Episode 2 "Two of the Most Dangerous Words in Aviation."

Without "Beginner's Mind," we often miss what is really going on in this moment.
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[@SKYGUY1]

I'm a 40 year pilot, a 22 year Commercial Pilot, Flight Instructor, Instrument Instructor, AGI, w/ about 3,400 hrs. I just retired in April. One of my favorite things was to sip coffee and ask the other Instructors (some w/ a few hundred hours, some w/ 13K and 16K hours) questions about airplane things. I have also paid attention to my students and learned things from them. Here's fr'instance... A friend was flying near Charlotte NC when a Goose entered his C-172 through the windshield. He was splattered w/ blood, and injured. He declared an emergency as he turned to the airport, KCLT cleared him for any runway, but after a few moments he realized that even full power was not maintaining altitude due to the tremendous drag of the open windshield. He told the controller he was going to put it down in a field a mile or two short of the runway. He had the presence of mind to plan for an off airport landing, so he unlatched his door. That allowed the pressurized air in the cockpit to depart the airplane, and he discovered he could then maintain altitude and he made it to the runway and landed safely. That was probably the only way to have learned that. It has been said that "Minds are like parachutes... They only serve you well if they are 'OPEN'." Keep an open mind about EVERYTHING because we already have a "Pilot shortage". Thanx for the video.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Love the quote, "Minds are like parachutes... They only serve you well if they are 'OPEN'." @SKYGUY1

[@RustyClam]

Unlatching the door in such an event is really something to keep in mind. I had numerous close calls with birds 🦅 in my flying days, and I had seen a couple of GA planes with broken windshields.

[@backcountyrpilot]

I would think that opening the door (so early before impact) would create unnecessary additional drag, not just because it increases frontal area, but because the air flowing through the cockpit essentially gets ‘rubbed on both sides’) as a opposed to air rolling away in front of the pressurized cabin. My thinking is that it’s similar in concept to a spinning prop creating more drag than one at rest. 18-Wheelers often have full-length spoilers hanging under each side. I assume these are to prevent air from “scraping” against the surface area of the bottom of the trailer. Is it possible that his peto static system was lying to him because of the disturbed airflow and that he was not losing altitude? I recently tricked myself into thinking I owned a 195 KTAS RV8 until I realized the Alternate-Air plug was sitting in a side pocket. Plugging it back in cost me 10 KTS 😳

[@salvatorelivreri]

I am not following the story. C-172’s are not pressurized planes. Did you intend to mean that the air being rammed into the open windshield area could now be vented out the door somewhat instead of it being forced into a “blind pouch” (the cockpit)?

[@rlsmith6904]

Yes. Opening the door on a cub is similar flying in an open cockpit. The air coming through the windshield is allowed to shunt out the open door instead of being stopped, reducing drag.

[@pierrelarocque3214]

As a student pilot I had just landed the school's 172 as the mayor of our town arrived and asked me if I wanted to do a few circuits with him to check the newly installed light system on the runway. He was a co owner of the school and a 12,000 hrs pilot . So, the plane being warm and just shut down I said let's hop in and go. He looked at me and said let us do a preflight inspection first. I will never forget that evening. Never skip on safety.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Your mayor provided an excellent example. You are fortunate to have experienced his caution, @pierrelarocque3214.

[@waynemeredith4287]

As an aircraft mechanic in the Air Force I learned early on that it is better and easier to ask a stupid question than to answer for a stupid mistake.

[@extraordinarypilots]

There's a lot of wisdom in that, @waynemeredith4287!

[@ericmeekey7886]

"Up Yours!"? That's definitely not something to tell Tower, 😂. I'm reminded of the 5 Hazardous Attitudes (and Antidotes) in the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge: Antiauthority "Don't tell me..." Follow the rules; they're usually right. Impulsivity "Do something quickly!" Not so fast-Think first! Invulnerability "It won't happen to me...." It could happen to me! Macho "I can do it." Taking chances is foolish. Resignation "What's the use?" I'm not helpless, I can make a difference.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure those two words would get you a lot of attention -- but not the kind you'd like! ;)

[@ericmeekey7886]

@extraordinarypilots Hey, it works for the aliens in Independence Day though, Lol. Have a fantastic weekend sir, thanks so much for all you do.

