Episode #4 Part #1 Guy and Trey The Bazed Up Elvis Movie How Inaccurate The Movie IS!!

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@jrose9378
@jrose9378 Жыл бұрын
I’m a product of the 1950s growing up in my teenage years loving Elvis. We all watched and studied him closely. Yes a lot in the movie was mixed up as far as timeline. If you didn’t know Elvis growing up you got fooled by the movies depiction. This guy BAZ got a hold of it and made it his own rendition before the ones knowing the real truth could do it! Money and power to produce a movie was how he got to do that. Thing is, Billy & Trey, how many of us have that power? It’s done and can’t be undone. We old timers know the truth-this new generation will not know his real life story and so “it is what it is” There will always be a controversy. Priscilla as a consultant-made herself look like the only woman in his life that mattered. Schilling-I never ever heard before that he was Elvis’ best friend-bull pucky! He was there yes but now hooked up with Pris as consultant. You can figure that one out easy.
@silvo-sings
@silvo-sings Жыл бұрын
Good comments - I agree.👍
@bertnobbe2746
@bertnobbe2746 6 ай бұрын
Billy and Trey you both are the best and trustworthy Elvis historians. I wish that there were people so correct on Johnny Cash. Keep on the good work May God bless you both.. Greetings from The Netherlands😀
@DazewithJordantheLion
@DazewithJordantheLion Жыл бұрын
I agree completely. The movie did more harm then good. Just perpetuated more falsehoods, stereotypes, and inaccuracies of his entire life..
@antoniamcgregor3285
@antoniamcgregor3285 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree 💯👏👏
@debracaldwell8195
@debracaldwell8195 Жыл бұрын
Right in Jordan! Say Hi to Jah!
@seerstone8982
@seerstone8982 Жыл бұрын
It did even more damage to Tom Parkers reputation, and integrity.
@lynnelovett8999
@lynnelovett8999 Жыл бұрын
I agree Mr. Jordan. Thank you for the TRUTH.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations Жыл бұрын
Hey Jordan! Cool to see you commenting here. I’ve yet to see the movie, so it’s good to see this info.
@millie1000
@millie1000 Жыл бұрын
I just love the commitment and passion from you two guys. With Elvis history in mind, please do a pod cast and talk about the huge amount of fake photos flooding the internet, all of which are distorting Elvis history amongst all the things you guys discuss
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
We sure will.. We even equate the movie to the photoshopped photos.. There is no difference.. They both destroy true history..
@dilligafTV1
@dilligafTV1 Жыл бұрын
People lost their ever living minds with this movie. I think Butler could have done a great job portraying the real Elvis.
@seerstone8982
@seerstone8982 Жыл бұрын
Butler was born, and raised in California. I've never seen a non southern actor sound authentic. His Elvis speaking voice sounded like a bad Elvis tribute artist.
@arkansawdave7984
@arkansawdave7984 Жыл бұрын
Butler did a HELL of a job, he lived & breathed the Elvis role for over 2 years during covid. He won a Golden Globe for his performance. The costume outfits were outstanding maybe they had some of the same consultants that made the jumpsuits, who knows.
@esthermuldur796
@esthermuldur796 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the movie In part is not factual but what I loved about the movie is Austin Butler’s portrayal of Elvis. He captured Elvis’ essence and he did a wonderful job. He didn’t come out as an imitator. That’s what Lisa Marie always said that Austin captured her father. I think they concentrated on Austin’s performance than the story. They didn’t even mention that the story was factual.
@cmcfarrell3517
@cmcfarrell3517 Жыл бұрын
It’s just a movie not a documentary. Everyone knows it’s entertainment. We have you both to give us the real facts. Lisa Marie spoke highly of the movie. I don’t think they ever said it was non fiction movie. I find movies about a real person aren’t always 1O0 % factual. It’s a shame the movie didn’t have cover all the things you mentioned.There may be a possibility the new people to Elvis will set about to learn the truth and-more facts about him. They will really appreciate you as historians of Elvis. I understand your frustrations. Movies done about real people can’t always cover it all. Thank you for all you do.
@retrobilly1719
@retrobilly1719 Жыл бұрын
The Movie did a world of Good to bring Elvis to a New Generation of Fans,It condensed events & took artistic license to make dramatic points & to move the story along they only had 2 1/2 hrs.The Visuals and Austin & Cast were Fantastic ,The Movie is not a Documentary .The point is to Bring Elvis the Recognition & Respect he deserves and as a result more real Elvis footage & projects.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree show me the proof it brought a new generation in first.. I can prove with numbers in mine and Trey's youtube channels that show the ages of watchers of the Elvis videos before and after the movie and there was a .3% change down in the zero to 34 years old even right now combined viewing is 12.1% of total watchers and 8% of that is 25-34 down .3 after the movie so watchers before and after the movie to a channel that is almost only Elvis history had a viewership before the movie of 12.% and after this miracle movie to get young people fired up has a viewership of 12% so down .1% in the 13-34 age range.. I actually put the comparison side by side and in 13-17 I am up .1%. In the 18-24 I am up.1% and in 25-34 I am down .3% so statistically this movie did not to bring in a younger audience after they watched the movie.. What is the point of a movie about a person that is not about that person..
@lifeintune7851
@lifeintune7851 Жыл бұрын
The movie brought myself in, I’m in the Elvis generation but never was a fan, now I’m a fanatic. Never would I have taken a trip to Graceland but I’ll be there next week. But the real testimony is my 32 year old stepdaughter is now a fanatic and going with me to G in May. I’ve done a deep dive into the real Elvis. There’s no way one could have put Elvis in 2 1/2 hours. It was about Elvis and the Colonel, that was it.
@retrobilly1719
@retrobilly1719 Жыл бұрын
@@lifeintune7851 Well Said,I’ve seen & Heard so Many Stories of New Elvis Fans being hatched as a Result of seen this Film,with the Current Oscar Nominations & Publicity,Sure there will be Much more Fans & Interest,Especially new Younger Fans The Filmmakers & Cast are fans,you can tell
@retrobilly1719
@retrobilly1719 Жыл бұрын
@@lifeintune7851 Cool you & Your Stepdaughter are going to Graceland ! You’ll Love it👍
@bonehr4377
@bonehr4377 Жыл бұрын
Elvis is notorious he did not need this movie . To me it hurt his image .
@chezperrine
@chezperrine Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, all is written, or probably at least the majority of Elvis' story is available out there through videos like yours, books, through the very mouth of the closed ones still with us today. There was no need whatsoever to rewrite some parts. His life was more magical and incredible than any man-made fairytale.
@gracieg7601
@gracieg7601 Жыл бұрын
I agree! I saw Hank Snow live once at the broken spoke in Austin Texas when I was a teen age girl. My friends mom worked there. So we were allowed on one evening to see Hank snow was a good show. He was a country singer with a big voice. Everyone loved him. I didn’t ever know Hank Snow was anyplace on a show with Elvis till I saw your videos about Elvis and Hank snow. I’ve learned so much in the correct chronological order about Elvis. I didn’t like the way they showed Gladys. I don’t believe for a minute that Elvis would have ever cuss at his mom. I just don’t see him ever talking to his mother that way.
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Elvis would've shot the movie screen. Fer shure... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@oehasan
@oehasan Жыл бұрын
The thing is with each passing year the number of people connected to the Elvis story are diminishing. Therefore there are less and less people around to debunk the myths/half truths. The concern therefore is that in 20/30 years from now this film will be viewed as the definitive version of events.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
You are correct and another issue is some of those people are actually causing mistruths..
@leach9622
@leach9622 Жыл бұрын
I may not know you personally but I’d call you both friends
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
And we consider you a friend as well!!
@richardeidemiller6739
@richardeidemiller6739 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even make it to the end. I walked out at the point he was crawling on his hands and knees after Priscilla. I squirmed in my seat the entire time with embarrassment. This was a lost opportunity big time. Vicki
@TCB0816
@TCB0816 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you guys. And I'm so glad you guys put the story right the way it really was
@VegasVixen
@VegasVixen Жыл бұрын
Somewhere I saw an interview with Pricilla during covid talking about the movie and how she was nervous because she has no creative control on it and she hopes it works out . There also was an interview with Tom hanks who said Elvis wasn’t cool when he was a kid , the interview was really off putting .
