EPIC Livestream Flypack breakdown

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

I'm in the process of building an A/V rack after early this year getting fed up messing around with cascaded Atem Mini Pro + Extreme. I started with 8U ... then 10U .. then 14U, then added the 10U back in .... ended up with a 16U + 10U support rack. These things take on a life of their own, when you start building them.

[@spellbindertv]

Ain’t that the truth! Since I made this vid the racks been through a few more iterations… never quite satisfied. Always looking to find ways to improve. There’s no one size fits all, so now I go a bit more modular but having most of the key components in 12U! Nice one thanks for the comment ☝️

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

@@spellbindertv I have the main components in a 16U rack. (Thon 600 series). Optionals in said 10U rack (Gator) and I'm then re-using the Thon 600 14U rack, that I've just ran out of space in as an audio rack. Going to make a video of it after that. I reckon, I have it, where I want it now. 14 camera feeds (12 SDI or fibre, 2 HDMI or fibre), a Mac Mini M2 Pro for graphics and Zoom, Companion, MixEffect Pro, Middle Things and management, a GoWin i3-N305 rackmounted NUC for some other stuff. Most everything else Blackmagic.

[@spellbindertv]

@@EmeraldAudiovisual beautiful! I’ve moved away from NDI for a lot of stuff, mainly camera feeds. Still use a lot of NDI but not for main feeds. Depending on the kinds of jobs I do next year then SDI>fibre is on the cards but quite what solution I go for tbc! Needs to be 12g for UHD in the mid term for sure.

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

@@spellbindertv The SFP variants of the new Blackmagic 2110 IP converters accepts both the traditional 12G SDI SFPs and 10Gbit/s ethernet SFP+ adapters. I've already bought a couple of the new Talkback ones and they work perfectly with the older Talkback Studio 4K converter using 12G SDI SFP modules. They basically made the new converters backwards compatible.

[@allout_fun]

I am really glad I found this page / channel

[@lukewalker3905]

Great on the video side but what are you doing for audio? I couldn't see a rack mount QU SB or similar in there, protools with Dante, just the onboard simple ATEM mixer, what's the go?

[@spellbindertv]

Hey Luke, great question and well spotted! I haven’t quite found an onboard solution I like yet that fits the bill but there is space in the main rack… for now audio into VMix is handled by a Flow 8 which is also used to send the PGM audio to the Dante comms. Alternatively when part of a bigger crew it’s via Avio adapter and Dante. I’d like to add a RedNet card to the VMix for maximum flexibility and robustness in the future. With the ATEM I’ve got the 2 1/4” inputs on the rear panel for analogue input and these can come via the Flow8 for splitting to the comms as well.

[@spellbindertv]

Further update. I’ve added a Dante RedNet card to the VMix so that’s now handling audio io. Analogue audio inputs to Dante are on the Glensound R8, or an external Dante Convertor.

[@ivansamokhin2750]

Building a constellation 2me flypack now - thanks for the inspirational content!

[@spellbindertv]

Hey Ivan! Thanks so much for the comment… great work. Yeah a great little project 🤓

[@laurasherriff9473]

Super cool video, thanks for sharing

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks for the visit!

[@lacevvood1]

Great stuff!

[@spellbindertv]

Thank you!

[@ChiefNonsense]

Awesome execution. Well done.

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks a lot! Done a few tweaks since this video and planning on creating some more content around that soon…

[@MrandMrsDIY]

Amazing bit of kit and great video thanks for sharing, looking forward to the next

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks 👍

[@MrDIYCraigPhillips]

Brilliant video Ben, very informative, many thanks for sharing

[@spellbindertv]

Glad you enjoyed it! Next one’s in production 👍🏻

[@philpritchard5173]

Amazing. Thx for sharing. What is a 4U or 12 U box?

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks Phil… U stands for unit. So 4RU is 4 rack units and refers to the number of pieces of standard 19” width rack gear you can fit in each rack. Common sizes are 3,4, 6, 9, 12, 24, 48U and so forth.

[@61audio61]

Amazing! I didn’t see this Bonding solution ( Intinor ) and I would like to see a video testing. :))))❤

[@spellbindertv]

Hi thanks… yes it’s very good. Using their own Bifrost protocol. Have a look at intinor’s channel, they have some excellent demos of bonding / de bonding transmission. You can also use KA Sat with the solution together with 3G and 4G sims and x2 ISPs. ⚒️

[@svenlakemeier]

Why is the audio volume so low on this video? What loudness target do you have in your workflow?

[@spellbindertv]

This is at -10dB. In hindsight when watched on a tv compared to other YT content it could be louder so I’ll be mastering the audio louder on future content. Thanks!

[@gil_carter]

Great build! How do you find the noise level from the racks? I've got a very similar fly rack build with BM switchers and Netgear M4250 switches, and the fans in the 4250 switches just roar along when things get warm. The racks are too loud to have in the same room as presenters... 😕

[@spellbindertv]

Cheers Gil. Yes after a few hours the ATEM rack can get a bit loud. However, have you ever heard an iNTINOR? The fans in there are pretty hefty!! So tend to drown out the noise from the switches… probably 90% of my work it’s never an issue as tend to have separation for the gallery and studio space. Could put it all in a 6U shock mount which would be space for fans and allow for cooling around the gear but then it would be massive to transport and move… the idea was just to have a 4U box that can do quick SDI setups where there’s not a lot of need for graphics and snazzy stuff… just a solid way to switch cameras and output signals.

