Episode 94: JASON YOU'RE GONNA GO DOWN FOR THIS

[@poxi2036]

Spunj: They had a good bracket! The bracket for G2 and their world rank: Mouz (1), FaZe (2), Vitality (3). They eliminated world 1-3. You could not get a worse bracket and they still won.

[@billyjoe953]

Dude downplays everything. Its becoming absurd

[@justinlee6610]

His point was if G2 were on the other side of the bracket they would’ve had to play spirit instead of 9z in semis

[@josh.c36]

compared to vitality's major win, this was a fucking statement

[@VelcroEditing]

was a terrible backwards tourny, this wont last for long lmao

[@Chris-sf2lk]

Yeah - Spunj always downplaying everything - he sounds kinda depressed to be honest - the same goes for yanko - CS commentary is quite toxic

[@seamuspower2545]

Jason is crazy with the every player can learn every position take, every player has attributes that have pros and cons for each position and its about finding where you can best use their pros not shoving them somewhere they cant play and waiting for them to get better

[@auxcord0]

You're missing the point. It's not about who in the moment has the best attributes and playstyle to fit into a certain role, it's the fact that given time any player has the capability to adapt and learn to fit a new role if it's required. It's not an optimal solution of course.

[@m8mZ]

@@auxcord0basically exactly right, stewie2k is a good example of this he’s played a bunch of different roles and found success every time.

[@hebisu6686]

@@m8mZ success every time is a bit of an over statement. IGL didn't work out for him.

[@m8mZ]

@@hebisu6686 ture but he’s definitely a good second Strat caller

[@m8mZ]

We got the Boston major sequel before gta6

[@dracvich]

in the 6 min mark rn and theyre right about the way apex told mezii to utilize the crowd that was against them during that post plant 1v1 with nexa was just so crazy to see and it's not even top 15 moments in this entire series, such a fucking masterclass match of counter strike

[@uv6821]

Another banger. Good decision on waiting for a longer pod with flom. Can’t wait for him to be a guest but we needed this short and sweet breakdown/review of Dallas and a look ahead for roster changes

[@xjamiec]

The mezii ace was so good, if that was zywoo or monesy, everyone would be going insane

[@cyb0nics]

Love the G2 win. How crazy is it that mezii can play some of his best matches and Vita still can't close it out.

[@nikolascsgo]

these are the games where you see what players like NiKo have over the likes of Spinx etc. even if their ratings are similar

[@jimbobuz]

That Mezii ace on Anubis was unreal, man was in his bag

[@TonyKalashnikov]

Yeah well Zywoo was only there in map1 the map they lost and then he disappeared

[@m8mZ]

@@jimbobuzIwas rooting for g2 and I still cheered for that one it’s was so clean

[@jR0xas]

Because he's not the only one being inconsistent. Spinx is a known playoffs choker and had 0 impact, flamez needs more experience and zywoo either pops off or ghosts matches. People are blaming apex but I think that's a lazy take. How is he gonna call a game when all of his players are a coin flip.

[@dieeisleiche9511]

Pumping out content like crazy, love it

[@andsoitwas3046]

JASON IS SO RIGHT HERE, TOTALLY AGREE !!!

[@TomahawkDan]

Another great video! (I watched it very quickly)

[@tamasszabo891]

I believe the crowd was massively helping during Inferno.

[@positivitygenerator]

Nobody is coming how good this camera is!

[@debakantasatapathy6299]

The title is absolute on point!

[@danitoou]

fl0m episode plsss

[@cameronburdette8565]

I mean usually these boys are on the road and Fl0m only went to IEM cause he lives in the US. Sadly gonna be hard fro that to happen for a bit, in person at least

[@danitoou]

@@cameronburdette8565 ya i get it, they just entertained the thought of getting him on the cast in cologne and i wanted to show my support for it

[@donniedocket1039]

In terms of the crowd. It reminded me a bit of Philadelphia where the fans are know to be assholes but passionate. Would like EU fans and teams to take that into consideration, you guys come here once a year and we were given one player on stage to root for. So instead of showing that we’re grateful by loving everyone, the fans showed how much they care by showing love to one team/ gstew and the rest got booed and rooted against in good spirit . The NA event can be know for an event that is gonna be tough to win as an away team, which will make it even more cool to win on the road. Think the crowd did exactly what needed to happen. Eu Teams will make it a point next year if you go against an NA rep. on stage gotta be ready for the 6th man.