@antoniamcgregor3285
@antoniamcgregor3285 Жыл бұрын
The thing that really annoyed me with the film was Priscilla being a Saint and the fact she cheated on him wasn't brought up at all 😂😂 she was Saint Cilla of the Angels OK Elvis was unfaithful to her which I'm not saying was right but still it's laughable and pathetic
@saltrisha1
@saltrisha1 Жыл бұрын
That was one of the biggest annoyances about the whole thing,not to mention leaving Linda out of it!
@karentarkington236
@karentarkington236 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, ive not seen the movie but knowing linda was cut out already makes it lopsided. She was a huge part of his life during important years. No doubt priscilla did much to preserve Elvis legacy but its not about her...
@pamelaelensky6309
@pamelaelensky6309 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Austian Butler Joy to Our HEARTS , & SOULS 🎤✨🙏⚡😘TCB ❤️✝️😎🎶🎺✨🌟💫🎵🎻🎸🥁🎷💞💕🥰🌟🎸
@rolltide9547
@rolltide9547 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for your knowledge and showing the lies in this movie.
@freemanreed5228
@freemanreed5228 Жыл бұрын
God bless you Billy and Trey for all you have done to set the Elvis story straight. I have been an Elvis fan for years, I was born in May of '68, same year as Lisa. I lost my dad in March of 1977 from cirrhosis of the liver, alcoholism, he just couldn't stop!!!! Lisa lost her dad the same year with drug dependancy a major factor. I feel Lisa's pain, I know what she went through. I have loved Elvis and read about his career, the good and the bad, since I can remember. I knew going into this Elvis movie that it was going to be Hollywood's take on Elvis. But I had hopes that Baz would have at least got the big stuff right. Like he bought Graceland in March of 1957. In the film he is living in Graceland before the second Milton Berl show in May of 1956!!!! Those types of inaccuracies are aggravating, especially when Baz himself, really knows the facts, but he opted for artistic license instead. Elvis's career could not be condensed into a two and a half hour movie, without liberties being taken. Giving Col Parker nearly half the screen time didn't allow for much of Elvis's private life story, to be told. Tom Hanks was the star that was going to carry this movie, they had to give him plenty of screen time. A lot of the world loves Tom Hanks and would see a movie just because he was in it. A lot of the Elvis world views Col Parker as a devilish manipulator. He got Elvis into a bunch of terrible movies in the 1960's, that Elvis couldn't get out of. He was singing songs that were terrible as well and never got to see his full potential developed. Just as long as Elvis got paid, that was all that mattered. You might carry the Parker's water for him, but most of the Elvis community doesn't!!!! Not allowing Elvis to tour abroad and railroading him into marrying Priscilla, Elvis said that in his conversation with Red West in Oct of 1976, his own words was he was railroaded!!!! The Col should have settled this with Mr Bealou, and got Elvis out of that mess, which basically ruined his life. He wasn't ready for marriage and most likely was never going to be. There is so much of the story left on the table, they should have just focus on one era of Elvis's life, instead of all of it. The definitive Elvis movie is yet to be made!!!! I hate to tell you, but no 2 1/2 or 3 hours is going to do it. Austin Butler did his best to his abilities, but lol, he is no Elvis!!!! But who else is???!!!! At least a major motion picture was made about the man. It's a start. All we can do is see what happens next.
@Della624
@Della624 9 ай бұрын
@freemanreed5228 *You might carry the Parker's water for him, but most of the Elvis community doesn't!!!* = That's because most of the Elvis Community wants to blame anyone and everyone for Elvis passing away when he did rather than at least portion most of it on Elvis himself. Tell me how it makes sense that Parker who, according to most of the Elvis Community, was all about making money for himself would, according to the Elvis Community, deliberately work his money making machine into an early grave? The accusation is so contradictory it's laughable. But then even if it comes to light that Parker was actually trying to get Elvis off the medication or at least cut back from it, the Elvis Community would accuse Parker of only doing that because he needed the money Elvis could make for him. All in all, there is proof beyond a shadow of doubt Tom Parker cared for Elvis for legitimate caring reasons, but the Community will sooner listen to someone like Alanna Nash with her preconceived, ignorant hateful thoughts, than the facts in front of them. During that conversation with Red, Elvis Presley never once mentioned Parker railroading him into marrying Priscilla. In fact Elvis has never said why he felt pressured into marrying Priscilla and who was actually doing the pressuring - there's a lot of supposition from certain Memphis Mafia Members who appeared to have an axe to grind; members that would have had no idea on the goings on behind the scenes but want you to believe they did. As for the Movies, they are regarded as terrible now, but at the time the fans could not get enough of them. True that by the time Change of Habit came about, his last movie, they were not selling as good as previous ones, but that still did not mean he was not making a lot of money from them because he was. As a side note: Did you know that when Elvis expressed a desire to make non-singing movies, despite RCA and MGM saying no, Tom Parker still wrote up a contract for TWO non-singing movies and took it elsewhere. It was taken up by National General Pictures and Charles Marquis Warren but as ONE Non-singing Movie which was Charro! It did not sell well at all. It could have been because the fans demanded a singing Elvis or by the time Charro was made, toward the end of his movies deals, that the fans were simply fatigued with the movies - especially since the 1968 Comeback Special had aired and was an overwhelming success. See what Parker did for Elvis ... KNOWING it would not do as well because there were no songs in the film. But no, he can't have done that, right, because Parker was all about making money for himself and only himself....
@freemanreed5228
@freemanreed5228 9 ай бұрын
@@Della624 Lol, come on now!!!! Parker was all about making money for himself!!!! His gambling debts in Vegas turned Elvis into an overworked wreck. If you didn't know that, I am glad to inform you. Larry Geller, you probably don't know who that is???? He was Elvis' hair dresser and confidant,who said after Elvis was overcome with exhaustion and drug abuse, that Col Parker proclaimed the only thing that matters is that boy goes out on stage tonight, that's the only thing that matters!!!! Col Parker rode Elvis into the ground!!!!! Elvis even tried to fire your beloved Col, but ole Parker scared him off of it!!!! You Col Parker apologists are half nuts, certainly liberal revisionist historians to say the least. Elvis did say he was railroaded in that phone conversation with Red West. He proclaims he was railroaded into marrying Priscilla!!!!! Lol, go back and listen to it again!!!!! Priscilla's dad was putting the squeeze on Elvis and was going to spill the beans to the media, about Elvis' relationship with his daughter. Elvis moved her into Graceland as an underaged teen. Gee, I wonder how that would have played out!!!! Your beloved Col got the call from Priscilla's dad and went to work to arrange a hasty marriage!!!!! Elvis promised to marry her and by gosh, he was going to do it, or else!!!!! Don't make promises you can't keep, I still don't know if Elvis learned his lesson or not??? Any way, you can get on the Col Parker bandwagon all you want, you can ride until sundown, that's up to you???? The rest of us can see for ourselves, that Elvis should have stuck to his word and fired that beloved, so called Col of yours. He would have been better off!!!
