Episode 195: Can’t Get Enough Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce, Not Sorry! | Calm Down Podcast

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Calm Down With Erin and Charissa

Calm Down With Erin and Charissa

Күн бұрын

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@teresap9541
@teresap9541 11 ай бұрын
I love the Taylor & Travis story. I like Kelce for her and her for him. Two strong, professional people, family oriented, fun loving, independent, but seeing them together just makes you happy. They will make each other better and they are just two humans--Notting Hill reference Charissa--all right now. And, go to the show. I went this summer-age 59 and loved it. You will never regret it.
@belengrazel3565
@belengrazel3565 11 ай бұрын
Travis is a perfect gentleman. Taylor is so in love and nothing to hide. Perfect duo. It’s lovely to see Taylor running to his arms and Travis so lovely wrap his arm around her. What a beautiful sight. What a beautiful smile. Very real and genuine feelings.
@bryanshapiro6977
@bryanshapiro6977 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful analysis for the non-believers to see.
@RMRetief1111
@RMRetief1111 Жыл бұрын
The Notting Hill scene 👏🤍 perfectly captured with pretty bangs too ✅ she ran like a little kid with pure joy
@charlenecharchar
@charlenecharchar Жыл бұрын
The hands behind his 🔙 was the absolute best. Taylor and Travis relationship is super real 💯. The engagement coming 🔜. Travis is a wonderful man.
@susanm7354
@susanm7354 Жыл бұрын
I watched the video of Taylor running to Travis over 30 times!😂 I love how Travis waited to put his arms around her with a big smile! 💙
@Democracydoll
@Democracydoll Жыл бұрын
The line is," I'm just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her. " 🥰
@theresavancamp7575
@theresavancamp7575 Жыл бұрын
It's just so real. No one has tried so hard to build a love and her own branch of her family than Taylor. Her heart is so full of love to give. Being a loyal fan has made me want her to stop trying to please all those unworthy of her or the guys meant to be just friends. I wanted to tell her to just wait till a guy who knows how to give as well as take has a heart as big as hers and knows she's the one. And then when ❤Taylor wasn't looking... along came ❤Travis [you two stick together, you hear?! No matter what is thrown at you, work it out - together❤ please do not mess this up or a lot more than two hearts will break- think millions]
@ladynole35
@ladynole35 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Erin.....Taylor has never had a REAL man that is a gentleman, confident, secure in himself, and protective of her. I am not a swiftie but I am a huge Travis fan and NFL football in general. I have said from the beginning that this is going the distance. I think they are a great match.
@bnwo
@bnwo Жыл бұрын
They're literally just talking about him physically. As are you, which is weird because you don't know anything about him outside of the fact that you're way too old to be fan girling some knucklehead football player guy.
@mysticbutterfly78
@mysticbutterfly78 Жыл бұрын
I hope Travis has thanked you both for being his biggest cheerleaders for this relationship. Hope you meet her soon.
@IndianaSportsConnection
@IndianaSportsConnection 11 ай бұрын
This is the worst $&@$ing thing that I have ever seen or heard in my entire lufe
@sallyj503
@sallyj503 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The Taylor /Travis story makes me really, really happy. They are so stinking cute!
@CandaceK.
@CandaceK. Жыл бұрын
I love you two! You are just saying everything I have been thinking and wanting to say to people who care...so invested in this whole Travis and Taylor thing!
@snarkycharlies
@snarkycharlies Жыл бұрын
Never in a million years would I think, "oh, gotta spray perfume and grab a mint" lolol. And so funny, Taylor has "a man. A MAN!!!" Hell yeah. 😂😂😂
@ameliadavis1979
@ameliadavis1979 Жыл бұрын
Travis probably thought she smelled good compared to him at work. 😂
@KellyEwing-ow5dp
@KellyEwing-ow5dp Жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn’t come across as mean-spirited, but her ex being the proper Englishman would have had her brush, floss and properly fold her clothes before she could kiss him. This wreckless, passionate side with Kelce seems like such a natural fit. I’m really happy for her .
@stevesolomon2348
@stevesolomon2348 Жыл бұрын
There's a video showing that she did run offstage looking for her ex, but he wasn't out in the open like Travis was. One version said that she told him she couldn't find him and had to look for him.
