Without Marco: -Big Mom pirates arrive and join forces with Beast Pirates -Big Mom never gets amnesia which means it takes longer for Luffy to get out of Udon -Chopper doesn't have enough time to make a cure -Zoro doesn't have time to heal -Queen takes out Chopper -Nami gets hit with a blast breath
@dwightsmith112325 күн бұрын
Law just speaking nonsense 😂😂 bro hates being wrong
@khalodetunde810512 күн бұрын
@@dwightsmith1123 he didn’t give her amnesia that was king
@slthking767225 күн бұрын
Seb literally pointed out multiple reasons Marco helped and Law was just like "Nah i think they would still survive" without explaining why. Yet they'll attack Seb for doing the same thing. Crazy 😂
@daviddaagod13024 күн бұрын
Literally 😂😂 then Larry will just say “ok and” like what ?? 😂😂
@R.I.P_Roberto25 күн бұрын
Lawrence don't be knowing what he's talking about when that bias kicks in. 😂
@Javixan25 күн бұрын
I love this channel but the Marco disrespect gets to a level where it’s just insane 😭😭
@andreasreichhelm252319 күн бұрын
Seb is the GOAT of this pod. What an amazing podcast, keep it up!
@SmoothWeeb22 күн бұрын
Law shifted really sneakily from "Marco wasn't a key player for the W at Wano" to "there is NO panel in which Marco is simultaneously blocking King and Queen" 😂
@SpencerClassic23 күн бұрын
Sabo DEFINITELY NOT beating Zoro. Zoro was cutting thru Kaido’s Blast Breath, cutting up Prometheus ☀️ , and slicing thru King’s Imperial flame.
@Yonkomugi25 күн бұрын
Larry spitting on sabo facts. He strong. But that's it he's just strong.
@dariuscarte26 күн бұрын
He lost me when he said he think luffy would submit to shanks but don’t even submit to his own grandpa
@tobilobaayetan318321 күн бұрын
His grandpa ain’t even got all out
@Withjoy200017 күн бұрын
Submitted to kuma
@DarrellSimmons-m7b16 күн бұрын
WRONG@@Withjoy2000
@Withjoy200016 күн бұрын
@@DarrellSimmons-m7b then did Kidd submit to shanks? Or is shanks not capable of conquering Kidd?
@DarrellSimmons-m7b16 күн бұрын
@Withjoy2000 Kidd didn't submit to Shanks lol Losing a fight is not the same as submitting to somebody.
@aquajon870125 күн бұрын
i didn't know someone gifted me nakama status thanks y'all love the community.
@dariusarnett944325 күн бұрын
“The monster trio” is no more it’s now “THE MACHO QUARTO”💪🏾
@klaussmith627317 күн бұрын
Seb is my MVP
@Juice_the_Guru16 күн бұрын
This the first argument I've seen put into a short where Larry not fighting for his life 😂😂
@jackingram959922 күн бұрын
Seb is wrong too ik he doesn’t know the moment their talking abt but Gildarts actually flexed on Natsu . Mihawk didn’t go all out he didn’t show the REAL difference between him and Zoro where Gildarts did and Gildarts told Natsu after warning him . Gildarts was act on Demon timing where Mihawk was clowning Zoro
@AcedOnez25 күн бұрын
I dont think akainu is evil for what he did on ohara he listened to orders and completed the job but to me what he did to that marine in marineford was definitely something that was like woah
@dwightsmith112325 күн бұрын
2:19:15 Law just hates being wrong cause ain't no way hes saying something so dumb
@kzothanpuia72326 күн бұрын
About the natsu submit look at luffy at sabaodi where he told to run
@AcedOnez25 күн бұрын
That way different luffy and the crew had an objective to survive during those five days not the beat their opponents luffy after claiming that he was going to beat someone never chickened out or got his will suppressed natsu literally said he was going to beat gildarts and got literally punked although a great moment we’ve seen luffy facing overwhelming force and not back down when it came to him wanting to beat his opponent
@Withjoy200017 күн бұрын
@@AcedOnez no did you forget them trying to jump kizura and then running and then trying to run from kuma. Sabaody was literally their wake up call to tell them they ain’t like that yet.
@grahambaskin15 күн бұрын
If you read chapter 999, and 1006 there are clear panels of Marco stalling, and taking on both King and Queen.
