Episode 129 ... Deleuze pt. 5 - Difference

[@markfoster9304]

To this day, the best breakdown of Deleuze I’ve come across. That’s incredibly impressive

[@justintuttle1287]

This is a straight up "drop the mic" episode. Fantastic conclusion to this specific series. Love the whole program!

[@olivercroft5263]

Damn, so true

[@jaykay4433]

First ever public comment on KZbin, you're a gift brother. Thank you for the content

[@tohigherhighs]

Those 5 episodes were so informative so well put that I cant wait to finish this one and start the series agian. Truely well done

[@teporeliot]

This entire series was frickin' excellent. This machine is truly grateful for having flowed into this rhizome.

[@screensaves]

Beautiful episode, love the time and work u put into explaining things to the masses!

[@NoahsUniverse]

This is absolutely an amazing series on Deleuze

[@questioningheart]

It is just fantastic on Deleuze...

[@JuanPabloAnayaArce]

Great work of synthesis and clarity explaining Deleuze. Thanks a lot for that.

[@questioningheart]

It was really well done..; All the 5 videos on Deleuze...

[@grunchidetrap476]

This is the best motivational speech I’ve ever heard lol

[@ANDDIRECTLLC]

The problem with difference over identity comes up in material production situations or planning a production process. Doesn’t a auto plant have to have an identity as a plan? Wouldn’t you have to identify the parts of the production process that can produce a particular product as well as the identity of the inputs?

[@nightoftheworld]

18:10 Yeah but the _issue_ burning here is an economic one, *liquid modernity.* Yeah sure abstractly/philosophically, identity is fluid and experimentation can create wonderful new connections. However, applied to economic reality this can be terrible for people and the stability of their lives, witnessed today in our situation of modern precarity. When corporations take that notion (as they have arguably been doing, LGBTQ/contract work) and use it to renovate capitalist exploitation/banality? The corporate phrase is _”this is a chance to reinvent yourself and find the hidden potential of your personality”_ and the reality on the street is an uptick in meaningless gig economy jobs amid a global race to the bottom. Yes.. explore new connections authentically, but when that becomes a justification for economic insecurity/exploitation then people get real sick.

[@olivercroft5263]

This makes sense

[@LucBoeren]

Amazing stuff, thanks a bunch of lots Stephen

[@thejazzoftibet]

indescribably beautiful, Deleuze was nothing short of a genius

[@musaabmomani4022]

"People want a given identity from a third party" what was the first thing that popped up in my head? the political Marxist experience in the soviet union, people there were (assigned by their government) as a player in a historical play towards (progressing). and this is very cool trust me (to some extent at least), you did not have to think or over think about (me, life, others) bullshit anymore. (if you have watched some series of old Russian people flirting that the soviet union was "comfortable" to live in) i guess this was the main reason. by saying here you go, this is a meaning of your life. you don't have to think about it anymore. and if anyone did not follow this meaning, that would mean that they are a traitors for the big historical holy plan. but, as Deleuze said, and i do too believe in the same (giving rigid identity to a rhizome will definitely emerge problems), because there is no such thing.

[@lonelycubicle]

Curious what Richard Rorty would think.

[@matthewmelson1780]

Wait two episodes in one day?? What did we do to deserve such a blessing?

[@nightoftheworld]

15:08 isn’t a major factor behind people desiring answers to “how should one live/act”-that we live in a society where if one doesn’t conform to a high level of accuracy they risk falling into the crushing depths of the economic abyss?

[@jamesrichie7844]

I'd really love an episode on Todd May, maybe on Death or a Decent Life? Great video!

[@clementdato6328]

I think Deleuze made a little technical mistake here by thinking city planning as the major reason of what a city will grow into. City planning as a subject or policy is a machine. From what I understand, machines don't exist by itself. They are emergent phenomena of primal tribes, with a low degree of organisation and a high degree of homogeneity in between its components. First, people have everything in proximity. Then, for some reason, without any prevoyants organising globally, the merchants find it more favourable to concentrate on a certain area, factories find themselves cheap land in places that people are less tempted to live in. This gradual convergence creates some prototypes of a city. This, at the same time, inspires studies of city planning and accumulates practical experiences of the subject matter. This process, let's call it institutionalisation, brings us the machine of city planning. Successful examples are learned and imitated in other cities. This arise of city planning machine is, however, not a monopoly. There are still a huge number, if not the majority, of cities that are formed in the first way (shaped by "market" or flow) rather than dictated by the machine of city planning.

