Episode 2: I Watched Netflix African Queens Njinga So You Dont Have to

[@historyofeverythingpodcast]

Hello Everyone once again I ask that you not be unnecessarily harsh in the comments to others and to not be terrible. Be logical and open sources: www.jstor.org/stable/180812 oxfordre.com/africanhistory/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190277734.001.0001/acrefore-9780190277734-e-326;jsessionid=78F6BE04C30DC20D1BF87E67CD7ED047 Heywood, Linda M. Njinga of Angola: Africa’s warrior queen. Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2017. www.amazon.com/Njinga-Angola-Africas-Warrior-Queen/dp/0674971825 www.jstor.org/stable/4501072

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

I appreciate you watching these weird ass netflix shows so I don't have to. I never used Netflix, and I told myself I never would after that horror show that was "Cuties" I ain't giving that company a dime or a nickel. Hope you're doing well:D

[@aliciabell6688]

​@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 same. Cuties was the final straw and their treatment of Henry Cavill made me completely done. The history of Queen Nzinga, is my history too. She sold my ancestor to the Portuguese and that's how we got here, no clue how my (many greats) ancestor skipped Brazil...

[@octaviocuesta1155]

Thank you so much for including your sources! Have you considered using on-screen footnotes during editing?

[@liliesperance81]

@@aliciabell6688 mon Dieu ils n avaient pas de Fusils. Mon Dieu

[@liliesperance81]

@@aliciabell6688 Ces Colomps étaient très terrible. Meme les améridiens n avaient pas pu résister. Ils ont exterminé 62 million d Amérindien d Amérique. Ce n est qu après ils sont allés en afrique. Ces Rois ne S attendaifnt pas à faire la guerre.

[@LordDim1]

This sort of historical revisionism to totally erase the complex history of slavery and present it instead as a purely black and white (pun intended) issue is something which really bothers me. In my country, Grenada, we had a rebellion against British rule in 1795-96, led by a man named Julién Fédon. Fédon was a free French speaking black man, and a slave owner. Fédon is today consistently presented as some kind of liberator who attempted to free the slaves and free Grenada from the evil slaving British. It is always totally ignored that not only was Fédon a slave owner himself; but he flatly refused on at least 3 occasions to follow orders given to him from revolutionary France (who supported his rebellion and to whom he nominally pledged allegiance) to issue a proclamation emancipating slaves. Instead, Fédon and his commanders (who were also slave owners) continued having their slaves work on their plantations throughout the rebellion, and would force slaves on plantations they captured to either join their army, or be executed. Fédon is presented as this fighter for liberation, when the great irony is that the only slaves ever freed during the war were slaves who enlisted in he Loyal Black Rangers, a British regiment, who were freed by the British for their service.

[@SantomPh]

don't let Jada hear that, that'll be her next movie

[@flightographist]

The North African slave raids on Europe began in 1530, probably the impetus for Portuguese and Dutch visits to return the favor in 1600.

[@patrickdix772]

Honestly, it wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn't portrayed as a documentary or a true story. Claiming that it's a documentary, or even a docudrama is just being dishonest at best, and outright lying for the purpose of revisionism. This is at best "based on a true story", which gives enough room to allow the drama they want to push into it and the revisionism (though many people would likely still take it at face value) without being this wrong. A documentary is usually presented as a true account of whatever events it's about (to the limits of what is known when it's made). Docudramas are the same, just with most of it being reenactments of the events, rather than discussing them.

[@BWolf00]

In essence probably all of the African Queens series will present a sanitized slavery perspective...the African American Afrocentric Revisionist Movement abhor the truth, Africans warred, killed, plundered, raided and sold other Africans forcing them into slavery, and they themselves were slave masters.

[@jl-tart7064]

This comment comes off strongly as historical revisionism I’ll need to see the actual history from the black community in the Grenada when people tend to butcher stuff Haiti rebelled against France which was post revolution, you make it appear as if they were “anti slavery” You highlight they were slave owners ( find this petty BS interesting when people tend to omit the practiced people do and try to blur it as if everything was the same) So the French tried to emancipate the slaves in Grenada when they had slaves in Haiti, I call BS Black Americans who fought for the British forces risked being made slaves all over again

[@historyofeverythingpodcast]

I am currently at my daughter’s dance class and forgot this video was going up so soon. will link sources as soon as I get back home

[@lokiragnok981]

No worries, take your time! You are a good one!

[@SimpleSaemple]

Good parent moment

[@Supernova2464]

That’s so cute!

[@oharehatmancaleb7]

This is the cutest reason I’ve heard as an excuse for anything

[@desert_druid_xD]

So precious

[@onaraisedbeach]

One of the biggest problems with many contemporary historians, and I've noticed this is especially true of historians from America, is that they seem to believe that modern social structures and moralities applied to past societies. It's like a weird form of historical amnesia where nothing except the current zeitgeist could possibly have applied to how people thought in the past. I'm a historian and an atheist, and have a lot of contempt for dogmatic thinking. However, I recognise that religion was THE most important factor in most peoples' lives for most of history, so as a historian it would be ridiculously irresponsible of me to write off religion when studying the past. If I took on the mentality of "historians" like those in this documentary, I'd just assume that every leader used religion as a game piece rather than as a sincerely held set of beliefs - and, as a result, my analysis would be bullshit.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Religion won't die out no matter how many people scream into the sky that it's dying. Besides, societies on there last legs have lowered trust in institutions as one of their dying symptoms.