@perrythedapapus415314 күн бұрын
Start putting respect on marco fr
@davidadegbola241726 күн бұрын
Best Episode of the pod so far😂😂😂
@kreatorkeon447825 күн бұрын
I’m catching up to this at work on some down time.
@tonyfknb389626 күн бұрын
The most important answer that Oda gave to one of those questions on the SBS was who fed Luffy on the Egghead arc when he came out of gear 5th and was about to get killed by Saturn. Oda said whoever did it had to move at the speed of light. Meaning it was Kizaru! This is by far the most important piece of info to me! Because that means a Navy Admiral directly opposed one of the elders, helped an Emperor of the Sea Luffy to fight Saturn! His superior! I think he was so broken after killing his best friend Vegapunk and almost killing his adopted nephew Sentomaru. That he is now left questioning himself. Now that being said, hear me out. We already had 1 navy Admiral leave and join the Blackbeard pirates in Akoiji. Even though I think he is Sword. What if, what if, Kizaru leaves and joins Luffy!? This way there is someone on the Strawhats that can rival Akoiji, while Luffy fights B.B. he can't fight both, I even think Akoiji is stronger then B.B. so how great of a story that would be, 2 ex navy Admirals now both pirates, facing off one another. Kizaru with the Strawhats, Akoiji with the Blackbeards. This would be hard for Akoiji because he already fought Akainu. Now he would have to fight Kizaru. Such a great story line and drama. I honestly think all the ex warlords will join the Cross Guild. And I think alot of Marines will join the Strawhats for the final battle. Like Fujitora, Smoker, Kizaru, Koby, Garp if alive still. I think Akoiji will betray the B.Bs or get found out as a traitor and join Luffy too. I say this because think of all the big names left for Luffy n the Strawhats to fight. Blackbeard pirates, possible Redhair Pirates, Cross Guild, Akainu and the Navy, the God Knights, the 5 elders and Imu! No way they can do it all alone. The grand fleet will be involved and the Revolutionary army but they ain't beating all those big names. So I really think some ex Admirals and Vice Admirals will defect. After realizing how corrupt and evil Imu really is. And how they just erase whole islands just because. So it will cause them to really question their loyalty and what they are even doing. It's not justice just slaughter. Civilians, kids, women, elders, all for nothing because they look at them as insects. I wouldn't doubt Akainu possibly defects too. Maybe not. But it's a possibility. Maybe Dragon convinces him. But Kizaru helping Luffy, is huge!! Imo. And opens the door to so many possibilities and a chance for another Admiral to leave the Navy.
@KiyotakaAyanokoji.72122 күн бұрын
I'd say if things played out differently like Zoro and Sanji went directly to King.... All other strong guys match their ops perfectly then Marco's presence wouldn't be necessary. But Marco kinda played a major role in so many clutch like situations where he held off people ....That was really necessary bro
@muhahill356616 күн бұрын
i've been saying for years that the roster of "almost marines" is so crazy
@R.I.P_Roberto25 күн бұрын
Biggest pause moment in OP, is Perospero threatening Ceasar Clown. 😂
@acosme_zombie544225 күн бұрын
Love the show it sucks I haven’t been able to catch a live in a while but I watch them all at work, keep up the great work guys #buggygang
@ronaldjackson118925 күн бұрын
Luffy also basically gave up being a pirate after ace. If you were to kill natsu's friends he would 100% rage out regardless of the situation.
@jonathankigozi337324 күн бұрын
Natsu isn’t a conqueror, he constantly doubts his own strength and resolves. It’s not his fault, it’s because of the power of friendship
@donvalladares693024 күн бұрын
luffy did the same thing
@jonathankigozi337323 күн бұрын
@ nah I get that, but the difference is Luffy will find the resolve to do it himself to protect his crew, in this latest season Natsu in reference to Ignia and the Water god stated “I’m too weak to do it myself” and asked his friends to be a crutch until he could. I feel like if Natsu has CoC, he’s one of the people who blooms it end of series in a fight.
@malcolms53519 күн бұрын
It's kinda weird how many people don't actually pay attention to the character and just go off surface level claims and forget everything that happened in previous arcs. Natsu is far from a Luffy clone. He actually does things his own way and based on his own experiences and relation to the situation or person. While Luffy just does everything his own way and says screw the consequences. And doesn't outright change throughout his story besides Sabaody and Marineford. And that his character changes people's minds or perspective. The embodiment of freedom (at least what it means in his own eyes)
@Withjoy200017 күн бұрын
@@jonathankigozi3373 do you not remember him telling Arlong that he couldn’t do anything besides beat him and that’s why he needs a crew?
