Epiphone's SECOND CHANCE Les Paul Modern

[@dsholt]

Underappreciated perk of the Epiphone Modern is that the back doesn't have the awful looking veneer that the other models do and you can just see the nice looking mahogany wood grain.

[@whitestripe484]

YES, the main reason I dislike 90% of Epi guitars are those awful veneers. They just make the guitar look fake and there's nothing worse than that

[@dsholt]

@@whitestripe484 The Epi SG is the worst offender, because they put the veneer on the top but only the flat part, so all the curve are plain red. It looks so bad I don't know how anyone buys those.

[@vautrain]

@@whitestripe484 I agree. I can only consider buying ones with the solid colors or the few without the veneer.

[@tedjohnson5210]

Never really thought about that but I own several epiphones and yes, the back of my modern is probably my favorite because of this exact reason.

[@ricochet8104]

@@whitestripe484 Yeah, but luckily this model and the EPI custom les paul, both white and ebony, look pretty fine. And those guitars sound as good as gibson's so their look has to deliver, in comparison to the more cheap epiphone models.

[@dinkeredwards5187]

I just received the exact Guitar only in Graphite Black Yesterday.. New Strings and I set the action up and I can't hardly set it down..The Best Guitar purchase I've made in a Long Time..I'm Hooked on this Les Paul .. Life is Good...,!!!

[@teddydavid2816]

Sounds good I'm trying to decide which Epiphone LP to get and this might just be the one I think I'm pretty set on black as well..

[@bretspangler8717]

The out-of-phase makes some cool changes at the limits of the pots, I play the center position in both tones all the way down, and both volumes are almost maxed, just back a notch, this gives some really nice overdrive tones.

[@OktoberFilms]

I bought the Epiphone Les Paul Modern burgundy last year. Online. It had a cracked finish on the neck and horribly badly matched wood on the back. I returned it and got a replacement. Back looked beautiful. No dings or issues with the finish. It plays and sounds great. I don’t really play anything else nowadays. So, QC appears to be on and off. If you get a good one, it’ll challenge any Gibson.

[@stevesutton5498]

Oktoberfilms,I bought this exact guitar in Oct 23,absolutely no problems,plays looks and plays great!

[@XxPackerManxX]

​@@stevesutton5498I got one in Faded Pelham Blue coming tomorrow.😉

[@stevesutton5498]

@@XxPackerManxX Great,You won't regret it.

[@johnny5.090]

I love the channel because we get to actually hear the guitars not pro tools or other digital tech. It’s the literal guitars!! Great job 👍 Lots of guitar channels run through daws and other very expensive hardware… To get their sound.

[@jeremychildress3931]

I bought my first Les Paul from the music store a couple of days ago an Epi inspired by Gibson LP Standard in Ice Tea Burst for $649. and it is amazing. Couldn’t be happier!

[@georgecaplan11]

I have this exact guitar. Swapped the pickups for SD JB/Jazz. Changed the knobs for black ones. Added a poker chip to the neck bridge switch. It’s a great guitar. But may have to change the switch itself because sometimes it doesn’t quite switch to neck from middle.

[@markpell8979]

George, make sure the switch tip isn't screwed down too far, that can keep it from throwing all the way to the bridge or neck detent of the switch by bumping into the rim. Twist out the tip until it just clears, if that's the problem. It may seem silly but I've seen it happen a couple times.

[@markpell8979]

@@Music_the_Worlds_Language Congrats, Jim! Once in a while the fix is simple and costs nothing. Another little thing to put on the checklist.

[@therollband1290]

I tried all of the epi Les Pauls in the guitar store, 50’s, 60’s, Studio, even the 59 and the modern was my favorite. It had a loud acoustic sound unplugged and the ebony fretboard and asymmetrical neck felt great. Sure it’s not as slinky as a Gibson but the sustain is there.

[@richardsveum8452]

I have the Radio Blue version of this guitar, Pretty sure it was a Sweetwater exclusive color, Love the guitar.