[@mutilatedpopsicles]

Well said

[@IXScasualty]

Wonderfully stated. I saw a post on Reddit saying that if there were a meeting in which historical leaders who were good by modern standards attended, no one would fill the seats.

[@housewilma4904]

and as the past 10 years have shown all that removing relgion does is get people to turn to something else to replace it often POLTICAL EXTREMISM as there idealogy suddenly becomes as key to there identiy as relgion once was@@silverhawkscape2677

[@liisahmanni]

​@@silverhawkscape2677Nobody said anything about religion dying. Are you secretly afraid of something?

[@RoninDave]

Portuguese: We're here to enslave people and profit off the slave trade! Njinga: Hey, that's MY job!

[@laisphinto6372]

people need to realize for the longest time slaves were seen as a ressource and no state had that much of a problem with it

[@kevinsaviro2708]

If im not mistaken but thats not even what the Europeans came for. The Europeans just wanted power, resources and land. Then they saw the slave trading in Africa and were just like yo we can profit from this as well. I dont think they came to Africa because they wanted slaves. But I could be wrong.

[@RoninDave]

@@kevinsaviro2708 it was more about the New World because sub-saharan Africa was too dangerous to European health. Portuguese wanted slaves to sell in the Americas

[@killer0178]

@@kevinsaviro2708 after the fall of Constantinople there was a high demand for everything in Europe because the Ottomans literally controlled the entrance of goods from Asia and Africa into Europe. And those goods include slaves, so the Portuguese saw an opportunity here.

[@richarddraggan8290]

My worst fear is getting drunk watching a series like this and waking up thinking Netflix was truthful in it's story telling. Lucky for me I grew up watching the History Channel descend into Alien madness. so I my be immune to pretend history.

[@mike140298]

No one is immune to it, there's probably people who spiraled together with the history channel. All you can do is be critical of all your sources to reduce the probability you fall for bad history.

[@RogueCheyne]

I miss the old classic WW2 and Civil War channel. My grandpa used to highlight the TV guide to show which shows he wanted to watch and it always had some History channel in it.

[@michaelelmore1678]

Ancient aliens is my fun watch

[@divinesaladbowl5210]

pfff if only you know how mutch youre already believing which they want to believe wake up, the is no england

[@TheSquad4life]

@@divinesaladbowl5210 wtf are you even on about bud haha "the no England" there's no brain in your head

[@andrewstich4614]

Throwing your weapon is something you never do if it can be avoided, because after throwing said weapon you no longer have a weapon. That especially true when you have a smaller force and need to conserve resources.

[@loupgarou-dj3tm]

That's why Romans carried two throwing spears as well as their swords.

[@Wallenquist]

Except in Australia, as they come back.

[@IXScasualty]

Or you can go hunting to see which corpse your weapon was planted into, but that’s not ideal isn’t it? Knife thrower here.

[@saoghail9769]

Netflix: *Five minutes of research* Also Netflix : "Well, I know everything I need to know. Time to make a series."

[@alexiel4406]

More like they did 5 mins of research, didn’t like what they saw, and changed it to what they wanted

[@saoghail9769]

@@alexiel4406 I never said that they remembered what they researched.

[@alexiel4406]

@@saoghail9769 haha good point 🤣🤣👌

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

(research done on TikTok)

[@bulldowozer5858]

*I THINK to know everything...

[@Tusiriakest]

One thing that impresses me, is that raids in Africa in the 1600 were almost impossible for europeans. Look at Portuguese possessions in Brazil in 1750-1800, or Spanish possessions in the Americas in the same time period. Do the same with the French and English. Then see what they possessed in India or Indonesia. Then look at Africa. Why did the European ruled full continents but only small strips of Africa until 1815? Because until you had treatments for disease (specially malaria) and rails, a white man's average life expectancy in Africa was a few weeks! They simply couldn't go in and raid and dominate. And it wasn't raced based at the time. May I remind you that the Portuguese were,at the same time, fighting side by side with Ethiopians christians against the otomans. The role of African Kingdoms in slavery can't be underated, otherwise you are not showing the facts about a crime against humanity, you are forging a narrative that fuels racist hate by blaming whites. This wasn't a white vs black issue in Africa. It was a business between oppressors and oppressed

[@brunoxd151]

I think it’s also important to mention that the Portuguese demand for slaves encouraged the African nations to slave more and more people. If one of the richest nations in the world is willing to buy thousands of slaves from a kingdom, the king will be inclined to slave more people.

[@unnamedenemy9]

I mean. . . it*was* very much race based for the Portuguese, the English, etc. They just had no issue allying with some black Africans against other enemies. Now, in the continental interior it wasn't a black vs white issue because the people doing the capturing were *also* black, even if they were being incentivized even more than normal to fuel the slave trade. A thing that too many people seem not to realize is that Europeans didn't just come in and *invent* the horrible practices of colonialism -- they showed up and strategically made things *worse* in order to profit.

[@Tusiriakest]

@@unnamedenemy9 I rthink race-based slavery was a later "invention". The Portuguese had treaties with african kindoms, and even fought along side them as allies. There is even record of a black knight in Portugal, knighted by the King and several letters between kings such as the king Afonso I of the Congo to King Manuel I of Portugal. Race wasn't seen as a thing back then, before the XVIII century. You would enslaved conquered peoples and "infidels", not "blacks" or "whites". In the XVIII century, sure thing. Race and slavery had become bound. I'm not certain that was a thing about 100 years earlier, in Njingas time.