@abenezermurid626924 күн бұрын
Law that was wild that's right there is a bad take
@jeromegorleku83279 күн бұрын
I wanted to add, I'm pretty sure with the whole Natsu not being a conqueror thing is accurate but for a different reason to what you guys are saying. I don't think he loses out on being a Conqueror because he got punked I think its more of a misalignment in his mind, body and spirit, because I feel like the WILL you need to become a conqueror can only be achieved through an intrinsic understanding of yourself. And if you finish fairytail you realise a large part of Natsu's life and self are unknown to him properly and he's almost constantly learning more and more about himself in real time. I think in certain moments, he has the instincts of a conqueror and I believe he would be a character who'd have the longest foreshadowing for it cause he'd struggle to gain any proper mastery.
@jeromegorleku83279 күн бұрын
Adding to this I feel like that's why he gives ichigo vibes cause he's literally the same thing. I feel like being a conqueror is complicated because we see such headstrong and genuinely powerful/talented guys with conquerors haki but I feel like we forget that in order to be a conqueror you must have something to conqueror and you must know your place in the world. If you're not the strongest but you're preparing in the background to usurp the position from other strong people you are still a conqueror because your will is dominate and control is not diminished by logical planning or perceived weakness. Deception and caution are parts of the art of war too.
@Withjoy200017 күн бұрын
Listen I’m gonna say this once Y’all don’t know what it means to be a conqueror. By most of y’all standards Luffy himself shouldn’t be a conqueror or white beard or shanks or Garp. If you think any main character isn’t a Coc user you’ve missed the plot. A Coc user at their core, is that guy. So why would the person who’s the most interesting and influential person in their world not be a Coc user?
@manuelogunleye488226 күн бұрын
Plus he was one of the first ones who use Ryuo in Dressrosa
@DaKing54025 күн бұрын
What are you talking about? Nobody used advance conquerors In dressrosa what?😂
@dennis266723 күн бұрын
@@DaKing540nobody said advanced conquers
@deadkirby227026 күн бұрын
67 bangers in a week , I’ve been counting boys
@vtruee294825 күн бұрын
Thank God Larry didn’t intervene with the second argument lmao but seb was right Marco was needed for the pirate mink samurai alliance to win, but then when the panels were brought up Law was right about those specific panels but Marco was needed so seb was fs right about that
@shavarclarke721225 күн бұрын
2:19:33 i had to skip thru the marco hate👀
@KapnSpauldinG25 күн бұрын
Calling it here, Zoro Vs Mihawk won't happen, I'm getting the idea that neither Mihawk or shanks will make it to the end alive. Them sacrificing themselves is gonna happen somehow
@DaKing54025 күн бұрын
Your kind of delusional Zoro vs Mihawk is 100% happening shanks vs luffy tho that might not happen lmao
@coleweber43626 күн бұрын
W vid guys, sad I missed it.
@GirthyPapi26 күн бұрын
Girthy episode boys
@loversedits649826 күн бұрын
Larry and sev plz stay consistent on your sanji takes , in recent episodes you were saying sanji over kid and law and now you ranked him below them 😑
@leepiece448525 күн бұрын
Yall don't write ONE PIECE. The Author SAID SABO GOT THE NAME FOR A REASON
@jackingram959926 күн бұрын
bro ik one piece w be around for a few more years but i need yall on HxH as a side gig to One Piece 😭 it’s One Piece w a darker tone, yall would dominate the HxH scene like you’ve done w One Piece
@jackingram959922 күн бұрын
nah imma keep saying it until it happens i wanna see Dragon vs Akainu . everytime i think of where Dragon should be at when we see him i think of a worthy opponent for this built up character, and honestly since Garling is older now i wanna see Akainu . he’s prob the second strongest world government member from imu i think
@nimbusxs880623 күн бұрын
The girth increases every episode
@tonyfknb389626 күн бұрын
2:52:52 omg so sick of this. When zoro n Luffy said "they" to nami after talking to B.B. they were referring to his whole crew!!! Watch the episode. We are introduced to them all. The at the very beginning the bird get shot and they can't believe no one could have shot it, but that was the 1st one, then the horse and the apple Luffy eats is #2 & 3, then Burgess yelling, that's 4. Then BB at the end that's 5. The whole episode is literally an introduction to the Blackbeard pirates! Then after they say "they" It goes to all of the B.Bs walking down the street looking huge. To show how big n strong they are. There is no alternative meaning about it. Nothing to do with a multiple personality. Re watch the episode people and pay attention n realize the whole episode is all about the introduction to them all. So when Nami thinks BB is solo and refers to him as so. They correct her by saying they. Because they already put it together that all the other pirates they came across that day. Are his crew and all together. So yes it's they. Because they were all there. That's it! Stop this "they" argument. It's so old. So played out, it's a weak argument. And it's just flat out wrong. Come up with so new info. The teeth thing doesn't make sense. Because everytime BB is on screen I pay close attention to see if there is any personality changes, and see if the teeth change to match a personality swap. I try counting to see if there is 3 moods and every single time it's a big NO. No mood changes, no teeth changes, no personality changes. He yells at times. He gets angry at times, and sometimes he laughs. But nothing consistent. Nothing obvious, nothing matching to the teeth. And most the time I'm reaching myself to see if it lines up. Never does. They = B.B crew. That's all folks.
