TL vs FLY - Game 4 | Grand Final S14 LCS Summer 2024 Playoffs | Team Liquid vs FlyQuest G4 full

[@TobiDaJoker]

TL was so full of adrenaline after that final team fight that they all ran mid instead of sending 1 person back to defend lol

[@highrofellos6721]

Yep...tunnel visioned 100%

[@motnurky7055]

Had to have been some miscommunication, one of them pinged the wave. Best I can come up with is that they figured they'd lose the base race anyway with Bwipo about to be up with TP. But like At least send UMTI MAN

[@exlost245]

@@motnurky7055atleast Lillia should had TP back. That champ sucks at pushing

[@heybaeuwb8888]

Backing would not have stopped the loss. They send somone back they don't take down nexus maybe not even bussio garen tps and full crits nexus for win. They would have to have sent everyone back and full reset and maybe big maybe win one more fight for an ace but it was over. Go fly quest yahoo

[@TobiDaJoker]

@@heybaeuwb8888 Nah TL would have won if they sent 1 person back right after the team fight win. If UmTi went back he could have killed the minions before they caused any damage to TL's nexus. TL was already hitting FLY's nexus when Garen TPd over, and Garen wouldn't kill a full health nexus faster than 4 members of TL which includes a Tristana and Kaisa

[@chriswitry6976]

This is gonna haunt TL in the locker room. 2 simple things would’ve given them the win: 1. Sending back CoreJJ to walk off the minions bc he def wasn’t needed in the push and 2. Just ignoring Leona and ending the game

[@GuildWarsUploads]

Don’t think they could’ve ignored the Leona, she was holding the minions. Imo, the safest play would’ve been sending back one of the ADC. Could’ve very easily cleared their base, and the 4 man squad could’ve just killed the Leona, and the Garen. Game would be finished before the rest respawned. Whatever they could’ve done, it was very obvious their nexus wasn’t gonna survive. At the end of the team fight, there were already Supers in their base with no minions to defend.

[@chriswitry6976]

Bwipo would’ve tp’d ragardless, and sending back one of the adcs would’ve taken away the damage they needed to quickly end. They also could’ve ignored Leona because they had the grubs when hitting the tower/someone could’ve just also just ranked the tower and died as long as it wasn’t trist. The easiest decision would’ve just been the have core back immediately as soon as the ace went through, and game over

[@booter5956]

​@@chriswitry6976grubs on its own don't get rid of turret debuff, and dies rather quickly no? I don't think it would be enough

[@svtzzz]

​@@chriswitry6976 if they send one guy to clear minions in base after the fight,,,,,, where would bwipo tp exactly go????

[@bluerum896]

@@chriswitry6976 man you speak things with such confidence! TL should hire a coach like you

[@GuitarHeroMusic191]

OMG I lost it after Azael at 44:43 says THEY LOST and then he, or someone else, like coughs and spits at the same time because they can't even breathe it's so hilarious man what an insane moment

[@noxta4663]

Absolutely absurd ending, most fun I've had watching in a long time

[@jerico1299]

This ending gave me heart palpitations... god damn!

[@brandonc4985]

my fitbit was telling me abnormal heart rate lmfao

[@rayzheng7940]

Imagine if Bwipo’s TP caused 1 minion to stop attack and they lost the race 😂

[@Tupac876]

He actually did. Watch the replay in slow motion. The minion wave respawned for TL and all the melee minions turned away from the nexus to clear the wave. Bwipo TP’ed on a caster minion who was still hitting the nexus. He’s lucky the others did enough to clutch it.

[@GuitarHeroMusic191]

I just went frame by frame and a caster minion ended the game. If he teleported on that caster minion that last hit the nexus TL wins. Unless the other casters kept attacking nexus instead of the newly spawned waves like the supers did.

[@parsnips16]

FLY's nexus was at full hp, Bwipo wouldve had time to auto their nexus once before TL could finish anyway

[@BeastGrid]

Holy shit, the wave spawns, the minions all turn to hit the other minions, and TWO already flying caster autos take it...

[@GuitarHeroMusic191]

omg nice eyes I checked frame by frame and your right a caster auto hits nexus and the next frame the camera pans over to game over screen. That could've been the last auto too if the casters switched focus after that one, which means Bwipo could've TP'd on that one and stopped it from ending lmao but who knows there are so many different outcomes to this scenario all because they didn't send 1 person back ahahahaha

[@jobliar937]

44:30 replay button

[@jaydee4177]

Never seen a team get aced twice and then immediately win a championship lol

[@pjoazure]

bro that ending was CRAZYYYYY

[@megamani547]

Absolute Cinema

[@Raptorsified]

Imagine if APA and yeon put as much effort into the game as they did emoting.