@Della624
@Della624 9 ай бұрын
@@freemanreed5228 @freemanreed5228 Larry Geller was Elvis Presley's Hairstylist and Guru - he was not his confidant. They spoke about Spiritual things, not about business, or love or anything else. Larry Geller is also a shyster. He changes his stories on a regular basis. He did not reside at Graceland at all, so his stories have the feel of the fantastical to them, unless of course you want to believe in so many coincidences occurred where Geller was in the right place at the right time on numerous occasions just to see how badly Tom Parker treated Elvis Presley. Please, just give me a break. Geller wasn't even with Elvis for the last few months of his life and Billy Smith denounces Geller's claim that he was the last one to have touched Elvis Presley and also Geller's claim that Elvis Presley's hair and sideburns needed touching up with boot polish - Billy washed Elvis’ hair the night he passed away. To be honest, I don't even need Billy Smith to corroborate this because according to just about all other accounts, Elvis was particular about the way he looked, and since he was about to go on tour the next day, there is just no way Elvis would have left the colouring of his hair and sideburns to the last minute, especially knowing he could’ve been sighted as soon as he left Graceland. I get the impression that all you do is read and watch things and believe what you're being fed. You don't even bother to make sure that what you're being told by, in this instance, Geller in one video/book/interview actually coincides with all the other times he has spoken/written on such subjects, all you do is watch the videos, read the books and believe. You don't care about whether or not your own opinion has a strong foundation based on truth, all you care about is gorging on stuff that supports your own ignorant, nasty vindictive opinion, and I believe you do that because you simply cannot accept the FACT that Elvis Presley was as surely as responsible as anyone else, more so in fact. Still, what made me chuckle the most about your response is your childish attempt to insult me just because you have encountered an opinion that threatens your ignorant one. RE: Railroading: This is what I had written: *During that conversation with Red, Elvis Presley never once mentioned Parker railroading him into marrying Priscilla. In fact Elvis has never said why he felt pressured into marrying Priscilla and who was actually doing the pressuring - there's a lot of supposition from certain Memphis Mafia Members who appeared to have an axe to grind; members that would have had no idea on the goings on behind the scenes but want you to believe they did.* I have listened to that phone-call and Elvis did not say he had been railroaded by Tom Parker into getting married. It is Red West who makes the suggestion which is not followed up by Presley. I have my own theories on that - I believe Elvis was railroaded, but by Priscilla and I believe the reason he was railroaded is revealed in "Elvis Presley by the Presley's" when Priscilla is talking to her Father. Her Father lets the cat out of the bag big time. This is how I know you have done no research whatsoever. Priscilla did not come to Memphis until 1962 when she was SEVENTEEN years of age. Legal. She returned to Germany. She then returned to Memphis in 1963 when she was EIGHTEEN years of age. Legal. There is no actual date Priscilla states as to when she moved into Graceland, it is inferred as being 1963 when she says “by the time Elvis asked me to move into Graceland, all my clothes were already there” Your surmising of what went on behind the scenes in regards to the “hasty” marriage reads like a child’s version of events and is full to the brim with suppositions rather than with any kind of actual facts, but you believe those suppositions with all your heart, right? Pfffffft!
@Della624
@Della624 9 ай бұрын
@@freemanreed5228 Larry Geller was Elvis Presley's Hairstylist and Guru - he was not his confidant. They spoke about Spiritual things, not about business, or love or anything else. Larry Geller changes his stories on a regular basis. He did not reside at Graceland at all, so his stories have the feel of the fantastical unless you want to believe in so many coincidences occurred where Geller happened to be in the right place at the right time on numerous occasions just to see how badly Tom Parker treated Elvis Presley. Geller wasn't even with Elvis for the last few months of his life and Billy Smith, his Cousin who spent 1974-1977 by his side and was his confidant, denounces Geller's claim that he was the last one to have touched Elvis Presley and also Geller's claim that Elvis Presley's hair and sideburns needed touching up because of some grey showing through - Billy washed Elvis’ hair the night he passed away. To be honest, though it is good to ahve such a corroboration it's not really needed since according to just about all other accounts, barring Geller's, Elvis was very particular about the way he looked, and since he was about to go on tour the next day, there is no way Elvis Presley would have left the colouring of his hair and sideburns to the last minute, especially knowing he could’ve been sighted as soon as he left Graceland's front doors. To be frank with you, I get the impression that all you do is read and watch things and believe what you're being fed. You don't bother to make sure that what you're being told by, in this instance, Geller in one video/book/interview actually coincides with all the other times he has spoken/written on such subjects, all you do is watch the videos, read the books and believe. You don't care about whether or not your own opinion has a strong foundation based on truth, all you care about is gorging on stuff that supports your own ignorant, nasty opinion. RE: Railroading: This is what I had written: *During that conversation with Red, Elvis Presley never once mentioned Parker railroading him into marrying Priscilla. In fact Elvis has never said why he felt pressured into marrying Priscilla and who was actually doing the pressuring - there's a lot of supposition from certain Memphis Mafia Members who appeared to have an axe to grind; members that would have had no idea on the goings on behind the scenes but want you to believe they did.* I have listened to that phone-call and Elvis did not say he had been railroaded by Tom Parker into getting married. It is Red West who makes the suggestion which is not followed up by Presley. I have my own theories on that - I believe Elvis was railroaded, but by Priscilla and I believe the reason he was railroaded is revealed in "Elvis Presley by the Presley's" when Priscilla is talking to her Father. Her Father lets the cat out of the bag big time. This is how I know you have done no research whatsoever. Priscilla did not come to Memphis until 1962 when she was SEVENTEEN years of age. Legal. She returned to Germany. She then returned to Memphis in 1963 when she was EIGHTEEN years of age. Legal. There is no actual date Priscilla states as to when she moved into Graceland, it is inferred as being 1963 when she says “by the time Elvis asked me to move into Graceland, all my clothes were already there” - which reveals conniving and manipulation on her part. Still, what made me chuckle the most about your response was your childish attempt to insult me and the lengthy surmising of what went on behind the scenes in regards to the marriage, how it reads like a child’s version of events and is full to the brim with suppositions rather than with any kind of actual facts. I'd hazard a guess you believe those suppositions with all your heart, right?
@freemanreed5228
@freemanreed5228 9 ай бұрын
Lol, blah, blah, blah!!!!! Even paramedics who went to Graceland on August 16 of 1977 didn't recognize Elvis!!!!! Because he had greying hair!!!! Stop trying to break down a persons eyewitness account. Hell, even Billy himself has took to task Billy Smith's own recollections of Elvis and as a personal witness to history, that makes me very uneasy. Larry Geller was a personal friend of Elvis and Elvis sought out his company as he was curious about the meanings of life. He was able to talk to Larry about things he could never talk to anyone else about. Liberal revisionist historians!!!!!!! One of these days you are going to trip over your own mind!!!!! Most liberals normally do!!!!!
@ramonatepel1701
@ramonatepel1701 Жыл бұрын
💯agree🙏⚡️you are so right!!!
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 7 ай бұрын
BILLY!!!!!!! I walked out of the movie glaring at my husband. I couldn't contain myself! I kept saying HOW DO YOU NEED TO MAKE ELVIS WOKE?!?! HE WAS BORN, LIVED AND RAISED WITH & IN THAT COMMUNITY. You don't have to fake it!! HE LIVED IT!!!
@GaryM-cy3jf
@GaryM-cy3jf Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your dedication to the Elvis story. I think the Elvis movie was fantastic visually and I think the acting was awesome. I wish the true story was told and I hope the next movie Pricilla is better factually. The lack of Elvis' giving, the lack of Linda Thompson, and not to mention events not being depicted correctly. You guys are fantastic.
@renitamcintyre1071
@renitamcintyre1071 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully for you both .
@hollywinningham6375
@hollywinningham6375 Жыл бұрын
I liked the movie, but I knew from the beginning there were not factual parts in it, but I've studied E for years and have been a fan for 50 years...I felt it was more abt parker...great job spa guy and trey ❤...people need to know the facts and truth
@Elizabeth-qc4co
@Elizabeth-qc4co Жыл бұрын
My mom adores Elvis I've known about him since I have memory she agrees 💯
@mjanovec
@mjanovec Жыл бұрын
With the true story of Elvis’ life being so rich and fascinating, there should be no need to embellish it with “artistic license.” If a filmmaker can’t make a film work about Elvis while sticking to the facts, they aren’t a very good filmmaker. The same thing happened with Oliver Stone’s movie about The Doors. They took an interesting man with an interesting story and reduced him to being an obnoxious drunk. It turned me off to Jim Morrison for several years until I bothered to learn the true story. Unfortunately, most “biopics” are just fantasy pics. The safe assumption these days is to mistrust what you see on the screen, as most of these films are usually just serving one person’s agenda… not the facts.
@hamhocksandflipflopsfarms
@hamhocksandflipflopsfarms Жыл бұрын
LOVE the fact that you guys are speaking the truth. My big "shake my head" moment was when they show Elvis buying the Lisa Marie in 1969. He didn't get that plane till 1975. Unnecessary changes in the Elvis history. Like you said, Elvis' story and life was amazing enough on its own. Why embellish when you don't have to?
@oehasan
@oehasan Жыл бұрын
All Hollywood bios will use dramatic license. This film was not aimed at die hard Elvis fans who have lived and breathed Elvis for decades. I am always apprehensive about watching any Elvis bio as it’s near impossible to capture what Elvis was or what he meant to people. Also, the young 50s Elvis is impossible to imitate. What I will give Baz credit for if that he tried to capture the period from 70 to 77, whereas previous bios have stopped at around 69/70.