[@gil_carter]

@@spellbindertv thanks - it's a luxury to have enough scale to have gear away from presenters! The 4U box is a good size too.

[@EvanDiDio]

Beautiful!

[@spellbindertv]

Thank you! Always learning and wanting to improve :-)

[@maciej.hachlica]

decent setup, mate!

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks man! Done a few updates since this video so will be posting a new video soon!

[@MichaelNatrin]

Impressive!

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks for the comment Michael! Always learning and always trying to improve 😃

[@jackbarraball1253]

looks really good. Would also love to see more about the Intinor! as was getting a little confused while trying to navigate their website. do you use it to transport the video feed back to a studio ? or do you connect it to a metwork switch/router for bonding a network connection to be able to broadcast to say youtube etc ?

[@spellbindertv]

Hey Jack, thanks man. Maybe I can do something on that specifically at some point. I agree the products can be somewhat confusing because they have 3 main units but basically you can configure the hardware and software depending on your needs. They are great pieces of hardware, but essentially linux machines which run thieir software. The Direkt Link is principally just an encoder used to send video, be that via RTMP, SRT, Bi-frost (iNTINOR's own transport protocol for bonding) or RIST etc, though it can also pull feeds. They are often used as point to point video transmission via the internet. In this workflow you have a sending encoder (Direkt Link) and a Router (studio) to receive and redistribute the feed ie. output it as SDI or recieve multiple incoming feeds. So you can purchase your own hardware for bonding and debonding / video transmission. Hope that helps :)

[@jackbarraball1253]

@@spellbindertv thanks for that man! yeah if i'm totally honest their website is a little difficult to try and understand at times. very helpful. would the Hamidall work if configures as a celular bonded router on its own? in a rack environment. giving my computer a stable connection to the internet. i'm in the development stage. what i am trying to get is a solution for running remote srt ( or ideally NDI ! ) feeds for my camera source to my computer over a cellular bonded encoder unit ( i think thats the right phrase for it hah) a little complicated i know! but with NDI 5 i think it opens up new possibilities for workflows . would also love to know what the actual cost of these units are

[@JohnPretto]

Brilliant!

[@spellbindertv]

Thank you John!

[@rhonimohanraj]

Hello from canada! Do you have a calendly link for me to setup a 30 minute chat to pick your brain about a system we are building? Thank you!

[@spellbindertv]

Hi there! Thanks for your support. I’m fully booked on productions for the next couple of weeks. But drop me an email [e-mail]

[@FlatLineStudios]

Nice Build! I Just build a case, but after watching this may make a smaller video only case for portability.

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks for the comment… delayed reply sorry… but since making this video I actually reverted to having the switched in the main rack as I did v few jobs with the small rack and always missed having everything! Planning on some more content and config changes soon, thanks!

[@samgonza1975]

Thousands of $$ in the system….. Doesn’t have a mic stand… 🤦‍♂️ 😂 😂 Great video. 👍

[@spellbindertv]

And the award for best comment on this video goes to you! 🤣🤣 I promise a proper mic and another video soon…

[@collokhadambi]

hi how you. how much would it cost if i want to import one of this rack for live streaming

[@spellbindertv]

Hi sorry for slow response… currently this is just a bespoke solution for our productions but drop me an email at [e-mail]

[@Oneloudest]

Blue powercon should never be connected "HOT", it should always be disconnected from the power source when making the connection, as it's pins can arc before grounded. The revised version, Powercon True1 connectors, black with yellow tabs, ARE designed to be connected while hot.

[@spellbindertv]

The “hot” power in is referring to non UPS protected input, ie venue, studio or stage power. The rack is connected without the mains power source being live and then switched on. The loop out enables kit that does not require UPS protection to be supplied power.

[@carlosfrancogonzalez]

Pelase make more videos 😊

[@spellbindertv]

Thanks Carlos… currently in planning with a few ideas! So watch this space. I want to put out some interesting content that appeals. Let me know what else in terms of live stuff and or this system you’d be interested in seeing.

[@bitrage.]

Hmm ok send me a system for review.....😉😉

[@spellbindertv]

Ha I can build you one! What you wanna see that’s not in this vid?

[@bitrage.]

@Spellbinder lol I was just just trying to getva free "sample" for review!!😋... how much of the system is proprietary, and how much is off the shelf parts?

[@spellbindertv]

@@bitrage. ha yeah it’s not that kind of a build! Most of it is off the shelf. The ATEM rack I built the patch panels for using Penn Elcom bits, the main rack panels were custom made and I soldered the audio connections throughout. Cases are also custom so it’s pretty bespoke but all off the shelf. Thanks

[@vkytb24]

I don't know man.... 👉Volume / Normalized 100% / 100% (content loudness -16.1dB)

[@daltonrandall4348]

Don't call your own builds "epic," that's arrogant af.

[@spellbindertv]

The Epic in the title is referring to the video mate not the build. Which I’m always looking to improve and indeed have since this video was made, but thanks for taking the time to comment.