[@Chance-ry1hq]

This sounds and looks like an educational movie they would have shown us in elementary school in the 60s.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yeah, we probably all missed a few key messages in elementary school, @Chance-ry1hq.

[@iamtobyrice]

Michael, you're absolutely right. This series of yours is going to be mandatory study material for my clients... (especially CFI applicants!)

[@extraordinarypilots]

Lovely. The CFI community would certainly benefit from these messages, @iamtobyrice!

[@alvinuselton912]

Great wisdom,great truth. I wish I could learn to fly. I have always from my youth wanted to fly. Iam almost 60 now and I still have a tremendous desire to learn to fly. Thank you 🙏 sir for this wonderful video.

[@calsbarn5996]

Go for it dude. I learned at your age, still flying at 74, and hope to continue for many years.

[@extraordinarypilots]

I've had learners at your age, @alvinuselton912, and I assure you, it's possible to learn. You just have to have patience with yourself and realize that we learn differently as we age. Give it a try...

[@martinhiner2059]

Sir, you have a new subscriber. I flew in the 80's with club. But you speak volumes, procedure and reality are. Two different things.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Welcome to the tribe, @martinhiner2059! Hope you derive great benefit to hanging out here.

[@ralphgemignani4117]

“Watch this”….

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yup. Normally followed by "Hold ma beer..." @ralphgemignani4117!

[@felixniederhauser7799]

The more mature I get, I know, that I know nothing. Hence with my 73+, I am still a student for life. Ha, ha, ha

[@extraordinarypilots]

I'd guess many of us wish we were more "mature" when we were younger, @felixniederhauser7799. But what a gift of age to still be a student -- and always learning!

[@klausgebert5666]

Excellent video. I think it applies to all aspects in life. Of course a grow up person has to be a grown up, mature person. Please keep the videos comings. Thanks.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Thanks, @klausgebert5666. Much of what you'll see on the channel, by design, applies to all aspects of life. Subscribe to stay informed!

[@SurveillanceOneInc]

Very refreshing, thank you Michael!

[@extraordinarypilots]

Glad to contribute, @SurveillanceOneInc!

[@stevenvicino8687]

How I wish you had been my sensai when I was a teenager. My father was a good pilot but a terrible teacher. Loved the video.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Glad you are liking the videos, @stevenvicino8687. Sometimes...a "terrible" teacher has much to teach us.

[@martind181968]

I love what you have said here and hope many new pilots stumble upon your clip here. Attitude and understanding limitations of ones self and aircraft in flying are so important and now with a rush of new pilots being pushed through for the heavies, I am afraid is a bad equation. I love the Cub, it is my favorite aircraft in flying, it is patient and not in a hurry ---- a great teacher !! Never stop learning -- yep !!! Would love to have a cup of coffee with you some day.

[@extraordinarypilots]

I agree that we'll probably see some degradation in our stellar accident rates in the coming years. Love your description of the Cub: "Patient." Subscribe and stay connected!

[@tomcoryell]

Sweet Plane!

[@extraordinarypilots]

She IS sweet, for an 77-year-old, @@tomcoryell!

[@martind181968]

Excellent video/discussion. In watching the video of you as you're flying I noticed several times how low that wire fuel indicator was, I kinda thought you were setting us up to see if any of us noticed, so on that point, " I did " 😅 Seriously though, I had a situation when I was 16, and flying the J-3. I had taken the J-3 up for a short few hops around the field and after the last landing I taxied to fuel it up for the next flights. The fuel wire indicator was showing about a half tank however when I took the cap off I noticed the wire had been bent and someone just roughly tried straightening it however there was a slight kink that kept it from going down past halfway of the wire length ( even with engine vibration ). Out of curiosity I put the cap on and got the wire past the kink area and found the wire was just sitting almost at the very bottom, very low fuel. That sure got my attention on how important it was to never take for granted any part of your preflight. Thus why I always notice the wire fuel indicator on the J-3.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Thanks for watching the "fun meter" in my Cub@martind181968 . Yeah, I was stopping for fuel when I shot that video. You bring up an interesting point, though: The Cub's fuel gauge might be "stupid simple" but that doesn't make it "foolproof"!