@stevesolomon2348
@stevesolomon2348 Жыл бұрын
Not only did she probably not spray perfume or grab a breath mint but she also didn't change out of her boots! There's a video from after the first concert, when Travis wasn't there, that shows her coming offstage and hugging her Dad and she has on flats. She didn't take the time to do that for Travis and I'm sure he didn't care.
@nobodysunderdog
@nobodysunderdog Жыл бұрын
@@stevesolomon2348 Qanon stuff. Put the pipe down Son.
@alwaysamused979
@alwaysamused979 Жыл бұрын
No shame in watching that clip. I've watched every angle....multiple times. And I start my day with a viewing, a deep sigh, and a smile 🙂
@stevesolomon2348
@stevesolomon2348 Жыл бұрын
My take on Travis standing with his hands behind his back is that he's letting Taylor take the lead. Once she starts putting her arms around his neck his arms come around her. He lets her take the lead!
@stevesolomon2348
@stevesolomon2348 Жыл бұрын
In the way Travis treats Taylor, he's showing young boys and young men, even older men, how a lady should be treated.
@mindfulness5475
@mindfulness5475 9 ай бұрын
He was waiting for her to come to him, like an Alpha Male does.
@wephotogal
@wephotogal Жыл бұрын
Swiftie here, and I am so excited for the two of them.
@mrspleats
@mrspleats 11 ай бұрын
Forever they are!! Divine The Universe brought them together🥰🤩
@jackieroy4260
@jackieroy4260 Жыл бұрын
I have never been so vested in a relationship I’m not a part of!!! #ILoveTaylor&Travis
@GailFuhlman
@GailFuhlman Жыл бұрын
I am so with you about this relationship.
@joannedevine2473
@joannedevine2473 Жыл бұрын
It actually inspires me to be in Love! Just what the World needs right now! More Love!
@richknisley9287
@richknisley9287 Жыл бұрын
Im completely guilty..say less
@terryblair966
@terryblair966 Жыл бұрын
I love the Travis and Taylor thing. I've watched it 20 times a day. I hope it works out for them.
@bryanshapiro6977
@bryanshapiro6977 11 ай бұрын
The scene of Taylor in the box banging on the glass with her moiuth wide open for all to hear her admiration of him Those who don't see it have never loved or been loved. Reminds me of the scene from The Graduate where Hoffman wants the attention for her to leave her wedding day in church.
@Durelle820
@Durelle820 Жыл бұрын
I think this was Taylor’s way of coming out to the world
@patrickplummer1027
@patrickplummer1027 Жыл бұрын
Hang in there, Charissa
@jtisme
@jtisme Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness...'waiting room war'...had me cracking up! 😅 First time listening. You both are so young& beautiful. Good girlfriend conversations are much needed, especially these days.
@trac6009
@trac6009 Жыл бұрын
Best bangs Zoey Deschanel, Taylor Swift, Anne Hathaway
@anjylkat
@anjylkat 11 ай бұрын
Gosh I’m so glad to have stumbled onto your channel/podcast today where their are real people’s voices in the video and intelligent people discussing Taylor and Travis and not some made up bullshit stories about them being engaged or things being taken totally out of context in such a way as to suggest Kylie Kelce and Donna Kelce don’t like Taylor and don’t want to sit with her. Anyway, so far s good and I am beginning to feel some relief from trying to find decent honest and real podcasts about T&T! You guys are quite knowledgeable and entertaining!
@SuePettigrew
@SuePettigrew Жыл бұрын
I have to say that I have always liked Taylor's music and what a brilliant songwriter. I have noticed this in the news and unfortunately the media is trying to destroy any semblence of normalcy for both of them. I don't follow this stuff a lot but it was stressful to see all of the overexposure etc. and scrutiny they are enduring. I do have to say that I have always thought her to be one of the most beautiful women anyone could ever see and having read up a bit since this, she is also brilliant. I hate this media circus and the ridiculous hate that revolved around them. Wishing them both time to actually get to know each other better and enjoy their time.
