EPISODE 41 | LAWSUITS, RAYMONTE, JT & MORE

[@rebeccaalicia_]

My mom always told me, if you “loan” out money, never expect it back. It’s an unfortunate situation when you’re nice and want to help others.

[@marielove4324]

Only time I’d expect it back is if I was told they’d give it back if not then I already no

[@rondazug9967]

@@marielove4324 I think ^ she meant, even if someone says they will give it back, when you let someone borrow money just assume that you won’t get it back (whether the person said they would or not) b/c anything can happen. It’s kind of like an “expect the worse” situation. So if you don’t get it back then you won’t be as disappointed, and if you do get it back then great. It’s a saying. And along with that saying that goes hand in hand is don’t loan money if you can’t afford to lose.

[@rondazug9967]

Ppl should just be more honest and start saying, “can I borrow some money,, I might not be able to pay it back but I’ll try no promises”😂

[@charnaecannon5932]

@@rondazug9967p

[@SippinTeaaa]

@@rondazug9967 exactly

[@SuperCarlette]

Yea I love you both, but I was taken aback by winters comments. Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say that colorism is a cop out is crazy lol we can’t sit and act like colorism doesn’t affect darker skinned ppl and coming from a platform with two lightskin women who have never walked in a darker woman’s shoes its offensive. We get winter has to always stick up for herself because ppl say she’s not black and that’s wrong of those ppl, but please never forget your privilege because at the end of the day there will be times you will be accepted before any darker skin woman.

[@TerriTV]

2 things i’ve learned is NEVER let people move in with you and NEVER let them borrow money! especially if it’s someone who wouldn’t do it for you

[@Hollyw00d__b]

This is the damn truth! Especially with friends! They think that friendship is their pass to play games.

[@1.ghostqueen.1]

There are of course situations of good people helping other good people. If my friend didn’t allow me into her home last year when I was leaving my emotionally abusive relationship I don’t know what I would’ve done 😢 I pay her rent every month now and am still trying to get on my feet after all the damage he’s done but in my heart and my mind I still feel indebted to my friend for those few months. I hope I can make it out of this, come up and bless her with a few thousand dollars for her trouble and a huge thank you for everything she’s done for me. 🩷💜🩵❤️ god bless

[@imeldabealer739]

They lost me with the biracial and colorism opinions they had. I'm biracial with black friends, and I would NEVER be dismissive of their experience. This is what Dr. Wendy was talking about when she said people don't have the range to have a colorism conversation. People would always ask my mom if she was our babysitter because she had biracial children, so I knew exactly what Candice was talking about when she said she was afraid.

[@dkfdajke123]

Exactly! And it sucks bc I really liked this podcast but the ignorant colorism statements are too much for me. As a dark skin woman-I’m VERY disappointed

[@Lexxx74]

My lil cousin jus passed away a week ago and i cant even lie ya’ll podcast has definitely helped keep my mind off losing myself 😞

[@kqueenel5182]

aw rip i’m sorry for your loss ❤️

[@SarahYusra-s7l]

I’m sorry for ur lost 😔

[@DCKG]

Praying for you and your family❤

[@Mecca-Foreva]

I love you sister 💕 it hurts bad at first worse than bad. But you will wake up one day and not feel that sick feeling in your stomach. It gets better. 🫶🏼

[@jademoore6206]

sorry for your lost 🩷

[@Barcelonabby11]

Yall should get the cards laminated so that you can use dry erase markers and re use them that way

[@WinterBlanco]

Omg that’s a great idea! Thank you

[@dkfdajke123]

Love y’all-but those dismissive colorism comments weren’t cool. Raymonte’s shouldn’t have used Cardi as an example to get his point across but he is correct. Colorism is the main reason cardi is still relevant-her barefoot throwing a shoe at Nicki Minaj around millionaires would’ve gotten ANY dark skin woman black balled. I think yall should just speak from a light skin women perspective if you’re not going to educate/research more on the topic. It’s very dismissive to your dark skin audience who battle with colorism DAILY-like Candice and Wendy on real housewives of Potomac. This wasn’t a good take yall.