[@atahannd.9937]

Got my hopes up now with fl0m being on. really hope you do get him on for a long episode.

[@toysgone]

I really enjoy the podcast thank you legends i will thank you all in person if you get a chance to come to boston again❤

[@jianchen7450]

Holy hell this episode is spicy af, maybe you guys should keep drinking while doing the podcast it makes things so much entertaining.

[@tehjamerz]

Degeneracy

[@CjSoils]

Apex delivered two magic rounds on Nuke, just a shame he did not have the best player in the world on his team.

[@xlgapelsin6173]

was nice tho to see apex playing some good cs again

[@MoonIronTR]

people love overreacting to bad maps if others step up and vitality closed out in 2 you wouldnt call m0nesy best itw

[@elizabethmurigi1131]

​@@MoonIronTReveryone knows mONESY is the best AWPer, and now best player in the world. It was between him and Donk but mONESY's sample size puts him in first place now.

[@trennan8291]

​@MoonIronTR Bro that's exactly the point. Fine margins are what make or break a player receiving the title of "greatest". If zywoo had stepped up in that last map and m0nesy hadn't it would be a different conversation.

[@CjSoils]

@@MoonIronTR I have been calling him that for months. Zywoo falls off in finals and didn’t deserve the EPL MVP

[@shhono]

I love Hangry Spunj, provides good podcasting energy

[@BlackBirdMax]

I had so much fun routing for G2. Both teams at the final played great. It was very entertaining. NA really needs there own team to root for.

[@motorepoloh]

Just a reminder to put into the podcast playlist (as it's a podcast) 😉

[@udm1736]

Banger of a podcast. Such great fun

[@charlie-horse]

hell yeah, looking forward to it good job getting the content out boys

[@BW4LL]

Vitality getting twistzz and Naf would be such an insane fit

[@Spetsnazty]

I’m so ready for this pod

[@akar1-]

47:38 "You guys are killing it" the people you mean😭😭

[@beejash]

guys let each other talk holy moly

[@jimbobuz]

Stewie2k on COL would solve world hunger

[@Source121]

Lol how to make a shit team eve worse.

[@henkavalek]

Boa discussão, bons pontos levantados, keep it up !

[@Biblionaut]

fucking hyped for this one.

[@EntrEsprit]

The best teams Stewie can get are something like BOSS or Wildcard, i don't see any team higher in the ranking wanting him

[@Grandpapi_Yugi]

Spunj is pulling his hair out atm lmfao!

[@bashe13]

YNk almost dropping his beer at the end lol

[@colzimo]

People where pissed because there is no open qualifications for eu and americas, Asia will get them

[@GoodFranklin]

isn't the whole idea of the uproar for major open qual that they could get sticker money if they make it through?

[@jasper1772]

Great podcast

[@abigchair]

JASON YOU'RE GOING DOWN

[@trollface9903]

I think col should absolutely gamble on stew returning to form if elige wants him. Without elige, they have nothing. In form stew is at least something.

[@KeilGries]

Banger title 😂😂😂

[@LordBrozart]

I remember at ESL NY in 2019 Device and Astralis got upset that the crowd booed them. They were playing Liquid. It’s nothing personal, it’s sports. The crowd wants to have a favorite and a team to boo. So it’s never anything against the people, we all respect the people behind the players. It’s just fun to cheer and boo in a sports crowd environment.