@benlong730619 күн бұрын
Do you think a Black beard's Dark Dark Fruit would be more powerful during a Solar Eclipse? in the intro during the Reverie Arc A solar eclipse occurs and Blackbeard appears next. thought that might have been a hint
@stephonheredia912916 күн бұрын
Marco was 100% not needed cuz zoro wouldn’t had made it to the roof top in general due to Marco not being there meaning zoro would fight king and sanji would fight queen chopper could of taken the cure for himself and then make more for everyone else that survived without the use of Maro flames jimbei can literally just tell the fish not to carry any ship up the waterfall after they get up there and jimbei definitely clears anyone u put infront of him
@Xenonital8 күн бұрын
49:08 luffy has moments JUST how natsu got punked by gildarts, not really punch just discouraged seeing this power gap. Mihawk vs luffy, Luffy seen the future and if he did his gomu gomu no cannon on mihawk he was slicing his hands off, SO LUFFY USED BUGGY AS A SHIELD AND DIPPED. as well kizaru had luffy on the ground crying feeling hopeless. That dude told his crew to run, we arent on that level. Natsu is defiantly a conquerors ESPIECALLLY at the end of the series.
@sionejones332819 күн бұрын
Dat boy Larry said just end chopper life 😭
@jonathanpatino141016 күн бұрын
I think one of the main things that naruto has on One Piece is that the what if conversations are much more interesting and abundant. One Piece a lot of times feels like that scene in Infinity War where Dr Strange reveals that this is the one scenario where we win. (IMO) Shout out to you guys for 176 episodes of long podcasts but some of these arguments are feeling really forced and clearly yall are trolling and taking advantage of people’s lack of comprehension in literature and tone. No disrespect to yall fr cuz im still entertained and nobody talks One Piece like yall. Full disrespect to the other people i mentioned tho
@vtruee294825 күн бұрын
Ima keep it real the call section is where I leave the podcast some of the questions be so cringe and boring
@MiseryAvenue25 күн бұрын
2:20:25 larry just smiling killed me lol
@DbpLukcy25 күн бұрын
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@JoseMorales-ep7id23 күн бұрын
Larry, not trying to let no one talk always rushing. Everybody wants to go off on the dumbest. Tangents
@manuelogunleye488226 күн бұрын
The disrespect on Sabo is beyond insane. 😂😂😂😂 Sabo extreme Diff King , Lucci , and Marco
@tonyfknb389626 күн бұрын
Right!!!! Like wtf? I love Sabo as a character and he is beating Lucci for sure! And I think he stalemates vs King
@tonyfknb389626 күн бұрын
Now I see why they call Sa.D Bo Sad Bo. Because he is sad from all the unwarranted hate he gets from these 2 😂😂
@danyal618126 күн бұрын
Sabo deserves no respect, he ain't got any good feats
@danyal618126 күн бұрын
@@tonyfknb3896Based on what? Nothing. Sabo doesn't beat any any 1st commander
@grillyskillz690925 күн бұрын
Extreme diff is a stretch I’d say high- mayyyyybe mid diff
@pyefamilyfishing-travel-42713 күн бұрын
What about Kuma vs luffy and he realize power gap
@paperchasintyy609925 күн бұрын
Natsu folded in front of the power of Gildarts the same way Luffy folded when he was in the face of insane power such as Saboedy or when he faced his first real loss after losing Ace. Luffy gave up and would’ve been down n out if not for Jimbei. Even conquerors have their moments lmao thank you Larry for sticking up for that boy Natsu. They def different situations especially considering Luffy was seemingly losing his friends, however Gildarts is still a bigger threat than what they faced on that island. However I’m not trying to knock him for losing Ace just because that’s his brother anyone would be heartbroken, just said that to say that even conquerors have moments when they almost give up sometimes.