[@valley_robot]

I bought mine a few weeks ago for 250.00 UK pounds, it was almost brand new, still had the plastic on the pickups, I love it, a bigsby is on the way for it, gonna be sweet

[@CJZM7777]

I get tempted by the review to try this guitar but then the reviewer says the first one was a dud and many comments say they have issues with finish and electronics of Epi guitars. I bought the lowest end PRS S2 single cut a few years ago and the fit, finish, functionality and sound are all very good. I bought the satin flat black with dot inlays for $1,050 which isn't a fancy guitar. It is basically a LP clone but it does have a pick guard attached to the body and it is all mahogany - no maple top. I have 4 different e-guitars and it is the easiest to play and it sounds the best. It even plays better than my 1997 Heritage H535 which goes for $3,000 new. Still might try these but I would probably buy locally so I could have easy access to return it if it is a dud.

[@dale1289]

The finish cracking on the neck under the nut is impact damage from shipping. The problem is that you can't tell if there's any damage to the wood. Check your guitar as soon as you get it.

[@jarredbaca8112]

Almost to that 50k! Glad I stumbled on this channel, love the in depth reviews!

[@martianmurray]

I’ve been thinking about getting a cheap humbucker guitar to put some Green Magic pups in for the out of phase sounds but this could be an easier option.

[@paulcopsey6573]

Try an Epiphone Les Paul Classic

[@jasonmyers3847]

Or a Gibson Les Paul Classic. I love mine.

[@buzzstankos8532]

Beautiful guitar (Pelham Blue) & the asymmetrical neck was a pleasant surprise… plays like a dream and feels great in my hand. Thanks

[@user-xd7rc9mj3x]

I have the burgundy, and love it. Nice sound. Play it the most lately.

[@Kdschaak]

650 dollars and an ebony fretboard. Such a nice guitar.

[@dustinscott5628]

I bought one of these, great out of the box, no issues. Its a great guitar but ive kind of decided i dont care for the treble bleed aspect of it, it doesnt clean up how im used to and keeps it too bright for my taste. Thats all personal preference but the fit and finish was excellent. Might swap out the wiring harness and roll on

[@DrJeebles]

I'm glad this one showed up with no major problems. That color is great. Nice one, guys.

[@msaintpc]

Is this guitar sub par or not? I bought the new Sheraton pro II, the second one was the boogie. If this axe is of a similar quality, then after a set up it'll be a monster, just like Johnny Lee said. The good thing about these guitars is you can remove the guts and transplant what you want into them and still have a guitar that in terms of quality, aesthetics, tone and playability, can go toe to toe with a real Gibson or any other brand with no sweat.

[@MattyVicious1]

That's a nice looking guitar, minus those dang knobs.

[@9th_note]

I picked a used one up for $275 and threw a hipshot bridge/tail and some Seymour Duncan pups and she screams. frets needed some leveling and polishing and the nut needed to be filed ever so slightly but that is something that you will have to do to just about any guitar sub $1000. still in under $700 w/a case and its solid…

[@wolfamri]

I came here for the Gibson modern, but you mentioned the Epiphone. Haven't played in 25 years. It's sooo hard to decide because a Gibson just has so much sex-appeal to me for whatever reason. Your reviews are just awesome in helping me decide on a guitar.

[@saibot_201]

for me this review just makes it harder haha what do you decide on now? is the name of gibson useful? either sound wise, build quality wise or even depreciating (holds it's money's worth more) wise?

[@wolfamri]

@@saibot_201 tbh I entered a new stage yesterday. I heard that Gibson was fighting the ban for illegally cleared tropical hardwood. In the state our planet is in, I don't think that is something I want to support. So for now I'll probably stick to my acoustic guitars and try to kill my desire to own a les paul again. In the end I'm a hobbyist and don't really need it. But I doubt that this will help you with your decision 😬

[@I_Really_Enjoy_Not_Seeing_You]

I have an Epi Modern figured I bought used. Got screwed by my local GC it had a snapped truss rod that I didn't know until after I bought it and I went to set it up. It sounded so good, I just put heavier gauge strings (Neck is slightly arched) and ride the strings a bit higher than I'd like because it sounds just so good otherwise and the rest of the guitar feels great (Also I refuse to lose big money selling it as a broken guitar)

[@dale1289]

If GC won't help contact Epiphone and see if they can do anything for you.