[@alv_well2486]

I watched the "Winions " that pop up on Facebook reels,. I immediately go here to watch full video 😅

[@H2MixtapeGod]

Meanwhile Tristana didn’t even auto the inhib turret and ult was up the entire time and could’ve pushed Leona away before the engage… also why did Impact TP to mid wave after the fight? I get keeping the wave alive for the push but it was fine. They fumbled on multiple fronts.

[@mhmmmmmmm]

ACTUAL winions, that's nuts

[@aniakondracka4247]

It is very funny that Inspired and Bwipo have won NA title 😂😂😂 how can NA compete with LCK/ LPL then?

[@dVector13]

They cant. The best NA fans can do is say "w-well TL almost beat SKT once at worlds last year during groups!"

[@wildcard650]

My heart was not ready for a game 5

[@jordanpenner6970]

Where the fuck is the replay of the winions for fly???? Such an oversight wtf

[@richardnguyen9413]

its literally on the bottom left

[@remtmy]

How funny you talk of *oversight*

[@PTdoubleOT]

Look at the fkn bot inhib spawn right after the wave passes by holy shit they were so close to getting aggro'd to hit inhib LMAOOOOOOOO

[@apx89]

I gave chatgpt a picture of the draft and asked it to analyze it. This was the prediction it came with... ### Team Compositions: 1. **Team Liquid:** - A very dive-heavy composition with strong engage tools in Rell and Lillia. - K'Sante provides a tanky frontline and can disrupt fights. - Tristana is likely a high-burst mid lane pick who can snowball if she gets early kills. - Kai'Sa has great synergy with Rell and Lillia for follow-up burst and engage. 2. **FlyQuest:** - This is a more scaling composition, especially with **Ivern** and **Zeri**. Ivern will provide utility and shielding, making it difficult to kill key targets. - **Corki** and **Zeri** offer significant poke and late-game damage. - **Garen** is a strong laner but lacks the same scaling or engage as K'Sante. However, he will be hard to kill in fights. - **Leona** provides strong engage and lockdown, enabling Corki and Zeri to deal damage from a safe distance. ### Key Points: - **Early Game:** Team Liquid should have the advantage early, especially with Lillia's mobility and Tristana’s burst potential in the mid lane. If they can establish a lead and snowball through Tristana or Kai'Sa, they will have good chances to dominate. - **Mid to Late Game:** FlyQuest's composition scales very well. Ivern's utility and shielding paired with Zeri and Corki’s poke and mobility can be difficult to deal with in prolonged fights. FlyQuest would need to avoid early-game mistakes and scale into a point where Zeri can take over teamfights. ### Predictions: - **Team Liquid:** Their aggressive, dive-focused comp could overwhelm FlyQuest early on, especially with strong gank and snowball potential from Lillia and Tristana. If they manage to secure early dragons and set up for fights, they can snowball hard. - **FlyQuest:** If they survive the early pressure and reach the late game, the poke from Corki and the sustain from Ivern can give them the advantage in drawn-out fights. Garen can act as a solid frontline for Zeri and Corki to deal damage. Given the compositions, I would lean towards **Team Liquid** if they can execute early to mid-game aggression effectively. However, **FlyQuest** will have the edge if they can hold on and scale into the late game with Ivern and Zeri.

[@WBushiPI]

The Ending gave me adrenaline too as a TL fan I don't know if I should laugh or be upset XD

[@SDFGH87896]

They lost but Yeon played out of his mind those last couple sequences!

[@jasonxhx7854]

It's almost like every team that lets Jensen go, wins

[@bennypoo]

Impact should have backed as soon as they saw the wave in their base. He wasted TP onto the mid wave for no reason after they won the fight. He should have backed and defended the super minion wave and then TP back to enemy base if they needed him... or stay to defend if Bwipo comes for backdoor... but I think they just would win before that happens. I love Impact and he played amazingly this split like always, and maybe it was a team call, but its K'Sante's job to defend the base and use his TP there, and he misplayed.

[@rhynzard]

The end was funny in live, but at rewatch you can see how stupid was the TL call. Was enough leave 1 member in base and it was done.

[@M0ONCommander]

actual winions

[@ajithrajaful]

wait why did they not send corejj back to hold the minions wtf

[@chriswitry6976]

Exactly what I thought as it was happening

[@oblonghas]

Wow wild ending

[@goldeneyeproduction8702]

Leona MVP the 2 sec she buy winions was enoght time wow they took that bait xD

[@tylersmall3169]

The biggest part of that play is if they ignore Leo she runs all the minions straight away from the towers. They pretty much had to kill her otherwise the towers get major damage reduction from backdoor bonus (which grubs do NOT remove)

[@bennypoo]

Yea Busio played that perfectly. Bought just enough time. Actually a super play.