@andrewsutcliffe4889
@andrewsutcliffe4889 Жыл бұрын
Priscilla reminds me a lot of Megan Markel, I think they are both grifters. She and Jerry Shilling were consultants on the movie...I have no doubt that she is a very good buisness woman and the movie has made a lot of interest and money for EPE but there was no reason whatever that the true accurate story could not of been told. The only reason I could imagine is that in order to be granted access to Graceland and to the costumes and other artifacts Priscilla and Lisa would need to be on board. It seems that the price for this was to show Cilla in the best light possible and to practically erase all the entourage and family that she clearly despised and blamed for the end of her fairytale. Since Elvis died Priscilla and Lisa have made hundreds of millions through exploiting Elvis's name property and legacy but unlike Elvis who loved all his friends and extended family and lavished money attention and gifts, His ex and daughter have cut off almost all the family and friends and Lisa has pretty much squandered most of the legacy.
@cut1986
@cut1986 Жыл бұрын
The first time I watched the movie I was in total agreement. After I thought about it some more and gave it another look I was able to understand some of the non-historic scenes that were depicted. The movie was not about Elvis as much as it were about how the Colonel viewed both of their journeys for 20 years. It was about the fears he imagined may happen along the way. Obviously real fans know Elvis didn't fire the Colonel from the stage but he may have worried it could happen. Same with the false '68 comeback Christmas sequence depicting the backdrops and sweaters. I too love when things are exactly the way they are supposed to be but get the creative thought put into how the story was told. I too am not a fan of people believing things that didn't really occur but I don't think it was the point of this movie. Thanks guys for the great work both of you do. I appreciate the history you bring in your videos.
@johnfarr2738
@johnfarr2738 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@tonyvoyles296
@tonyvoyles296 Жыл бұрын
I am sure Elvis would have not liked the inaccurate things about his life. If anything he would have appreciated that we have not forgotten him. That really was what was in his heart. Elvis didn't realize himself that he was and is simply unforgettable
@debracaldwell8195
@debracaldwell8195 Жыл бұрын
,Yeh, Elvis would be mad like when the Colonel jacked with his music.
@annib77
@annib77 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness you two are just 100% spot on with things you say. The points you make are just, well amazing. Facts are facts. I sat in the first 10 minutes of the movie saying to myself....What? Eh? Really? Thats not right! Yes I agree the visual part from the '68 to Vegas is very 'glossy' and very good. But what a shame to do such an injustice to such a unique talent of a man.
@ROCK.ON.
@ROCK.ON. Жыл бұрын
THANKS SPA GUY AND TREY
@lyndajolacava4891
@lyndajolacava4891 Жыл бұрын
I love you guys and would rather watch your shows than that new "Elvis "movie. Keep up your good work
@carolrobinson2139
@carolrobinson2139 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a clip where Baz talked to Sam Bell. I saw it several months before the movie started, but didn't see anything of Sam in the movie
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Yes and I talked to Sam years before.. He was using Sam to start the Woke parts of the movie..
@michaellemon6680
@michaellemon6680 Жыл бұрын
I never wanted to watch the movie but I tried too and I didn't finish it I turned it off. When I seen Priscilla in interviews endorsing the movie saying how good it was and how it was so real to her it made me mad. It completely changed my opinion on Priscilla. I tried to be positive at first thinking well its good to get a new generation interested in elvis. But as time goes on i don't think it's good. I've reserched elvis in deep since I was a kid I've put in the work to find out as much as possible cause I'm a true fan of his life just as much if not more than his music. It's just very disappointing.
@roymarksberry4152
@roymarksberry4152 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was great that they made a movie about. It didn't tell the true story of the man you guys are right? A lot of young people will not do the research in the find the truth. They were just go off the movie you guys were right
@VegasVixen
@VegasVixen Жыл бұрын
That movie left me wondering “if I wasn’t a fan or know the backstories , did the movie even make sense ? “ I tried watching it another time and just couldn’t get though it . I loved the sets though . I felt like it was a really long trailer to a movie . I’m wondering when the longer version comes out if it will have a better timeline .
@richardeidemiller6739
@richardeidemiller6739 Жыл бұрын
If I didn't already know the man, and was a fan, this mess wouldn't have made me interested in knowing more.i thought it was a bad joke. Vicki
@elvisfan6475
@elvisfan6475 Жыл бұрын
I really don't think you can get everything about Elvis in a movie. All his music and how he would sing and dance. How he dressed and his personality. His movie years. All his giving to family friends and total strangers. Things that happened at Graceland or his houses out in California. What happened during his concerts. Elvis did so much. All the girls he dated. Stories of the Memphis mafia. I'm so afraid the truth is gonna get buried as the years go by and the lies are gonna grow. Thanks spa guy and trey for everything you both do. I really appreciate both of you.
@dilligafTV1
@dilligafTV1 Жыл бұрын
No but you dambn sure could have made it more accurate.
@lynnelovett8999
@lynnelovett8999 Жыл бұрын
Sadly I was given this movie as a present. I don't have the heart to tell that person that I don't want to watch this movie. That person just knew that I love Elvis but not this NOT SO GOOD movie. While recently in the hospital one of the therapist said she had seen it. She said it wasn't truthful about Elvis but more about Parker !! I have heard others say that they liked it. No excuse for taste, lol !!!! I believe the movie was a cash cow for Priscilla and the late, sadly, Lisa Marie (she was broke and needed money). I agree with you guys. Thank you Mr. Spa Guy and Mr. Trey for the TRUTH about that movie. Stand your ground!! God bless and keep you both.
@a_Somer
@a_Somer Жыл бұрын
I majored in History, so I understand y'all's frustration. But at the same time, it's just a movie. Made to entertain & make a profit. That's all. The details the movie got wrong y'all listed are explained with the fact the whole movie is from the Colonel's perspective, start to finish. He's telling the story of how he saw Elvis' start, rise & end. Things like Audubon Dr. not being shown are because why would the Colonel put any significance on it? Yea, it may have been the 1st house Elvis ever owned, but for dramatic effect AND time constraints it makes more sense to show the Presleys going (almost overnight) from the projects to a mansion. Not mentioning Elvis' generosity, or getting when he gave the Messerchmit to Hal Lansky correct is much more understandable when you realize Colonel is telling the story. Of how he remembers it. He's actually defending himself in the movie. It starts off with he's about to die & hearing bad things about him being lobbied about in the press so he says "no, that's not how it happened. Without me, there'd be no Elvis." He's reminiscing about Elvis as HE saw it (and how he's convinced himself it played out.)
@GlobetrottingWithTrey
@GlobetrottingWithTrey Жыл бұрын
The Colonel’s perspective was a fairytale and I guarantee he would be raising hell right now if he was alive.. this movie would not be made if his wife didn’t die 2 years ago. Btw they forgot to add at the very end of the film that epe actually had to pay 2 million to the colonel hahaha that was a big thing they left out! Baz made Colonel penguin from Batman… I bet that was his inspiration
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
I might give it a pass if they got the Colonel's part right but it was fabricated as well Not even close to the truth..
@cut1986
@cut1986 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Through the Colonel's eyes.
@stjr5334
@stjr5334 Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan and really appreciate these videos. I didn't realize just how much false information was put into the movie, thanks so much gentleman for all you do. Steve from Vancouver, Canada
@sentinel3504
@sentinel3504 Жыл бұрын
I understand all the points you’re making. The Elvis story is a complex one. I think it would be impossible to make a two, three or even four hour movie that would do more than scratch the surface. You could make a four hour movie and barely cover Elvis’ life prior be being drafted into the Army. They didn’t touch at all on the American Studio recordings that were probably as big if not bigger in propelling Elvis into superstar status of the 70s than the 68 special was. The other problem is if you want to talk about all the women it’s not necessarily going to add to the positive image of Elvis. And as I’ve said before imagine a movie that’s sticks true to everything. Do you really want to see Elvis pushing an M16 into Red Wests hands telling him to take out Mike Stone or one of Elvis’ uncomfortable rants he did on stage during the 74 August/September shows? That time in Elvis life was significant but is it something really needed to tell the story. The movie was definitely going for a “feel” and did have plenty of elements of the current “wokeness” movement inserted. Going into depth about Elvis’ other serious relationships after Priscilla would have changed the feel the movie was going for. Even though Elvis had happiness and joy in his life after Priscilla his overall story is a bit a tragedy and that’s what the film I believe accomplished in showing. People I know who are not Elvis fans came away feeling sympathy and empathy for Elvis. They did not see the caricature “thank you very much” Elvis but rather the part of Elvis that was introspective and sensitive to the world around him. An Elvis that was trying to find his way in the world. Of course that part of Elvis is only one small part of who he was. The other thing the movie did was capture the music and look of Elvis. And the reality is that music is what it’s all about. The performances were presented in an accurate and respectful way. I don’t think any other Elvis related movie has come close to doing that. Most have been a boarder line mockery of Elvis. So from an accuracy of how certain things happened leaves a lot to be desired but from a movie going for a feel I think it accomplished that. Just my opinion.