[@salohcin0083]

I have to get down to a shop to try this axe out! Looks great and always been interested in this one and the uptown Kat. Great vid and tones!

[@merope100]

How does this one compare to the epiphone les paul custom? Which one would you prefer?

[@pepperoni_tony]

hey man i recently bought a modern (graphite) and was debating between it and the custom so i played both a good bit. custom looks better from the front (black/gold) but the modern looks better from the back if you pick a good grain from sweet water. i played both with no amp and with a orange crush 30w. both sounded similar for the most part but i felt the custom sounded “thicker” unplugged but “muddier” plugged in (used same clean tones on both. i loved the option for coil split and i felt the neck pup split hit the “slow dancing in a burning room” test pretty well. modern was noticeably lighter. neck felt to me a lot better on the modern, thick on bass for thumb over playing, thin on treble side for easier barres. if it’s not obvious i’m a big strat guy and not super into vintage so the modern fits a lot of what i love and leaves the stuff i hate (like a chunky neck in the custom) and i’ve heard similar things from other strat lovers about the modern. lastly, when i tried the modern, they pulled it out of a fresh box for me so i got to see out of box quality. no sharp frets but the ends could do some polishing. some scratchy frets around the 12th and beyond but no dead frets or unleved ones. came with .10s and average action with good neck relief. i probably played it for an hour and i’m not sure if they left some stain on the ebony or they colored it for pictures but my finger tips turned very slightly black, but when i genuinely tried rub the fretboard to check how easily it came off, nothing did it was strange. i’ve read similar things from reddit and they say it stops after a while and is just stain.overall one of the best new guitars i’ve pulled from a box. mine arrives tomorrow morning so if you want to see QC on another one lmk. i also recommend if you buy a modern to do it through sweet water as i called them and they let me choose my specific guitar from all they had so i could find a really good grain on the back!

[@monmixer]

That guitar does have some nice features. I like the neck carve, locking tuners and I want trem system on it but I can toss a Duesenberg LES TREM II on it and be done. the probuckers would likely go but I'll try them awhile first. So I'm almost done with my one year search. I have dwindled down to this and a les trem or a PRS SE and then I may have to buy the locking tuners.

[@eoinjennings519]

Lifeson epi

[@thembonesband5903]

Good review!! You guys are my new Trogly!! Been subscribed for quite awhile now!! Do I have to enter for the guitar through gleam?? Thanks for the videos!!

[@leeherring470]

Thx guys. Not a bad guitar for the money as long as you get a good one!

[@Rockriverboarder]

I went to see one as I liked the idea of the asymmetric neck carve and especially the ebony board. The board was cloudy looking and plastic in appearance, like it was coated in translucent plastic. I left without it.

[@aliengrey6052]

Just knocked my action down on my epi modern. Fit and finish is perfection.

[@joeyadams2894]

Don’t let the beautiful and good look’s get you! They still have big problems with them, I decided to give them another try so this time I bought a Epiphone Slash Les Paul very nice and beautiful, but! It’ll still give intonation problems no matter what. So I have another wall hanger 😢, spent lots of money to have them fixed right and they still can’t fix it!

[@jfiery]

I had a 2018 Pelham Epi LP Standard as my 1st legit guitar affer no playing in 25 years. Id sit and stare at it wben i wasn't playing it. It ended up in 4 pieces in a punk roxk moment and despite it being clear that it has not maple at all it was a great sounding guitar. I still have. Pieces of thr body and thr headstock and have dreams of resurrecting her one day. Even with a proper Gibson 60s Standard I still have plans to resurrect her. Grrat playing at always Kalo

[@tccgrad1999]

Is the bridge and tail piece the same mediocre quality of the old Epiphone LP's? Is that something that can be upgraded?

