Epic Mickey: Too Close to the Sun

[@HorridVO]

UPDATE: I recently made a big follow-up video to this one, so If you wanna hear more of my thoughts on the Epic Mickey series take a look! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoSbioRojdGIa5I

[@ToonsInk.]

Welp. Guess Epic Mickey can finally fix that camera

[@SlayCap]

Fun fact: The Japanese version of the game actually fixes things like the camera and a few bugs while also adding new dialogue and changing the lighting to be brighter.

[@SlayCap]

It also allows the option to skip projectors entirely if you've already went through one

[@HorridVO]

I knew about the camera fix in the Japanese version but not those other things. Very cool to learn about, thank you!

[@Semy_04]

@@HorridVO I wish it was in the final version...

[@widerekxxanimations6842]

@@SlayCap that's actually really cool wtf-

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

What!

[@magolor-3100]

GOOD NEWS

[@cannongod6523]

WE GETTING REMAKE BOYS

[@dinodog14]

1 year later and we actually got the remaster we all wanted

[@CadDriftarus]

Not even a remaster, looks like it's a full remake. Of course, they could still make the mistake of making it _too_ close to the original.

[@Poyostar]

It's a real shame that Epic Mickey is by no means a perfect game, because it's just so charming. Plus, it's also the game that introduced me to Oswald The Lucky Rabbit, who still stands as my favorite Disney character of all time. I truly do hope that Disney decides to revitalize this series in one way or another, as unlikely as it is. All in all, this was a great watch!

[@sebastianpereyra5629]

Well I got news for you

[@Poyostar]

@@sebastianpereyra5629 And the news in question is very happy news, indeed...!

[@lokotro019]

especially epic mickey twoooo I want to play as oswald. as the younger brother i would always play as him

[@sweetpea644]

Can't wait for the remake, a fresh coat of paint on a unique Disney story is what Epic Mickey deserves.

[@cooperwolfe5478]

I can’t wait I’ve saved the game guide for all these years in case a remake or remaster ever was made and I’m so glad I kept it.

[@SHMidlerPlays]

In case you didn’t know this yet, the version of Smee we see in the Epic Mickey games is actually an unused version of Smee from the movie where the color of his hat and shirt were swapped around and the versions of Horus Horsecollar and Clarabelle Cow are the 1930s counterparts which are actually pretty different from their modern day versions. Just thought I would put this out here just in case you didn’t already know this, also back in the 2000s and early 2010s Disney was not really using Horus or Clarabelle for much. Part of this game series mission was actually to bring these old forgotten Disney characters back to the public awareness which did sort of work if you think about it. And as to why Peg Leg Pete is there, back in the 1990s and the 2000s Disney stopped using the Peg Leg Pete design and gave him two feet. They did this cause of some controversy thing with his peg leg or something, if someone knows more about this part please tell me. Apart from this stuff though, the video is excellent.

[@cinnamonsakura1418]

When you began talking about the character interactions and how it sells the story, it made me think about how in the novel written for the first game (It's like one of those movie novels for kids; very short read if you have time to spare and entertaining), Mickey is way different from his game counterpart. While meeting Oswald in game, he's mostly silent and doesn't say much except to ask for help and be reminded of his thinner mistake, but, in the novel, he is slightly sassy towards Oswald, still somewhat polite but at the same time, he gives off "I'm gonna slam this rabbit's head into a table if he doesn't just tell me how to get home since he's being stubborn and obviously knows where the heck the parts to his rocket are." Vibes, his interaction with Oswald more akin to siblings being petty rather than "strangers" who just met. Oswald is mostly the same as his game counterpart, but also has the added cockiness and sass as well, even seeming to deliberately rile Mickey up so they can brawl, tho, Gus immediately shuts that down before it can begin. Overall, the characters (mainly Oswald, Mickey and Gus and possibly the Mad Doctor) have major chemistry that makes me laugh and smile and cry all in one, no matter the platform Epic Mickey is displayed as.