[@elizabethmurigi1131]

ESL One New York was crazy because it was after that banger quarter final in Berlin where Dupreeh said their goal was to deny Liquid winning the Major. Then Twistzz promised Liquid fans they were gonna win in New York. I remember that dude before the New York rematch who told sado that there's 0% chance liquid loses that game. That rivalry was iconic

[@light7868]

At ESL NY in 2019 Astralis didn't get upset, that they got booed. They got upset that fans were calling out their positions.

[@navox933]

37:59 i love Ynk firing shots at the Hltv guys. They are great with stats but other than that they have ridiculous ideas.

[@cristianonacort1217]

Great show as always, but if Spirit had beat Vitality, everybody would be saying how donk is the goat and how ass zywOo is on stage, but as the contrary happened, spirit doesn't know how to play the map lol...

[@8milestreet]

good episode

[@B0bB0b1nski]

Spunj once again trashing sh1ro for something he's not actually bad at. sh1ro's average FOR HIS OWN LEVEL in playoffs. That's a 1.189 rating with .757 KPR in playoffs with a crowd. Not only well above the average pro, but top 5 for the period he's been playing T1 (four years). Also the game sh1ro cried at the RMR which Spunj brought up, sh1ro had a 1.28. Irresponsible to present that as "another sh1ro choke".

[@ChadBurchillSPUNJ]

How did I trash shiro? Janko said he was trying his best in that series and I made a quip about him not always trying his best which is obvious sarcasm cos every time a player is in the server they try their best.. and Jason mentioned the event with the crying not me. Can you explain your agenda? Or you just waffling like this techmoron hater in the comments

[@xlgapelsin6173]

Well to be fair to Spunj Shiro used to choke A LOT. He would get good ratings sure but would also cost his team rounds on repeat. Nice to see him back tho to playing some good cs

[@B0bB0b1nski]

​@@xlgapelsin6173 True but that was also literally his rookie year and I'd argue none of those games were winnable unless sh1ro went absolutely nuclear. The bar for "not a choker" shouldn't be "able to 1v9". He's just average for his own level on stage (but that level is far higher than almost any other player). Stockholm that MF could have dropped 30 and they were still going to get smashed by NAVI 2-0. Probably the last time (before copenhagen) you could say sh1ro choked was EPL 15 against Faze in the Ro12 where he had a 1.18 in the series but it was just because he stomped map 2 and padded DPR in blowouts on map 1/3. That was over 2 years ago.

[@ithrowstuffinavideogame]

G2: Hooxi to coach, Niko IGL, +Stewie2K

[@manchesterunited35]

Hooxi, hey, listen. The main reason we won in Dallas was your sister getting married, do you have other siblings?

[@caitlinnelsen8932]

My Snapchat is broken and I'm trying to fix my Snapchat

[@josh.c36]

based jason

[@cooperahrens3043]

Why do people think Nexa is good in the clutch. He has a sub 50% 1v1 win rate. Statistically he is below average in the clutch.

[@lukerosacker5370]

12:30 Watch out Janko, the big bad Dona might come after you 😱

[@8roma8]

if u have to justify 2 drinks, maybe there is something more

[@eXartoREAL]

Guys, you all sleeping on hunters performance?😮

[@jonginny9879]

Literal dogwater

[@yuanxv1]

He is the .5 when they were talking about the 2.5 vs 5, he was amazing in inferno, bad at anubis and amazing again in nuke

[@dayne6475]

To be honest I like the change away from open qualifiers but I still really hope that the RMRs stay. I know some people dont like that qualifying is such a big deal but I fucking love it, I love the atmosphere and emotions. Its a given with the biggest tournament of the year, and taking that away for something so anticlimactic as simply getting an invite to the tournament itself off of points takes all of that away. I want to see the very moment someone qualifies for the major, not just read a spreadsheet about it. No open quals for major means that we dont get all these grifter orgs, we dont have all the issues that people wanna pretend they werent constantly crying about, and you have to actually do well over a longer period than 1 week, I enjoy that, but the qualifying process itself in its entirety surely cant just be some algorithm deciding it, right?