[@strumlead8741]

Redeemed! Oh man, you have the worst luck on this. A broken high E string? Haha! Mine came perfect... except the action was terribly high which took major overhaul of the bridge and neck to fix it, but all good now. It's my main ax now. Keep bringing it, your channel is awesome!

[@swervature]

How is the pickguard attached on these? Is there a way to remove it without leavingholes inthe body?

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

Screws. Only if you fill and paint over the holes.

[@swervature]

@@ZacksRockingLifestyle -- That's what I figured. Thanks, mate.

[@ibanez2010]

I've bought a ton of Epi's over the years and I honestly think I've ever only had one lemon, and even that wasn't horrible. My track record with MIM Fenders and Jacksons is much, much worse.

[@spike007980]

Thanks for the video, I just ordered the pelham blue. i'll report in when it gets here :)

[@spike007980]

It's here! Small problem, the fret ends or nibs whichever you'd like to call them are sharp. Gonna see if I can swing it into a music shop and see what can be done about the action and the fret nibs for a fee of course. The pelham blue is phenomenal though.

[@clust11]

Would you suggest to change the humbuckers for something better?

[@DennisFeinsteinCEO]

Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz... PERFECT pups that literally work for anything 👍

[@legionniy]

This will be my next les paul due to lighter body & carved contour body... already owned 2019 Gibson LP 50s standard.

[@HageanFQ]

I have my mind set on my first electric being an epi lp, and I am comfortable spending the $650 but idk which to pick. The 50’s classic, the 60’s, or to get the modern

[@PlayandTradeGuitars]

Good choices, the modern is a better value all around if you like the asymmetric neck carve and ebony board: www.zzounds.com/a--3979398/item--EPIEILM I would start there, and if you don't like it swap for the thicker neck 50s or slim taper 60s. It will be more traditional than the Modern, but the Modern is objectively a better guitar for the same money. Thanks!

[@joehahn3095]

The 50’s has a fat neck and different Probuckers.

[@HageanFQ]

@@joehahn3095 hmm, I’m pretty much convinced to get the modern, the model in the description is pretty nice but I wish it was in different colors, I might get a black or pay a bit more if a burst color has similar specs

[@HageanFQ]

@@PlayandTradeGuitars this made me pretty much decide on the modern, thank you

[@jamesofalo6247]

Try the Epiphone 59 LP Inspirdd by Gibson, It has Gibson burstbucker pick ups. Some places sell it without the plush case for 749.00. I tried it out, Sounds great but I don't care for the burst finishes.

[@gopeddle]

I've owned that same guitar for 18 months and love it.

[@michaelwhite8737]

Defective! Defects for days! Epi has ruined the chances of me owning one. I went through 2 LP Customs. The KOA, and the Black LP. And a 61 LP SG. The red one! Lol. I tried so hard to like an Epi. I ordered and sent back 3. They all had defects so bad I couldn't make myself keep em. Never again will I be disappointed by Epiphone.

[@michaelwhite8737]

@@gerrielubbe3968 I play a little bit. I know a chord or 2. And your wrong, I own 3 guitars, that aren't perfect. That I absolutely love. Epiphones QC is extremely bad. Period. Say what you want, I only responded because you question my ability🤨. Seriously, Epiphones the only brand I've had QC issues with.

[@gerrielubbe3968]

@@michaelwhite8737 all good, no worries.

[@andydimartino6733]

I love this channel. ty for bringing us these great guitars every week

[@PlayandTradeGuitars]

Thank you we really appreciate that!

[@Rogeramirez]

I had the chance to try a couple of these moderns against a classic, and the classic sounded way better.

[@jamesofalo6247]

Epiphone classic or Gibson Classic?

[@jamesofalo6247]

Pickups are different.