@fauxgirl2197
@fauxgirl2197 Жыл бұрын
They need to make a 6 ++ episodes in depth binge like doc series with star cast portraying Elvis life from factual history star casting ALL the characters in.. perhaps now someone will.
@sentinel3504
@sentinel3504 Жыл бұрын
@@fauxgirl2197 I hear what you’re saying about a miniseries type event. I just don’t see that accomplishing that much more. I think for people looking for a complete picture on any historical figure the written word is the best supplemented by other media sources. In Elvis case there are numerous books written from a variety of perspectives. If I really want to learn about General Patton of course I’ll watch the movie but I will then look for books that would give me much more detail about his life. The movie might be great and in the case of Patton it was but it still only gives me small view of Patton as a whole person. In addition to the books we have people like the Spa Guy , Trey, the Smiths and many others who are giving us details that help create a whole picture. No movie is ever going to provide that type of detail. The other reality I believe it’s more about who Elvis was in relation to his time and where he fits into history. The fact that he shot out TVs and had numerous girlfriends before , during and after his time with Priscilla might be interesting to us hardcore fans but I don’t believe it is really is going to mean much to historians in 100 years. There are plenty sources of information out there now for people who are interested . The true story is out there already in places like here. The reality is people other than us hardcore fans don’t really care if Elvis bought the Lisa Marie in 1971 or 1975. As I have said before I am disappointed in some of the historical inaccuracies but I disagree that the movie it put Elvis in a negative light. I would argue it’s just the opposite. I appreciate the spa guys and Treys but putting “thank you very much “ bumper in feeds into the caricature Elvis as the mumbling overweight rube. That’s something I think the movie did a lot to erase in the consciousness of the people who saw the movie.
@fauxgirl2197
@fauxgirl2197 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that real fans want exact date & times . . Those little things really matters to us . I have been reading and listening to many real interviews from people who knew Elvis personally . Also the channels like spa guy & Trey really touch on Elvis true history & facts which keeps me from getting bored and adds to my already attained knowledge. Seems the more I know the more I wanna know about Elvis . I just finished the 2 volumes of Peter Guralnick . I call it the Elvis Bible. Next Lawrence Geller ‘s book . I wish Spa Guy /Trey could interview him or had he before?
@debracaldwell8195
@debracaldwell8195 Жыл бұрын
I have been jumped on simply for making an observation about PP. I am not interested in being in a group about Elvis that does not speak the facts. You are right, it is like having to pull weeds.
@jimmyrun4eva885
@jimmyrun4eva885 Жыл бұрын
Come on guy's ! It's a piece of entertainment not a historical document. I'm sure there would be a disclaimer in the closing credits stating that " events have been dramatised for entertainment purposes" ! You two Elvis "experts" just come off as smart arses ( yes I'm English) and it seems like nit picking. As a few have stated, it has generated a renewed interest in Elvis and this has on the whole been quite positive. Let's not forget that Elvis Presley was an exceptional human with an extraordinary life. Only a select few were privy to his inner circle and his every day comings and goings. It's 46 years later and if the movie did anything to detract from his legend I could probably understand your concerns, but one thing that I think it conveyed and successfully proved was that Elvis was wrong in thinking that after he was gone, he would be forgotten. He never will be ! If you are looking for something to berate for misrepresenting Elvis, then start with the growing number of "tribute" acts. They really do need to be stopped.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
OK then if it was a not a Story about Elvis why did they bother to put his name on it?? What is the point of a fake story about a real person? The difference is the tribute acts are closer than the movie and people are watching them thinking they are the true enactment of Elvis' story people watch the movie do think that.. You can call us Smart A's but the reality is we value truth and you don't it is that simple.. We didn't need the movie to reprove anything about Elvis.. We know he is still the King and even today part of the landscape of America.. I am going to spell your name with the same care they made the movie with.. 20% correct.. Gemni won4evr are you good with my spelling of your user name? If not you shouldn't be good with this movie..
@jimmyrun4eva885
@jimmyrun4eva885 Жыл бұрын
@@Wcwam You've misinterpreted my comment. I merely stated that the movie was made to be entertaining and not informative. It's "about " Elvis, it's not particularly precise about every aspect of his life. It couldn't possibly cover all that he did and all that he stood for and represented. As for your comments about ETA's, again our opinions differ. You may be entertained by these "artist's", me, I'm not impressed, but it's my opinion. If you're going to spit out your pacifier and kick your toys out of the crib every time someone doesn't agree with you, then that's your hang up ! Anyway , I'm looking forward to your review of " Agent Elvis" that should be good. You do know it's a cartoon,right ? Oh ! and I'm fine with you misspelling my name, it's common for Americans to butcher the English language !
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyrun4eva885 You are good with fiction movies on real people and that is your right.. I think it is stupid misleading and defamatory.. I value truth and you don't, that is your right.. I can review that cartoon now.. It is total crap and I will not watch it just based on the language alone..
@jimmyrun4eva885
@jimmyrun4eva885 Жыл бұрын
@@Wcwam I have no area of expertise in any kind of movies, fiction or otherwise but I do think that the both of you have a lot of insight into the minutia of Elvis life and that's commendable ! But to appear on a public forum and flex your knowledge muscles is a little smug and sad. If you still feel the need to get the true Elvis story in the public domain, then by all means enlighten,entertain and enchant everyone with your OWN movie ! We're on the same side guys I'm 100 per cent Elvis. It's great that you are so passionate about this but the success of the movie has been phenomenal and despite the inaccuracies it will have attracted more interest in Elvis, and that has to be a positive ! All the best to you both !
@bravo3279
@bravo3279 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the Elvis movie is tho Elvis was influenced and listened to black music he also listened to White singer's Like Dean Martin and country music .
@jeffmitchell9863
@jeffmitchell9863 Жыл бұрын
This movie is the image that Priscilla and EPE/ Wineshanker want to portray. But now there’s bad blood there.
@WillChandlerFLD120
@WillChandlerFLD120 Жыл бұрын
The autobahn house was as important as Graceland to me jmo. Gladys spent a lot of time there. She might have had a cocktail but billy said she loved a cold beer . I'm not a drinker but if I don't drink at least 3 a week I pass kidney stones
@braddarnell2498
@braddarnell2498 Жыл бұрын
I also think that Priscilla had way to much influence on how this movie was done.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
I agree..
@WillChandlerFLD120
@WillChandlerFLD120 Жыл бұрын
I remember stymie wishing for a watermelon rubbing a magic lamp micky said don't waste a wish on something little. So he said I wish I had a big! Ole watermelon
@jeanettenfreeland1408
@jeanettenfreeland1408 Жыл бұрын
i loved the new Elvis Movie it was Presley family approved
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
I will say this.. The Movie is not even close to factual and that is not up for debate.. So you think it right to give it a pass because people who do not really know the history and stand to make money on the movie approved it?? If they are selling a book a. biography and on the front cover it said the fiction story of Elvis..would you buy that too??
@grantbaensch9726
@grantbaensch9726 Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw the movie I was just overwhelmed and didn’t know what to think. For real Elvis history I know the two guys to go to!!
@WillChandlerFLD120
@WillChandlerFLD120 Жыл бұрын
Jordan the lion walks the liberal woke tight rope better than any Creator I've seen. His friendship with Shelly winters is a perfect example ,of how good he is at what he does. I couldn't do it. I'd be ran out of California on a rail.
@keithp115
@keithp115 Жыл бұрын
This is very cool guys. Love the format. And Baz should have included Elisabeth who was very critical to Elvis and crew in Germany. I’m also disappointed in many untrue facts. Thank you both for bringing the truth to light!
@silviasmith5696
@silviasmith5696 Жыл бұрын
That's the mentality of directors living and filming in California. Also tired when talk shows interview Priscilla and most of her talk is about herself and not really about Elvis.
@debragarner4884
@debragarner4884 Жыл бұрын
Billy and Trey,this is the best enjoyable video, you guys are the best . All of Elvis supporters, should really y appreciate all of the research and stories of Elvis! Thank you so much. The podcast is a success. Continue blessings.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Thank You Debra!!