[@freddytackos]

i love this. would it be fair to give this philosophy a name? Deleuzian? Rizomatic? Neo-Existentialism?

[@larrysweeney6131]

Great stuff as always. Im sure Deleuse is saying more than this but few would deny that the world is systemic, or has "flow," i.e., everything impacts everything else, but I still find myself seeking an organizing principle that "flows" through all the "flows" and maybe gives them some general direction. Could love be that primary flow? E.g., Dr King said, "The Universe bends toward justice" which Tillich affirms as "the fullest expression of love." If u add a few random acts of individual kindness to that definition it might be a good beginning for how one "should live." After all, what do we really know about Truth? Maybe we should just focus on love and be done with it? Ha! Keep up the good work.

[@stefanthorndahl1666]

incredible! a new episode. Are you actually the long-lost American separated-by-birth-brother of Alain de Botton? By the way, do you know Jan Gehl? A Danish proponent of public life studies, just like Jane Jacobs. It also takes quite a humble approach.

[@ANDDIRECTLLC]

Have you heard of the ontologist who extended Deleuze names DeLanda? I think he synthesizes some contradictions or ambiguous categories

[@jeremygold933]

*Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime by Beck slowly fades in*

[@kclaptrap338]

Ms. Cleo? You really dated yourself with that reference. I love your work, glad you're back.

[@teporeliot]

I hope that at some point Deleuze acknowledges Saussure as the originator of the whole 'identities are defined by relations of difference' idea. We have structural linguistics to thank for that notion. Looking forward to reading Deleuze. I'm still a virgin.

[@CancelledPhilosopher]

Identity is emergent and contingent.

[@loxeggcheese]

best to be like water

[@nightoftheworld]

10:23 anyone have examples of any cities which have evolved “rhizomatically” versus ones which were “cordoned off”

[@vangeest]

Hefei and Wuxi

[@mysticrealness]

amazing, it's almost like taoism

[@dionysusyphus]

So elegant

[@Brian-ti6tt]

Shout out to Miss Cleo.

[@jakobson219]

Perhaps I'm not getting something but isn't a lot of this stuff about identity justs the old time honored idea of nominalism?

[@nicolaslozanopulido4365]

5:36

[@seanpatrickrichards5593]

"the desire to be great.. the desire to be appreciate" seems to kinda fuel people to "stick to a thing" somewhat.. Elon Musk sticking to some of his businesses 16 hours a day proved pretty fruitful for him and humanity.. all kinds of artists and skilled trades people (yo yo ma) etc produce great stuff and advancements in skills by staying committed to certain activities.. but yeah they sacrifice out on other life stuff for sure.. but they do other stuff too.. to do great stuff does sometimes seem to take commitment and sacrifice :/ Also, if he stays committed to being a trumpet player life wont play out how he expects.. theres infinite variety and surprises no matter how one spends there time.. you cant really say that identities arent real and then say someone is "stuck doing one thing".. they can be doing infinite things while "doing their thing" :) Fine, they're not a single identity, so even the person who thinks they're a single identity is living infinitely varied identities even by "sticking to their identity.. activity.. or partner", but at least their resume, skill or family-photobook grow more :)

[@DonatedBanjo]

Deleuze doesn't argue that identity isn't real. He does not deny that identities are and exist. What he argues is that difference is primary to identity or rather, differences produce identities. Not the other way around which has been the standard mode of thought (or what he calls Image of Thought) for most of the western tradition.

[@nightoftheworld]

Dante DiAndrea identity is fluid

[@jeremygold933]

Cryyyyyyyyying

[@rodrigodiazcasas384]

again, this rejection of "identities" is what nietzsche afirmed centuries before Dellleuze and Guatari. What is the novelty here? We have all agreed that the only way to finde the true self is rejecting the statism in institutions. God has been dead for centuries, for those who seek their own truth. I again fail to grasp the novelty in this theory, thou i completly agree with it.

[@name-zk7ro]

Whos miss cleo

[@flynnjaman]

You Only Live Ontologically #YOLO

[@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt]

Is it true Stephen beat his ex wife?

[@mementoxmori16]

what?