[@kevink868]

Every time I pull out my 34 year old copy of the FAA Flight Training Handbook and read my hand written notes and questions from long ago I am reminded of this vital principal. And I love to share it with newer pilots!

[@extraordinarypilots]

Which "vital principal," @kevink868?

[@flyboywbl]

In the multi crew world it’s “I fly by the book” 😂

[@extraordinarypilots]

Could you please explain what you mean by that, @flyboywbl?

[@flyboywbl]

@@extraordinarypilots in my experience, when meeting a new pilot I’m going to fly with, if they say during their briefing “I fly by the book”, you are about to see some shit that is most definitely not in the company’s Standard Operating Procedures. Perfect example of this, I was flying with a new captain who told me he flys by the book. Our very first leg it’s an empty repo flight (no passengers or flight attendants onboard). He tells me we are going to lift off and he wants me to suck the gear up the second the wheels leave the ground, keep it in ground effect, accelerate to 250 knots and then pull up and do a wing over. I looked at him and said, “ah no, we are not” He said “ah man, come on, we used to do that all the time at Colgan!” Yes and your company also crashed a plane in Buffalo killing all 49 people onboard and one poor dude on the ground. Anyway have more stories like that so if I hear “I fly by the book” it’s a HUGE red flag

[@extraordinarypilots]

Eeeeeeek, @@flyboywbl! (Sorry I missed your reply.) Glad you said, "Hell No." with that "captain." Y'all be careful out there, y'hear?

[@gentharris]

Wow.. I had the honor of being allowed to fly a Cub like this from the front seat!. If you can get in then you deserve it..... The owner at the time was the manager at 3DW.

[@extraordinarypilots]

It IS an honor to fly one of these old girls, @gentharris. You don't really "own" a Cub; you are just the temporary caretaker.

[@KarlHansen-d5m]

I already knew all that…

[@extraordinarypilots]

Of course...

[@craigfoster3431]

So fun to be back with you Captain! I was, am, and always will be, a student in aviation.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Me too, @craigfoster3431! Thanks for rejoining...

[@alancampbell1161]

Two points. As a retired instructor, the phrase "I know", always set the bells ringing, and got the response "don't tell me that you know, show me". And whatever level of experience we have, when we think that we know it all and nothing to learn, then it's time to quit.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Indeed. "Showing" makes it clear how deep the "knowing" goes quite quickly. It's an effective tool for teachers, @alancampbell1161.And you're right: There is no end to the opportunities for learning. It's all about choice.

[@braamvorster8249]

No matter where you are, asking questions is always good.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Couldn't agree more, @braamvorster8249! It's the doorway to new awareness..

[@billbinnings4347]

The '46 J-3 CUB taught me more about flying than any other airplane. Grass strip flying with the open side door was indescribable....the sights, sounds, feelings, smells, and sensations are burned into my memories forever. NOTE : if you go negative in a loop you will get gas in your face from the fuel tank cap. Also, if you land and hit a "cow pie" on roll-out, it will come into the cockpit from the right wheel. I later bought a '74 BELLANCA CITABRIA 7-GCBC which was also an excellent bird to hone airmanship and just feel the joy and exhiliration of simple flight.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Never tried the negative stuff in the Cub, @billbinnings4347. And thanks of the tip on cow patties coming aboard! Ik...

[@billbinnings4347]

@@extraordinarypilots Self-taught aerobatics aren't "pretty" for sure.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Right you are,@@billbinnings4347​!

[@tench745]

I was thinking maybe they were, “It’s fine.” But I definitely like the mindset you’re laying out.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Certainly in the "similar vein" category, right?

[@roginutah]

I was leaning towards '(that's) good enough.'

[@extraordinarypilots]

That's certainly a player, @@roginutah.

[@locustvalleystring]

"Watch this!" Thanks for a thoughtful video and some nice flying.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Those two words are also contenders, @locustvalleystring. Glad you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned...