[@Rogeramirez]

@@jamesofalo6247 Epiphone Classic Les Paul 2022

[@MashaT22]

You guys are totally awesome. Thanks for hearing my comments on the first review and giving this guitar model another try. I really agreed with your assessment last time - that particular guitar was horrible, and you were actually very generous with your review. However, I was also super bummed because I’ve never seen anyone post reviews on dealers sites or elsewhere on social media that their Epiphone Modern or Modern Figured had anything more than tiny cosmetic flaws. Most have reported flawless guitars with amazing necks and pickups, and major overall bang for the buck in the spec/features department. I respect that you thought about my comments some more and decided to give the Modern another fair shot. You just taught people a solid lesson to always try again if there are issues with a particular guitar. Most of the time, odds are the second guitar will be great when the general reviews for a particular model are generally really favorable. It meant a lot to me that I was not only heard, but that you acted on it by doing a second review. Perhaps others who has similar comments on the first review feel the same way. I don’t even think I’ve ever seen any channel go back and do a second review. The Epiphone Modern and Modern Flamed deserve far more attention than the new models that are nearly double in cost. Thanks for showing everyone this model again!

[@PlayandTradeGuitars]

Thanks always for your thoughtful comments and for watching, I really appreciate it!

[@jameskearney4100]

I have a Rose Gold 2019 Les Paul for sale! Let me know!

[@shooter4473]

Thanks man. I have too many guitars now. Now it will be too many plus one.

[@PlayandTradeGuitars]

I know the feeling! Thanks for watching!

[@allanrathgeber4311]

Once again Epiphone brings something well thought out to the gtable. The tonal variety alone is well worth the investment and I have owned several different Epi"s in my time and this is on my must have list. Great presentation, thanks, I will be watching for more of your indepth reviews. Good job!

[@luizdiaz5196]

Nobody is talking about the fact that epiphone lists their guitars as having 43mm nut widths- they are always far less than advertised. Class action anyone? 😂

[@blwnova4155]

This must be at least the fourth Epi I have seen where the cover screws on the back are drilled right in to the edge of the cutout so they barely catch. Completely puts me off on these LPs. I have the 58 Epi Flying V but wouldn’t buy any of their LPs.

[@lionelb.1482]

do a partial coil plit (PRS) and you got it all!

[@fredcarter7003]

I did not see the first modern, but I really like this one, better so the the traditional

[@Rimshot691]

Love the two tone awesome guitar

[@shai2875]

Does anyone who bought the guitar know if there is any problem with the strings that need to be replaced every 2 months or some other problem with the electronic components

[@touchthesun2448]

a nice and cheaper option is the SG Muse

[@Edward1312]

Had one, got rid of it, way too light for a Les Paul IMHO.

[@bdcrabbman]

I’m glad you gave it another chance. Mine is so great

[@maximehedin7143]

Hello. Why do you change the strings that are completly new ? I don't understand why wasting strings like that..

[@zachb5803]

It has an Ebony fretboard!

[@edriccarrington9427]

Weight?

[@michaelwhite8737]

I knew something would be broken. My new faith in Epi.

[@stevehaynie9691]

I think those new Epiphones are good enough for anybody.

[@martinlouden9005]

It's hard to believe just how much Epiphone have upped their game. I've always been very reluctant to buy an Epiphone Les Paul until seeing your demos of these latest models. This one is particularly nice, and it sounds superb. My brother bought a 2020 Gibson Les Paul standard and it is one of the worst Les Paul's I have ever encountered. I've played better Chibson's!!

[@bikeman1x11]

QC is still hit or miss and fretwork is far below korean level

[@jeremychildress3931]

I recently purchased an Inspired by Gibson Epi LP Standard Ice Tea Burst and it’s an amazing guitar by any measure. EPI has definitely upped its game. I couldn’t be happier and I’m particular and hard to please.

[@briannelms158]

Congrats on the channel growth!

[@MrTPF1]

Looked and sounded great!

[@stinkykittylaur]

Glad the second chance turned out great. :)

[@johndaugherty4127]

Wow! That baby looks and sounds great!

