Episode 36: Clan Salubri

[@aleksandarkrstic5341]

Other clans often fail to ask themselves one thing. They say there are seven Salubri healers who walk the night, and that might be true. The important questions is... how many Salubri who mastered Golconda after ages spent studying it, walk in the day, observing the kindred affairs from a safe distance? It's much easier to guide the second inquisition squad to the nearest Tremere chantry during the day, because kine would never suspect a day walker. Just saying of course. After all, what could a humble thin-blood with scarred forehead know about the affairs of powerful clans and sects?

[@bleddynwolf8463]

what do the other clans know of golconda?, those who knew the salubri in their prime may know it, but that is elders nearly a centuries age, most neonates who even know of the salubri know little to nothing of their past or their philosophy

[@VallornDeathblade]

I am stealing this plot point for a campaign. Thank you for inspiring such a diabolical Salubri to tear down the chantry (and the rest of the ivory tower if she has any say in the matter).

[@aleksandarkrstic5341]

@@VallornDeathblade My character in one of the sessions was a Greek from Constantinople whose sire and friends were slaughtered by Tremere (during the siege of 1453). He was saved by Assamite (who posed as Ottoman Turk soldier), and together they moved east. Centuries later, in order to hunt for the leader of Tremere coterie who killed his friends, my Salubri posed as a "holistic healer/guru" and moved to Warsaw (where campaign was happening) in order to kill the target. The Tremere in question became a regent of a local chantry, and Salubri found him. He decided to purge the entire coven by manipulating a young inqusition recruit. The Tremere ended up in flames, but the plot backfired for the Salubri as well since the players of the campaign (I made my former character a plot npc in the campaign) did some "unexpected things" as they wanted to curry favors with local Ventrue. The Salubri wasn't diabolist or inherently evil, he was driven by vengeance and had centuries to build up some additional grudge. I hope this helped, and I hope you create and enjoy the campaing!

[@Alejojojo6]

The Assault to the Pyramid has been orchestrated by the Salubri who are day walkers FOR SURE. A revenge for the tremere sins. What a coincidence that Tremere has survived the raid surprisingly eh? xD or should I say "Saulot in disguise"?

[@theanarchonazbolinquisitio7123]

@@Alejojojo6 "Thinbloods with weird scars on their heads? ignore those fledglings whats the worst that could happen?" Some random tremere before spontaneous combustion.

[@JohnSmith-xm4dk]

Salout persists within tremere and one day he will return to our world.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

#DicksOutForSalout

[@lolbots686]

@@LoreByNightVtM but consider What if saulot already walks among us. Escaping viennas ashes saulot hides among the light,achieving his agenda slowly but surely. And in gehenna? He may yet be ploting his own machinations,facing caine and those who wont follow upon his enlightenment And with his might,the salubri shall acend in ash. So says the diciple,the 1st of the forgiven of uriel,he who walks between worlds. **Saulot**.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

See above 🤷

[@JonathanClark-if4wb]

The symbol of clan salubri is a triangle, the tremeres ruling structure is the pyramid. The pyramid is a type of triangle. Iluminati confirmed.

[@wiilov]

And if you look to the left, you'll see the closest thing to good in the vampire communi-aaaand it's dead.

[@Heisen2420]

Or are they?

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

The seven and others hiding in secrecy: I AIN'T DEAD YET!!!

[@Alex-cq1zr]

​​@sneedfeedandseed2410 To be fair, old world of darkness is about punk - fight against the system and such, while in warhammer 40k humanity is slowly losing ground because Emperor was a jackass and destroyed other human civilizations and such before being half-killed A big point of world of darkness seems to be that you could live well and world wouldn't be burning... if you managed to somehow stop being a jackass

[@DoomBringerDANTE]

@sneedfeedandseed2410WoD isn’t Grimdark. It’s Gothic Punk. WoD will laugh at itself and show obscene scenarios. If WoD was Grimdark things like Ravnos, Crotoan, Ascension and Golconda wouldn’t be a thing. There are happy endings in WoD, but they are harder to achieve if you choose to involve yourself in the supernatural communities. And even then some can have happy endings even in their community. Like you could just research in the union for your entire life. Just hanging out with other awakened and treating it like another 9-5 and you’ll be fine. Traditionalists can do similar. Kindred have it the hardest because they are forced into their society by laws you never even knew existed and you can’t just 9-5 being a vampire. Your forced to play the game and many kindred find feuds to be the only thing they can do in order to spend time.

