EPISODE 100: Creation Together with Darrel Falk!

[@James-oj6ck]

I really am glad to see Christians who disagree both lift up Christ to glorify HIM.

[@Prometheus_Bound]

Todd, you are one of the only reasons that I as a former YEC have any respect left for YECs. There is so much vitriol (and ignorance) in so much of the YEC movement! Your work is important, and your bridge building crucial to getting YEC an ear with old earthers and evolutionists. Darrell's anecdote about "flat earthers" sounds like the same attitude YECs often have about those who disagree with them. How can you convince someone who you have no respect for? So, thanks for your respect and Christian love!

[@TeiStacja]

Greetings from Gdansk, Poland! Presbyterians, creationists exists there :)

[@cuthalionxvi]

Really appreciate attempts to actually talk with the people you disagree with! I was a little surprised to hear you say you hadn't really done much of that before you started meeting with Dr Falk, and sad to hear you haven't seen many other people do it either. Even though these differences matter, caring about each other also matters, and two camps that don't associate won't change each other's minds anyway.

[@wandawiebe1581]

Appreciated the kind, respectful dialogue on both sides. God wishes us to understand truth, about Him and about His creation, but He reasons with us giving us the freedom to choose, including the freedom to change our mind. I appreciate the demonstration of such an attitude on both sides, and the modeling of such attitude in practice in an actual discussion (rather than a debate).

[@michaelrobinson4700]

How do you know what a nonexistent entity wants us to do? And let's be clear - "creation" isn't a thing, isn't real, is intellectually dishonest, and doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny in any way whatsoever. Agree with you about it being respectful, but it's strange that you think you know that your deity of choice wants us to understand "truth", posted on a channel which is definitionally about anything but.

[@raskolnikov6443]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@michaelrobinson4700have you ever repented and have you been filled with the Holy Spirit? Have you ever meditated on the scriptures? My guess is not. Your comment shows that you are not as wise as you think you are.

[@raskolnikov6443]

@@michaelrobinson4700I hope you get to know Christ as well.

[@michaelrobinson4700]

@@raskolnikov6443 How can I "know" anything about someone that evidently doesn't exist?

[@joshuaturner1072]

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[@LetsTalkCreation]

Thank you!

[@LetsTalkCreation]

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[@raskolnikov6443]

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[@charleshawes2316]

Thanks guys

[@LetsTalkCreation]

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[@dantuck6028]

I find that some of these sincere brothers and sisters in Christ who I think are dead wrong on origins (I'm firmly YEC) seem to often have a beautiful, sophisticated grasp on eschatology, that I've come to find more scriptural than the common premillennial understanding of many I agree with on origins. So I find myself wishing that we could expand some of these dialogues to include both perspective of Genesis and Revelation. I think we could get to the crux of where the common disconnect between brothers.

[@raskolnikov6443]

I’m Amill and a YEC

[@Jeshua-JehovahSaves]

❤100❤

[@RaymondCopplestone]

I understand your purpose in this presentation. I was expecting a technical discussion. Eg. From where/what do theistic evolutionists derive their position. It can hardly be supported by the Bible, and the historical scientific evidence is rather more compatible with the short Biblical history than with the great ages postulated for life by atheists. It appears that theistic evolutionists suffer from having come under the influence of atheism.

[@roblangsdorf8758]

I would like to hear an update on Catastrophic plate tectonics and on the half-life of the earth's magnetic field. They both point to a young earth. Then it would be great to hear about how complex the human genome is and how many other lifeforms have to coexist in humans to keep them functioning. Why bother with imaginary evolution when specified creation makes so much more sense.

[@MrLogo73]

How does the earth's magnetic field point to a 'young earth'?

[@Fordry]

​@@MrLogo73it's strength is falling at a rate consistent with the timeframe of YEC.

[@ji8044]

"They both point to a young earth" Absolutely not true.

[@ji8044]

@@Fordry False

[@Fordry]

​@@ji8044 so the Earth's magnetic field is not falling precipitously at a rate where it just physically wouldn't work for that to extend further back than the thousands of years the Bible tells us has passed from creation? Because that's exactly what is going on and arguing against that would literally be like saying gravity isn't a thing. The mainstream position is that, based on theoretical ideas only, somehow it's a cycle, called dynamos, that oscillates between weak and strong fields with pole flips at the weak end. So, what, we just happen to be right at the point that would align with the YEC timeline in this cycle that is purely theoretical? And this theoretical cycle has various physical issues as well. And most striking of all, other planets in the solar system are at similar stages in magnetic field decline relative to their physical differences that impact magnetic fields. It's not just earth. So you're saying that this theoretical idea, with various issues in reality, where there's no reason for different planets to all be in the same state of reduced magnetic fields from known historical points and yet they are, makes more sense? False.