[@BelBelle468]

Would’ve been nice to incorporate some of that into the thinner route

[@widerekxxanimations6842]

Poor poor epic mickey 2, it really is a shame that it didn't got the the time be actually finished, I hope if we ever get a remake I hope they remake the games, the most changes would propobably need to be made in the second game

[@Nsloan456]

We’ll go news lol

[@widerekxxanimations6842]

@@Nsloan456 yup, I really do hope they'll remake epic mickey 2

[@365ral]

I gotta say, as great as the story is, it missed a LOT of potential. The emotion could've hit even harder if we spent more time with Oswald, slowed down the cutscenes (especially in Mickeyjunk), and saw more about how he and Mickey felt about Walt. The two lead very different lives with their dad, but they still love and miss him a lot. That alone could've made them see each other in a whole new light. Also, Mickey seriously UNDER-reacted to causing the Thinner Disaster. He practically unleashed Roger Rabbit Dip on lots of innocent toons, including Walt's 1st cartoon star, but all he says is "It's not important?!"

[@Couch_Banana]

I think he only said that to avoid talking about it because he was still processing it at the time.

[@365ral]

@@Couch_Banana That, and it would’ve conflicted with the game’s morality system; mainly if you chose the Thinner route. One minute, you’re remorseful for causing the Thinner Disaster, but the next, you’re thinning everything?

[@Couch_Banana]

@@365ral Makes sense. This game really needed more time in the oven.

[@mip1123]

Plus the fact they actually could have created 2 patches game story, as it was planned since the start with the idea of thinner and paint, instead of a badly made evil ending that sounds more like a "good ending badly writed" and a good ending that is not that different from the bad one, despite the fact that Mickey do "evil things" andit in fact doesnt change the story as the lightest

[@BelBelle468]

@@365ral I think that’s why they removed the different Mickey’s (hero versus scrapper). Maybe they’ll do something more with it in the remake?

[@Dylan_-tu7zk]

I think the best way to describe the gameplay in the original game is that all three of its gameplay styles-Platformer, Action Adventure, and Immersive Sim- all have really cool moments that stand out on occasion, but they aren’t frequent enough to form a cohesive whole. I think just basic tweaks to the game would’ve improved it A LOT. And that is coming from someone who has over 1000 hours in this game. No, you didn’t read that wrong, I’ve played this game for an ungodly amount of time since I was 5.

[@SNESJerry]

You know something Mickey is gonna be solid/actually good if they use his classic design

[@wackinghour]

This is the best written epic Mickey analysis I've seen! (2nd place to pastra ofc), it ties in EVERYTHING in a rather short amount of time! I had been watching it, waiting, and ALMOST typing something you didn't cover, but it's all there! Well, minus the fact junction point shutdown, but whatever, but this deserves so much more views and likes than it does as of now!

[@HorridVO]

aw thank you so much! it's a shame about junction point really. i hope warren gets to do something with epic mickey again someday

[@rehaansiddiqie]

I don't think anybody talks about how GOOD Mickey controls. He feels so tight and snappy and awesome to me. Only thing I do not like is his turning and speed, but his air control is just PERFECT.

[@CadDriftarus]

Mickey feels great to play, honestly. Expecially compared to newer games where I felt the controls kept fighting me all the time, like BotW or other open world games. The only nitpick I have is how he'll kinda just slip off edge sometimes, but that can also be blamed on the rather poor lighting at times.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

I haven't dug into the remake yet because they decided to release it right before Zelda, but I played the demo and he's definitely noticeably floatier in it based on the demo. Looking forward to playing it

[@felixleidig8307]

pete in mickey epic has his peg leg...which really makes him a forgotten char cause newer pete never had the peg leg anymore ..

[@ozieluniverse3674]

he flew to close but now... it's a fenix

[@ktoon4725]

I genuinely am hoping with baited breath that this game can get a remaster or remake one day. This game shaped a lot about me and even with its very clear flaws it’s one of my favorite games. Though yeah I definitely agree with the idea that it’s more fun to talk about the game than it is to actually play it. (Edit: Guess I can wait no longer since a full on remake was announced.)

[@damnfellas8637]

Might seem crazy about what I’m about to say

[@bradleyadams5252]

Well, you will be very happy if you check the nintendo direct's roster!