@gregscott8383
@gregscott8383 Жыл бұрын
Elvis Ed Sullivan performance I think got 60 million I think at that time it was 83% of the total. Beatles got 73 million but by 1964 there was millions more tv sets and massive population increase. Yeah this was missed as Elvis got more of the audience than the beatles. The fab four beatles tribute band the Ed Sullivan cont
@gregscott8383
@gregscott8383 Жыл бұрын
Said before the fab four came out that this next act (the beatles) were the most successful act to appear on his show. But Elvis got more of the audience tuning in and this was in 1956 . Baz failed to say this I the movie this is one of the very few criticism. But Austin was magic as far as capturing the kinetic genius of Elvis so I'm still happy.
@arkansawdave7984
@arkansawdave7984 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Baz should have consulted u 2? But blockbusters dont always SALE tickets on 100 or even 25% truths or FACTS. thanks for ur shares. Hows TN Ted doing SG?
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Ted is doing Great!!
@WillChandlerFLD120
@WillChandlerFLD120 Жыл бұрын
Who's the guy that put elvis on tour? Wasn't expecting merchandise money parker had 2 suitcases full of money said pick one. Said we are partners one is yours the other is for me and elvis.
@stamps77
@stamps77 Жыл бұрын
Of course I would have liked the movie to be more accurate, but they only had 2 and a half hours to work with to go over 30 years worth of events (1947-1977).
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
It takes the same amount of time to tell the real story as it does a fake story..
@fauxgirl2197
@fauxgirl2197 Жыл бұрын
I so love both of your channels. I was 16 yrs old when Elvis died. My parents loved him all their lives . My dad dressed like Elvis in 68 with the neck scarf & sports jacket. lol. Women loved him & men wanted to be him is so true. Being said the movie was a little off . And it was always odd how Cilla went on about how accurate the movie was. It kinda felt forced to me. She was only there a few years . Why did not they include Gfs & Billy smith’s stories. I would have even wanted more of Lawrence Gellar & jerry schilling too . Some more mafia are still alive too . I wonder what LMP really thought of the movie ? Maybe someone can make another movie on the book she was working on. I admit Austin looked terrific the sets were beautiful! I would have stressed more on his family relationship , his gfs , his cousins , his generosity and mafia guys . I know it was a movie about tom parker’s spin & short for time but they could have touched on some of these other KEY characters. I have been reading all the Elvis books and now i see so many mistakes .. or did they make mistakes in movie on purpose? Like the movie scene with Star Trek on marquis on Elvis’s TV . That movie came out decades later. Going to Graceland this year.. where is your tour schedule posted? Thanks for ALL your effort! Great channel .
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Tour Schedule coming out shortly!!
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 7 ай бұрын
Elvis and Priscilla were married 4 years. They were a 'couple' for two years. You want a really good book Beck Yancy the Accounts Receivables/payable clerk at Graceland from 1965- 1976. She lays it out there. Priscilla's two divorce settlements (the REASON Graceland was still in debt when he died - a lein was taken out FOR PRISCILLA), HER charging her entire new penthouse, boyfriends clothes, EVERYTHING then left Elvis. Priscilla has been about fame and money since she was 14. She PLAYED A CHARACTER. Poor EP got played.
@mrsg.9273
@mrsg.9273 Жыл бұрын
If you get on fb and read through some of the comments in some of the Elvis groups. There actually are a TON of new, young Elvis Fan’s. The problem is they think they know it all & argue like the rest of Elvis fans lol. It is so sad to see how Elvis & Priscilla and their Family couldn’t stop the gossip back in the day. Not even now 45 year’s after he passed.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Yep the young ones think what they saw in the movie is true..
@mrsg.9273
@mrsg.9273 Жыл бұрын
@@Wcwam hopefully they start to do some digging. And buy some book’s to educate themselves on Elvis. If they are truly curious. The Movie goes by too fast to capture Elvis’s whole Story, or personality.
@dennisbrayboy4089
@dennisbrayboy4089 Жыл бұрын
Hey u 2 this was awesome thumbs up y’all hit the nail on the head your Lumbee friend here thanks yall
@WillChandlerFLD120
@WillChandlerFLD120 Жыл бұрын
Let's real true elvis historians write our own rough drafts. Am I a historian?? Heck yes I am. I want the truth and nothing but the truth..if you only want true stories you are a historian.. period
@silvo-sings
@silvo-sings Жыл бұрын
At last genuine comments that reflect the very “ real”…” unreal” “ reality @ which I believe.. is starting to become the “ Gospel “ according to EPE… enterprises and other ex associates that shall not be named although have also attached themselves- not to mention shooting “ themselves in their own “ foot” by associating with that “ Agent Elvis”… I’ll leave you guys to comment on that “ atrocity”. Simple thing was as someone who was around as a genuine Elvis fan - age 16 when he died, from the U.K. i absolutely wanted to like the film.. but to me it failed in EVERY sense… apart from some music… and that was the Elvis input! Let’s not mention the ridiculous “ Snow job” on the Tom Parker character and the weirdly/strange Tom Hanks performance.😂 I’m firmly of the belief now that there is an “ Elvis” name only business machine that just wants to create and print their own legend… no truth ultimately at all. They may achieve it as genuine Elvis associates and those that remember him first time around pass away. I take no Pleasure in writing this comment… I’ve expressed it to Alana Nash to on her fb. It’s just incredibly sad..thanks to you Billy and Trey… for providing truth - some really excellent documentaries that also provide genuinely good entertainment and serve well for Elvis himself. Take care “Silvo” ( U.K.)
@deanor.6055
@deanor.6055 Жыл бұрын
The movie was visually stunning and Austin did an excellent job but I considered it fiction. Me being the big Elvis fan in my circles of friends and area I live received tons of questions from non Elvis fans who watched the movie and I made sure to let them know that hardly anything was accurate I really believe it came down to people like Priscilla wanting it to look a certain way and to me that’s very sad.
@sentinel3504
@sentinel3504 Жыл бұрын
How did your friends feel about Elvis after watching the movie? I had the same experience you had with questions. Everyone seemed to understand that there was artistic license used liberally but they genuinely gained a new appreciation for Elvis as a man and as an entertainer. You’re right about Priscilla being portrayed in a very careful way. In recent projects it’s subtle at time times but it is the Priscilla and Jerry affect.
@deanor.6055
@deanor.6055 Жыл бұрын
They all liked it when they first watched it. But again, they knew that I am a huge Elvis fan and that I am quite well versed in everything Elvis and they asked me how true the movie was to the man and I said to be honest very little. I thiywhat draws people in is Austin’s performance and how cool it really does look. I agree with Spa Guy that they did portray him as pretty miserable and his beautiful Mom. Also like you mentioned that Jerry was the only Memphis Mafia member that cared and that he was the go to guy which was far from the truth. To me the things that were cool were the scenes of Graceland inside, it was cool to see the set of his bedroom and what the Rlvis suite probably kind of looked like in Vegas. Plus tbe NBC Special set and Vegas Hilton stage. But I agree that this could have been epic especially with Austin.
@deboisblanc
@deboisblanc Жыл бұрын
I would consider myself an Elvis fanatic and somewhat of an expert. To me, the more you know about Elvis works two ways regarding the movie. There are those who can’t get outside the box if the movie is not 100% “factual”. And others like me could process what the movie was doing in compressing time, places and events. Didn’t bother me at all. The attention to detail was incredible. The sets were on a grand scale. I have seen the movie 10-15 times and still notice little things now and then. I enjoyed it as a movie. My 3 granddaughters are crazy about Elvis now. No need for them to have to worry about every little detail about where or when a song was performed. The main thing is they now know his music and more about his life in general. Great job guys!!!
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
If it was 50% factual I would give it pass but it is 20%.. So no pass from us.. It w as a complete disaster and bad for Elvis' legacy.. Just like photoshopped pictures are bad for history fake movies are too..
@deboisblanc
@deboisblanc Жыл бұрын
@@Wcwam I guess that's why the soundtrack went to #1 and it's nominated for 8 Oscars. It's a movie, not a documentary.
@glennstocker4776
@glennstocker4776 Жыл бұрын
Finally great to hear my opinion of the movie was mis leading and false
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
What?
@Elizabeth-qc4co
@Elizabeth-qc4co Жыл бұрын
I'm also a fan!!