@tonydismukes9243
@tonydismukes9243 Жыл бұрын
The bangs look great. While watching TNF, I was like “oh she did it, and they look fantastic” 100% with Erin on waiting room etiquette
@rturney6376
@rturney6376 Жыл бұрын
I know people who know TS. She was raised to be super appreciative and warm and loving 🥰 to EVERYONE. When she gets award 🥇 or to her fans . It was more about who she is as a person than “ really liking him@.
@judymurray191
@judymurray191 Жыл бұрын
You can tell how much she likes him.
@rturney6376
@rturney6376 Жыл бұрын
@@judymurray191 I don’t disagree. I had to smile 😀 at the sign “ We could stay” awesomeness 🤩 . It’s like 👍 the healing ❤️‍🩹 words, she needed her entire life. ❤️❤️❤️❤️. Wish most people talked about that. I am curious 🧐 what she smells like after a hour concert?! 😂😂
@LK-lz6lk
@LK-lz6lk 4 ай бұрын
😆😄 That was far from how she greets fans!
@Durelle820
@Durelle820 Жыл бұрын
Travis was asked to sign a couple of autographs, and he said no. He knew the night was about celebrating Taylor.
@Jacob-nu4nd
@Jacob-nu4nd Жыл бұрын
I doubt that he never turns down an autograph
@Durelle820
@Durelle820 Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-nu4nd He did that night. He was asked to sign a jersey. This was a moment for Taylor and not him that was his message.
@neec05949
@neec05949 Жыл бұрын
I believe Travis Kelce would refuse to give an autograph, especially since the focus should be on Taylor since it’s Taylor’s venue. Just showing some R E S P E C T to Taylor. I love it for BOTH Travis and Taylor (TNT)!!! They are dynamite together!!! Keep me updated!!! Help!!! I’m obsessed with these two!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
@Durelle820
@Durelle820 Жыл бұрын
@@neec05949 travis is a man she’s been dating boys all her life. Period. He is not written by her success. He respects her and is proud of her. When he was asked to sign a sweatshirt, his response was I’m here as a fan. He doesn’t feel emasculated because she makes more money. He does just fine on his own. I’m not a Swiftie. I’ve been following the Chiefs for years and gotten a pretty good idea of who he is. He’s really good for her because he can handle the pressure of the paparazzi.
@janerogers2395
@janerogers2395 Жыл бұрын
Have a nice day
@RCM76-f6z
@RCM76-f6z Жыл бұрын
Travis is the cutest! Everything you two said!!! YES! Go Birds! 💚💚💚
@Jaimeheartbeat
@Jaimeheartbeat 8 ай бұрын
I am never admitting to anyone how much I am following their love story...
@triciahartley9913
@triciahartley9913 Жыл бұрын
Travis needs to come on the show! Please please!!
@ginnypaul2149
@ginnypaul2149 4 ай бұрын
Omgosh.....just realized this is months ago. NOW.....is so much more!!!!! TNT forever!!!! We need a movie and a wedding!!!!!!
@JVander2831
@JVander2831 Жыл бұрын
Love you Ladies! Erin the waiting room experience had me dying😂 I get that all the time, my husband will say why do you attract all the crazy ass people!! Lol Then Charissa omg cracking me up, yep just take a squat in your yard!! You two are the best, love your work, you are the goats in your field!!!❤
@donnanancekivell9430
@donnanancekivell9430 11 ай бұрын
I love you two, you make me laugh so hard…..I’m in total agreement…..he is a MAN and that is exactly what she needs…all the boys are long forgotten……wishing them the best………Donna in Toronto
@morganterranova2183
@morganterranova2183 Жыл бұрын
Taylor will sing a whole song about Calming Down, so she wouldn’t need to change any lyrics for you! She’s got you already!
@Tink545
@Tink545 Жыл бұрын
Love that you wrote this. I was thinking the same😄
@SuzeM_C_GravityRider
@SuzeM_C_GravityRider Жыл бұрын
Love you guys! Love the Taylor & Travis talk, its so nice to see and hear positive happy things. You have to get Travis on your podcast :)
@willalaska
@willalaska Жыл бұрын
Erin, good for you to tell those people to quiet down. At airports some folks are oblivious and it’s disturbing dozens. It’s great you had courage to act. 😊 🎉 😊 They will remember…
@PieceOfMyMind.