[@juniusluriuscatalus6606]

This has really slow opening and I have a bad feeling about this, considering it really seems like you're going against theistic evolution challenging Darrel Falk's position, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, can you describe what evolution is? I guess congrats for the 100th episode. I guess I'll "never know". I bet this silence comes from the fear of creationist lies being exposed on the first step. But, unlike certain people, I might be wrong?

[@abra3cadabra3]

You don’t understand evolution if you think that it can jive with creation. They are diametrically opposed to each other. Tell me you’ve never read the Bible without actually telling me you’ve never read the Bible.

[@KenJackson_US]

For several decades I argued that evolution fit well enough with Genesis, since it gives very little detail. It wasn't the Bible that convinced me that's wrong. Science convinced me. The Bible never mentions nucleotides, DNA, amino acids, proteins, polymerases, ribosomes, hormones, molecular machines, meiosis, mutation rates or bodily system hierarchy and interdependence. Not even indirectly by inference. But these are the things that shout out loud that life could NOT have evolved from a microbe. And these things were discovered by SCIENCE, _not_ the Bible.

[@dongiovanni4331]

What about the hyper evolution needed to get modern species diversity after only having 2 of each kind of animal, and 7 of each clean kind? You would have to have each successive generation be a new species, or even siblings be new species. It gets worse when you consider Old Kingdom Egypt described many modern species.

[@KenJackson_US]

KZbin censorship is evil.

[@StephenHawley-q8f]

Great program - great series and something special needed to be done for the 100th podcast, which this one delivered. However, I'm waiting for a theistic evolutionist to explain how a compassionate, loving God who cares for His creation has used the pain, suffering and brutality of evolution to bring about HIs objectives ... I'm still waiting.

[@ji8044]

I might point you then to Genesis where a compassionate loving God who cares for his creation kills every single living thing on the face of the earth save for what was on the Ark.

[@roblangsdorf8758]

@StephenHawley-q8f The real issue is how the evolutionary death process could go on for long ages and still have it be novel when Adam and Eve came along. There is also the problem of what it means for Christ to be the second Adam if there was no distinct first Adam.

[@roblangsdorf8758]

@@ji8044 Jesus said that another time is coming that will be similar to the time just before the flood. We seem to be approaching those conditions.

[@FirstActuality]

@@ji8044 It's a tendentious reading of Genesis. If God had not intervened humanity would have caused its own destruction and likely that of much of the life on earth at that time. The flood was an intervention ultimately to save mankind (and the many animal species) by preserving the life of Noah and his descendants.

[@Blues.Fusion]

Believing the straight reading of the bible text is more obedient. Jesus said in 6 days was everything created. So disbelieving that passage and substituting your own more common sense idea of theistic evolution is disbelieving Jesus himself. If the biblical claim goes against what you can stretch your faith to cover, then how much harder is it to believe someone in an old book died, came bact to life and is God?

[@MrWholphin]

I don't know Falk personally, but arguments along the lines of brotherhood don't have a good track record. Everyone confessing to be a sincere believer doesn't seem to be a credible covering against error, given what has happened in the last century. I can see two motives and several outcomes. Motive one: Stick to current position and overcome the other. Which seems to me a bit disingenuous to present as a pluralistic forum. Motive two: Minimise the issue itself (brotherhood/ecumenism). TEs are desperate to have acceptance from biblical conservatives and acceptance from academia, so most outcomes seem to favour them. LetsTalkCreation, and others, have demonstrated that YEC can be presented positively, without sniping or premature triumphalism. So I guess I don't really understand what the gain is here, or what the motives and realistic outcome expectations are.

[@Tistezegge]

To me dr Falk’s position still sounds heretical.. It looks like an eagle, desperately doing everything it can to dress and look like a chicken because it’s afraid all the other chicken will laugh at him…

[@jackwt7340]

If the cells in your body are very sophisticated machines, why can't the black ball inside the Earth be very sophisticated machine ? 🧿

[@jackwt7340]

The truth is very simple. The black ball inside the Earth created humans today, 5,000 years ago. The African seeds emerged from the coast of Africa and the Londoner seeds emerged from the North Sea. The Welsh seeds came from the Celtic Sea, so the Welsh are a little different from the English.

[@Mouthwash019283]

Afraid to bite, but okay...? What is this referring to?