[@Lambach-Ruthven]

​​@@DoomBringerDANTE like the feud between tremere and the venture, or the tremere and the gangrel or the tremere and the salubri or the tremere and the tremere.

[@lolbots686]

"Few things frighten me. I say this and i mean it truely. The salubri are perhaps the most terrifying clan of vampires to still walk this world of darkness. Sure,we have a god on our side,sure the ventrue are wealthy,and clan lasombra commands the darkness incarnate. But the salubri are not mere vampires. They are the inheritors of saulot,vampires with knowledge known only to true magi and perhaps older creatures. Do you know why i fear them Neonate? Because i fought one. And lived. The last childer of samiel himself and i dueled,and he was a warrior of peerless skill. Many vampires are great fighters,but the childer of samiel are a sight to behold. I called upon my faith in set,i assumed many forms,yet either way,he fought as the mythical michael,his sword burning in azure fire,wreathed in such power. Our younger brethren may dabble in todays modernity in there own devotion,but i speak for many of us elders and Methuselahs when i say,only set and his first diciples could even hope to match the raw fury that was samiel and his ilk. You think a brujah can frenzy with horrible ease? Ha! Despite many seeking golconda,when a salubri is furious,the rabble look like pacifists in comparison,especially the salubri antitribu. But you did not come to some ancient setite because your nosferatu acociate sent me. You came to my humble abode to seek the perspective of one of the clans closest to the healers. I unfortunately am not one of lord sets original diciples,but i am experienced enough to say,that the salubri are perhaps the great tragedy in our existance. Many believe the gifts of caine a curse or a blessing. Both are right yet wrong. However. For the salubri,they inherit the one thing only poor zilah could only ignite in the dark fathers unbeating heart. His humanity. After all,it was supposedly misguided love that caused cain to murder abel was it not? Well. Perhaps should you speak with my sire she may be able to tell you. Oh and neonate? If you do happen to see mr Ashburn,do give him my regards. Oh i dont personaly know him but lets just say...his sire and mine? Go a long way back." "And then i came here today to let you know that before we began." "...you know your pretty stupid sometimes neonate? ...this is surprisingly inpressive how lucky your sorry ass is." The nosferatu ancient said,annoyed as usual at the neonate.

[@willynthepoorboys2]

You failed to answer the burning question, "Do Salubri prefer to drive a Subaru?" You have certainly packed this video with a tremendous amount of information, thanks for a great video.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

You're very welcome! Sorry for not addressing that. It is a topic that has garnered much bloodshed and did not want to bring that to KZbin

[@LouseGrouse]

Only just getting into this universe so I have A LOT to learn. I really like the sound of the Salubri, specifically the healer caste. Being benevolent sadly doesn't tend to survive in a world that often thrives on the opposite. It's a pretty tragic tale and sounds like it'd offer a challenge for a fledgling/neonate healer character in trying to balance upholding the masquerade with wanting to help as many as possible. And if you run into trouble and can't heal or talk your way out? Then good luck with trying to fight.

[@nerdydude1.882]

Honestly this just makes the tremere look like idiots I mean most mages worth their salt are capable of becoming liches dont get me started on arch spheres Thus gaining immortality without losing their magic however they were too lazy to put the consensus on their favor and panicked. Now they are stuck as nigthbound heroin addicts stuck in a brainwashing piramid scheme with their numbers ever dwindling and enemies on all sides. Hilarious stuff really.

[@rafaellago172]

But they DID get screwed by their greatest enemy: V5. The Vienna Chantry is in ruins, and both the Pyramid and Thaumaturgy (as a closely guarded Discipline with a cool name) are no more.