[@youfainylove]

Yes and the main reason black people don’t claim cardi is because she herself, in the beginning of her career said that she’s not black! So I think it’s weird that they make excuses for her when that statement came out of her own mouth. 🥲

[@jxcl-8401]

@@youfainyloveshe was uneducated back then

[@So-what692]

Idk what you expected from these two. When it comes to talks about colorism they would not be the go to. Most light skin females think being bullied and colorism is the same thing.

[@chezyteddie]

@@So-what692 You’re so right my expectations were too high😂

[@dkfdajke123]

Same, idk why I expected more lmaooo

[@keke5263]

Coloursim is defined as discrimination towards darker tones, I think it’s important to remember that cos it seems like your taking away from their experiences. I think it would be good to get a dark skinned women on the show one that has experienced colourism if you guys are going to talk on the topic, this is a suggest but not to take away from Winters experiences because I honestly feel your experiences of discrimination need to be spoken about more also

[@emmiaaaa]

Okay ladies! If yall gone speak on a trending topic one of y’all has to listen to the whole thing and take a few notes so you actually know the details because y’all be just going off & it be half the story and Chy stay saying I don’t remember exactly. 😂

[@myh2726]

Winter girl I like you but you don’t have the range to discuss colorism and you also have never experienced colorism from the point of view of a darkskin black woman. For you to say it’s a cop out as a biracial woman you need to pump your brakes cause that’s slightly disrespectful and dismissive.

[@dejanasnaturalway]

Like no fr im so close to unsubscribing

[@chezyteddie]

I mean no shade or disrespect when I say this but in my opinion I feel like the battles that Winter fights about her race doesn’t allow her to view the colorism conversation from different angles. Because Colorism is very real and a lot of it goes unnoticed. Cardi B may not have been the best example BUT Cardi gets away with a lot more because she is Lighter skin and more marketable. Keep in mind this is a woman who was still able to have a successful career after acting a plum f*cking fool at a fashion week event around Millionaires. If it would have been any other Darker skin female rapper that would not have seen the same success as her.

[@dejanicole111]

I agree I think she's so jaded she won't look at it from different angles, that's my girl but I don't agree with everything being said

[@aIysssa]

winter’s the only girl ik who’s mad about being light skin it’s crazy

[@GFY94]

@@aIysssaShe annoyed because people assume she's lieing about having a black father due to her skin tone.

[@jaylesereyna3611]

agreed

[@Babykayy12]

@@dejanicole111it sucks bc she seems so smart yet so ignorant on the topic. I wish she would educate herself more. And I hope she realizes those little race battles she be having with idiots on the internet will never compare to what darker skin people/women go through.

[@AntineshaRennia]

I think raymontes point was if him and cardi are the same “brand of ghetto” then why are people stating that his ghetto is stopping him from getting brand deals? but hers isn’t? colorism comes into play because it is more accepted to be “ghetto” when you are lighter, have softer hair, softer features. the same way black women are called angry & violent but when Spanish women do the same things.. it’s seen as spicy and sexy. Colorism is a very deep rooted issue and I think a lot of people try to reduce it down to who people like more and who gets more male attention but is so much deeper than that. We are talking systemic issues.. we are talking being treated differently in work spaces, in different countries, in school, in life all because your skin is darker. I don’t ever see it as a cop out and I hope people continue to discuss it on big platforms.

[@kailenm7841]

Correct!

[@GetmoneyBlanco]

Or is it because cardi has multiple platinum #1 hits and Raymonte is only known for making TikTok’s in supermarkets? Be fr it has nothing to do with colorism or how ghetto each of them are.

[@ChelseyTilley]

Cardi herself said she’s not black before. She’s only black now for some reason.

[@Aye420]

Because she thought Hispanic is a race. Hispanics come in every race. Cardi b is definitely is Afro Latina. Look at older pictures look at her sister Hennessy. They both look like black women. People fail to realize that. Cardi B was ignorant

[@kailenm7841]

Correct, Dominicans are quick to say they aren’t black . So idk what winter man looking self talking about

[@PriincessNV]

I’m so tired of people saying they’re tired of hearing of colorism ofc you are because it doesn’t directly affect you! It’s an issue that directly affects the black community and needs to be talked about MORE not LESS.