@mimi-sz9kb
@mimi-sz9kb Жыл бұрын
Agree with you completely Keep up the good work you 2 do Mimi x
@lifeintune7851
@lifeintune7851 Жыл бұрын
You can't get a life like that out in 2 1/2 hours. I was not a fan before the movie and did not follow channels such as yours but now I am a fanatic of E. Prior to the movie, my only idea of Elvis was to get married by him in Vegas! I've done a deep dive and found the good, the bad and the ugly. The movie is about the relationship between E and the Colonel. That's it. Those that watch the movie for entertainment will find that, but those of us who wish to know more will go down the rabbit hole.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
So what about the movie go you interested enough to start digging?
@silvo-sings
@silvo-sings Жыл бұрын
Yes - it’s great that you enjoy Elvis as a result from seeing that highly fictionalised account- I believe that it is EP Enterprises to create a legend that does just that. It’s very important to Elvis and especially those who closely committed their lives - and on occasion saved his - in a literal physical sense too - also.. like Linda did ! Ginger Alden who Elvis did get engaged to .. none get a mention. So, I’m very pleased that you have become appreciative of Elvis as an artist. I suggest perhaps looking at “ This is Elvis” from 81 this is a very good account in my opinion. Thanks Billy and Trey again for keeping the “ human “ being that was Elvis alive..and those who shared and committed their own lives to him also.. because that’s TRUE.. history. 🎶👍👍 “ Silvo”
@saltrisha1
@saltrisha1 Жыл бұрын
Me and my wife actually got in an argument over it,ive been a fan since i was 10,she only got interested after elvis and me came out,and we know how factual that is.
@germanfreighttrain3911
@germanfreighttrain3911 Жыл бұрын
Good job 👏 👍
@cut1986
@cut1986 Жыл бұрын
Lansky's was on Beale. Elvis definitely was there prior to stardom. not sure about the night life at that point.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
I agree but Lanky's though on Beale was not on that part of Beale.. less than a block from Main Street.. Whites could have gone maybe one more block but could not past that.. Elvis was shopping at credit clothing places right at main and Beale on both sides of Beale on Main St.. I can place him at Federal Credit Clothing in the interview I did with Louise Smith who worked there and told that Elvis and Gene Smith came in there to buy clothes.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKLdZZ5_gLOWe9U
@barbararobbins5309
@barbararobbins5309 Жыл бұрын
What upsets me more than anything about this movie is that they had a premier in Memphis, and Billy and Jo Smith, Linda Thompson. Ginger Alden, and other family members were not even invited to the premier. Billy said "I guess they thought we were too hillbilly." They weren't too hillbilly to spend the last night of Elvis' life with him; these people should have been invited.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Billy Burned his bridges in the early 80's that is why I believe they were not invited.. He has done the same with me too.. Some Hillbilly's don't know how to act..
@terri5757
@terri5757 Жыл бұрын
Mae Axton is Hoyt Axton’s Mother. I didn’t need to Google it. 😂😁
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Ok what is Hoyt's brothers name without googling??
@terri5757
@terri5757 Жыл бұрын
@@Wcwam I have no idea who Hoyt’s brother is or if he even has one. I admit that. But I just knew right away who The Spa Guy was talking about when he was talking about Mae and Hoyt. I was familiar with them. 😁
@sandramillett8267
@sandramillett8267 Жыл бұрын
I have not seen the movie not sure if I want to watch it.
@debracaldwell8195
@debracaldwell8195 Жыл бұрын
Watch it. You will then see how bad it is. It is free on one of the channels.
@sentinel3504
@sentinel3504 Жыл бұрын
I agree watch it. But don’t watch it expecting it to be a documentary giving you exact details of the life of Elvis. View it for what it and for what any great movie is , a piece of art to experience. The movie is not about what street he lived on in 1953 or who he was dating in 1974. There are plenty of books and videos on here that can give you that information. The story of Elvis is ultimately a tragedy and this movie I believe does an excellent job of telling that story. Sure it takes liberties with time lines and facts but as I said before it’s art not a documentary. Watch and allow yourself to enjoy it for what it is.
@danielh1830
@danielh1830 Жыл бұрын
I am curious as to why you guys think about Lisa Marie being very supportive of the movie.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
I can't speak for Trey but my thoughts are she is 15% of a giant very powerful company that really needs this movie to work to make them money.. She had no choice but to support the film.. Trey and I have both been pressured to support the movie too and we are nobody.. If you start looking around at who knows the history but are still supporting the movie I'll just say follow the money..
@danielh1830
@danielh1830 Жыл бұрын
@Wishing Cotton was a Monkey Spa Guy & Trey Podcast appreciate your response, thank you.
@robertmorra8603
@robertmorra8603 Жыл бұрын
Also Priscilla and Jerry Schilling both endorsed this Baz 2022 movie as the final word on Elvis Presley.
@008overrated
@008overrated Жыл бұрын
We should just be unhappy with the angle Baz took with the movie, ‘through the eyes of Tom Parker’ …that is vastly why we Elvis fans are not overly happy. If the movie was an Elvis biography it would be a quite different movie…
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Nice try.. If the story was about from the eyes of the Colonel and was accurate I could go along with you but the Colonel stuff is not true either.. It was a complete fabrication.. It the Colonel had family still alive they could sue for defamation and win..
@jordyn2948
@jordyn2948 7 ай бұрын
Have you guys seen Priscilla movie come out in 2023
@Wcwam
@Wcwam 7 ай бұрын
Yes we both saw it.. Way better than the Elvis Movie!
@patricksavage1405
@patricksavage1405 6 ай бұрын
@@Wcwam this is interesting, I heard Elvisistheman say don’t watch this movie. I’m glad you said we should watch it. Besides the Baz movie what is the best Elvis movie to watch? the most true accurate movie I should watch. I am a huge fan of you and Trey good work and great videos guys. And on that elvisistheman what do you think of him? I saw your video of the agent Elvis and I totally agree with y’all! But I did laugh at scatter the monkey doing cocaine and all that rubbish I mean what scatters did in real life was look up woman’s skirts but I can also see him possibly doing drugs if he had the chance! Anyway, love you guys and what you do for the Elvis community and family God bless both of you. I should say I am 24 from New Zealand and I am a huge Elvis fan! And this is my opinion, I liked the Elvis movie so much I saw it three times! Not one after the other but spread out over the week! I also have the movie poster as well in my room. If you guys read this comment I thank you so very much! Hope this comment makes sense, God bless y’all.
@everett8811
@everett8811 Жыл бұрын
I think the movie was decent in the sense that I do think alot of people watched it and associate Elvis with someone cool (Austin Butler) as opposed to every other portrayal that makes him look like a Halloween costume. My only real complaint is that watching it with people I can't say "That's why Elvis is so cool this really happened" because they can Google and see it didn't really happen. And Elvis story doesn't need any gimmicks. His life was incredible and if the movie was credible it would have had a bigger impact.
@maggieshome
@maggieshome Жыл бұрын
Elvis lived a life of 7 men hard to fit that in to a 3 hour film should of been a series of films. I think Baz had the right actor an done his research with Sam Bell the first hour is exciting an draws younger audience in.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
The statistics do not show that as accurate.. In fact I look at the stats on my KZbin channel which is Elvis history and in the 13-34 age range I am actually down in watchers .1% after this miracle movie compared to before the movie.. It did zero to bring in a younger audience..
@maggieshome
@maggieshome Жыл бұрын
@@Wcwam my son is 18 loves Elvis he discovered him during pandemic lockdown he knows Elvis history he likes the film knows time lines are wrong. My son does not watch KZbin.
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 7 ай бұрын
​@@maggieshome well buy him some books written by people who loved him, lived with him, worked for him, were touched by him. Elvis quite literally comes closer to any real life super hero then anyone in the last century. When I tell people 10 things Elvis did that never get talked about Blows them away. He is TEXT BOOK American dream. What he offers kids in Hope and Success with hard work. He had no road map, no real education, no smart or successful people advising him. He was being promoted by an Ex Carnie for heavens sake. Buy you son June Juanico's book, buy him Elvis: Reflections of a Great Humanitarian by Cindy Haren't and Mike Freeman.