[@okthatscrazy]

@@unnamedenemy9 it was not. the Portuguese try to enslave Japanese and amerindians. Everyone besides from Christians was fair play for the Portuguese at the time. Amerindian slavery stopped because the Portuguese clergy said so and the Japanese stoped because Japan closed itself and expelled Portugal. The African slave continue because they unfortunately had no such protections and other African tribes and kingdoms were encouraged to sell slaves to the Portuguese

[@unnamedenemy9]

@@Tusiriakest by the mid to late 1600s -- when this takes place -- racism had already been more or less concocted to rationalize the slave trade and colonial endeavors. And saying that they had treaties and therefore it *couldn't* have been racist is just silly on its face. the English colonists in North America also had treaties with the natives and fought alongside them -- it didn't make them and their fondness for ignoring those treaties whenever convenient any less rooted in racism.

[@brianhess1456]

My dyslexia kicked in and I thought for a second you're reviewing the Ninjago movie. I thought it was an odd choice for a historical accuracy review.

[@trltrlfour8063]

Bro, I feel your pain.

[@arthurfisher1857]

Don't get me started on the inaccuracies in Ninjago! Loyd Garmadon KNEW everything and supported his father's evil ambitions. I hate the Green washing of Lego Ninja history

[@nomecompletamentecriativoe3913]

Now i imagine him saying "Actually, at that time in Japan, people were not made of Lego"

[@CptPhilippnes]

Sounds like a good April Fools episode

[@camilofonseca2073]

So many facts and contexts missing. Many details and POVs missing. Some order of events completely messed up. The kingdom of Kongo, the big one in the region is kinda missing, which is disappointing since Ndongo was a fief kingdom who broke up with Kongo because they wanted autonomy in the trades with the Portuguese. Both Kongo and Ndongo had contact and trades with Portugal long before Nzinga's time, with nobles and diplomats traveling to Portugal, and receiving high education from Portuguese missionaries from the church as part of the negotiations. The slavery at that time wasn't black and withe like many people nowadays think. There were rules to how it could be done, and this ended up annoying both Portuguese traders and native nobles with personal economic ambitions, this is why there were several betrayals in Ndongo and Kongo court's, along with several civil wars for centuries. This is also part of the reasons why Nzinga had to agree on increasing the slave trade from weaker villages or rival tribes... The spelling of several Kimbundo names are wrong and atrocious to hear. It's Mbandi, not M-bandê; it's Ngola, not Angola; etc etc. It's clear why Netflix omitted such valuable details and contexts concerning the geopolitical perspectives in that period. Another revisionist fantasy instead of an accurate documentary to lie and brainwash Americans interested in history and unbiased facts. Since I am Angolan, I'll give 1/10 for the amount of missing informations and contexts intentionally omitted by woke and revisionist people. Anyway, thanks for exposing the lies from those people and woke company. The world needs more honest and unbiased historians like you🙏🏽❤

[@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy]

Right, blaming them for pushing a narrative when every other word from your mouth is “woke”. No irony at all there, nope.

[@camilofonseca2073]

@@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy What's woke in what I said ?

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

​​@@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy Since when was pointing out the grey morality of slavery considered woke? Did you even read it?

[@ivanthemadvandal8435]

As someone who has shot a matchlock, I couldn't imagine running around with one. They're realitively heavy at around 10lbs are around 5 feet long, and needs held steady for an extended time because the black powder burn realitively slowly. Not exactly something conducive to quick and nimble handling.

[@als3022]

Rather just use a halberd honestly.

[@Naptosis]

Better hope they line-up, because after that shot goes off, everyone left is gonna be _pissed._ 🤣

[@Oddball_E8]

It actually makes sense that they don't show that she was forcefully sterilized by her brother... because that would take away some of her "womanhood"... and this is aaaaaall about being "the ultimate woman". No matter the cost to the truth.

[@HellbirdIV]

That's probably too charitable a reading.. The people who make these sorts of works don't really consider 'womanhood', in particular motherhood, to be valuable. To them a woman is just a man playing life on a higher difficulty setting, which is why they never care to emphasize any of the women who were known for things other than acting like men, or when they do, they show them.. acting like men. It's why there's this desperation to represent historical women as warriors and fighters and what-have-you, because that's the only lens through which these shallow people read a historical person's "worth" - how "badass" they are. Their actual skills in life, their actual impact in history, is irrelevant - 'Girlboss' is the be-all and end-all for modern media depicting any woman with any degree of authority or importance. They didn't have her forcefully sterilized because they probably didn't read that part of the Wikipedia article, or they thought it would make her look "weak".

[@Deridus]

How did they sterilize them I forgot.

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

@@HellbirdIV they are also the party of my body my choice and only women can decide when it come to reproduction rights, so he is right by saying it take away her ''womanhood'' because it put her reproduction right in the hand of a man and its a big no no for these people

[@jht3fougifh393]

​@@HellbirdIV Haven't you heard? The most opposed women, according to Critical Theorists, are biological males who identify as women. Fun!