[@keylilyoutube]

RIGHT! Colorism being a “cop out” is such a shitty thing to say because she will NEVER face the same colorism as the people that she’s talking about. But as soon as there’s a minor inconvenience she says “they said i’m too light” and “people don’t know i’m black” which is using the “cop out” you were just complaining about. Colorism is Colorism. If someone is telling your their experience with being brown/darkskin and it stopped them from being in spaces (which something that you’ll never face considering you’re are lightskin ) then don’t immediately call their experience invalid ://

[@WinterBlanco]

When ppl are saying she is NOT a black woman it is a cop out. I expressed how I will NOT stop talking about colorism because IT AFFECTS ME. Listening is key

[@bollywoodsinging4002]

Tired go to sleep

[@nikeleclemente8602]

@@keylilyoutube I think the issue for a lot of people is that you can’t invalidate someone of a darker skin tone’s experience but they can invalidate yours if you’re of a lighter skin tone which isn’t fair look at saweetie for example she said it was hard for her growing up mixed cause she felt she didn’t fit in anywhere and people dragged her because apparently mixed kids don’t go through any kind of racial struggle which isn’t true. Or myself I’ve been told multiple times I’m not really black by black people because I have a Hispanic parent (which Hispanics can be black smh) but if I were to say I’m not black then it’s a problem make it make sense. Color definitely should be talked about without invalidating anyone’s experience

[@kaoris3xual]

⁠​⁠@@WinterBlancoit does NOT effect YOU. it ONLY will ever BENEFIT you. your saying listening is key but yet you didn’t even fully dissect what raymonte said or was speaking on before putting your two sense in. you immediately turned the situation into something ignorant and invalidate the people who ACTUALLY face colorism. i love you and chy but your so close minded when it comes to this. raymonte was wrong for bringing up cardi b but you guys disregarded everything he said and meant. also he was being called a hard r and all types of slurs which is why he just fought back racism with racism.

[@EducatednFabulous]

Cardi was the one who said she was not black multiple times in the past, so I was surprised when she said her mom came from a black woman.

[@nicolen3146]

You know everybody black when it’s convenient chile

[@dirtyicontarot]

So winter you think it’s disgusting aioki is dating an older man but you didn’t feel the same way about Draya getting pregnant by a 21 year old ….you were all thumbs up for that. i dont understand, what’s the difference?

[@imaniwave4236]

The fact that a payment plan was offered to homegirl and she STILL didn’t run the money is CRAZY!!!

[@Its_kkryss]

I love yall and appreciate your vulnerability on this podcast. I also wanna say that your experiences as light skinned women are valid, but everytime yall talk about colorism on here you miss the mark. Lightskinned ppl can NOT experience colorism. Just like white ppl can not experience racism. Prejudice and bigotry is a problem but it is not the same thing as colorism. Like I said I love yall, I love this podcast but if you're gonna talk about it atleast know what you’re talking about.

[@jiggyjacci9242]

I love how you broke this down. I definitely think biracial experience conversations and colorism conversations need to be very separate. it comes off extremely insensitive when biracial people are mentioning the discrimination and identity issues they deal with when the topic is colorism. our hard doesn’t even compare to the hard black people experience everyday. it’s only fair to acknowledge that they go through far worse things regarding their skin color and culture as a whole. not acknowledging the privilege that comes with being biracial or having more Eurocentric features is incredibly problematic! also not holding black people accountable when they uphold the divisive agendas that white people created is also very problematic. the longer we’re fighting one another we’re simply taking the bait. i hope they can get a darker person on the pod to really shed light and get a good dialogue going. winter seems very obtuse when it comes to the topic of colorism and i think it’s mainly due to the things the black community have put her through on the internet.

[@kaitlin305]

Adults really have piss poor communication skills. Doing all of this round and round instead of saying “Hey, I genuinely don’t think that I’ll be able to pay you back anytime soon. I’m sorry”. Creating fake numbers in a group chat and a million other fake stories is so pointless-

[@kaitlin305]

Like you really think that it’s safe for you to play with someone’s money in this economy?