[@christianclark9494]

a game of all time

[@kevinvanoversteeg7001]

wel didnt see that one comming in the end. what a game

[@warnerbroken8973]

"Tristana escapes with 50 hp and Bwipo is not happy with that" xD gotta love him This game was an absolute blast!

[@TzV357]

Wrong call on the tp by Impact

[@Kosmisch1987]

If Impact just cleared the wave then TP'ed into their base with the push game was over

[@erick3522]

Should've checked the map and the alert that the mega minions are already in their Nexus come on man

[@tankster27]

I guess TSM's 6th game wasn't a mistake during the 0-6 run. This game proves it. This wasn't a professional match. This was just another Tuesday. This was a normal's match. This is what your low rank games looks like. NA's rank games plays like a normal game. It's not competitive. It's casual. This is what your pros have to deal with, and the community reflects the pro's performance. You deal with it.

[@abuyousufrashid8760]

WINIONS ARE ALL U NEED 🎉

[@chrilovers6664]

MINIONS WINNING LCS!

[@rrsnapp1]

Spending the time to kill Busio at the end lost it as well. They got to the nexus after killing him which took up about 5 seconds, would have been plenty of time to kill a nexus with trist/kai.

[@oscart8762]

Kasanti DIDNT NOT NEED TO TP TEN STEPS FORWARDS HE COULD HAVE JUST WENT BACK CLEARED THE WAVE AND TP TO THEM!!!

[@xxovereyexx5019]

Minions MVP

[@poooky321]

Only in LCS would you see a championship win like this... SMH

[@goldeneyeproduction8702]

i mean u dont care about losing but atleast ignore the suport and push the base that was no needed it was so bad

[@dracosethie]

Well i was wrong. Two hours ago i said it will be 3:2 for tl. I was wrong. Gj fly!

[@TheGerrok]

The game was decided by one disguised Neeko.

[@lalum.azmiaziz]

where is T1? have they lost? It's been a long time since I watched a LoL tournament

[@SoulLoveBase]

Very interesting end to the series. Quite entertaining. Well done to both teams! Good luck at world's!

[@heybaeuwb8888]

Im so so happy flyquest won but they still need to pull the reins back a bit. Stay together more and find better ways to close. They almost had to go to game five because they ran it a bit. More geoup planning in game on coms but im so happy they won

[@big_boy_chris]

TL definitely threw... they even pinged the minions and nobody decided to TP back to base...

[@tylersmall3169]

Definitely no TPs up, which is probably the single reason why they decided not to. The power of the 5 man rush vs the delay of the 4 man rush with 1 defender against a Garen with TP up. If anyone backs they probably assume they don't have enough to end.

[@calliph]

Those are red side flyquest pings, not TL.

[@JustRockIt141]

Impact tp to mid right after the fight was troll. Definitely should Base first clear the wave then tp back

[@teelee8760]

Sending one guy back would have secured the win for sure.

[@Tomby__]

TL said end end end . NO NO NO why did no one back!???

[@sillykyle17]

CoreJJ just had to back and TL wins the game

[@Kosmisch1987]

WOW TL lost the series by not sending just 1 person back for a second to stop those super minions in base

[@user-a33kixd2wq44]

Dont understand why pick xin zhao and iven for competition. Both champs looks so weak for me.

[@PatricioMartinez1994]

Le aposte todo mi sueldo al mapa 4 de Team Liquid...

[@tylersmall3169]

So many good toplaners in the meta for EU tops! Not skilled enough to wait out CC and play fights well? Just play Olaf! Need your team to carry you early game as a mega early game powerhouse? Renekton has your back! Don't want to worry about positioning, get a "delete enemy carry" button, and let your minions do the work after bad fights? Garen is the answer you're looking for!

[@lunaraurora1755]

God damn yes. Apa deserves a full carrier shut down. Permanent. God damn bm emoter getting exactly what he deserves. Go fly quest. You are amazing for karma smacking that waste. Cocky cocky cocky cocky cocky TL

[@heybaeuwb8888]

I beleived in flyquest and team i knew they had the win but i was scared for a min after they ran it down twice at the end

[@OutOfWards]

Congrats!

[@lost_in_nightcity]

Bwipo just having the best time of his life. Constantly laughing, especially after this finale. So happy for inspired too, gg dude

[@redoublement4607]

Hopefully this will shut APA up once and for all.