[@BrettCaton]

They sterilize children, and when you point it out, they say "there are too many people, this is a good thing!" Thanos would approve. Meanwhile, in reality, humans are devastated by sterilization, which is why it is often a cruelty done to defeated peoples. Not only is it potentially genocidal, but it causes pain that never ends, and stops any hope of having grandkids able to look after you when you are old and crippled. I've known women who hit menopause early. Everyone thinks that they can just have kids in their thirties or forties, it is what I was taught from childhood, but biological reality says otherwise. Twenty years on, and when I talk to those women, they grieve still.

[@pinchman2946]

It's so weird how the actual history just destroys their portrayal. Like she's such a devoted dutiful sister who at the first possible chance absolutely murders the shit out of her nephew to secure personal power. It'd be like if you made a show about how amazing and noble a person Vlad the impaler was, and just ended an episode with him raising a field of impaled people.

[@MrDj232]

Woman gaslights brother to steal his throne. Netflix: "Yaas kween slayyy!"

[@gamebawesome]

I wonder how’d you react to the Woman King. With what I researched, it shows the same problem of making the Kingdom of Dahomey morally against slavery, when that wasn’t the case

[@plasticbazooka]

It's not just that the Dahomey were pro-slavery, they were feared raiders and slavers themselves. Basically the Dahomey were the Masai of southern Africa.

[@kevinsaviro2708]

@@plasticbazooka your comment confuses the hell out of me. How are they the Maasai of Southern Africa when the Dahomey tribe lived in whats now Benin in West Africa and the Maasai live in Tanzania/Kenya in East Africa? Also the Maasai never ever had anything to do with slavery or any kind of slave trading… Thats like saying because they invaded Ukraine, Russians are the Danish of Southern Europe. None of them are connected.

[@plasticbazooka]

@@kevinsaviro2708 The Masai had nothing to do with slave raiding? Bullshit. Though you're right, Dahomey aren't really all that south, I'm just used to using the Northern Africa coast as a point of reference.

[@Dracon7601]

​@@plasticbazookaThe Dahomey weren't nomadic, I think you are confusing Masai with another culture cause there's evidence they rejected slavery and were one of the few to refuse it consistently.

[@IXScasualty]

There’s some good videos out there, so have fun. A lot of them are incredibly anti-woke, so I do hope he does a reaction for just pure historical inaccuracy.

[@adriftinglink]

I very much appreciate this series. Having someone go over academically what all the show is getting wrong for the sake of drama without being malicious towards it is nice. Not enough people go in with strictly accuracy based assessments; rather, in my experience, most just bash these shows for pandering instead of for just being incorrect.

[@als3022]

I can despise them for being shit and having a horrible agenda.

[@jamesmerkel1932]

While that's true, you also have to look at why they had these inaccuracies. You don't have to bash people to call out the fact that pandering was a major factor in their reimagination of history

[@adriftinglink]

@@jamesmerkel1932 so true.

[@lionmom7629]

​​@@jamesmerkel1932 Okay. I will try this out. Let's say that it WAS pandering. Yep. A black women is pandering to what will likely be a majority black audience about a forgotten and nearly erased history. So what are you mad about? So what if she does???? How is that "pandering" hurting you in any way? How is that taking anything away from you? I've already read materials regarding this docudrama series. Nobody's hiding the things that were left out or are only theories or speculation. She's not trying to hide that. Still, the information given is not propaganda. Its not full of deliberate disinformation for some nefarious and dangerous cause. The timeline is actually pretty much on point. The subject of Njinga is not fictional, nor is the overall story of her as told, here. I've seen far more inaccurate depictions of George Washington, of Christopher Columbus. So what if its "pandering" to the audience its made for? In that regard, Fox News is guilty of pandering 24 hours a day, 7 days a week since it was created. Same for Newsmax and OAN. They are pure pandering to the audience they want. And this docudrama series, to be frank about it, is far closer to the truth than any of the three "news" sources I just named. I've seen them. I know this is the case.

[@alanknight8439]

So she was a cannibal; poisoned her brother; murdered her nephew; and was a slave trader. A real African role model.

[@aliciabell6688]

He killed her chosen beloved and her child, then castrated her ( this is before tubal ligation, use your imagination) so yeah her brother earned his death, his son...she could have adopted him but maybe he didn't want her as his ruler...it was a rough time...he didn't chose wisely...

[@josephcouture696]

Welcome to history my dude every "hero" tends to have a dark side

[@laisphinto6372]

pretty mild no child sacrifes like the punics no prescriptions like sulla or genocides.

[@alanknight8439]

@@laisphinto6372 The point is not that this woman was evil, and that many evil people have done evil things in history. The point is that the Netflix documentary tries to pretend this woman was not evil.

[@jamesbarton1969]

For that time and place yes she was.

[@Ghost.girI.]

Since we are much more familiar with Roman culture here in the West, it was a good criticism and also funny to constantly point out the mismatch of the Roman legion uniforms or their constant use of leather. I'm not sure how knowledgeable you are about African culture but it would be interesting to also talk about their wardrobe choices here as well and analyze how realistic (or not) is it.

[@iosefstalinium5068]

Ptolemaic Egypt (Egypt under the dynasty cleopatra was from, an Alexander the Great successor state) was a bit different from most other Hellenic states of the era. It was a cultural melting pot with Kemetic influences and even some distant Iranian influence due to the Ptolemaic dynasty’s origin. “The Ptolemaic rulers wore linen robes, and favoured a kind of sheer fabric in particular, along with diadems, white fillets or headbands and wreaths.”