@PieceOfMyMind. Жыл бұрын
Goosebumps! I'm just a girl waiting for a boy to love me. ♥😭
@conniecon7910
@conniecon7910 Жыл бұрын
I’ve clearly been under a rock. Whyyyyy have i not known about this podcast!!! Love it!!
@Samiam88
@Samiam88 Жыл бұрын
Swear this is the most underrated pod ever! I love you bitches! 😂 i get so happy when I see that new episode drop!
@bryanshapiro6977
@bryanshapiro6977 11 ай бұрын
I love your passion for their loving relstionship. I feel that it's an indictment of society/humanity that there's so much contempt for them and their obvious happiness. Eyes and body language tell it all. I envision rhem marrying soon, having baby Kelce/Swifties. The problem with ALL the naysayers is that theye have never loved, or been in love, I'm sad foe rhem. Go Taylor and Trav. They've proved that theu don't give a crap what detractors say.
@nobodysunderdog
@nobodysunderdog Жыл бұрын
Thank you working our game today, Charissa. Cowboy Nation appreciates your work.❤
@Momto2Bassets
@Momto2Bassets Жыл бұрын
Erin was the one working the game on the side lines. Charissa dose the game breaks during the game. They never show her during those breaks just hear her commentary on other games.
@nobodysunderdog
@nobodysunderdog Жыл бұрын
@@Momto2Bassets Thanks. Both outstanding at their jobs.
@pamelacrowell2007
@pamelacrowell2007 11 ай бұрын
The Loud Ones knew they were loud and didn't care! I'm with you, I would have said something too!!!! Rude people deserve rude back!
@amycoleman3688
@amycoleman3688 Жыл бұрын
I love y’all SO much!!! My two fav subjects, football and TS… and funny, smart ladies talking about it is a cherry on top of this podcast cake!!! Thanks for all your hard work! I can’t believe you get this out in the midst of a busy season! You are very appreciated!
@musimowingmoreinc9031
@musimowingmoreinc9031 Жыл бұрын
Love this podcast. I will watch ya'll firever. These ladies rock.
@kimberlylunce4548
@kimberlylunce4548 Жыл бұрын
yes yes with travis and taylor
@EmmittMAKNHP
@EmmittMAKNHP Жыл бұрын
"Fuck that test! How dare you." Adorable.
@deborahflores3427
@deborahflores3427 Жыл бұрын
You two are so fun love you both great show
@Jessie-ny9kd
@Jessie-ny9kd Жыл бұрын
👍🏻 great podcast today so funny love how excited you girls get over Travis and Taylor bc I am same way🤪 how can we not love them together?! You all need to go on a triple date😂 seriously 😂🩵😁🏈🫶🏻
@jimgeissmann2918
@jimgeissmann2918 11 ай бұрын
I love your show ! You both are rockstars in my book. As a life time Chicago Bears fan and having to endure another Shitty coaching staff. I find myself being drawn into the Travis and Taylor show. Good for them. I like the New heights Pod cast with Jason and Travis. You ladies keep up the great work.
@nobodysunderdog
@nobodysunderdog Жыл бұрын
Question, who will Taylor show off her engagement ring to first? A. Mom B. Girlfriend C. 80,000 fans on a big screen.
@Lavender_rain7
@Lavender_rain7 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 mom of course
@carolreiner4339
@carolreiner4339 Жыл бұрын
Mom & Dad
@breannegendron4846
@breannegendron4846 11 ай бұрын
Liverpool is where the Beatles come from. I’m headed to Liverpool! Plus the stadium is half as big as other cities.
@anastasiyakhromova9159
@anastasiyakhromova9159 11 ай бұрын
I bet it's very flattering for him to hear everyone saying that "he is A MAN" 😄 you are hilarious))
@reedsawyer5704
@reedsawyer5704 7 ай бұрын
Erin, first of all, love everything you do, BUT, I would love to see you officiate the wedding for Travis and Taylor. You are the best sideline reporter. The two of you have such great chemistry, it's hilarious.
@chayvenrick4321
@chayvenrick4321 Жыл бұрын
I love this podcast. Your look as you glared and said read the room was priceless.
