Episode 19: Clan Ravnos

[@justinross4109]

Just imagining a Ravnos Methuselah and a Malkavian Methuselah having a philosophical discussion and reality just kind of warping around them

[@AnakinTheWeird]

Who needs to imagine when you can just play Morrowind?

[@justinross4109]

@@AnakinTheWeird Morrowind was a few centuries after the debate

[@quincykunz3481]

The path of paradox sounds very much like a mage philosophy; Reality is an inconsistent mess made of perceptions. I find it very interesting that it comes from the ravnos and not the tremere, who used to be mages.

[@anyoneatall3488]

To be fair it sounds more like mage philosofy If a singular mage had that as a paradigm i could easily see them becoming marauders pretty easily

[@drakethesnek6429]

The PoP is setite propaganda.

[@RedFeralWolf]

Thank you for making this video as someone who’s very new to the world of darkness I found myself falling in love with the Ravnos. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find any games where I could play one apart from one large “living world” style game and being both new to vampire and a new player well I’ll take any help I can get to avoid the final death.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

You’re very welcome 😊

[@Abyssal86]

You have been kind in sharing your knowledge, so I will tell you this. The Ravnos of the Sabbat are now the majority of the clan. I myself restrained my Ravnos pack mate during that dreadful week of nightmares. He has embraced dozens since then.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

That is one busy Ravnos 😜

[@Sara3346]

Wow this guy never ever skips an oppurtunity to throw shade on the tremere does he?

[@chihuahuaman917]

Can you please do one on the Salubri.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

I do plan on doing the Salubri and all the other major bloodlines. Working on the script for it now actually, so expect to hear about them soon!

[@KaRmaTheSchemer]

All praise be to Cain as I can play a camarilla Ravnos in the CamClub 😎👌

[@JoeStoryteller]

Great voice, captivating; subscribed!!

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Thank you very much!!

[@wolfbane7497]

14:29 Ravnos : "cocaine's a hell of a drug hehehe "

[@dragowolfx]

i am from india and the jathi and varna system was simply missunderstood by foriegners when they came to india...acording to vedas every one is born shudra but afterwards becomes anything depends on the duties he chooses in life ofc the varna system was heredetary or rather became strictly heredatary....during indian independence the classification of different castes were done by british who didnt know how the caste system worked in india....that being said caste system... was dynamic there were and still are instances were kshetriya calns became pheasants due to economic depression...jatts for example then you have great people from ancient india which didnt follow thier lineage or heredatary livelyhood...and changes thier perspective with time.....sage vishwamitra, poetess attakurri molla, the current lodhi rajpuths,parshuram...etc....thanks to british distortion of history has caused a lot problems for us.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Thanks for correcting me on that. I went with what the books provided and did presume that there were some 'inconsistencies'.

[@dragowolfx]

@@LoreByNightVtM how do you destroy a prosperous pagan civilization? distortion of history, atrocity litreature and demonization.... that is how abrahamics work...simple

[@dragowolfx]

@@LoreByNightVtM there is video on that wait let me get that in a minnute

[@dragowolfx]

@@LoreByNightVtM kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6TQg3mietyAhM0

[@rakshithanand8262]

​@@dragowolfx Another indian here with perhaps a contrary take. Whilst its true that the jathi and varna systems were a good deal freer than one might expect, especially on paper. Whilst movement between the castes was in theory by vocation there was significant social pressure to not allow such things, especially for the 'higher' castes who became power-hungry and spawned families that were loath to share their power. Brahmins my ancestors hoarded knowledge and denied education to others, kshatriya hoarded military power, shudra hoarded wealth etc etc. And of course the unotuchables who were originally criminals and miscreants became a ready scapegoat for others to exploit and abuse. If the british mischaracterised the caste structure it is because it was rotten from within long before they arrived. I condone not their atrocities but we must acknowledge our own sins before pushing 'superiority' on others. We destroyed ourselves. The british swept up the pieces. Also, I feel like characterising 'Abrahamics' as malevolent in their entirety is demonization of the sort that you rail against...

[@bjhan73]

well done

[@AGaiman]

No mention of the week of nightmares?

[@coolmanbritt]

Wouldnt chimistry for the antediluvian allow him to change history or reality and thus his own history? I find it hard to believe he would allow himself to be destroyed with such power, even "IF" he really was a wight and not an illusian made real by his own power.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

He would certainly be able to create a strong enough illusion to have those around him to think that. He wouldn't be able to change the whole world's perspective at once

[@derkrischa3720]

who is to say that the one destroyed wasn't an illusion itself?

[@lillithyukiutacrow2532]

@@derkrischa3720 that's the thing with being around a Ravanos... and Malkavians... your reality is up to them

[@theclash24]

@@derkrischa3720 I dunno because thr books wrote it occurred and the creature was destroyed. The writing tended to reveal the real canon as described like Lasombra being alive still when Lucita found out. So while mysterious things occurred the writing was pretty simple when revealing the information.

[@lolbots686]

​@@lillithyukiutacrow2532and thats the most terrifying shit about the ravnos,much like the salubri there discipline chimerstry isnt merely some blood power,it was a mix of that and fae magic. For most ravnos,they could easly screw with peoples perception,but if a ravnos gets good at it enough,a ravnos could truely screw with reality in a morbid Similarity to awakened magic to a weaker extent. And think about the fact that zapha is an antidliuvian,the 1st ravnos. Whos to say he still sleeps,yet his power is so powerful even his ilusions could strain reality.

[@MrDarthtelos]

What are the Ravnos up to? Not much after 1999. 😂

[@NyctophileXIII]

What the hell is this background music?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

We start and end with the Lore By Night theme, while the tune you are mostly hearing is Cigarette Smoke, all original tunes composed for the podcast.

[@mralba666]

Ravnos also can have mental disorder like Malkavian?

[@mrksimka1159]

Let me tell you a secret. All kindred and cainite can have problems in the head. I would argue most of them do. Malkavians are just the one unlucky to have it as a supernatural curse that makes it very obvious to observers.

[@AriFrozen]

Any kindred of any clan can have mental disorders. All the Malkavian blood does is expand the mental disorder even more.