@paperchasintyy609925 күн бұрын
Luffy isn’t the best example of this but Seb keeps saying no conquerors act like that yet Doffy was cowering to Kaido plus there is a psychological aspect to it seeing as Gildarts is this ideal he’s been chasing yet never knew just how insanely scary he can be when actually trying.
@jackingram959922 күн бұрын
i disagree w Larry i truly feel like Natsu is like Luffy but that moment w Gildarts was crazy . idk i’m 50/50 tho cause i feel like Luffy might do the same w Shanks . like Natsu and Gildarts have the same relationship as Luffy and Shanks
@anthonyherrera229724 күн бұрын
2:22:34 I didn’t know law was smoking that seb pack lol seb was getting cooked up ngl 💀
@daviddaagod13024 күн бұрын
He wasn’t smoking anything 😂😂make no points to counter what seb said
@tylerteni899622 күн бұрын
I’m so sad I missed this ep the Law and Seb beef was hot, even though Law was being so loud and being so wrong
@tylerteni899622 күн бұрын
Also it’s wild that Larry never gets on Law when he’s wrong but if Seb was sayin that Larry would be screamin
@AcedOnez25 күн бұрын
Togashi is definitely a better mangaka than Oda but both goats
@grillyskillz690925 күн бұрын
Wow. Sabo beats Zoro until eos in my humble opinion.
@nexist__fade914318 күн бұрын
Tbh zoro bodies them he gonna have a tough time but he can still do it pre time skip
@Shishio751225 күн бұрын
When did they talk about kizaru
@dennis266723 күн бұрын
Nevee
@chuy181226 күн бұрын
🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥
@YungHavokk18 күн бұрын
Bro did NOT use no diff right 😭😭
@SnowmanOSF20 күн бұрын
Ichigo is a conquer bro whatttt????
@shayan748923 күн бұрын
Seb😱😱
@ronaldjackson118925 күн бұрын
Bro you cant compare any character in op to shanks bullets conquerors was cancelled out by luffys. Shanks probably has the strongest in the entire verse. And mind you this wouldnt be pre timeskip shanks this would be yonko shanks with two arms flexing because that is the proper comparison gildarts is like 40
@2xttv97425 күн бұрын
@pollofritto857825 күн бұрын
Kizaru food????
@MiseryAvenue25 күн бұрын
Yooo
@kirbthestoner212226 күн бұрын
@kirbthestoner212226 күн бұрын
@esteviajero26 күн бұрын
Daily reminder that zoro is a future helmeppo rival thats your goat. Btw
@christopherstainback946124 күн бұрын
black clover have the best females
@arnavmekala457819 күн бұрын
Well One Piece is on another break week so.......
@jonathankigozi337324 күн бұрын
Natsu also fought Gildarts on Tenrou the ark before a semi time skip, natsus not a conqueror
@Withjoy200017 күн бұрын
By most of y’all’s standards luffy shouldn’t be a conqueror
@Blanka-Ehonda22 күн бұрын
Listening to Lawrence rant about Marco was so hard to listen to. Please never cook again
@moniiiluv3 күн бұрын
Larry got bad takes fasho😂😂😂 fairytale my guy really ????
@grillyskillz690925 күн бұрын
Larry my boy you tweaking 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sabo is at bare minimum admiral lvl. Source just trust me bro 😂
@grillyskillz690925 күн бұрын
I think sabo was one of the first to showcase advanced armament add that to the flame flame come on fam he has a dragon inspired fighting style all his named attacks are gonna be insane when the time comes.