@scottmyers63
@scottmyers63 8 ай бұрын
People who are "haters" of Taylor❤Travis relationship have apparently read both of them wrong. And major kudos to Erin for stepping in and assisting as a "matchmaker" for both of them!!!!!! ❤
@eric-p6j4z
@eric-p6j4z Жыл бұрын
*Taylor Swift billboard woman of the year award*
@chayvenrick4321
@chayvenrick4321 Жыл бұрын
Ladies, I need this in person!
@pamelacrowell2007
@pamelacrowell2007 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣The last time I peed outside (in a field) I got poison ivy so bad, on my girl parts, that I vowed NEVER to do that again!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@wendy5725
@wendy5725 Жыл бұрын
The Swelcy run, hug, kiss was so amazing and adorable. Can someone please explain the significance of hands behind the back? I know it was respectful but what does it mean???
@luiscolon2459
@luiscolon2459 Жыл бұрын
I have to go now and pee in the yard haha omg... Charissa you are hilarious 😂
@hm2ls869
@hm2ls869 Жыл бұрын
Love the little Ricky ref. I go crazy… she moves… 😂😂😂 4:40
@mysticbutterfly78
@mysticbutterfly78 Жыл бұрын
Loved that movie,watched it like 5 times. I need to watch it again.
@erme0213
@erme0213 Жыл бұрын
There's a place where you can be loud, like in a Salon but I agree with Erin, not in a waiting room :)
@renovatio6971
@renovatio6971 9 ай бұрын
More and more and more TNT headlines pls....
@phalanx578onXbox
@phalanx578onXbox Жыл бұрын
Wow, never a boring day on this POD with 2 of the greatest, funnest, realest gals on YT! First off, the BANGS are sexy Charissa and only exemplified the fact you are the most beautiful woman on the planet! Second, it's kills me as a lifelong NFL diehard (Lions for life up here in Toronto) that I find myself gravitating toward you two to unwind with some laughs n good vibes alongside both your insider takes and infectious personalities! Keep up the good work, Love yas! 🍀💙🙏🦉
@phalanx578onXbox
@phalanx578onXbox Жыл бұрын
PS kinda funny to me I find myself listening to 2 cool gals briefly gabbing about nail salons! Like wtf is there a spell cast included with every episode!? Lol
@joannedevine2473
@joannedevine2473 Жыл бұрын
❤Love/Love!❤
@kiba4687
@kiba4687 Жыл бұрын
Definitely OK hide behind something. I did this two weeks ago when I locked me and my dog out of the house for 3 hours! 😂
@davidr3274
@davidr3274 Жыл бұрын
Hi E and c. Love your channel. Was just wondering if either of you caught the “View” episode where Joy Behar called Travis Kielce an idiot and what you guys thought of that. Thank you. Be well.
@catherinegray-ripley3968
@catherinegray-ripley3968 Жыл бұрын
Text don't talk its soo much better....Totally agree, Enjoy the PODCAST chat
@jackdavis8596
@jackdavis8596 Жыл бұрын
Charissa is right, Can't Buy Me Love was a great movie,
@mysticbutterfly78
@mysticbutterfly78 Жыл бұрын
@7:00 Erin is my girl!!! I use to be a people person but not anymore since a lot of people no longer "read the room"!
@Djfu2222-jn8sc
@Djfu2222-jn8sc Жыл бұрын
The Proposal!! Love love!! Sandra and Ryan foreva ❤
@GailFuhlman
@GailFuhlman Жыл бұрын
It used to be quiet in libraries. But now everyone is talking loud and on there cell phone. By the way they have signs every where and people just don't care about other people. So now I just go in a pick up my holds and leave.😃
@mbethwebb9415
@mbethwebb9415 Жыл бұрын
Good on you Erin! Read the room. I have done the same thing
@Ashley_e
@Ashley_e Жыл бұрын
Lol about almost getting arrested! Thank you for a girling with me over Trav and Taylor!! Also I think Matt’s wife said something about removing the strippers on her Podcasts and I back her up 100%
@JanetListon
@JanetListon 10 ай бұрын
Erin, late to be expressing this, but I hope all of the doctors’ visits turned out well!❤
@paulposch3627
@paulposch3627 11 ай бұрын
You two are so cute. Damn Erin You got the act down, Pat
@lana2060
@lana2060 9 ай бұрын
Erin and Charissa you both are awesome. Love the podcast. ( Note: You both look great at home with your natural faces and not all that camera ready ' make-up.'