[@yelyab1]

You are absolutely right. That makes 3 of us. You, me and the 14 year old. Unfortunately society still pushes the “know it alls” to the head of the class, corporation, team, what ever the endeavor involving more than one person. It seems this occurs even though we are gravitating toward a more humanistic belief system. The world is run by a select few of very old men of wealth and privilege their whole life who never had an original thought and don’t see the merits of an inquisitive mind. They were actually raised in a fashion to promote and strengthen the disgraceful “status quo”. It’s only those of us that experienced situations requiring inquisitive thought and resulting questions. People that make things and want them to work, not something you hang on a wall a discuss if it is a picture of the creation of the universe or the artist’s puke after getting some bad mushrooms. I’m 76 and I’ve created a lot of problems for myself by asking obvious questions. It soon became an intellectual sport. I’d rather learn how to fly. Keep up the good fight. No such thing as a stupid question.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Curiosity and questions are the lifeblood of a life worth living, @yelyab1.

[@jamesfrels7492]

Where the new is hidden! Beautiful!

[@extraordinarypilots]

And true, right @jamesfrels7492?

[@jamesfrels7492]

Absolutely. Truth is behind every question. Glory to God !

[@andyforrester9446]

The only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask!

[@extraordinarypilots]

I agree, @andyforrester9446.

[@alpenglow1235]

“A wise man does not contend. Therefore, no one can contend against him. Yield and overcome." - Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching. “Seek not to know the answers, but to understand the questions.” - Master Po

[@extraordinarypilots]

Love the Master Po quote, @alpenglow1235. Questions are highly underrated -- and often feared.

[@TheAirplaneDriver]

Another vote for “watch this”. By the way, I noticed you took off your shoes. I often fly with out shoes and when I do wear them, I am very fussy about what I am wearing. Tailwheel airplanes will teach you how important it is to feel the rudder pedals.

[@extraordinarypilots]

I feel more with my feet, and I've flown taildraggers that way for decades, so I guess the habit is pretty deeply entrenched. My students find the habit easy to develop, though some complain about that the rudder bars hurt their feet. That's often an indication that they are "standing up on the rudder pedals." with too much pressure. ("Easy boy...")

[@Burstix]

What's really funny, I fly GA and Bush airplanes in the sim every day. I always fly with shoes off because I am in the house. I wondered when I get my LSA, will I be able to fly with shoes on? Really cool I don't have to worry about that and I will just fly with my shoes off!

[@mmmarcd]

I didn't even realise I could fly without shoes on? I always drive without them on and didn't think I could do the same flying.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Barefoot is a whole new world @@mmmarcd!

[@wreckum56]

Watch this!

[@extraordinarypilots]

That's most definitely in the top five, @wreckum56!

[@robertnuckolls4349]

Noted that you fly it with your shoes off! Flew and owned a J3 for several years. If someone was in the front set, my shoes tended to get 'trapped' between front seat and sidewall. Discovered that heel brake operation dexterity was better with my shoes off! Great little airplane.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Absolutely correct, @robertnuckolls4349!

[@robbytheremin2443]

Another candidate for dangerous words might be "watch this". Also, at my age remembering is more of a problem than learning. 😂

[@extraordinarypilots]

There are others; like "Hold Ma Beer!" 😂

[@georgew.5639]

I know a lot. But I don’t know everything that there is to know. Sometimes I’m right. But sometimes I’m wrong. And I don’t have a problem with any of this.

[@extraordinarypilots]

That's a GREAT attitude, @georgew,5639! I'll not only keep you alive longer but make your flying more enjoyable and fresh.

[@montanasoftware5954]

Are you giving in-person lessons? I'm looking for a CFI. Thanks!

[@extraordinarypilots]

PM me: [e-mail]

[@arlo4051]

I found the best way to learn was to have to show someone else how to do it , you then make the extra effort to learn as much as you can in order to show someone else correctly . As the years go by I find the thirst for knowledge only gets greater. By the way , I learned to fly the Cub sitting on a stack of phone books so I could see over the cowl for level flight rudders were impossible to reach.

[@extraordinarypilots]

"As the years go by I find the thirst for knowledge only gets greater." Love that, @arlo4051! Learning to fly a Cub while sitting on phone books sounds challenging! (BTW, that IS this "phone book" that you mention? ;) )

[@brianrobertson1211]

I can top that: Watch This

[@extraordinarypilots]

Certainly a contender, @brianrobertson1211

[@swimbikeruntoday]

I can't say I've ever flown barefoot. Is it for feel and feedback?