[@dane_with_swag]

I guess Njinga came to them in a dream, telling them to tell the world her story: that she was always against slavery... and that historians are naughty liars, just trust your feelings

[@thenamesianna]

I remember my grandma telling me : "I don't care what historians say, Njinga was against slavery".

[@FTZPLTC]

It is legit funny that they're trying to present Njinga as ideologically opposed to slavery one minute, and having her carried around by slaves and using people as furniture the next. It has the unintended effect of making her seem like a massive hypocrite rather than just a pragmatist and a product of her time and upbringing. It's not like it would actually be a condemnation of her for her to *not* be against slavery, at a time when pretty much no one else was against slavery either. But they have a narrative they want to push, obv.

[@dominicadrean2160]

I would like a show about Peter the Great's black son or TV show about the black samurai in medieval Japan

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

There is a show about the black samurai In japan.

[@Theproclaimed]

But then it wouldn’t be a woman and god forbid having a movie or tv show about a strong male character these days

[@Ta2dwitetrash]

Then it's time to go down under.

[@Lingiskhan]

​@@Ta2dwitetrashto Australia? 🤔

[@strombreakr]

There's actually an anime that's loosely based on the famous black samurai (his name escapes me)

[@RaspK]

5:15 They don't mention that because it: a) contradicts the narrative about where the majority of slaves came from; b) and it also undermines the whole notion of unity which is central to the Europe-versus-Africa view.

[@SantomPh]

the majority of slaves in the US and Caribbean were from West Africa. The majority of slaves from the Congo and lower coast went to Brazil. The show is making it out like all slaves went to the same place. As for unity, every kingdom collapses from within, that's why Europe looks like little children decided to draw maps.

[@mutilatedpopsicles]

​@SantomPh Not to mention the fact that when it comes to the whole slavery conversation, people deny the fact that the African kingdoms practiced slavery amongst themselves before Europeans showed up.

[@sim.frischh9781]

Actually you CAN run and gun with a matchlock rifle, just... not for long... but once you shot your load you can just run away... and hope the other side doesn´t have horses... or better runners.

[@ferdinandvillafuerte468]

Love your passion, man. I don't think it's a dumb thing to get put off by the miss use of guns, especially within a historical context. If they were actually interested in being more historically accurate, it wouldn't have been something they missed.

[@OverlordDenooh]

I love learning about history even more so the kind people shy away from or skim over but I really hate when people rewrite history for shows and movies while claiming their story is true.

[@okairo]

What the Portuguese was doing was mainly for a show of force. With it's lack of manpower to keep there, they had to go with "shock and awe" to get the Soba (not sure how you spell it) to side with them. Basically they just went "Do some raids, make it look like we can move in a big force, scare the shit out of the locals, they side with us, profit."

[@zachm25]

Big brain money making ideas

[@Naptosis]

The Soba must have had a 'racket' that needed 'protecting'...

[@hccdgvvfccdgn993]

I don't think you have to suffer watching this, no one is going to either way

[@historyofeverythingpodcast]

i think it’s a good thing to watch because it does bring attention to a story that most haven’t heard of

[@zachm25]

@@historyofeverythingpodcast whilst pushing the agenda of white man bad, African people bad, sorry I know it’s blunt but it’s how I see it through these documentaries. Which makes themselves look racist and one sided in historical events. It works both ways though

[@IXScasualty]

@@historyofeverythingpodcastIt’s like ahistorical movies, where hardly anything is accurate, but hopefully someone will take interest in the topic and go to do legitimate research afterward.

[@zachm25]

I love what you do in this channel and these videos, actually educating people on these issues of Netflix and their negligence to provide unbiased, one sided products. Which end up making historical events seem twisted and the opposite of what they actually were. I love history and I like knowing the truth, even if it’s bad… in this day and age there always has to be a good and bad, never just an overall bad thing. Which I understand, but it makes people delusional and hate things for the wrong reasons. I’m glad this year has shown the bad practices companies shrouding history to suit their own needs and wants. Like cleopatra and this as well. Apologies if I sound negative in any way, I just hate seeing people be deluded into false narratives and believing false facts

[@mses911]

I didn't know that the sobas operated like that with slaves, but it makes sense. My mother was born in central Angola, before independence. My grandparents went there to manage a shop and some plantations in the middle of nowhere as they were really poor back in Portugal. There were many native small villages around them and each had a soba. If they needed help with something, or if they went to collect coffee or something like that they would go to the sobas, tell how many jobs they had and how much they would pay, and then the sobas would join the people who wanted and then they would go to work. My mother says some of those villages were really beautifull and she would always get some sandalls that a certain soba made that were really good.

[@MohamedGX]

First thank you. Second, why can't we appreciate history for what it is.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ArawnNox]

I always find it funny how when they (movies/tv shows/etc) include real events (her sitting on a slave, for example) its always so much better than the made up parts.

[@IXScasualty]

I admire the will to keep that, but I’m sure they only kept it for the slay queen girl boss moment - it would have been excluded otherwise.

[@Averybritishbear]

Man i love this guys upload schedule because this just got uploaded and where I am right now the time is 23 48

[@son0fgrim]

whenever I hear someone say "I think" i toss out what they say.