[@cat0707]

I mean the payment plan and the other option she was given wasn’t even bad though 😅

[@imani642]

Exactly! It's like wouldn't you rather not go through having to make up these excuses

[@twright93]

Y’all’s colorism conversation sounded idiotic

[@WinterBlanco]

It didn’t. AT ALL

[@jaylenmoran4650]

It did. ACTUALLY

[@marisadennis5326]

it does all the time i’m so tired of ig

[@Smssssssssss]

@@WinterBlancoit did. You’re both extremely ignorant women.

[@JameliaLaChaye]

I don’t know whats different but my girl Chy is GLOWING and im here for it 🥰💋

[@adrieinwonderland3748]

My grandma always told me to never give money expecting it to be returned, no matter what anybody tells you

[@100667609]

“Maybe my grandma isnt this black” *touches couch*…yoooooo lmao Chy killed me

[@krystal2373]

Rule of thumb. Don't loan what you cant afford to lose.

[@danellemarieee]

I am so proud of Wintrr! She handled that money situation with so much compassion and grace 👏🏼👏🏼 you deposited that shit into the universe and you gonna get it back plus some ❤

[@rondazug9967]

Omg at 8:21 Chy’s cute little smile before telling her she looked pretty. I love yall 😭

[@Kyshalise]

As a 22 year old young girl trying to trying to get out of a relationship with a guy that has hurt me so bad. I’m trying to take this advice thank you

[@KatGlo]

What would it take to leave?

[@majesstic1]

Girl leave you are so young.. im talking from experience im only 23 and i was able to relate to you a few months ago. Trust me

[@taaymona]

⁠@@majesstic1 ughh it’s so hard lol I wish it was that easy !!

[@bbyimathug]

Tbh neither of you have the context to comment on colorism especially when yall benefit from it.

[@4kgamg413]

how ?? both of chy paretns are BLACK. lmao.

[@TaylorVernai]

@@4kgamg413you missing what they are meaning.. although both of her parents are black she is still a light skin black women who benefits from colorism due to her being light skin..

[@ninavenomm]

If you’re not a darkskin black woman, you don’t have an opinion on colorism, unfortunately. I love y’all but we gotta let this conversation go because you just can’t relate so any dialogue about it won’t make sense.

[@jaijetz]

So is it okay for a dark person like yourself to abuse lighter complexion people? Y’all equally colorist to us. Make it make sense?

[@gugucastro3796]

I have light skin and most dark skinned women didn’t like me just because my skin was light and hair was different they had no problem in showing the hate I even fought a few bitches for hate of my skin tone 🤷🏻‍♀️ point is we all have to deal with some kind of hatred and messiness over skin tone no matter what color u are!! People just need to learn to love on themselves and parents need to install confidence and self love in their kids so people aren’t angry and jealous over color and hair there’s bigger shit going on in the world !!!

[@eccho1]

I do not agree. I'm lighter skinned and I'm damn sure gonna have an opinion if I want to

[@eccho1]

Colorism and racism works BOTH ways

[@jiovannagarcia1583]

Well of course y’all would think colorism is a “cop-out” because y’all are on the benefiting side of it 🤷🏽‍♀️ you don’t like to be reminded about your privilege so the conversation makes you uncomfortable… And as far as Cardi being “Black”, she said it herself that she’s not. She specifically said that she dates black men because she like people that are from a different culture/background from her.

[@kaitlin305]

How come we don’t get your mother’s weekly reviews anymore Chy? We losing recipes now 😭😂

[@tanzaniacummings9045]

I can’t relate to cardi because as a black woman I’ve never said I’m not black , if we are going to speak On something let’s discuss why they are so many positions to why people feel the way they feel .

[@Makkmaraj]

Calling cardi b black is crazy 😂

[@GFY94]

She has black in her blood don't that make her black?

[@Daydreamerr13]

No one was saying this 10 years ago lol, even irl i don’t see anyone care that much if anything . I mean idk isnt she afro latina ??😅

[@illegallygorguz]

If no one knew who she was and she was a non famous person in the grocery store she’d look like a regular light skin black woman. She doesn’t have ambiguity features at all.

[@GFY94]

Well Cardi mom is African so she does have black in her blood.

