a full season of sailing, and so sad to see the beautiful boat in such a condition.

[@SailingAurora]

It's hard for us to watch again also, it was a hard summer for sure. Keep watching :) all is good now. Can't wait for summer again

[@ChasingLatitudes]

WOW I am super sorry to hear that, they absolutely hit at 5knts or more , they barreled into something for sure. That basically totals the boat:(

[@SailingAurora]

Yup we are too. The boat is far from totalled though, it will go into a workshop for a 3 month repair process. We are looking forward to documenting it

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@SailingAurora interesting 🧐, I’ve learned from you today the differences in where you are and America when it comes to what they consider totaled. Looking forward to seeing the repairs

[@SailingAurora]

​@@ChasingLatitudes thanks, yea we look forward to sharing it. I'm not too sure how it's going to go documenting it though as I will only be able to go down to the.boat once or twice a week but I will do my best.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@SailingAurora I’m looking forward to it, will be a nice comparison to Expedition E. I watched your video again after you commented on my video and now I believe you are correct. As you stated it’s about the exact same damage so I’m really looking forward to seeing what a professional boat years does. Your experience is why I never chartered mine before going to full time

[@SailingAurora]

@@ChasingLatitudes yup the chartering business.... we will do a video on this as well at some point to explain all the ups and downs

[@iansenior9759]

People never take care of someone else's property. I'd likewise be distraught to have a new boat damaged. I remember holidaying on those Greek island flotilla yachts and someone when mooring bows to the key rammed the bow onto the harbour wall. causing unwanted damage. For myself I'd prefer a long Keel with encapsulated internal ballast. Be a constant worry that the Keel was going to fall off. Hope the insurance covered the cost of repair.

[@SailingAurora]

I understand you completely, insurance covered everything 👌 I'm not worried about the keel falling off but there is a huge stress on the hull when grounding, that's for sure

[@captrandy3307]

This was gut wrenching to watch. I'm very sorry for both of you. I have a Beneteau 40 with similar construction, and grounding hard like this is my worst fear. Sadly, the reality is that people chartering boats can be extremely careless. I can understand an anchor dragging while you are sleeping and a boat grounding that way, but there is no excuse for what happened. I wish you much luck in getting your boat back soon better than new! BTW - documenting a professional and complete repair will pay off later when you need to sell the boat and it comes up as an objection to the purchase.

[@SailingAurora]

Hey Randy, thanks for the comment. Your right, with these boats, with the way they are build they are so rigid with no flex and the grid can crack away from the hull. As soon as they hit something hard something is going to give and yup it's a nightmare. Totally agree with you about the chartering and for the sake of our nerves we are having second thoughts about it. Good idea about the resale of the boat, thhe whole history of it is basically going to be on KZbin so that might be good for another owner. Right now though we don't have any plans to sell, just looking forward to next year.

[@Gieza-Brake-Pahl]

Means you should enjoy next year all the more when this is behind you.

[@SailingAurora]

Oh yes, we will be spending all the time we can on the boat next year. Sooo looking forward to that :)

[@markmcclary1637]

Whelp! I just did the exact same thing to my 10 meter sailboat. Now I need to decide if the repair is worth it on a 40 year old boat. Does your boat sail as well after the repair?

[@SailingAurora]

The boat if anything sails better after the repair as the boat is stiffer and does not flex as much. I hope you get your boat fixed

[@1962gms]

Just discovered your channel. Gutted for you, I can't believe that the Charterers didn't admit their error straight away and the Charter company tell you straight away. Hope you have better luck this year - fair winds

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Gary. Thank you, yes it was not a great experience, but now there is light at the end of the tunnel, and only a few months to the new season. And we are working on not having to charter the boat any more, so fingers crossed, this will be a better year. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@JelmerAchterkamp]

I have an 1975 Albin Ballad and run aground a few times hard myself. No cracks in de bilge or elsewhere. I think this is a design issue from Hanse.

[@SailingAurora]

Could be right. I'm guessing the Albin Ballad is fairly heavy for it's size though. Most boats would have a problem with a dead stop rock it though

[@latitudeash]

Subscribed as I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BOTH. WILL WATCH IT GETTING FIXED. LIKE THE EVENS HAVE DONE

[@SailingAurora]

Hi there. Thank you so much! Yes, it has been great to follow Evans, they did a great job! Best, Chris & Tanja

[@Sciolist]

Expedition Evans are doing similar repairs

[@SailingAurora]

Oh yes, we are watching them very closely to see how they are doing it etc. We will be doing a mini series on the repair with the repair company so it will be interesting to compare. Cheers

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Oh my god. This broke my heart.

[@SailingAurora]

Ours too, it was actually an emotional edit and not the most positive of episodes, but sometimes that's the way it is. Just looking forward to next year now, Stockholm is dark and gloomy so we are pretty jealous of you guys being in the med right now :) We hope it's going well with the work you are doing there

[@crashrc1175]

Did you get a SMS when they ran aground? I know you installed some device to alert you, did that work?