[@kevinmajorca]

So everything in the series? 😂

[@NP3GA]

They way you speak of her reminds me of Oda Nobunaka and Cao Cao, it makes me sad that we never saw something like that

[@AiLiang-hh2zg]

Do they ever mention or touch upon the whole infanticide ritual with the Imbagala she partook in?

[@snelhestarna]

I know Stak mentioned something about the historical event, either the trailer episode, or the last. But when did that happen?

[@lindafarnes486]

Just a thought. I think there is a current tendency to judge the activiiies of historical figures in light of current ideologies and politics; not in the light of politics, the society and culture of the period. Nzinga or Njinga seems to be getting portrayed as an anti colonialist, rather than someone trying to take control of her country. She attempted to form an alliance with the Portuguese, but then plays against them. She then formed an alliance with the Dutch at some point. I would suggest she had possibly a short term goal, may have had some long term goals. But whatever her motives and long term goals were, they were probably not as simplistic as they are being portrayed. She was a remarkable woman, but it would be good if documentaries would not make assumptions about motives

[@laisphinto6372]

its as accurate as roman generals in the late republic fighting only because of roman honor and not personal benefit

[@YourFunkiness]

14:45 Wait a moment, does this show actually fail the Bechdel test?

[@williamblack6912]

My broken toes don' t hurt as much as this series.

[@mejestin]

No, Thank YOU. Im enjoying the show somehow through your review. You do great on sickened subject 🎉

[@2475wag]

Shows like this are the reason history is so misunderstood and confusing for so many people.

[@markgoggin2014]

2:53 I lean you could use the matchlock as a club 🤷‍♂️

[@JLo83]

They did it a lot in movies like Last of the Mohicans, Rob Roy and Brotherhood of the Wolf. But I'm not sure it'd be worth the extra weight considering you could just carry a lighter wooden club.

[@Touchpadse]

This entire series can be summarized with 6 words: "white man bad, black woman good". I know that sounds racist but this series is really that. I know the "white man" did a lot of bad things during this time, but not everything they did was bad. At the same time, not everything "black woman" did was good. Showing it like this is really bad in so many ways

[@laisphinto6372]

this is why i want african history before the colonial times especially no white people at all because every time there is a random white dude there they laserfocus on the white people and never acknowledge that africa iis a very diverse place and not one "black community" that are some peaceloving hippies who never fought each other

[@Lorisa25]

I really enjoy your break downs of each episode.

[@nero9846]

Could you make a video about the "average" price of slaves over the different centuries? @stakuiy (sorry my English isn't that well but greetings from Germany ig😅)

[@Ushoron]

360 matchlock no scope.

[@heart04winds19]

I loved the part where Njinga pulled out a log from a tower and made it fall down, then screamed out her own name for some reason

[@IXScasualty]

Even with context, the last part felt highly unnecessary

[@blankistblankophobe9078]

Remember when we used to rip apart documentaries for not citing exact sources or getting miniscule details slightly wrong?

[@DavidM_10]

Now it's deliberate, politically driven misinformation.

[@jeffmcdonald4225]

I'm sorry you had to watch that, bro.

[@CharDhue]

Digital era not only on computing (0 and 1) but also for character and story, it's either good or evil there's no in between so we can't have complex character and story

[@courier6516]

I love how were learning more from someone telling us how bad the original thing was. Thanks stakuyi! Love your content!!

[@Rashed1255]

Sucks how they change past events to fit their message & claim it to be a documentary.

[@stacybender4414]

OMG, I just realized that I sound like him when critiquing fight scenes in books.😂

[@officerbutton9532]

I want a breakdown this thorough of Reign, The Tudors, and Versailles 🤞

[@mattg6893]

Njinga walked so that Cleopatra could run.

[@cuttlefish6132]

Face first into a wall.

[@chuckysmaria6466]

Wait! timeline wise, cleopatra came first before njinga (archer: phrasing!).

[@michaellavings3579]

"they sure don't make movies like Zulu anymore"

[@Totally_Baked]

I miss non Netflix content, but keep doing what you're enjoying.

[@historyofeverythingpodcast]

non netflix content is going to be mixed in too! don’t worry

[@Totally_Baked]

@@historyofeverythingpodcast Thanks for getting back to me! It's awesome to see a channel that actively engages with its community. I'm really looking forward to the mix of content you'll be sharing. Keep up the great work!🙂

[@crazyinsane500]

Here's to a possible Horrible Histories video in the future! Which I expect to be abridged because unlike with Netflix, they actually put *effort* into that in ensuring it was both funny *and* historically accurate.

[@HappyGilmore_Lover]

Mr. Stakuyi, can you do something on the complete timeline of the Siamese Empire

[@everythingwithashton5876]

I think it’s a waste of source material if you take an incredibly complex character and turn them into the good guy or the bad guy. Just make them the protagonist and let history entertain the future

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

Hey I love your videos, they're very informative and funny. But I had a few questions: how do you learn so much, so fast? Have you read that many books? Where did you learn about Njinga, specifically? Actually, I'd just like to know your learning method, period :D!

[@joelleblanc8670]

This is a really fun way to learn history ❤

[@cardengixoth6878]

I'm watching this to destress after watching a speedrunner explain traveling into parallel universes in Mario 64 to get a single star in .5 A presses

[@dangelangello8567]

This was a great podcast!