[@Juan-fy6fc]

Ur not from nyc she looks like a domincan ​@@illegallygorguz

[@NubiaFaith_]

Cardo B is mixed not black. Just like winter. lol why don’t nobody want to say they mixed no more.😂

[@amiar172]

Um mixed is black, African is the dominant gene. It’s just the truth.

[@crystallynn4794]

“Withered and wrinkly” has me screaming 😭😭

[@Chanelonelove_]

I love you guys but fr fr you guys don’t do your research. Cardi has said multiple times she’s not black. She’s only black when it’s convenient for her. Colorism is a real thing and you guys can’t really fully understand because you both benefit from your skin color. If you guys were darker you would understand what people are talking about. Tbh skin color shouldn’t matter but it does unfortunately

[@soyoujasmyn]

“not the bank of winter” im dead as hell winter fast asf with it lol

[@Itsreallystarr11]

Winter could talk about race all day, Damn girl

[@GFY94]

And this is why I stopped loaning money because I got tired of chasing ppl when I shouldn't have to.. Chances are if they are asking for money they don't have in the first place they won't have it when it comes time to give it back.

[@chellebelle210]

I wish people could speak on things and not have to walk on eggshells out of fear of being canceled or even just their character being put in question.

[@kaitlin305]

Oh this episode is earlyyy. We’re getting spoiled 💕😂

[@troithescholar]

i really REALLY like you both & i have for a long time so this isn’t shade AT ALL. the colorism take is really bad… there’s just something inherently off putting about two mixed women calling the topic of colorism a cop out when you both benefit from colorism. raymonte said in his video that saying he’s not marketable because he’s ghetto is off putting because cardi is ghetto and she gets a million deals. also, cardi is mixed. she’s not black. she doesn’t have a fully black parent. in the beginning of her career she said her and offset were in an interracial relationship.

[@jaye5490]

Bruhhhhhh I loveeeeee the fact that y'all talked about Candice from RHOP!!!!! I 10000% agreed with everything y'all said.

[@its.tahtah]

Winter, I think your opinion is biased because you don't like Raymonte. The overarching point is that it's acceptable to be “ghetto” if your appearance is closer to whiteness whether it's your skin tone or features. Cardi B is able to be accepted & ghetto because of her skintone. Yeah she does have “black features” but her skin tone is more on the white end of the spectrum. I watch RHOP & production is indeed colorist. I agree that colorism is sometimes weaponized & I hate that because it takes away from the importance of the conversation.

[@WinterBlanco]

I do not dislike Raymonte! He dislikes me lol. I only speak the truth. Like it or not.

[@aleamitchell9429]

The women on RHOP and production are definitely colorist.

[@Ashantisworld24]

@@WinterBlancowhat you deem to be the truth

[@_keepingupwithshi]

@@aleamitchell94291000%

[@zoeymoon3522]

people were saying cardi wasn’t black because she out her own mouth she wasn’t… she only saying she black now when it’s convenient for her..

[@__tayyy]

Winter is like "DO YOU WANT ME TO BEAT YOU UP IN FRONT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE AGAIN MAGGIE?!" from My Sweet 16 LMAO!!!

[@jazziealexsia]

The payment plan: “What can you do?” Winter was really sparing this girl

[@daisharabbit211]

Omg! Winter, those were my exacts thoughts when Candace said she didn’t want light skin kids. Totally trying to overcompensate like she didn’t strategically get with a white nan.

[@princessjasmine4723]

Period

[@GraceAndrea]

Suggestion: I would love to see an episode that does talk about race and colorism that features a guest that has has the opposite opinion then winters and is actually intellectual and can hold a debate on the topic respectfully of course. While I respect Winter for having your own opinion and experiences I don’t agree with a lot of what she says and I don’t think Chey (no shade) is able to really hold that conversation.

[@lakeesha_444]

I needed this conversation! I’ve been stuck for years on a guys potential and now I’m moving on and needed the reassurance that it will be better after him!