[@ssjjshawn]

Well let's just say that being a Wraith in the Old World of Darkness has some... drawbacks that make the Vampiric condition more favorable to those looking for immortality. As for OOU traditional Liches, that doesn't exist in Magicka/WoD. Straight up not possible even with reality bending ancient magic. So not really a path Tremere could take

[@TheAchilles26]

Pretty sure they were already losing their magic when they went and desperately diablorized Saulot

[@LoneWolf-gz9mr]

@@rafaellago172 You know a "Family Reunion" that would be terrifying and hilarious to see for outsiders? Like the necromancing clans did...... Tzimisce /Tremere/Salubri.. It would PROBABLY be a blood-bath, but if it wasn't... *shudder*

[@rafaellago172]

@@LoneWolf-gz9mr Extremely unlikely due to the persecution orchestrated against the Salubri (who the Tzimisce helped because they also hated the Tremere with a passion), but fun nonetheless. Everybody else would go freaking nuts. Technically, the three clans worked "together" in the Sabbat (Tzimisce + Tremere Antitribu + Salubi Antitribu) because the mainline Camarilla Tremere were so distrusted and hated that even their own clan wanted them gone.

[@Posturtle]

One might suspect a certain amount of projection on behalf of the Tremere regarding the negative qualities they attribute to the Salubri through their rumors.

[@margisama]

Another awesome episode

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Same! I’m glad I satisfied those needs somewhat 😅

[@SCP-49668]

11/10!! Need more! Also Need more Collin and this is yet another reason why need to purge out the entirety of Clan Tremere.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Oh I'm sure Collin will return soon...

[@maeve615]

Walks in wearing a dust coloured robe & a toy light-sabre on the belt, * waves hand & casts Hello,Goodbye * "This is not the Clan you are looking for" *leaves the room promtly *

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@LoreByNightVtM on a related note, it seems the Tremere have made it so this video doesn't show up in your clan lore playlist (to hide their crimes, most certainly)

[@carna-9501]

There are only 7 living Salubri left in modern nights. 7. From a clan of hundreds, diablerized and hunted until only 7 remain. Saulot will return, for he persists within Tremere and will eventually overtake him.

[@XianHaos]

I always played it as 7 known Salubri, who collectively (by democracy) act in lieu of an antediluvian. The rest hide, using their abilities as a service to the Nosferatu, Malkavian and Tzimisce in order to survive.

[@litchqueenasenath5995]

@@XianHaos That's interesting, considering that potentially means they work with both Camarilla AND Sabbat aligned kindred. But that creates some interesting opportunities for some weird sect transcending relationships.

[@TheAchilles26]

Technically that's only the Healers. The Modern Nights "Salubri Antitribu" (aka the surviving Warriors) are noticeably more than 7

[@zackpeacekiller243]

On the bright side, we didn't have to wait too long for quality content. So thank you for you hard work~

[@LoreByNightVtM]

No problem, thanks for your appreciation and patience!

[@nonamegiven202]

mildly amusing listening to this one after V5's translation of Salubri, their new clan weakness of "look if they didn't want to be eaten they shouldn't be so taste" and their unique powers being in clan for Hecata. though the connection between Tremere and Salubri is a interesting one, like the rare Tremere actually growing a third eye and (in V5) them sharing two of the displaces (along with Malkavian as well, playing into the Brothers aspect). one could argue, with the salubri blood within Tremere and seemingly Saulot in Tremere himself, that Clan Tremere is a clan of Saulot.

[@lilmichaeltaylor546]

I thought they were a Tzimisce bloodline

[@nonamegiven202]

Not really, people say it for two reasons. A. Tremere used the Tzimisce vampires for research when magic-ing themselves into vampires, but the Nagaraja (also mages who did the same thing but with the Ministry's blood) and general lack of Tzimisce's clan bane and such disproves that. B. a old Gehenna scenario would had Tzimisce (Antediluvian) taking over Tremere (Antediluvian) and going on merging with most of the human race. so yeah, not canon. BUT mostly it's just that Tremere are the meme thing to hate on in the community and that's people's go to dead horse for beating ;)

[@lilmichaeltaylor546]

@@nonamegiven202 thanks for such an enlightening explanation my friend

[@rafaellago172]

V5 did the Salubri dirty because, and this is based solely on conjecture, people were choosing them to play "vampions", thus downplaying the personal horror aspect of the game. A similar thing happened to the Children of Osiris, only these were pretty much discontinued.