[@DataHayseed]

It's coming out to all consoles

[@BelBelle468]

So…how ya doing? Fr tho, I felt the same way. So hyped that it’s actually happening.

[@ktoon4725]

@@damnfellas8637sunshine, she’s here, you can take a break

[@sometf2player752]

25:51 well you got what you wished for

[@RamblePrism]

5:37 I REMEMBER THAT SHORT! Loved watching that as a kid! Oh my god I can't believe you had to explain who Roald Dahl is, I feel so O L D Know that your Epic Mickey 2 slander is acknowledged and appreciated Flipping great video man! I can see why it took a lot of time, you definitely knocked it out of the park though 👍

[@HorridVO]

mickey's trailer is one of my favorites too, one of the mouse's best. thanks for the kind words as well!

[@RamblePrism]

@@HorridVO Can you open the next video with "Hey y'all Heayn here"

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Modern Day Icarus? Is it a modern day Adult Icarus or a modern Day Kid Icarus?

[@HorridVO]

I guess with the remake being announced you could call it a modern day uprising!

[@ewoutverheij4745]

Loved the video I can’t get enough of discussions around this game, a ducktales game was also supposedly to be set in the epic mickey universe interestingly enough.

[@Hynotama]

Fear not good man! They’re actually remaking the first game. It’s gonna be remade in Unity and on the visual side it shows. It looks way better than before. And apparently there will be movement options added to the game, such as a ground pound and a sprint. Camera will probably be better too. I can’t wait for it to come out. I’ve been wanting to play this game for years, but it was stuck on the grandma console.

[@greenlight385]

the game is remake in unreal

[@Hynotama]

@@greenlight385 that’s what I meant to say, but for some reason my brain went to Unity.

[@BelBelle468]

I believe it’s been remade in Unreal Engine actually ?

[@Hynotama]

@@BelBelle468 yes, I mistakenly typed Unity instead of Unreal.

[@cargo_pants6514]

good video, I live in Anaheim so I have lots of good memories of going to disneyland then coming back home to play this game as a kid, that being said, I tried to play it again, and it's definitely missing a few marks.

[@LukeTheFantasticMii]

Actually. Clarabelle's design for the game was never used in any media. her Design is rumored to be an unused design from a really long time ago.

[@javtendogaming9109]

Disney has done something great!!

[@MsBroadway209]

That Mad Doctor fight in the first Epic Mickey was the start of some of my rage quitting lol

[@PltnmFrog7000]

You probably didn't notice actually based on your decisions if you choose right or wrong it can actually affect the music of areas characters body language and the populations of certain towns

[@HorridVO]

oh wow, that is a neat little detail that i never noticed. thanks for bringing it to my attention!

[@AikoTanakz]

POV: Epic Mickey Rebrushed

[@ShadwSonic]

"Smee is definitely recognizeable" True, but apparently _this_ Smee is using pre-production concept design instead of the official one. His clothing colors are swapped you see.

[@HorridVO]

huh, that's a neat detail i didn't know about! thank you!

[@K0R4UPT_N01Z3]

I loved these games so unbelievably much. I wish Disney would bring it back and let the og creators do whatever they wanted. These are some of my favorite games of all time and knowing that we won't even get the simplest thing such as ports to modern consoles, it sucks. This series will most likely be forgotten by everyone. And the worst part? Maybe I'm being overly emotional, idk I don't usually tend to act like this but knowing that this series will never ever return? *It fucking hurts.*

[@littleweird4807]

Boy do I have news for you

[@DaveBorer]

​@@littleweird4807Who's gonna tell him the incredible news!!

[@BelBelle468]

According to Warren Spector, he’s been kept in the know with how the remake of the game has progressing. And some of the old devs are working on the remake, along with the new studio. I hope that means the remake will expand on some of the things the game needs, esp with how it focuses on the “different endings”.