[@noneed_the_crown_toknow_imking]

Minion: We Should Get A MVP

[@TanayKhan-c5k]

Thompson Edward Hernandez Gary Jones Timothy

[@stewn1356]

xPeke would be proud

[@onsesaso]

g2 vs t1 run last year? enemy team forgot the open nexus

[@lony1329]

Okay FLY won - but words can't explain how poorly Massu performed on that last game

[@dVector13]

Liquid actually lost because they got distracted by a teamfight win and forgot to look at their map. These are professionals?

[@tankster27]

No different than our normal games. GGs

[@bennypoo]

Someone on TL pinged the wave when it entered their base. They definitely saw it, they just misplayed and thought they could end fast enough I guess. K'Sante should have backed and defended.

[@YamzieMoyo]

38:16 lmfao

[@RicoZed]

Never see a final like that 😂🤣

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

What a hilarious way to lose. 😂 Oh well. TL proved they had the mental fortitude, and that even if they were playing worse than normal, they're still good enough to go toe-to-toe with FLY. GG to FLY. We'll see you at worlds. Let see who does better

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

@jeevang7853 such an original comment. My brother go touch grass, maybe you'll be less cringe and have more in your life to look forward to than being semantic about someone's word choice.

[@gabrielramirezpaniagua1033]

Tank Minion > TL

[@westrunningbrook]

Watching incel APA get dunked on multiple times after all his toxicity was extremely satisfying

[@lovisericachii4503]

The NA special

[@victorandrespolo]

Winions

[@anitaharogerfera7984]

Wilson Jennifer Robinson Melissa Thomas Deborah

[@MartinDominic-h8b]

Miller Jessica Lewis Timothy Clark Margaret

[@BrunoOliveira-e7b]

Best away for APA to lose this guy just trash talk

[@MrGlitch76]

this pissed me off lol

[@KeithWinchell]

Miller Patricia Perez Shirley Gonzalez Maria

[@MrGlitch76]

winnions

[@bladeyboiii]

minions pog mvp

[@ChamberlainMamie]

Garcia Steven Perez Lisa Brown Jessica

[@SalmanKhan-r9n8t]

Jackson Kevin Martinez Matthew Young Sandra

[@202215jaffe521]

Even C9 is not in final, TL some how C9 the game

[@timmbrefaldridge1984]

Clark John Lopez Jessica Taylor Shirley

[@fung1339]

LMAO WTF is that ending

[@th3pr01234]

bwipo being extra wide

[@urieru5096]

NA Grand final KEKW 😂😂😂😂

[@Kaelleonm4913]

winions ggez

[@lost_in_nightcity]

Question from someone who does not play the game but loves watching it: Did TL have to go after Leona? It looks like they could've done it if they did focuse on the base.

[@user-zh6vx2ly8c]

Young Angela Walker Sharon Thompson Carol

[@JuanitaaHarris-x1l]

Harris Mark Brown Helen Clark Brenda

[@TeamEchelonRecords]

Biggest throw of all time!!! Just TP home tristana the rest can handle itttt

[@remtmy]

How can she tp when it's on cd? Impact should of tp based instead of using it litterally next to where he was standing after they won the fight.

[@chriswitry6976]

^ this

[@TeamEchelonRecords]

@@remtmy a regular recall even would have saved it

[@gostjoke]

lol this is so stupid, it is definitely NALCS

[@markcorrigan1995]

44:10 Impact unwisely uses his TP, 44:15 APA knew to recall, but cancelled, and that combined lost them the game.

[@colin8578]

I think APA has to push since trist melts towers. Impact or corejj needed to back. They almost do nothing to the towers, and could have cleared/tanked the wave

[@jerome6578]

They are aware of that huge minion wave thats about to obliterate their base, they opted for a base race and lose lol

[@agathabrooks2710]

Thompson Sandra Johnson Brenda Martinez Donald

[@EtanRowleS]

Moore Sharon Clark Donald Moore Larry

[@latebloomer1020]

레오나 점사하는 거 소름돋네 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@onikharutyunyan7563]

Ksante made Impact mvp but cant carry whole team to trophy

[@chriswitry6976]

I mean he’s usually so good on it but he was legit absent in this game

[@chriswitry6976]

@jeevang7853 notice the part where i said 'this game' and not 'lose them the series'

[@waynewenashasa8674]

Miller Kimberly Hall Amy Brown Edward

[@rileyaudley4021]

Williams Brian Taylor Helen Clark Ronald

[@matthewsarabia6366]

What was so special about Fly winning this finals?

[@acasualgachagamer6816]

I think they're just the 6th team to do it since TSM, C9 and TL monopolized the title in their dominant eras, IIRC.

[@heybaeuwb8888]

Because they are an underdog. And rivals to tl. And they lost the last split but should have won it. So they proved it today. That they are a top team and bad asses

[@matthewsarabia6366]

@@heybaeuwb8888 announcers said something about history, that’s what I was referring to