[@SailingAurora]

Actually not. I did test the ground sensor by tapping it with a hammer and it worked. I have no idea why it didn't detect this, not the best system in my opinion. Lucky we were notified and saw the damage etc.

[@philliporeilly901]

What a shame, that is a really big hit. These are very tough boats, Aurora will be shining again.

[@SailingAurora]

Yup, it really was a big hit. After listening to the professionals who fix this all the time, they all say they could be built stronger and they almost need a grounding so they can be repaired stronger. Looking forward to getting a stronger boat next year. We will do a mini series of the repair also. Cheers, Chris

[@RockyRacoon66]

Really? Just 10mm fibreglass hull on a 40 footer is paper thin. This is a light displacement hull. Sorry to hear of the troubles it must be devastating. Avoid deep fin keels with narrow necks, avoid spade rudders, avoid sail drives, and remember new is not always best. Take a look at a halsberg R

[@sueaxon1814]

Gutted for you both, hopefully the insurance has covered the cost? What happened to the grounding sensor? Did you get a notification that the boat had grounded?

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Sue, yup the insurance will cover the cost, so no worries there. The grounding sensor didn't tell us anything, which is really strange because I tapped it with a hammer to test it and it worked, I have no idea why it didn't with this kind of impact :( Lucky we got to know about it anyway. Thanks for your message. Cheers, Chris

[@HARRRYVID]

It seems it is not a good idea to charter a one or two year old boat. Maybe after that the economics both in tears and pocket get more appealing especially if you can start bilding your next new boat and have the old one on charter.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Harry. you are right, but chartering was a part of our financial plan to be able to pay off the boat quicker. We will definitely not be able to afford to buy a new boat. We will be pausing our charter business for 2021, and then we will have to see. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@jeffstryker5630]

This is another reason I would never buy a charter boat. No way to tell really how the boat has been treated. Even with the charter insurance which I assume is taking care of repairs, it's not worth it. Best of luck getting everything back to normal, and thanks for sharing,

[@SailingAurora]

H Jeff, don't blame you. II would be very skeptical of buying one used. Thanks for the comment, she will be sorted soon :)

[@rnunezc.4575]

Production boats are weak..careful and make sure your boat gets repaired professionally and reinforced as possible..

[@SailingAurora]

Hi R Nunez. The boat is in a professional workshop now, and you can follow the process from this episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/paCcn4OErcaFp5o. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@COM70]

Do you mind me asking who’s insurance pays ?

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Cathal. No, that perfectly fine. Our insurance is paying. As the boat is in our charter company, it has an insurance through the company that cover charter damages. Best, Chris & Tanja

[@angeloattard9748]

Oh you would still be sailing....see you next time

[@SailingAurora]

Yup we chartered another Hanse over the summer, soon to come up on the channel

[@matjam8305]

Charterers do not care. They only lose their deposit. I have experienced and seen things that boggle the mind. Last ridiculous event in a bay in Symi last fall - guide books says where and where not to anchor. They chose to anchor where not to. Early morning as they were trying to leave realized their anchor was hooked on rocks. Instead of gettin in the water they spent a long time tryibg to free it by going as fast as they could to pull the anchor out. Non stop gunning it until the boat came to a dead stop from the chain. The damage they inflicted on the new looking production boat all morning until they finally pulled out will be discovered in time. There is a reason many people avoid charter boats. Many issues have been suffered by us to steer clear of them. Good luck in your rebuild.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Mat. Thanks, yes we have seen time and time again that most charters really don't care. We even had charters that stole stuff from the boat, sometimes you really wonder...! We are working on never having to charter out Aurora again, for now chartering is paused for 2021. Take care, Chris & Tanja

[@svStargate]

Does this Hanse has an iron keel?

[@SailingAurora]

Hi there, yes it's a cast-iron keel. Best, Chris & Tanja

[@joelsaunders6696]

Bugger! heads up, 2020 almost over....

[@SailingAurora]

Haha, yes this year has sucked and should have been cancelled if I'm honest. Bring on 2021! Cheers

[@miketcq8]

Sad to see your baby end up like this. I would expect the insurance to write it off, just like the Expedition Evan's boat.....

[@SailingAurora]

Yea it was pretty heart breaking. The boat is almost brand new so the price of repair is way less than writing the boat off at the moment. I am keenly watching that channel, it's really good to watch and they are doing an awesome job

[@johnocallaghan9252]

The insurance company pays for the damage ?

[@SailingAurora]

Yes, it is covered by our charter insurance.

[@Jensen_Denmark]

Det er jeg sgu ked af at høre!