[@b.yronnn]

I understand winter being so serious about the colorism conversation because ppl drag her daily for not looking black enough like imagine the conversation if she didn't claim it at all

[@marisadennis5326]

because she’s not black…

[@zsmith.12345]

Winter articulates herself so well,both the girls do but I just love how winter also uses the best terms to describe heavy topics. Love this podcast so much 🤍

[@ElizabethLilac23]

“Throw bricks and hide your hand” chyyyy 😂😂😂😂 The phrase is throw ROCKS and hide your hand. I’m cryinggg 😂💀 please don’t mess with chy yall cuz she out here ready to throw bricks lol I love yall so much!! Thank you for your consistency 💜💜 I love Wednesdays because of yall and yall alone!

[@yvngjoint]

It doesn’t really matter it’s the exact same point being made.

[@LoMcg-y3k]

Just got back from a double shift as a server and I’m exhausted and coming to listen to this podcast actually made me excited to clean and get ready for bed and just listen to yall 😂😂😂😂 sending love

[@keyshia6909]

Winter done convinced me to sign up for the patreon, here I come 😂

[@indiamarie2952]

I’m gonna do it too lmao I need more content

[@Pxincessjaxminee]

Same I wish but 15$ a month tho is OD 😭

[@isabellaksulamo]

Winter is so understanding, I don’t understand why ppl be saying she’s mean. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I love watching y’all. So happy how far you’ve grown 💜

[@jamiealderman5128]

Just a little advice… start doing your thumbnails like the typical podcasts do. It will get you so many more clicks. For example.. both your guys heads large in frame with the pictures of who you’re discussing around you. With eye catching words across it. I promise it will help your views get even higher. Love you! ❤

[@victoriaaa4865]

i think they should keep their brand the way they like it. it’s more authentic this way

[@BeaHive333]

My dad always told me to never borrow, specifically money, from people outside of the immediate family. I cant imagine asking for thousands without the security of knowing i can give it back almost immediately. Owing money is not fun!

[@carlyh7036]

Chy, I’m on your side w the skinny jeans😂 I don’t own 1 single pair of them baggy ass auntie jeans. But be nicer to winter & more supportive when she brings up that conversation. Ily 🫶🏼

[@KatGlo]

Those baggy jeans look so musty

[@JazmineLue]

Baggy ass auntie jeans is hilarious! 😂 But no same lol I like mine skinny or flared

[@illegallygorguz]

Lol had to pause at 22:20 because yaaaaas Winter! You hit it right on the nail “Bad Pwssy Management”! Period lmao. BPM!

[@QueenT_98]

I’m glad you spoke on the hoopla surrounding Cardi. The way ppl get online and pretend black people don’t come in all complexions/shades is truly insane.

[@iiiamharmony]

the week before taking forever I be ready for another episode as soon as I get done

[@novaxo9827]

I love to see when winter talking & I can tell chy done zoned out thinking her own thoughts 😂.

[@CarissaBlue619]

I like how you guys made the background more pink so it can standout a little more. It looks good. Maybe even making the words a bit deeper pink will make the title more easily readable. love y'all

[@susuvaldivia]

“Why does this look like abs but it’s 2 rolls?” I’m crying, same

[@nicholascasuccio9525]

Love the pen n paper writing down the 6 things you need in someone for your relationship that winter stated great idea and will definitely use this

[@rellasleeze]

with all do respect i think reymonte brought up cardi because the publishers wrote an article about him asking how’s he’s so popular that everybody’s tuned in to his birthday trip but had no big brands or companies contact him for deals and he responded and said because people see him as “ ghetto” and when your black ( mostly darker skin) and urban companies or people in general don’t take you as serious or what you representing their brands so u have to work harder vs a cardi b or someone who has racical ambiguity can be ratchet and ghetto and companies still see value in them not because their not as “ ghetto” as a urban more afro centric black person. another example is sexy red and ice spice they both basically present as the same but sexy red is darker than ice so ice spice gets more company’s and industry backing her vs a sexy red who’s seen as dirty ghetto ratchet. all though sexy has street support and rappers but she don’t have big company’s like dunkin’ donuts, chia pet, or walmart wanting to reach out and give her opportunities because she’s seen as too “ghetto”

[@Daydreamerr13]

Yeah i’d agree but sexy and cardi are not a good example. Had he used better comparisons i’d agree. i still do on basis alone. however, sexy do way too much and took shit way left with her actions and what she represents. I like her as a woman, i do not like her portrayed image at all. And i love raymonte DOWN but i disagree with how he worded what he was trying to convey. Seen people on tumblr a decade ago make the same point in much better words. Hell, the convo been around 30 years, nothing new under the sun. It’ll probably never change.