[@darklight5271]

Will smith's husband trying to go from regular weekday threat to avenger level threat.

[@jestergodfield690]

People are going to walk away from this show thinking that the portuguese invented the very idea of slavery.

[@andrewphillips8341]

I am very glad you stated her name clearly. I read it as something else.

[@babydahl9424]

Take a drink everytime he says 'simultaneously.' lol love this video though. Still enjoying learning.

[@youtoob4life]

I honestly don't understand how any historian, or history enthusiast, who is particularly interested in this time period and area could so blatantly misrepresent the truth. How can they live with themselves knowing they are knowingly and willingly spreading lies and misconceptions. Absolutely shameful.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Mr Krabs: Money 🤑

[@anthonyjames2021]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they get paid and also it encourages people who believe "alternate" versions of history to buy their books. In historical books writing all eh main themes have been done ad infiniutm so to get a top selling book these days you have to find a new angle or even easier find a controversial contrary angle to promote.

[@Will_Parker]

I hate just how ignorant so many people are now about slavery throughout history. No country at any point in history stood against slavery until Britain in the late 1700s. The African natives were the starting point of the transatlantic slave trade, they fought harder than anyone to keep the trade going. It's just historically ignorant at best but more likely historical revisionism for modern political power. Either way it's absolutely disgusting and downright evil.

[@PenTheMighty]

Especially considering it's always written with such charged emotion that it drives people to anger in the present. History shouldn't be driving people to madness and ignorance! It should be enlightening and give people context and understanding. It's a travesty that docs and media like this only serves to agitate and anger people about old crimes by omitting and changing details to get that desired result. That's what's really aggravating...I remember watching Roots in school and witnessing black kids wanting to beat up white children or at least treat them poorly the next day. And Roots was terrible as far as history and context is concerned but, it served its purpose...Making the black kids angry at whites for no reason. And now, there is an even stronger push for "reparations" which is just a fancy word for stealing money from others under the guise of political justice...Even though there isn't a black person in the US that has experienced slavery (except for maybe some immigrants, and most of them probably aren't black). When asked about all the insane stuff, all blacks can do is refer to media they've seen and how angry it made them... For so many of us, slavery is our defining moment in history, when in reality it's hardly a footnote in the overall history of humankind.

[@adorabell4253]

Nope. First recorded banning of slavery was in Qin China. Many, many countries over history banned slavery including most European countries centuries before. They just reneged on that.

[@CMitchell808]

@@adorabell4253 Could you please provide me a source for that Qin abolition statement? I always thought the Qin used slave labor for large-scale projects.

[@Jamesgates355]

@@CMitchell808 he can't cause it didn't happen, the Qin Dynasty used slaves for their large scale projects, he might be referencing the end of the Qin Dynasty, but China had not outlawed Slavery at all, only putting limits and allowing its citizens to enslave non-chinese/criminals, China still practices slavery to this day with its sweatshops and large scale projects, they might have a law on the books saying it outlawed slavery, but the CCP can never be trusted with its own laws, especially with how much they have ignored the laws of its own country and international law, China runs off literal slave labor

[@Zolowicz1932]

@@adorabell4253 Qin China isn’t a western nation.

[@ianmacdiarmid1249]

What i find ridiculous is the mentions of "our" people being enslaved. The idea that because they were African so they were the same is a very 19th and 20th century way of thinking

[@bhole456]

I’ve noticed this trend is a lot of history here in america that various African countries (not sure if this is correct) are just as guilty for the slave trade as the European countries.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Because Slavery was seen as Normal Even if Undesirable. That's History. From the Scot Saint who got enslaved to the Abolitionist. Slavery had it's Detractors but the economic pull it had was enough to keep it going. And it was the Economics of slavery when it no longer made sense that helped ending it.

[@maryatracer154]

Njinga as a moral and dutiful leader fighting for her people was not the angle I predicted Netflix was going to go with her story after I read her Wikipedia page. I thought they were going to go with the narrative of Njinga as a wounded woman taking brutal revenge, given what her brother did to her at the beginning and how the Portuguese treated her country.

[@vividdem]

You should do the woman King movie too

[@BrettCaton]

Netflix White Man: Haha, I shall shoot this native in the back - despite how badly it harms me!

[@arthurturp9008]

I think portrayals like this are why alot of representation of strong women annoys me so much, it can never truly show them being vulnerable or taking punches such as not mentioning fully her exile or forced sterilisation. I didn't realise this until watching arcane where Vi is an incredibly strong women but you see her get knocked down and still persist which makes her truly strong and alot of series like this are afraid to show that

[@BranDenhauer]

Well, Arcane is a masterpiece created by highly intelligent people, while these revisionist history docu-dramas were simply...not.

[@TheAnimaAnimal]

My theory about this is essentially that it comes from the wrong perspective where men's portrayal of 'always strong never showing vulnerability' has kind of gotten a pass for a very long time. I'm thinking Dark Age of comics during the 90s, James Bond and so on. And now women are going through such a period but we are calling it stupid now while ignoring the fact that a lot of men's characters have gotten away with it for a very long time. Also, it's also a problem with portrayal of women as weak since when it has happened in the past on a lot of occasions it's been at the woman's expense as a character as opposed to the guy showing vulnerability while also being portrayed as strong, a hero etc. It's something that for some reason people can't reconcile. You also need to remember, unlike you guys, our legacy, that of women, is spread thin and few and far between. We don't have as many (if at all) war heroes, warriors, feats of strength and strategy and genius like you do that you can take pride and aspire towards. It's something we've always been excluded from. So I think there's some sort of compulsion to gild what little we have.