[@MysteryToonGamer]

Although Epic Mickey is my favorite video game of all time, you had some good points about some of its drawbacks, even if I disagree on how big you presented the drawbacks. Despite that, a very in-depth and good review and analysis! I can definitely tell you admired the passion that went into the game and did your research on its conception and development. My only advice is for future videos, to start with the bad and end on the good. The lasting impression I got from this video is that you thought the game is terrible, which I know you stated that you do really like it. It's just the energy of a video, and whatever take you leave off on is what is going to leave the most lasting impression on your audience. Great video, nonetheless! Even the fact that you start with music from No Straight Roads shows you have good taste, and I respect that XD (And at least we can all collectively agree on Epic Mickey 2).

[@vorpal6685]

We won

[@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

Your channel deserves way more recognition than it gets. This is some excellent work, you've earned a sub from me. I agree that the gameplay is incredibly weak by today's standards and that's why I'm so happy it's getting a remaster new, with the chance to fix all of those gameplay issues.

[@fillyfoxtm]

A thing that I keep seeing people miss for the first Epic Mickey game is that it took place on Mickey’s Birthday (November 18th) So this probably Mickey’s craziest birthday ever lmaoo

[@red-man7017]

The version of smee that appears in epic mickey 1 and 2 actually IS an unused version of the character, the final design of the character is color swapped from the one in the game

[@nekogamer2508]

How would this fit into kingdom hearts , the forgotten are essentially heartless keeping their forms

[@CadDriftarus]

Kingdom Hearts is what happens when Mickey spills liquid Darkness™ instead of Thinner.

[@JoshingYa]

I'd be very interested in that Mickey shorts retrospective series if you're not busy with other projects.

[@HorridVO]

someday! maybe not someday soon, but someday!

[@emashane7035]

You know they said for the remake that they are adding some movement mechanics to mickey I wonder if they might bring back the actual morality system

[@cooperwolfe5478]

I hope so. I think that was lost in the 2nd game when you could continue playing after you complete the main story. Which I feel hurt the morality system.

[@emashane7035]

@@cooperwolfe5478 the plot of the second game went with the bad ending which is absolutely fucking stupid

[@cooperwolfe5478]

I agree with you on the boss battles the one where you fight animatronic Hook is great and is really challenging if you take the paint path

[@fizzpopboom]

LETS GOOOO

[@tvgaming_2440]

Howdy, great job on this video, you mention points and details on the game that I haven’t heard reviews talking about. Keep up the work, and you just got a sub

[@segasatsakura7581]

GUESS WHAT BABY. FULL. REMAKE. FULL REMAKE. FULLY REAINMATED?? NEW ASSETS?? EVERYTHING LOOKS SO GOOD I'M SO EXCITED

[@maynuva1809]

I still remember when I got this game because it came out right after my parents took me to Disneyland for the first time in 2010. My favorite ride by far was Its a small world. I was barely 7 and still innocent to the world, seeing all nations dance and sing in unison really resonated with me and I forced my poor mom to go on it 5 times in a row haha. When you get to the messed up Disneyland park in Epic Mickey it genuienly shook me to the core. Of course nowadays the game isn't scary but as a child it was horrific. Coming from the happiest place on earth to a twisted reality with missing eyes dumbos and a small world with poison water and horror music messed me up 💀

[@Marty-ru2qz]

This game is everything to me, thank you for posting about this.

[@newtzrcool]

4:35 holy shit dude the way i started pogging at the ape escape music. oh my hod im not sure why but hearing any reference to ape escape (especaillyt ae3) makes me unreasonably happy EDIT: also hearing you talk about the DUcktales remaster was also awesome. The game is really fun (I hyperfixated on it late last summer and played through the entire thing haha) and I ADORE the soundtrack. The songs are bangers and I downloaded it immediately after playing. I also had the game on Wii U and played the entire thing in one sitting years after getting it haha

[@HorridVO]

ah a fellow ape escape fan. good taste!

[@lostsoul89_]

i played this game as a kid, and i struggled but i loved this game so much. great video, keep it up!