[@SailingAurora]

Hej Lars. Tak, ja det var virkelig en stor skuffelse for os, især efter alle problemerne omkring hvorvidt vi kunne beholde Aurora. Nu venter vi bare på at hun skal ind til reparation, som de forventer vil tage 2-3 måneder og så er hun klar til en ny sæson. Bedste hilsner Chris & Tanja

[@ChasingLatitudes]

This is why I would never put my boat in charter, I understand why people do it as the boat can pay for itself but just like you said one mistake and boom boat destroyed

[@SailingAurora]

I know how you feel, watch this space, we are deciding at the moment if it's worth carrying on with the charter. It's probably going to be a no, we just couldn't go through this again.

[@angeloattard9748]

So sorry! Was gseting used to you people ...

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Angelo, thanks. No worries though, we have plenty of stuff to show and I plan to do a mini series on the repair over the winter. We will be back sailing again next year :)

[@angeloattard9748]

@@SailingAurora looking forward to your next. I enjoy your vlogs you give me what i like seeing...views and sailing...no wishy washy eye candy of you know what i mean

[@SailingAurora]

@@angeloattard9748 haha, I know what you mean. Thanks

[@formiche100]

sorry for you,

[@SailingAurora]

Thanks, Aurora will be stronger next year :)

[@rogerboork8092]

You just live the worst of worst nightmares. Still sailing our long keel "Marieholm 32E" and have no near the danger of sailing on ground. But with that said, you are living my nightmare of hitting the rocky bottom of the sea. This must hurt you financially as well, right? No income and huge insurance to pay I suppose? Or how does that work in a situation like this? So typical for a Swede to talk money in a situation like this, I hope you understand though. All the best and fingers crossed. /// "Boorken"..

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Roger, no worries, I would be curious too! Yes it was pretty heartbreaking as you probably saw, I would not wish this to happen to anyone. As for the financials, the insurance down payment was covered through the charter deposit. As for the loss of income, loss of the summer on the boat and the cost of renting a boat for a week, this was not covered. So the situation was not good at all. Sooner or later we will do a video covering how chartering works and the up's and downs etc. I'm sure it will be fine next year, watch this space, Skål, Chris

[@johnryan2193]

People who charter do NOT GIVE A DAMN about your property .they were probably drunk .! Can you sue them ?

[@SailingAurora]

Hi John, unfortunately not, we just had to let the insurance take care of us

[@philbox4566]

Well I hope old mate who ran the boat aground is going to pay for the lost season plus the repairs. If not then why not? By the looks of that track there was no one at the wheel. All partying and drunk I reckon.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Phil. It's our insurance covering for the repair, and the self risk is covered by the deposit the charters paid upon taking the boat out. it was reckless yes, but don't think this was due to drinking and partying, it was a family with their kids. It's our insurance that is covering because that's how the charter contracts works. All the best, Chris & Tanja

[@philbox4566]

@@SailingAurora Glad to see it's all covered then. Looking forward to seeing you guys back in the water.

[@johnocallaghan9252]

The charterer had no respect for the boat because he didn’t own it.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi John. Exactly, this is why we are pausing the chartering, and hopefully can get fully out. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@MyBoatandMylife]

I feel sorry for you.

[@SailingAurora]

Tack. She will be stronger and better next year, in November it seems so far away though. Just looking forward to next summer now :)

[@mitch_the_-itch]

Would this boat now be considered a Salvage? If you sold this boat would you even have to tell the buyer? My heart goes out to both of you. Very painful Im sure. How apologetic was the guy? Enough to buy the boat from you so you can buy a new one? Or just the other kind of apology, where the perp gets to virtue signal away responsibility so he feels better, not so much about you at all ;) Now everyone that owns an insurance policy will be forced to collectively pay for the recklessness of one person. This is why Communism doesn't work either, lol.

[@SailingAurora]

Hi Mitchel. The damage assessment of the boat did not deem it to ba a salvage. But admitted we have had the same thoughts due to the extend of the damages. Yes, we would tell a potential buyer, but we really love our boat, so there is hopefully now selling her anytime soon. The charterer did apologies, but also lied and said that they haden't been going very fast when the grounding happened, which have later been assessed was not true. Cheers, Chris & Tanja

[@mitch_the_-itch]

@@SailingAurora Makes me wonder what it actually takes for a boat to become a salvage title? All that really matters is that you enjoy your boat in anyway you deem fit. Aurora looks much happier lately and that seems to reflect on the owners ;)

[@sailingwind326]

That was totally irresponsible sorry for you guys I would put there names out there sorry but I would that's what give something good a bad taste in everyone's mouth because of stupidity

[@SailingAurora]

Hi there. Thank you for your kind words. Completely understand what you are saying, and it is tempting, but that could potentially cause us a lot of problems for us. If we ever charter Aurora out, hopefully not, they are however blacklisted from our boat, along with another group that stole items from the boat! Stay safe, Chris & Tanja