Episode 6; Auckland Shoreline, Then & Now

[@hippopotamus6765]

I recall the harbour bridge opening day in 1959 as a young child. Wet, drizzle, with dirty muddy roads and a crowd negotiating the walk across the harbour. It was just 2 lanes with a high arching span, quite a scary journey. Living overseas for most of my life I returned recently to a city I hardly remember, it is now so very different. Thanks for the interesting info!

[@koreanature]

My best friend, Great... We liked and enjoyed to the end. Thanks Have a happy day!

[@gd5066]

This is bloody brilliant.

[@deonnaminix4920]

Thanks for the history lesson. I was reminiscing on my time in Auckland and looking for relaxing videos to fall asleep to, but you kept me intrigued the whole time.

[@kiwicodger]

Was having a coffee at a cafe in the sun when I read your comment, I chuckled for 5mn, probably the best back handed compliment any of my episodes have ever got, classic!

[@graemehuia5964]

The amount of planning & engineering that went into reshaping that shoreline is staggering!

[@kiwicodger]

The landscape of downtown Auckland has changed so much that early painting are hard to fathom. Little bits over a long time result in great change.

[@shaneejquigley1996]

Marvellous stuff, thanks so very much! The story about the old bout dance Hall and boat bridge in Milford is intriguing too.

[@kiwicodger]

Cheers Shane, glad you enjoyed it. Someone visiting from 1840 would have trouble getting their bearings

[@leondolphin7565]

Thanks your videos - They are excellent!

[@simmsy]

Thank you! I’ve become a big fan of your channel. Invaluable stories and history.

[@kiwicodger]

Great to have you along for the ride :)

[@HakusW140]

Very informative! Thank you for putting this together.

[@acegikmoii]

Lovely piece of work!

[@richardsingh5827]

Interesting video

[@CaptainKuki]

Thanks 🙏

[@TAKI-UP]

The Stream you refer to is not the original Mataharehare as agreed to by Te kawau The original came out at St Georges Bay, and not Hobson Bay You can see theis in the Maps of 1840 But in later 1841-42 iterations, they shifted the boundary. George Clarke was well aware of this as Te Kawau mentioned he had not sold that land and his nephew Tūhaere petitioned successive Governors with no reward. A classic land acquisition tactic of those times.

[@TAKI-UP]

Tāmaki (Te Rēweti) was not his nephew, but Te Kawau's eldest son, who passed away in or around the time Hobson did.

[@kiwicodger]

Do you have any references I can look up.

[@jimmyboy2]

Nice work. Guessing there was also dreading around the marina area by harbour bridge so that the boats remain floating at low tides.

[@firemanslick]

This was awesome to watch.

[@kiwicodger]

An oldy but a goodie, glad you enjoyed it. Auckland city will look different to you now

[@badenpascoe3976]

Very interesting. Love to meet you one day, I study the early business that started in this area.

[@kiwicodger]

Hi Baden. happy do do a coffee somewhere in the new year, wait for the Christmas/New Year rush to die down. Send me an email [e-mail]. and we can commnuicate to organise things.

[@edwardxiang5500]

Thanks for sharing, very interesting!

[@starflash08]

fantastic thankyou so much

[@jayzzjohnz7732]

Champion video.. I stay around Hobson bay where the old boundary where they sold the land

[@vwxyz0002]

Another interesting and thought provoking article. Keep up the good work.

[@nativerastafarian2383]

awesome videos sir, would you have any history on robert henry wynyard?

[@kiwicodger]

I don't really have anything more than what can be found in a quick Google search which I have just done. Having said that, Wikipedia says that he had 4 sons, but on the Geni geneology site there seems to be a bunch more ....and duagthers... most with Maori first names.... no television you see ...lol!

[@rogerevans7119]

Can I just say that the identification of boundaries of the Auckland Purchase as recorded by Stone is incorrect, apparently based on a newspaper article of April 1926 identifying Mataharehare as being the bottom of Ayr Street. this is a misconception. Mataharehare was the headland pa between St Georges and Taurarua bays. After the purchase, George Clarke bought 5 acres at St Georges bay on the east side of the beach for his residence as Protector of Aborigines, and often referred to his residence as being at mataharehare.. Subsequent purchase of the Waitemata to Manukau Block 1841 was a little vague as to descriptive boundaries, see Turtons Deeds 208, beginning and ending at the Bay of Orakei (Hobson Bay). This led to a dispute over the Taurarua Block (Parnell) which Paora Tuhaere claimed he had never sold. The Claim is detailed in his 1871 petition see NZ parliamentary papers AJHR 1871. The text mentions a map, unfortunately not printed with the petition. However the boundaries were set out on a map drawn by the Govt surveyor Charles Heaphy, a copy of which has survived see Auckland Libraries map 2797. The dispute was eventually resolved by payment for the land, as I understand it. Can I also add that there is a modern misconception that the 1840 deed was in terms of a lease or usage allowance, with some sort of reserved rights. Again incorrect, the deed is specifically in terms of a transfer by sale to the Queen for ever. Clarke had considerable experience with purchasing land from Maori, at the Waimate Mission, and worded the deed in te reo in terms of an outright and permanent sale. Kia tukua kia hokona defines a transfer by sale, ake tonu atu specifying a permanent transfer. Love your series on early NZ history, thorough and informative, excellent presentation.

[@louis2867]

Can you do Devonport?

[@kiwicodger]

Sorry Louis, am presently concentrating on the Musket Wars.

[@pillred5974]

Amazing to think that when you are stood by Victoria park market the tide would once have lapped against your toes, where did all the landfill come from? as it must have been a staggering amount.

[@kiwicodger]

Most of the fill was when point britomart was removed, this was a massive undertaking... all done with explosives and horse and cart. See episode 9)

[@rickpaterson4403]

I understand it was a rubbish dump for a while.

[@peejayw]

Very interesting, are those Google Earth layers publicly available anywhere? Thanks.

[@kiwicodger]

The overlays were created by me from old maps of the city.

[@peejayw]

@@kiwicodger OK, thanks.

[@Kiwistoicist]

@@kiwicodger fantastic job! You should publish this work!

[@hardlydavidson1937]

You should bring up where the Vikings where in nz way back before Maoris and before captain cook. Christopher Columbus discovered nz before captain cook but nz history is full of lies

[@TheSmiley316]

Gee, you musta got left behind - poor sod.

[@julianheta984]

Yeah I agree full of lies but even way back before any of them there were hobbits then I think they had to leave to middle earth

[@everlynevins]

Dinosaurs were first. What's your point?