[@Giggles_iJest]

You're saying "I can't in good faith" a lot in this vid

[@ChipFanXO]

EPIC MICKEY IS THE BEST GAME ON THE WII

[@ArlesProductions]

I wouldn’t say the best game on the Wii but definitely the best third party game on the wii

[@CadDriftarus]

Definitely the best Third Party game, but I'm way too attatched to Skyward Sword, Brawl, Super Paper Mario, etc, to say it's the best Wii game.

[@Evan.280]

WE’RE GETTING A REMAKE BOIS

[@BloxburgBasketball_Network]

I forgot which specific month and year it’s from but fairly recently they talked about Oswald in a sports illustrated magazine. They legit said he was on the Disney character bench

[@dominicburch2374]

Is it just me, or did Ortensia look more like a female version of Felix the cat than anything else back in the 20's?

[@MysteryToonGamer]

Cartoon cats were all the rage back then, which is why Oswald was specifically made as a rabbit instead so that he wasn't "just another cartoon cat". But then they brought in a cat for his love interest towards the end of the series, lol

[@dominicburch2374]

@@MysteryToonGamer interesting

[@odderoutlet]

the minute I heard NSR play in the background I knew this would be a good vid

[@jackmorris2220]

How do you only have 474 subscribers this review is better then some bigger channels

[@B.Toast10]

An easy way the morality system could’ve been fixed was just making either paint or thinner more powerful at erasing/filling depending on the route, bringing the scrapper and hero mickey concepts back, and making it so for the thinner route, the blot is indeed defeated but ortensia is not reverted back to normal, mickey is noticeably more mad than sorry towards yen sid, and oswald and the rest of the characters are just very mad with the conditions mickey left wasteland in.

[@jarrellfamily1422]

The camera is usually a complaint in any 3d platformers especially older ones

[@pro-gamer7391]

25:46: I would honestly love to see a remake. Purple Lamp and THQ Nordic: *Allow us to introduce ourselves.*

[@dragonrobot1008]

I remember saving my birthday money to buy this game at Toys R Us

[@MyEcho4]

Thats....not what happened to Oswald. Walt went to renew his contact and Universal said no and took most of his staff with them. There was nothing about oil or him getting tired of working for them, he lost Oswald because of them

[@theghostwiththemost789]

I grew up on the 3DS. I’ve never played any of the two mainline games but with the recent announcement of the remaster of the first game I’m thinking about picking it up. I’ve seen a lot of videos about the first game, but I barely ever hear anybody mention the second game or the 3DS one. At first I thought it was because the second game was just bad but people love to complain on the Internet. How is there Not a three hour retrospective about how bad the second game is? And the 3DS game is honestly pretty decent, so I’m not sure why no one talks about that. I guess it’s only the first game people care to talk about. I think it would be cool if they added voice acting to the first game to make the emotional cut scenes hit even harder

[@Redder_Creeps]

Honestly i get why the camera is a major issue everyone talks about, but lately I've been replaying Epic Mickey 1 on the Wii and somehow, I actually don't really have any problems with it, just a nitpick about it that feels a bit bad. You know how the 'C' button centers your camera behind Mickey? Well, for some reason everytime you center the camera, Mickey comes to a full stop IF you're moving. Every single time. While i get why some people wouldn't like controlling the camera like this if Mickey didn't stop in his tracks when it happens, it's probably the best option you have aside the remote's D-Pad

[@RalseiFan]

ngl i thought this video was made by like some big 100k+ subscriber channel, its a really well made video :D

[@HorridVO]

thank you!

[@STEELZ2000]

SO, ABOUT THAT

[@Damon_Blue]

Sorry I'm late but I'd also like to add that this game has an incredible soundtrack in my opinion.

[@dominicburch2374]

I like every single track from the remastered Ducktales Games. But the Amazon track is also my favorite.

[@barelyhere7200]

The 3DS epic Mickey is pretty decent. It’s not a masterpiece or anything but it’s fun for what it is. I recommend it if you haven’t played it

[@magicvalgirl]

11:54 , 12:11 - 12:15 : AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT SHOULD BE IN KINGDOM HEARTS! Great video!