@kiruyauchiha801217 күн бұрын
The specific reason imo why Natsu wouldn’t have Conquerors despite his similarity to Luffy, which does correlate to Larry’s point of him being similar to Ichigo is that he lacks a goal. He has the willpower, recklessness, and straight forward attitude but he doesn’t have a driving force or end to push toward, just like Ichigo, which is why they don’t have Conquerors
@tonyfknb389626 күн бұрын
1:39:48 Gol D. Roger would be like Stone Cold Steve Austin, or maybe Andre the Giant. And then Luffy would be Stone Cold. Not the attitude wise. But how he came up as the Ring Master lol basically a nobody. But then Came into his own when took on the Stone Cold persona. Took over the whole WWF. Was the face of it. The highest paid guy, sold the most merch. And was the number 1 guy. That's Luffy in that sense. Kaido could be Untertaker or Kane. Or maybe Kaido is Undertaker and King is Kane. Zoro could also be like an Undertaker. Sanji is X-Pac. Lol Nami is like Trish Stratus or Stephanie Mcmahon. Black bird would be Vince Mcmahon because if Luffy is Stone Cold, him and Vince had the best rivalry ever. Then I would say Shanks is Brett The Hitman Hart. Shawn Michaels was a d bag. That would Doflamingo by far 😂 Idk I could keep going. Big mom is Rikishi 😂 The Rock was right up there with Stone Cold on popularity and merch sells and was the number 2 guy until Stone Cold left. So maybe Zoro or maybe Shanks too idk. Maybe Lucci? Garp could be Rick Flair. Ok i gotta stop. Still need a John Cena. Kid could be Kurt Angle. Just because of his walk song and how everyone would sing, you suck, you suck, you suck, you suck! Cus Kid sucks
@DaKing54025 күн бұрын
FAIRY FAIL
@tonyfknb389626 күн бұрын
Why is Seb so obsessed with Queen? This is the 2nd big argument that Seb has made, yelling going nuts, defending Queen ive seen in like the last 2 months. Why? He isnt that special imo. Got pieced up and handled. But yet Seb dies on the hill of Queen is so amazing and stronger then everyone. And to be fair what Law was saying is literally what basically played out in the story. I mean, luffy beat Kaido solo gear 5th. Law n Kid beat big mom. And their crews handled Kaidos crew. Big moms crew wasnt even there? Just 1 guy and he was with the alliance because he was against big mom n kaido teaming up. So what changes? Not sure i understand Sebs point. Marco didnt have a big role, cus wasnt about him. So just confused. Because what played out is what Law was saying and his point. Did it not?
@dynamite_dynamite595426 күн бұрын
You said Marco didn’t play a big role and you said Big Mom’s crew wasn’t even there. My brother in Christ, do you know why most of Big Mom’s crew wasn’t there? The moment you realize is the moment you pose with Law for the L trophy😂.
@D.Livio9621 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@2xttv97425 күн бұрын
Sabo > egg head lucci
@KingNikaDKota25 күн бұрын
Missed D stream. Sorry fellas, I’ll be there next week for sure!
@ronaldjackson118925 күн бұрын
If shanks flexed full power to luffy pre timeskip luffy would 100% not challenge him. You guys are bugging.
@ronaldjackson118925 күн бұрын
Liffy straight up ran from kizaru because he knew he was weaker and kizaru never even flexed 20% against the ENTIRE STRAWHAT CREW.
@Tay_9125 күн бұрын
I might be remembering wrong but wasn't Luffy fighting Sentamaru when Kizaru pulled up? It wasn't like Kizaru pulled up and showed his powers and then Luffy got scared. I don't this is a good comparison
@Shishio751225 күн бұрын
When did they talk about kizaru
@ronaldjackson118925 күн бұрын
Larry should watch edens zero if he hasn't already
@grillyskillz690925 күн бұрын
I hope he doesn’t waste his time lol
@ronaldjackson118924 күн бұрын
Nah marco did help a bit but luffy kod and law DID beat two yonko crew. If marco wasn't there they would have beat them a different way the problem is was marco necessary. The answer is yes to the specific situations he was in but the question is did they actually need marco he did like 3 things and it was really only stalling for like 5min then he would give up. If he wasn't there sanji could 100% hold on king and queen if he needed he mid diff'd queen in the 1st place. Kings only thing is his durability but it would be useless with sanji speed so king would have to release the flame to get faster and boom an opening. I think marco did obviously help but to me its would they still win without him... Absolutely they are def strong enough its just circumstances would be a little different.