[@extraordinarypilots]

It is. Flying a Cub with shoes takes a lot of the feel out of it. Heel brakes are challenging with stiff shoes.

[@dougwilliams8602]

“Out of fuel” and “The pilot is incapacitated”

[@extraordinarypilots]

We'll open the Hit Line to three and four word phrases a bit later, @dougwilliams8602. ;)

[@cabanford]

"Oh F**k"

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yeah, a top contender, for sure, @cabanford!

[@HolladayAviation]

Love this.❤

[@extraordinarypilots]

Thanks for "getting it," @HolladayAviation!

[@cassbiz]

Words well said.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Thank you, @cassbiz. Glad they rang for you!

[@commentatron]

My Cub CFI seems to discourage questions by frequently saying, "You're overthinking it." Or, "Go home now and do something else, don't think about flying." When I ask for a specific critique on a maneuver that wasn't up to expectations, it's frequently, "It isn't mechanical, it's feel. Use only what you need, when you need it." This Zen stuff is frustrating. Another brick wall: asking for a specific practice maneuver that would help fix a shortcoming and ingrain a better habit. There, vented (50 hours, and counting, toward a Sport Cert is becoming - interesting).

[@extraordinarypilots]

There's a place for that "Zen stuff," and a place for clear, concise instruction in our flight training, @commentatron. Sounds like you need an instructor who will provide more of the latter.

[@KevinS3928]

Two of the most dangerous words in aviation? That's easy, I've heard them a few times, they are "OH shit"!

[@extraordinarypilots]

Near the top of the list, too!

[@MarkShinnick]

Nicely done, thanks. :)

[@extraordinarypilots]

Thank YOU, @MarkShinnick. Glad it rang the bell for you.

[@Bob-cd5pp]

Hold My Beer

[@extraordinarypilots]

More prominent in the south, @Bob-cd5pp.

[@mkshffr4936]

That's odd.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Hopefully, followed by a careful inquiry, yes @mkshffr4936?

[@phillipwells6758]

Well said Sir.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Glad it rang the bell for you, @phillipwells6758.

[@contessa.adella]

The two most dangerous words…..”Bail out”

[@extraordinarypilots]

;) @contessa.adella

[@MrWATM]

I thought the two most dangerous words in aviation are, 'Oh shit...'

[@extraordinarypilots]

Those two are certainly in the lexicon, @MrWATM!

[@billbright1755]

Above all fly the air craft. Situational awareness. Fuel / oil and engine management. Proper preflight ( nothing loose or missing ) tires and brakes if applicable and check of aircraft center of gravity in limits. Practice mentally an engine failure at any moment. More prepared in unlikely event. Head on a swivel for other aircraft and birds. Know your aircraft’s limits and don’t ask her to do what she can’t.

[@extraordinarypilots]

@billbright: All good suggestions. How do you define "Situational Awareness"?

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

I think the two worst words in aviation are: “Check this!” Or another variation “Watch this!”……hole….smoke….

[@extraordinarypilots]

Those are certainly on the list, @jamesfeuilherade3664.

[@ronaldluning4010]

My names Ronald Jay Luning. Seems like a good name for a bush pilot, Ronald means wise council, middle name Jay, my last name is old german for sparrow. But unlike orville and wilbur I hit my head playing bike tag and lost my memory for two days. I sometimes wonder if most pilots have getthereitus in aquiring their licence.

[@extraordinarypilots]

That is a great name for a bush pilot, @ronaldluning4010 ! Welcome.

[@goodbarbenie5477]

My Yoga teacher always used to say, please when to enter Yoga studio or Ashram. Kindly leave your Shoes and Your Ego at the Door...Come in with no mind. As U can only be taught when U have no mind. In other words. It's not the case of the glass being half full or half empty. Because what ever U do, U will only be able to absorb half the knowledge, with other useless borrowed information that's already there. But if the glass is empty, U can always fill it up to the brime with knowledge and understanding.? Hahaa.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yes. "Leave your shoes and your ego at the door..."