[@rellasleeze]

@@Daydreamerr13 yes it’ll probably never change but discussing the issues does bring awareness to the situation and maybe more people pay attention. and why aren’t their good comparisons ? and sexy red and cardi has done some of the same stuff in fact cardi has done worse only thing sexy red has done was made jokes about her having a std, cardi has admitted to drugging and robbing men, being apart of a gang, paying gang members to beat and throw bottles at woman, told fans she hope they catch a!ds she hopes they d!e. they one of the same both urban one is lighter so she gets more opportunities and it’s not as bad or “ threatening “ as someone as sexy. cardi is prevalent in the urban community. why would he bring up someone who isn’t in a urban market or doesn’t desire to appeal to urban people?? gender doesn’t mean you can’t be brought up in a conversation if it applies it applies. and besides cardi is a perfect example she’s done horrible things to people and gets called ghetto and still gets seen as marketable but if someone like sexy or raymonte does half of the stuff cardi done they’re automatically not marketable because their seen as “ too much” another example is chrisean let her be dark skinned people would’ve been cancelled her. yes old conversations but still applies today that’s like saying we’re tired of talking about racism when it’s very much still alive today.

[@prettypetitebae]

Sexy Redd is more popular than Ice Spice so that’s invalid

[@tyliah321]

I think that there needs to be some healing on the COLOR topic. You don’t really owe anybody an explanation on what or who you are. Internationally lighter skin is preferred over dark skin, that’s the whole idea of “colorism”. It is important on how we view ourselves so that what other people say or believe about us doesn’t affect us or how we feel, even though it is hard.

[@SL-lb7ze]

Can y’all just film at home so y’all don’t have to rush each episode. I really be enjoying hearing what y’all have to say only for it to get cut off

[@jessicamartinez9464]

Friendly advice here. Y’all should include the clips of what you’re referring to in your videos. Some people don’t be on social media like that… like me 🙃 plus it’ll make your videos longer which it seems like a lot of people request under your videos.

[@adibe619]

Winter really impressed by you this episode love that you went out your way to help someone despite them doing you wrong may God bless you abundantly ❤️

[@jaye5490]

lmaooo I laughed out loud when Winter talked about her rolls!!!!

[@vivlc71]

Have you guys seen all the seasons of Real Housewives of Potomac? I don’t think you guys have the full picture of what’s going on in the show. Colorism is PREVALENT in the series and it sucks how you guys don’t see it. Love y’all but this was really a bad take. Like Dr. Wendy said, “You got to have the range to talk about colorism.”

[@heyitzsalmaa]

I think you guys should do an episode on growing into a women like yall are older than most of us and it would be insightful. Love yall!

[@Baeway]

Stopped everything as soon as that notification hit🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ja3480]

Literally same, my baby can wait to eat

[@jadavian]

@@ja3480 HELP SKSKS

[@xo.taylor951]

@@ja3480LMAO

[@vmodez]

The power of NO will upset others but it will come with a peace of mind 💫

[@tatumcrosby547]

Finally catching up on your videos and today watching this really hit home bc I was reminded the ways I was there for people and since I’ve lost my job all those people have either left or cause more issues to my life knowing I no longer where I was. But now I’m doing my best thank you for these videos there’s always a deep message in you guys videos ❤❤❤

[@clles6667]

The abs but two rolls is too relatable 😂

[@tullanna2000]

Watching the pod and I’m just cheesing the entire time I love you guys so much

[@Messi-is-the-goat-l1l]

I understand winter because it’s not about the money itself but the fact that she really chose me to play with thinking I was the one she could play with. Now we have a lesson to teach cause what?

[@Missdgaf440]

Winter please tread lightly on the colorism topic. It’s very easy for you to say it’s a “cop out” because you don’t have to experience what darker people do. So please just keep it cute fr

[@bamjohnsonbam14]

Not quite right on the Raymond topic! He basically was saying to essence that even they were using him in that article without giving him any sort of payment or permission from it. They use him all the time without payment or permission, but larger artists, like Cardi B do get paid and sponsored all the time. But because he’s a black man that is ghetto, he is exploited in a different way. It was a lot into it but yeah.