[@T0mmyTune]

Here to say right out loud that my Epiphone Les Paul Modern journey is complete. The guitar is a complete piece of trash as manufactured. Have your luthier fix the frets, check. Change out the shitty 'probuckers', Check. Change out all the shitty wiring and switches? Check. Now you have a playable guitar. All these reviews. Every singe one of them, will have you pining for this guitar. It is without a doubt the biggest scam in guitars that I can think of. Should I have simply bought the Gibson version? I am not at all sure that is the answer either. All of these manufacturers are looking for ways to cut corners to make an extra penny. And it shows.

[@bloodreport146]

looks cool 🎸

[@isaacgurung1571]

Subscribed 😍

[@PlayandTradeGuitars]

Thanks for watching and welcome!

[@jimmygrant3151]

Nice guitar

[@accountaccountNIKE]

Epiphones sound muddy. I have gibsions and custom epis. The epis feel pretty good . But pro buckers suck. I have changed out pick ups and it still does not sound great like the gibsons. The new adam jones standard silver burst is incredible.

[@gerrielubbe3968]

You put this in the hands of a poor boy player I bet he’ll make it sound like something.. to properly crit, you must really know your stuff, the pots, the pup magnets, coil wire thickness, the wood, the paint, and the list goes on.. how about making up a spread sheet covering / comparing all the features with tick boxes..?

[@ricochet8104]

I actually saw a video comparing two Custom LP's from both epi and gibson and they sound the same. The only difference was the prize.

[@joepardi9369]

Love mine I have not any issues

[@therollband1290]

Sweet 🤘🏼

[@jerbear1601]

I never liked the sound of Epiphones at all. They sound dull and homogenized. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a snob and I actually get along fine with Fender Squires just fine most of the time.

[@scod3908]

The older ones had horrible pickups, the new "probuckers" aren't bad at all ~95% on a burstbucker, go try one and see

[@jerbear1601]

@@scod3908 I tried one of the Epiphone "inspired by Gibson '61 SG's" and it sounded terrible. Plugged in the cheapest Gibson tribute and it was pretty good.

[@janlesinski4719]

So they new you were going to review this guitar and you still had defects says it all

[@PlayandTradeGuitars]

I specifically prefer to receive factory sealed boxes for reviews from the brands. Thanks

[@Giitzerland]

I don't know if it's your amp, and mixing, or playing...but that demo was very hard to listen to. I've owned Gibson's, and Epiphone products, they're antiques, and are anti-value, unless you're a Gibson collector. Gibson products looks incredible, and looks matter at times, not much beats a Gibson there. If function, and musicality are the result you want, ESP and Harley Benton(as extreme examples of each end, both better value than Gibson) have *far* better products when it comes to playability.

[@ricochet8104]

"Anti value"? Nah, Epis deliver very well for their price, they sound really good. Look "Epiphone modern les paul review" by Gorilla Guitars and you will hear how good they can sound. But gibsons are really overpriced. Also, epis are not antiques since the brand literally produces updated/upgraded versions of gibson models, something gibson doesn't, for some reason.

[@douglashaffner6602]

Too many gimmicks. First thing I'd do is rip out all the silly extra useless wiring and replace push pulls with standard 500k pots. Give me a standard 3 way toggle switch and two humbuckers all day. No need for all the silly coil splits. It's a les paul and that's all it needs to be.

[@joeygouda]

They suck they all do, weight tells u everything and these things are toothpicks

[@joeygouda]

These r BOOTLEG guitars made from other guitar organs

[@ricochet8104]

They literally can't be bootlegs since Epiphone is an official sub-brand of Gibson. I don't know what do you mean by "made from other guitar organs", since all Epis are made from zero, like any other normal brand in the market. I don't understand why some people hate Epi so much being that they are literally better than gibson. They are neither badly constructed (Gibson guitars are the ones with outdated construction), they also have better electronics. Because they are heavy? Lmao, they weight the same as Gibson guitars. Literally the same, but cheaper, and better. And only cheaper because Gibson prizes are a bad joke.

[@joeygouda]

@@ricochet8104 wanna see what i got?