[@alexharrington5060]

I still would love to hear this guy do one of these videos on the subject of wights, a warning to the neonate of what happens if he loses his humanity of sorts, with examples of horrifically infamous wights, what the final frenzy looks like, past a few condemnations a good a guess as any as to weather or not its the savage and forsaken wights who herald in Gahanna as all hope for humanity is lost and the beast rules the night... just a thought

[@lolbots686]

*the salubri. maybe the most tragic bunch of vamps ive ever seen. I havent really been around long but ive spoken to plenty of them and...well. if us setites were people made monsters by our natural vices,the brujah made monsters by there rage...the salubri were the monsters for the sake of the worst of monsters. Thats a pretty noble thing. And yet,whoopdedoo those hermetic ass looking vampires butchered them. Whats my opinion then? Well,i like them. I had my future stolen and given another. And hey,if any kindred can figure out golconda i might as well give a crack eh? But if I know the salubri...well who's to say there isnt daywalkers among us,yet you never realized it. Just some food for thought." -Sharena aspwen,setite witch for the anarchs being asked by a local coterie.*

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Anyone else think that Saulot symbol looks like a Millennium Puzzle?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

It’s time to duel Yugi...

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Lore By Night MIND CRUSH

[@rafaellago172]

@@dylanchouinard6141 Oh shit, now that you've said it, I just noticed Bandit Keith is always wearing a bandana over his forehead as if he's trying to hide something.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

@@rafaellago172 IN AMERICA!

[@twistedvox13]

Arius was here. Superb job buddy

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Thank you very much my good sir! My regards to you, the bros and marvellous ST.

[@shan4697]

Yay I didn’t gone deaf thank you for the reupload

[@LoreByNightVtM]

No you didn’t and you’re very welcome!

[@versebuchanan512]

God damn that music at the start damn near blew out my speakers

[@skyguy713]

Great video! Quick heads up, this isn't in the playlist of the clans.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

It is now!

[@LoneWolf-gz9mr]

Kinda makes me laugh that everybody thinks... "healer = good"... But that's not NECESSARILY the case... Anyone that can heal mortals and vampires of stuff that NOBODY and nothing else can, are going to be heralded as GODS.. Regardless of how and when they use that power. Maybe them ALL being "good" is just how everybody thinks of them. And the "dragon tear" has a LOT of other abilities, it's kinda funny it doesn't even enhance Auspex. It kind of makes no sense.... But if Saulot really DID learn some of the kindred of the east's secrets.. Then he effectively split his soul more then ANY other clan... That's kinda terrifying... It means maybe the salubri might be more HUMANE most of the time... But when they "break bad" does that mean they are WORSE then any clan too?

[@BedlamBoy1978]

Saulot....Father of the Salubri.....and the Baali

[@Alejojojo6]

Only filthy rumours!

[@BedlamBoy1978]

@@Alejojojo6 ....... Got worried I was about to see a red eye pop out at me from your forehead...... most lore is simply 'filthy rumor' though there is a good argument that Saulot is the accidental Grand Sire to the Baali bloodline.

[@hircenedaelen]

I favour cappadocius as the Baali antedeluvian

[@capthowdy7112]

Makes sense for saulot to be the father of baali more than any

[@capthowdy7112]

Makes sense for saulot to be the father of baali more than any

[@davidfriend6462]

Salubri? Nah, there never was such a clan. There are no Salubri. There are no Baali. There are just Salubaali.

[@aaronmcmillen8140]

That's TERRIFYING to think of ... But my headcannon is that Saulot DEFINITELY the Balli. Dark, dark story. I freaking love it.

[@lolbots686]

@@aaronmcmillen8140 considering saulot is the 1st to truely achieve golconda? Power over hell or other such realms similar to magi is possible for those like saulot,who walk beyond the mortal realm

[@chickenusgoddus464]

At long last

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Rather late than never 😅

[@purplethorn3865]

The truth of baali being the descendants of clan salubri was a lie, it was a propaganda of tremere. I have played ck3 princes of darkness and in fact they have their own antediluovian and some theories is that someone in clan salubri committed diablerie to the antediluovian of clan baali and secretley rebuilding clan salubri.

[@scottdoesntmatter4409]

You got the Healer disciplines wrong (as of the Dark Ages V20 book). And, you don't say anything about the Salubri activities in the dark ages.