@SuePettigrew
@SuePettigrew Жыл бұрын
Oh yea, forgot, love you two! Beauty brains and funny as hell!
@heidimarkert1890
@heidimarkert1890 Жыл бұрын
Train them with a round brush!!!Go side to side with the brush while your bangs are on it while you blow dry! 👏🏼
@karendawal9417
@karendawal9417 4 ай бұрын
You 2 girls crack me up. Your friendship is honest, true and unbelievable. Thank you for bringing me joy.
@cindiet6827
@cindiet6827 10 ай бұрын
I have had bangs forever. I spray a little water. I do a dryer on low. Use a brush.
@heidifruchtl354
@heidifruchtl354 11 ай бұрын
I hate bangs for myself. I have very fine hair, and I have 2 cowlicks in the front. I have school photos in which they are very apparent. I now keep my hair the same length.
@rturney6376
@rturney6376 Жыл бұрын
You were talking about security. Security and water at the Brazil TS concer 😢😢😢😢😢
@lporzio6511
@lporzio6511 Жыл бұрын
It was adorable ❤❤❤❤❤
@Sassyglbeauty
@Sassyglbeauty Жыл бұрын
My mom is one of those u would hate in a waiting room. But, it’s because she is someone who has to let everyone know she’s in a room. Lol.
@colleendaloisio4900
@colleendaloisio4900 Жыл бұрын
Love you both♥
@elainaweeks7937
@elainaweeks7937 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Nottingham Hill. I'm just a girl waiting for a boy to love me. ❤️
@RikiRSQ
@RikiRSQ 11 ай бұрын
I love you both. period.
@richardburgoyne3096
@richardburgoyne3096 9 ай бұрын
The comparison to Julia Roberts was so good!
@bradbesialbryant
@bradbesialbryant Жыл бұрын
Hey Erin Andrews, if you ever need some helpful tips on forecasting the weather (since i know your a huge fan of it and you would love to do it if it wasn’t for sports reporting) hit me up. Ive been following the weather and all since i was 10. No i don’t have a career in it YET but i do geek out about it a lot. I can teach you a few things with looking at different forecast models to looking at surface products on a map and all things weather. I’m not even kidding, i know a lot about the weather then some amateurs that are out there… Ok i got that off my back 😂 im done Love the Taylor/travis love story on this podcast, as a chiefs fan living in Kansas City im all in for their relationship to continue, they do make a wonderful and cute couple and glad that they are enjoying it. If you ladies watch Monday Night Football when we play the Philadelphia Eagles it’s a possibility you ladies may see the Kelce family meeting the swift family up in the suites (knowing Taylor will NOT be there) its a huge step in their growing relationship that the two families meet each other.
@pammy3312
@pammy3312 Жыл бұрын
You really need to call Skipp Bayliss for his misogynistic rant accusing Taylor of being the fake seductress corrupting Travis.
@campinglady81
@campinglady81 Жыл бұрын
Love you ladies 💙💙💙
@LazLong
@LazLong Жыл бұрын
I am demanding that all U.S. media cover this wedding (when it happens) like it is William and Kate getting married!!! #TayVis
@brittanyselcer
@brittanyselcer 11 ай бұрын
First, Charissa your bangs look great! I’m dreading becoming the aunt that’s cringy. I’m gonna cry when that day comes. Right now we love listening to Taylor together and she’s 7 and she’s amazing and so smart! 😁😁
@charlenecharchar
@charlenecharchar Жыл бұрын
Lmao...Yes, peeing in my own yard. 😊
@ginnypaul2149
@ginnypaul2149 4 ай бұрын
Pee in the yard! Lol! My daughter just did that! Hysterical!
@chrissyg9576
@chrissyg9576 Жыл бұрын
Only three times?? Lol 😂 think again!!! Thousands!!!!!
@psychobetha
@psychobetha Жыл бұрын
come to Edinburgh night 1 😃 not cause i’ll be there and love y’all or anything…
@marshasweigart8506
@marshasweigart8506 Жыл бұрын
I get it with the waiting room no ice. Was waiting for my friend snd one man was loudly watching a KZbin video snd another was loudly taking a long business call.😒
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