[@okx8805]

Great episode. I agree with the point that g2 should replace nexa although they won dallas. An easy and good decision would be to bring jks back

[@boost_jay]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER

[@randyunderwood8634]

Let’s go

[@АртёмТор-к2ю]

Do you have sound?

[@eXartoREAL]

Nope ​@@АртёмТор-к2ю

[@biggzgg]

Yeah guys I wonder what could’ve happened in the past year or so that made Hooxi emo

[@HibijibiCraft]

What happened?

[@Onomynn]

​@@HibijibiCrafthis father passed away. Along with being mugged off by 80% of the community since he joined g2, I think we can understand hooxi having a low energy demeanor

[@jianchen7450]

Vitality should take s1mple because he takes a lot of initiative and has his own thoughts on how to play the game if as you said their problem was players being so quiet and passive not taking initiatives. And even if s1mple is washed already compared to his GOAT form hes still an above average player with a very strong game sense and they got zywoo over there to carry the game.

[@carlosguevara5154]

there must be a budget for the team though... Imagine, they have had apex forever probably making a fortune, then zywoo who is probably the best payed cs2 player atm, then you have mezi which was fnatic carrier, flamez was OG best player... and then spinx.. so much money going on here.. if they get s1mple might not be as profitable

[@jianchen7450]

@@carlosguevara5154 Very true, I forgot about the business part. I was just thinking on how to make the team better.

[@singular9]

HLTV who??? Counter Talking daddy is here.

[@anything3068]

what jason is saying is not for the lgiht hearted people like Spunj and janko

[@josh.c36]

why is spunj being a hater suddenly. Stewie held nuke A site himself a few rounds.

[@TTVShm0l]

Hi

[@kynokyno2563]

my fav gaming content

[@stittu]

This is so angry

[@RosinFlyFishing]

1) Niko has ascended and should be IGL now. 2) Stewie brought the right vibe to G2. This team needs someone with high energy but chill energy who doesn't let the last round affect the next round. 3) Sorry Hooxi, I think you need to go man. You don't bring the vibes and Niko is a better IGL.

[@CapeSkill]

3) what the fuck? You do realize that hooxi was literally helping them behind the scenes to fix their mistakes? Also this is a honeymoon period for niko as igl, they wouldnt have consistent results with him being an igl.

[@RosinFlyFishing]

@@CapeSkill yeah I know that. Even so. Hooxi's attitude is not high energy, high positivity, short memory, good vibes. That alone is enough to remove him in my opinion.

[@jakethomas1279]

@@RosinFlyFishing Look bro i love stew but it doesn't work like that Hooxi is honestly the best avaliable igl thats a international igl only one better they could reasonably get is Kyxsan from Heroic

[@luckstur]

Perfecto🤌

[@63alkash]

Это я удачно зашёл

[@bar0v]

Нифига, кто-то ещё смотрит толкинг каунтер из России

[@eXartoREAL]

😂

[@melbifk]

Its clear Jason is from USA 😂 he is so delulu when talking about NA scene

[@IUHOI]

Seriously, moses can end his career. This is embarrassing,

[@tamasszabo891]

I am one of those guys Spunj. I hate how Ynk all the time talking about other analyst, while glazing his little friends. G2 cant do wrong in his eyes. Just like this episode, delusional. I respect his opinion, but not any take he has about Niko and G2.

[@marrchy2682]

sorry but jnk is a little delusional, when he says there was incredible counter strike being played at dallas. he is just fanboying over g2 and this is clouding his vison. the level of counter strike was absolute dog water.

[@VelcroEditing]

One of the worst tournaments I've ever seen, everything felt so backwards.

[@AndyOG2000]

The games are rigged. Only way to explain everything

[@gazmmm]

We live in a simulation brother when you come to grips with this the world will make more sense

[@josh.c36]

nfl is more rigged

[@vokuhila6913]

+s1mple +stewie -skullz -yekindar

[@simonesalunga4128]

cadian leaving awp role is not gonna happen

[@MusicJunkie37]

@@simonesalunga4128 s1mple said he would rifle