@HisLostAngel
@HisLostAngel Жыл бұрын
I saw the movie several times and I enjoyed it, but... So much didn't make sense especially chronologically. What I knew and learned over the years wasn't coinciding with the movie. It was a "pretty" production, but so many details left me questioning what I thought I actually "knew." Thus it started me on a long journey of learning everything I possibly could about many instances and scenes in the movie. And then I found you guys! Major bonus there! My journey has been interesting and enlightening to say the least. Yes, I'm an Elvis fan yet had never found myself that deep into his true life. I am now. The one thing that makes my heart happy is that Lisa Marie felt so much joy in and love for the film. Her deep connection with Austin was wonderful as well. I can only imagine what this talented young man could've done with a real biopic... I'll continue my journey and I thank you both for being here with me! Keep up the awesome work and God bless you for it.
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 7 ай бұрын
Also check out Elvis: Reflections of a Great Humanitarian by Cindy Haren't and Mike Freeman.
@debracaldwell8230
@debracaldwell8230 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how many times I used to have people ask me when they learned I was a fan. Which one do you like, the young Elvis or the Fat Elvis. I had to tell them, THERE IS ONLY ONE ELVIS. One, not Austin or Baz or Priscilla. I will not have a Bobble head or Pez head or any atrocity. I Love E L V I S! Thank you guys!
@roymarksberry4152
@roymarksberry4152 Жыл бұрын
They did not mention all the girls in the money and the cars at. The reason people do what they do to make money for the money and the cards and the girls.
@rhondadobransky4905
@rhondadobransky4905 Жыл бұрын
I had to force myself to finish watching that movie . Any true Elvis fan would be disgusted . It would not have been that hard to be more accurate in this movie . Only good thing was Austin’s portrayal of Elvis .
@boforsyth3172
@boforsyth3172 Жыл бұрын
Watched your video today and was delighted to listen to someone else more anxious to hear the truth and talk about it, especially concerning EP, than to simply carry on with those afraid to disagree with the majority I’ve spent years and years researching and studying this man that took us all by storm,gave us so much joy and pleasure in his I music and talent, made us feel so alive and important, taught us how to fight for what we believed in and truly let us know it was ok to believe in God and country. He was definitely talented,truly a gift from God but most of all I recognized him as being real. He knew his God-given talent meant it had to be shared, he never lost sight of that meant, he never forgot everyone that sacrificed for him, he never stopped sharing his fame and fortune but most of all he never compromised himself. He remained loyal to his God, his family, his friends, his daughter and his fans. His body failed him but his fabulous voice and talent remained and I,for one, give thanks to his God and mine, that his last performance was true evidence of that
@lynnelovett8999
@lynnelovett8999 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@marshiamckeehan2682
@marshiamckeehan2682 Жыл бұрын
There is so much in the movie that is wrong. Thanks to Billie and Tray for the right things. ❤️❤️❤️
@kincaide67
@kincaide67 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you both. The problem is with the whole idea of the biopic. These films are made to bring the subject matter out as larger than life and, in doing so, they more than often exaggerate the hell out of said subject's life and career. These exaggerations fall in the form of small untruths and right out lies just to get the attention span of a potential fan for a couple hours. When I was young, I'd watch some of the biopics on people I liked....then I went and did the research and learned what was true and what was false. That's why I tend to stay away from biopics and go for the good documentary. Don't get me wrong, some of these films I watched were very well made and quite entertaining...acting superb....a couple I still re-watch today, but what is presented is more fiction than fact. I've stayed away from this Elvis movie for that reason. Most film watchers unfortunately won't go back and do their research on Elvis unless they are a true fan and truly interested in the man's life and career. Just like all the movies that say they're "based on real events." That doesn't really mean anything. When it comes to some of the Elvis biopics, I'd rather watch "Bubba Ho-Tep." At least we know it's contemplative fiction rather than hard truth turned lies. Anyway - all that to say - you can go back to the invention of film and whip around to now - biopics will never change. Some get the story slightly right, but the market and purpose of most of these films is not for the truth.....Sadly. It's all for the buck and holler and trying their best to keep a money-making avenue still traveled. Sorry, Elvis, I don't think you'd have wanted it this way. Anyway, thanx Billy and Trey. I hope you continue your Elvis true history. Until the next entry - Take care, my friends.
@bonehr4377
@bonehr4377 Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for speaking up ! I for one hated the movie . ( I’m from the industry … close to … this topic . ) listen this movie is a sham / money grab / political garbage ! This movie would have E rolling in his grave
@shelbysellers4810
@shelbysellers4810 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I came across your channel and others like it bc of the movie and wanted to learn more. Some of the details I glossed over as artistic liberties, but as I learn the truth thanks to people like you, it is ridiculous how they threw everything together. It's like they try to distract us with the visuals. Keep up the good work. There are those that care about the truth.
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
Thank You for watching Shelby!!
@trishelliott2401
@trishelliott2401 Жыл бұрын
So the movie did cause people to wanna learn more!! Although the movie wasn’t very accurate, it did make people more interested n learning about Elvis. Just bc a person didnt go to a specific channel to learn info don’t mean they didn’t research and learn facts about Elvis. This movie wasn’t a documentary or a biography so naturally it’s not gonna b all facts.
@shelbysellers4810
@shelbysellers4810 Жыл бұрын
@Trish Elliott I think it depends. I think he was referring to a general younger demographic . I can't speak for the younger demographic since I was already a year old when he died. I just kind of always knew of him. In fact I always thought he died in the 80's up until recently as that is how much he was still prevalent after his death. I suppose the younger generation could be seeking out info on other platforms like tik tok. Idk. But I think these movies need to watch how much of the truth they are bending/glossing over.
@regenahregenah6510
@regenahregenah6510 Жыл бұрын
The best loved movie THE SOUND OF MUSIC.Marie was never NUN her name is not register.She was recommed to be Nanny to care n teach the captain Childre..The Marie was stern and there scenes are not exactly.Baz could have done the movie the way you guys mentioned.There was be good reason why he did his way.
@lonniecravens257
@lonniecravens257 Жыл бұрын
The "Elvis" movie sucks. Keep doing what you guys do!
@johnnypocknee2842
@johnnypocknee2842 Жыл бұрын
What i dont understand is why use Parkers story ..And i agree about it is disrepectful
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
That was a cop out or a go to when asked why the movie was not really about Elvis.. In my opinion..
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 Жыл бұрын
44:45 preach 😓
@jennifer_clevergirl
@jennifer_clevergirl Жыл бұрын
Why do you guys think lisa marie liked and endorsed the movie so much? She had to know it had alot of misrepresentations. I liked the visual aspect, just wish it had been alot more accurate for sure. The character of gladys made me cringe. Did gladys really call elvis "boobie"? Lol In the movie that was the 1st time I've ever heard her refer to him that way...
@Wcwam
@Wcwam Жыл бұрын
She was Caught in a Trap.. She was 15% of a large company that needed the movie to do well so she couldn't go against the movie or she would have had big trouble.. Trey and I find ourself in a similar position just by making this podcast.. We will be attacked because we refuse to tow to the line and say it was great even when everyone that does knows real Elvis history knows it was not.. We live in a time when if you don't go along to get along you get attacked or cancelled..
@jennifer_clevergirl
@jennifer_clevergirl Жыл бұрын
Thats too bad. Lisa seemed to be a little bit of a rebel, I think she could have handled herself very well in a situation like that. She seemed like she would be the kind of person regardless of the situation, to stand up for herself. Especially defending her dads honor. She must have really felt the pressure. Also, Did gladys really call elvis boobie? I read she called him satnin.
@debracaldwell8195
@debracaldwell8195 Жыл бұрын
I think Lisa was between a rock and a hard place while grieving at the same time.
@robertmorra8603
@robertmorra8603 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your review. I never bothered to watch this 2022 movie because I saw enough online to interest me.
@dwevors
@dwevors Жыл бұрын
Baz did use Sam Bell!
@marshiamckeehan2682
@marshiamckeehan2682 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for reacting to my comments. You guys are the best.
@JrD1998
@JrD1998 Жыл бұрын
That’s is the problem with Hollywood they keep remaking these movies and changing the history and making it their own way it’s really disgusting how Hollywood is doing this but they should keep the history just the way it is we don’t need changing these storylines Austin Butler isn’t cut out to portray as Elvis Presley in the Elvis movie and besides Elvis Presley doesn’t even sound like that or even talk like that he got in southern America Country voice I didn’t watch the movie I choose not to I know their going to remake of these old classic movies and I’m am not a big fan of remakes.
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