[@joeygouda]

@@ricochet8104 there for poor ppl

[@joeygouda]

@@ricochet8104 have u ever held a a Les Paul? Anything? You'll notice a 5lb difference

[@ricochet8104]

@@joeygouda I really can't, you have to write it lmao

[@dpajc056]

Well your Epiphones are essentially Chibsons. But don’t mistake Epiphone to be nearly as good as Gibson. The difference is amateur vs pro. Wood quality, pickups, electronics, PLEK, the finishing, nitro paint, it’s just not comparable. The Epiphone will satisfy only your eyes while the Gibson will satisfy everything (other than your pocket lol). If you’re strapped for budget do yourselves a favor and buy a used Gibson instead or a new tribute special. It’ll destroy this guitar

[@ricochet8104]

I don't think so. Gibson is terribly overrated, and their guitars are SERIOUSLY overpriced, being that they are only decent competitors to Fender. Their construction is outdated and have several flaws. Epiphone models are more accesible, more modern, they have more innovations both in design and in electronics, they don't suffer from Gibson's design flaws. and overall is literally a better choice to buy a high-end Epi, that will probably sound as good as a standard Gibson but being three times cheaper. Why would you buy a high-end gibson when you can spend that money in a terrific fender model, or an ibanez like the JS series, or a Jackson pro series model, wich are literally better, and have more features, only by half the price? High-end Epiphones models like this one or the LP custom end up being a better alternative.

[@ryant3600]

yeah that's a bunch of crap..Epi's are way better than the Chibsons. I have a Chibson, I have a few Epi's, I have a harley Benton Lp and a Gibby LP. To be perfectly honest, the HB 550 plus EMG that I have was my favorite LP style guitar. It looks, feels and sounds amazing. And it's lighter than my Epi 60's standard and nearly a pound lighter than my Gibby custom. However, about a month ago I got the Epi modern LP, i have a feeling once I change out the pups it might be my favorite. I love how light it is, and it feels great to play. Love the neck profile on it as well. And most of all it's like 2300 less than the Gibson version..

[@joeygouda]

Epicrap

[@travelerworld4212]

Epiphone sucks for years now. Gibson went from worst to acceptable. Since 2010 good Epiphone is an average Gibson and an exceptionnal Gibson is one guitar on at least twenty.

[@ricochet8104]

What? Models like this one or the Epi custom les paul are pretty good. Gibson models are so expensive that buying a cheaper, and better, ibanez or fender ends up being a better alternative. Also at least epiphone adds more variation to their models and worry to innovate, something Gibson doesn't, and being the main reason why the brand is decaying so much. And not only that, but Epiphones are literally better in terms of construction than Gibson guitars, and it has nothing to do with the country where they're fabricated, but because of Gibson's outdated manufcaturing.

[@travelerworld4212]

@@ricochet8104 I can't blame you if you can't feel the difference between a good guitar and an Epiphone. All the Epiphone I had played since 2010 have an issue : bad fretting, fret buzz, dead potentiometers, dead female jack, detuning, bowed neck... acoustic and electric. Maybe it's the European importation that sucks.

[@ricochet8104]

@@travelerworld4212 What are you talking about? About the difference between decent to good guitars (Epiphones) and straight up outdated, overprized, badly manufactured, overrated guitars (Gibson)? I don't know what models are you talking about, no Epiphone of mine or from a friend ever had this issues. Now, you could ask the same question to all people complaining about Gibson's headstocks / tunning stability. Or yes, maybe it is the importation.

[@travelerworld4212]

@@ricochet8104 I'm talking about Les Pauls, SG, archtops, acoustics... even the Inspired by Gibson have technical issues like bad fretting, needing a fret reset even if they were brand new. That's a mess!!

[@ricochet8104]

@@travelerworld4212 I never saw one either with bad fretting or needing a fret reset. Not only that, but epiphone has done nothing but improve their quality over the years. Not only that, but the only guitars were i saw those issues being consistent were Squier guitars. And even in the case that most epiphones had those issues, the price of the guitar plus the reparation would still be more worth it than buying a Gibson. Plus, they have the sound quality of a standard gibson with a much better price.

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Wtf did I just watch

[@rudiger86]

I want it