[@arthurturp9008]

@@TheAnimaAnimal I'm a chick... but I do get where ur coming from still annoying, also I'm a historian and while there's way less powerful women in history there's certainly not a shortage its just unfortunate that we have to look harder

[@TheAnimaAnimal]

@arthurturp9008 Even if there isn't technically a shortage it is not as if these stories are told. King Arthur vs Joan Arc and so on. It's long been established and I think well known that men's stories are preferred and referred to over women's. Also written less grandiose, epic and/or heroic (at least in my experience).

[@IXScasualty]

You will notice that most of the notable powerful women in history used their sexuality and traditional femininity to gain power. Wu Zetian is the only female emperor in Chinese history and her being a concubine meant she could get close to the emperor. When both of the emperors died, the people LITERALLY ASKED HER to be emperor. Why must these woke people always portray this is as useless?

[@pedroarjona6996]

They are not present documentary, this series is propaganda; they are not triying to present an accurate portrait of an important, even great, female African leader, they are triying to present inspirational, almost aspirational portraits for modern people.

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

I would love to see the Kandake Amaniranus

[@electricyarn]

Listening to a summary of this + bits of what actually happened makes me feel like this should have been historical fiction, not a documentary with an agenda.

[@domenicoallegri3935]

An interesting show to tdo this kind of analysis/reaction with is "Rise of the Empires: Ottman" (of course made by Netflix) It is exactly like this: a bit of history, some made up stuff, a lot of melodramatic stuff with no source. The only difference is all the Turkish propaganda sprinkled in

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

All I have to see is Jada and i know its gonna be bad. Basically this is a bold faced lie.

[@Renfair333]

I'm still in shock that they completely erased her forced sterilisation. It's the part of her story that left me in awe of her grit when I first read it. What a trial for any woman to go through, any leader to go through, and emerge victorious from-- and they just threw it out? WHY?! Please let it not be for political reasons.

[@Athena_Light]

I'm ngl this is teaching me actual history but Netflix leaving out a KEY fact in this series completely ingenious

[@Meirstein]

Njinga: 3.6 inaccuracies. Not great, not terrible Cleopatra: It's not 3.6 inaccuracies, it's 15000

[@Spectre578]

I think stakui may now have the record for greatest like to dislike ratio, at 38,000 to 5, and that's after a year....

[@MatthewCapilla]

I watched this series and I was waiting his take on this

[@j4nk3n]

Lack of historical accuracy, what a shocker.....

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Looking forward to episode 3

[@rexrules8895]

my KZbin is glitched so it says that this is the title: Most OP Monarchies in Hearts of Iron 4Episode 2: I Watched Netflix African Queens Njinga So You Dont Have to

[@Cristian_Adejandro98]

the only documentary on Netflix i have enjoyed and is historically accurate is Arnold a doc on the life and various jobs that Arnold Schwarzenegger had such as bodybuilder, movie star and governor.

[@adorabell4253]

This need to whitewash powerful rulers is painful to watch. Nzinga was really cool and pretty amazing and showing that, how she fought for power, how she used her brains and her brawn to achieve it, her ability to play people off one another would be great but it doesn’t create a myth. It doesn’t create that King Arthur figure and that’s what Jada PS is trying to do.

[@UndeadKIRA]

About the beginning, maybe it was more to do with the studio's limitation on actors and gear

[@dominicadrean2160]

Here is a fun fact you know her descendants are actually in America is there white dwarves but the main guy who got his family ancestry is actually tall and normal and I'm not even joking he actually has his own KZbin channel😂😅

[@josmith9662]

What a shame that I could be casually learning new things but I decline to watch due to lack of trust. I will rephrase that, because I am tired of politically motivated lies in light entertainment.

[@BrettCaton]

You'd be much more likely to start combat with a thrown spear than an Axe. It's more a last resort action than a first. They are short ranged, and then you don't have that Axe. Arrows are even better, of course. You can poison them! Not everyone used bows - the quality of wood in west Africa was poor according to my reading. Poison could compensate and was used widely by some groups. I can't find much on this one though.

[@laisphinto6372]

the west didnt use bows as much as people think besides the english who spammed that shit . javelins were pretty common as well ,also bows take much training

[@thehoodyninjazombiexp1792]

Love these videos

[@Parco_Molo]

Njinga is really sus for dyslexics like me. Had to double check that name ngl 😂

[@censuur12]

I do wonder what they use to write these scenes, given how they detached they are from actual History, are they just sitting in a writer's room trying to invent an appealing character? Is there some novel or fictional character they are basing her on?

[@vergulyanets]

Have you watched that work of complete fiction, “The Woman King”? Exactly same thing as here.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Sadly he did

[@NoName-fg1eu]

I feel like this is history: The series

[@augmenautus]

Can you do an episode on Hulu's the Great about Catherine the great. It's a great comedy, but I'm curious how much they changed.

[@adorabell4253]

A ton. Still a fun show. They also made Peter a lot more attractive than he was in real life.

[@elizabruklena7526]

Oh my... As a person who knows Russian history fairly well I was cringing very hard. It's funny, it's light, if you do your best to forget historical facts.