[@Cedartreetechnologies]

"Clear prop"?

[@sstolarik]

Technically, since he’s outside the aircraft, and the one propping, he doesn’t really need to call, “Clear prop.” It’s really for a “blind start” while the one who starts the engine s sitting in the cockpit.

[@extraordinarypilots]

As @sstolarik says below, the "Clear prop" warning is designed to make people near the machete end of the aircraft that it's about to get dangerous. It's pretty easy to see that when someone is standing next to the machete.

[@BenDover-qj5mt]

Airmanship is an art form much like martial arts or playing an instrument. Only many hours of practice can make a good pilot into a great pilot.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Many hours of practice are helpful, but it takes many of the other things I plan to spotlight here on this channel, @BenDover-qj5mt . Welcome aboard! Thanks for subscribing.

[@IggyDalrymple]

Uh Oh!

[@extraordinarypilots]

Certainly one you don't want to hear in the cockpit, @IggyDalrymple!

[@onmyworkbench7000]

I would say "The Two of the Most Dangerous Words in Aviation." Is WATCH THIS!!!!

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yeah, those are pretty dangerous, @onmyworkbench7000!

[@raymondsanderson3768]

When I saw the title, my first thought was “Oh Shit!”

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yeah, those words could work too, @raymondsanderson3768 !

[@craigpatterson3612]

“No joy”

[@extraordinarypilots]

Could be, @craigpatterson3612 . Thanks!

[@garyowen9044]

“Watch this!”

[@extraordinarypilots]

That one should certainly raise the hair on the back of your neck, @garyowen9044!

[@RowanHawkins]

I usually include this in dangerous 3 word phrases since it is almost always "Hey, watch this!" When somebody discovers they can do something they probably shouldn't and are about to do it again showing why they shouldn't.

[@jimmckillip]

Richard Bach's younger brother?

[@extraordinarypilots]

I hear Richard is not doing well, these days @jimmckillip.

[@impale_an_eel_its_fun]

thankyou

[@extraordinarypilots]

Thanks for watching, @nicholasreynolds7558!

[@markmcgoveran6811]

Not everybody stops learning and figuring things out I've always been curious I asked a lot of questions and everybody's tired of me I'm 64 years old I haven't changed.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Keep up the questions, @markmcgoveran6811! Please. It's a sign of curiosity -- and intelligence.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

@@extraordinarypilots it's a miserable process if you're going to get anywhere because you have to ask the hard questions and ignore everybody's feelings. Everybody is proud of their glide ratio but if you think about it your glide ratio must drop a lot the tighter you turn the farther it drops and the faster you can fly while you're gliding the faster your glide ratio drops while you turn and with all of these mathematical limits it's the impossible turn that everybody thinks they have to try. Every airport should be having pictures of a possible turn from the low altitude that we are discussing and people should be briefed to land at those if they have a failure at take off. I see this in aviation a lot they just don't do the math. For a short takeoff and landing display with three airplanes who should fly first? Obviously the guy with the highest stall speed should fly first because he is inherently going to be in front of the other guys at a slow speed.I Saw Three guys land in the wrong order at a short takeoff and landing thing the slow man was in front he came in and a beautiful almost stalling speed the guy behind him had to exceed that speed or we would stall and he did all he could but he corkscrewed into the ground and nobody figured out the simple lesson here the guy with the highest stall speed should be in front of the guy with the lower stall speed in any landing situation with more airplanes than 1.

[@jamesrice6096]

I thought it was going to be "it's ok."

[@extraordinarypilots]

That's a player, @jamesrice6096.

[@bernie9728]

I thought it was going to be "oh shit". 😀

[@extraordinarypilots]

@@bernie9728 Could be a player, too!