[@arealglittergirl6817]

I think they missed the whole entire point of Raymontes video 😭

[@Queenmebonnie]

They got the point.his point is just dumb..him and bardi on 2 diffrent levels..he can stay mad 😂😂fyi people call bardi ghetto all the time she just don't gaf...go worry about the ghetto lady who married a tier 3 convicted registered sex offender

[@Queenmebonnie]

They got his point it was just dumb af. Fyi they call bardi ghetto all the time she just don't gaf..stay mad😂😂😂😂

[@cat0707]

Why is he putting other people down to make his point? Let alone being disrespectful about it…..weird way to go about it

[@Queenmebonnie]

@cat0707 because he a miserable bird and wishes he was bardi...the fact that he even thinks they are in the same circle is wild on his part 😭

[@ZMRF22]

"I no black, I Dominican" 😂😂 as a Dominican I find this hilarious!!!!

[@memoryrodriguez7816]

the way I switched from IG to KZbin so fast 🏃🏻‍♀️💘💘

[@indiaamya]

I learned very early once I'm still salty about it lmaooo. But the best thing that I learned after was "Never lend out money you cannot afford to lose"

[@aliyahthedoll3411]

she talking abt ima lyk on the 30th "what i can do" as if you're bothering her for something that's NOT YOURS !!! tf

[@senidaaaaaa]

Lmao right it’s giving can I have my phone charger back 😂

[@DCKG]

Patreon just looked like a VH1 show 🤣🤣❤❤

[@bernadine3157]

My dad always told me do not lend money unless you can consider it a gift.

[@sugarmalerv]

I had by far the worst day at work that I’ve ever had. So thank you for your podcast lmao I need to hear other women rant and laugh 😭❤️

[@aby9641]

“Slim chy”!!!! I’m crying 😂

[@kluxe2222]

The worst feeling in the world…. Hounding someone down for your money!

[@teesceeo]

Its crazy cause asking for something back, either money or whatever should never make us feel bad but it does lol.

[@heychannnn]

The colorism “conversation” was cringy. Yall are being dismissive and dense. Do some real research to understand the things you speak of or simply ✨be quiet✨

[@hi88147]

As a brown skin woman I feel like colorism is brought up a lot where it should not. I feel as though Cardi’s personality took her a long way she stayed authentic to herself and didn’t change bc one what ppl said about her. As far as Potomac I feel like Candice can be provoking with her words and hard to agree with and that causes her to be at odds with the other women whom happened to be light skin.

[@K17kejenner]

I wasted 5 years on a guy with a kid. Love the kid but I shouldn’t have been that young being a stepmom for a man.

[@jayl2705]

When is winter gonna realize that she don’t go with us. Im tired of her identity crises I promise if she put down that facade and mingle in the white communities they will welcome her in, shes one of them, but she try to force herself in circles that don’t fit her and it’s sad cuz now she has so much animosity for us cuz we don’t accept her as one of us. We don’t have to accept nobody who’s ancestors enslaved us 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@gugucastro3796]

Dark skinned women loving making comments about colorism like if they’re the only ones that experience some kind of hate…ligh skin women also deals with colorism I can’t tell u how many fights I had because a dark skinned girl didn’t like the way my hair was or didn’t like me celebrating my own flag or culture because of some deep rooted hate they have inside…point is EVERYONE needs to start teaching their daughters and sons to live themselves and have confidence so they don’t feel the need to hate other people for the skin and hair type they have we didn’t choose to be born this way we just were…so dark skinned women aren’t the only ones that deal with hate when it comes to skin tones 😊

[@chrysteldavis6221]

I love how winter dropping full government names up in here not Robin Dixon and Gisele Bryant I love it

[@montanabaldner]

for your advice segment next video, me and my friend have been wanting to start a podcast for a while now we just don’t know where to start. what are some of the first steps we should take and what do we need to look out for ? i hope you see this :) love yall !

[@Virgomoon97]

“I’m not the bank of winter”😹🤣