[@TheYodelingViking]

I had no issues with the controls or the camera at all. I do agree though that the morality system was a missed oppurtunity, but that was due to how limited they were with the Wii and had to cut content including an intended Alice In Wonderland section. I do have high hopes for the remake. Especially with leaks showing multiple outfits.

[@thewindwakinghero7423]

Revive them, take them from the sun, save them, PLEASE!

[@Merc_507]

REBRUSHED IS COMING OUT

[@shadowsnake5133]

I mean, gonna nit pick here, but steam boat whiley was not the first cartoon with sound, not by a long shot. It's the first to take off, yes, but it's not the first by a good i think it was 10 years.

[@CadDriftarus]

I love this game so much, but it definitely has its flaws. I am hoping the remake isn't 100% faithful like it's being advertised, because what this game needs is a good mix of faithfulness and innovation. I still pull it out to play every few years, but for whatever reason, the World of Gremlins is always a test to get through without a bit of burnout. I also didn't grow up with Disney World, so I had no knowledge whatsoever of the world the Wasteland is based on. The Wasteland is so well themed and designed it feels amazing and immersive to explore even without prior awareness of the parks. And seeing what current WDW is like, this is still my preferred version lol I will stand by Oswald being the only good investment Iger ever made, I will die on this hill.

[@cooperwolfe5478]

I think that one of the biggest changes I hope is in the remake (though I doubt it) is that they eventually incorporate elements from forgotten Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars elements.

[@vanguardluard8334]

Won't it's a remaster not a remake the game will be the same just graphs improved and controls changed to let these new controlers to work with it

[@AbbyMizuki]

I'm SHOCKED this has as little views as it has, i feel guilty watching this for free tbh

[@HorridVO]

aw thank you so much!

[@skellington15]

*whistles familiar demonic tone*

[@acejumper1681]

This game was my childhood. I'm extremely happy it's getting remastered for modern platforms.

[@TheOshawottKing]

its really shocking to me that Epic Mickeys morality system is honestly one of the weakest parts of it considering this game was directed by the same guy that directed Deus EX, THE GAME THAT IS AWESOME BECAUSE OF ITS MORALITY SYSTEM. this is one of my childhood games that i will prolly talk about it alot with others till i am 300 years in my deathbed but i am aware of its flaws and just wish they remake the game (not only cus i want them to fix its issues but to hopefully give the developers a chance to go all out with the games concepts and story).

[@rifty9322]

hey man theres a remake that actually released a little bit ago! I hipe you review it

[@theoverrayted]

0:00 IS THAT CONTEMPLATE FROM NO STRAIGHT ROADS?

[@HorridVO]

yeah! i love that game's music!

[@KarateGirl999]

HOO BOY!

[@ajflink]

I always wanted to try this game but always got sidetracked. I guess that wish will be granted this year or ealry next year. It is weird that Buena Vista is associated with Disney's arguably two best video game franchises involving Mickey Mouse that are not kid's/edutainment games. And then they strangled one in the crib before it flourish forcing the creators to give up due to poor sales, while other escaped because it was being handled mainly by a company not directly owned by Disney. I feel like there is some depressing analogy there. Also, the number of leaks for Refurbished (I love THQ Nordic's creative remake/remaster names for the games they've done so far) seems suspicious as they are coming out too easily. It feels like this being done intentionally to build up hype.

[@TheArtGremlin]

I HEAR THAT NSR SOUNDTRACK‼️‼️

[@saviorarc]

hiii i love seeing recent videos about epic mickey. also i love how we all agree epic mickey 2 kinda sucks

[@cinnamonsakura1418]

Yeah, but for me, it's so bad sometimes it's good like when Oswald keeps running into shit while walking around and not needed, it makes my ADHD monkey brain excited and laugh like a crackhead at how silly Oswald is. That and when I accidentally get Mickey caught in Oswald's electricity zap. Just him saying "Be careful!" Makes me giggle like a gremlin and then I purposely get him caught a second time!

[@pojman3198]

this video man ❤

[@theghosthunter2678]

dude...how

[@kerdiocool]

YEEES SOMETHING BASED

[@Podeg]

:)

[@cavvygrave]

the pacing SUCKS !