[@amcconnell6730]

Why do you not know how many hours you have? FARs say you must log date, flight time, departure and arrival airport(s), aircraft make and model and identification, and the name of the safety pilot, if required. You also need to log the type of pilot experience, such as PIC, and conditions of the flight, such as day, night, or instrument.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Why do I not know exactly how many hours I have, @amcconnell6730? As I said in the video: It doesn't matter -- especially when you have 20K+ hours. It's a common misconception that the FARs REQUIRE that you log all flight time. Here's what it actually REQUIRES: 61.51 Pilot logbooks. (a) Training time and aeronautical experience. Each person must document and record the following time in a manner acceptable to the Administrator: (1) Training and aeronautical experience used to meet the requirements for a certificate, rating, or flight review of this part. (2) The aeronautical experience required for meeting the recent flight experience requirements of this part. That’s it. Notice the word "must" in the first paragraph (a). That's directive. I do that to meet the FARs, of course, but the rest...after a certain point, it really doesn't matter, other than bragging rights, perhaps. Thanks for the clarification question!

[@amcconnell6730]

@@extraordinarypilots OK - cool. I don't operate under FARs (I have Australian and UK ATPLs) - and I have 20517 hours.

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

So are you a better pilot because you know your exact hours? Seriously?

[@amcconnell6730]

@@jamesfeuilherade3664 Of course not. I don’t know how you read that. I was demonstrating that not all high time pilots give up on their admin duties.

[@nickbarsby3378]

... but finding the right person to ask is not always easy.

[@extraordinarypilots]

How so?

[@mattkaczorowski3099]

Plenty of instructors out there ;)

[@bottlestopper4353]

watch this

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yup. Pretty dangerous words, as well, @bottlestopper4353

[@Halli50]

When you have this much experience, your professional days are behind you and you only fly for the pleasure of it, you only NEED to log the bare minimum required to stay current on the equipment you fly. I assume everyone keeps logging everything, if only out of habit, but the bottom line does not matter much unless you like to brag. Like the 2 most dangerous words in aviation, the most dangerous PHRASE in aviation that I know is "Let me show you...", invariably followed by some ridiculous and dangerous stunts.

[@extraordinarypilots]

I sure hope my "professional days" aren't behind me, @Halli50. Still teaching.

[@Halli50]

@@extraordinarypilots, good for you! I imagine you are still learning as well.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Oh HELL YEAH, @@Halli50! That's one of the best parts!

[@muhammadsteinberg]

MAY and DAY!

[@extraordinarypilots]

Maybe not "dangerous," but attention-getting, for sure, @muhammadsteinberg.

[@rickstandal626]

And here I thought it was "OH SHIT" BTW I flew in a Taylorcraft BC12D.

[@extraordinarypilots]

Wise man, flying a T-Craft, @rickstandal626.

[@RWildekrav66]

I thought ……Uh Oh !

[@extraordinarypilots]

Definitely a contender, @RWildekrav66!

[@Bob-cd5pp]

What's that

[@extraordinarypilots]

That's certainly a player, @Bob-cd5pp !

[@iguanaamphibioustruck7352]

Good for you, you are using your knowledge, training and expertise in flying to point out the problem in our industrial society. Our education, training and experience are being programmed by people who are not qualified. And, the driving force is not making things better rather, it is money. It is not working so; GET SMART, GET TRUMP. Iguana

[@extraordinarypilots]

Yeah, I hope to address the "learning" issue (often) in upcoming episodes, @iguanaamphibioustruck7352.

[@wilfredpacquin2213]

Pilots talks too much as if they are all knowing. Fly and enjoy .

[@extraordinarypilots]

Certainly some do, @wilfredpacquin2213. Some do...

[@ItsAllAboutGuitar]

That's not true at all. Every pilot I know has very little ego and is generally offended if you do something like miss a takeoff briefing.

[@Themheals]

Curiosity is not allowed in commercial aviation. Yes is the word aviation business owners want to hear. Yes I will fly over weight. Yes I will fly a broken plane so you can make money. Yes the weather is not as bad as it seems so yes Ill go flying. The most dangerous word for your career is the word No. if you are tired of advancing in aviation then say the word no. You will find you have lots of time on your hands. Curiosity is nowhere to be found in any manual anywhere. Do what your are told. Keep your eyes averted, get the meatbags where they want to be and say the word yes all the time

[@extraordinarypilots]

Perhaps you're working for the wrong people, @Themheals.

[@Themheals]

@@extraordinarypilots Not anymore but where I am its every one of them.

[@tobberfutooagain2628]

“I know”. Haha. Thats the truth… beware…

[@extraordinarypilots]

Indeed, @tobberfutooagain2628.