Episode 96: Ranking The 13 Vampire: The Masquerade Clans

[@nonamegiven202]

"Today I woke up and decided to chose violence "- Lore deciding to put out a ranking list on this most subjective and debated topic, probably. ;-)

[@brokencannon9174]

"If your favorite clan is Lasombra you probably like bondage or hentai/ Out of ten" ive never felt so attacked and flattered at the same time

[@An_Ian]

or?

[@dmaple3240]

I mean... he's not wrong about us though is he? ;)

[@brokencannon9174]

@@dmaple3240 Not even slightly lol im just deciding if i should reward him or flay the skin from his bones

[@pinkdelicious655]

Based. I'm gonna be in a sabbat game with a lasombre homie and I'm follower of the set I was like "Can my demeanor be golden cobra and nature nookie?" DM: wat Me: They're both limp bizket songs DM: Degenerate but fitting

[@V1V1D-R0S3]

Same… I felt so called out. >^.^

[@araamahasla555]

Brujah are just really poorly portrayed most of the time. They are philosopher-kings, their thing is upholding and clinging to ideologies, whatever they may be. Considering the "personal horror" genre of the game, It's probably referring to the act of replacing basic human traits with artificial and shallow pretenses so you can hide how dead/repulsive you are inside. The whole leftist angle is just really easy antagonization of ventrue/camarilla for "main" conflict. (That's one of many reasons why Anarch vs Camarilla sucks, Sabbat vs Camarilla was much better.)

[@nobody-cr7to]

“ ventrue arnt number one” * *happy lasombra noises* * “Neither are clan lasombra “ * *angry lasombra noises* * “But you are in the top three!” * *less angry lasombra noises* * “ the top three contains _Potassium Benzoate_ “ * *confused lasombra noises* *

[@MrLuisfrossi]

Clan Lasombra FTW

[@toreadordude9798]

Makes me proud of my Malkavian (who was also my first character) Alcander the Mad Monk of Mount Athos. He was once a Greek Philosopher turned into a Vampire by his mentor/lover Adonis the Wise Spartan. His backstory is stupidly long (being ancient as all hell) going from Philsopher to Seer to Slave to Male prostitute eventually becoming an Eastern Orthodox Monk after converting to Christianity. Going into torpor after he was wounded after the fall of Constantinople. Only to reawaken to modern day when the Moon told him to cross the Ocean to the City of Angels. When meeting the group his introduction was "I... I hear the stars they scream at me to help you"

[@bromora989]

I think an interesting portrayal of clans like Brujah and Gangrel is super difficult. Nines is a very entertaining Brujah to me. He may be a rebel; but he is wise and doesn’t rush to cause bloodshed unnecessarily. He feels like if he was the stereotype, he’s learnt it’s ups and downs and when raging *actually* has use to him, and when to play his cards.

[@TheCourtsOfLove]

"The Best clan is of course...Toreador, None of the other clans except for Ventrue come close to the title, Caine never cursed us because he saw the beauty and innocence in our hearts and our clan antediluvian survived and live in Greece, no clan can compare to our achievements nor our beauty we hold dear...So yes, Toreador is the best clan in everything, thank you, no questions, goodbye." - Random Toreador/Only a Toreador. In all seriousness, my favorite clan will always be Toreador, their hidden darkness and tragicness when you actually look at how they can manifest, especially the rough life they have to live, most of them having Sire troubles to the point where they are neglected or abused depending on what their sire considers "Beautiful" - I love the clan because on the surface they are seen as stereotypical but when you actually dwell into what Toreadors you'll find how "Beautiful" and how obsessed, tragic and evil they can become especially as they get older is really sad. Makes them very versatile. A few examples: Nelli G and Chaz Price, Qadir, and his backstory were really sad. My opinion.

[@dennisvanulzen]

I like how your own opinion reflects the relation of the Clans :p Ofcourse everyone has their favourite but when you said the only Clan that comes close to the Toreador is the Ventrue. While in game they're the likely allies as well ;)

[@Mister-Thirteen]

*If your favorite clan is Lasombra you probably like bondage or hentai/ Out of ten* Says the Nosferatu, yeah I remember the Nosy counter-fashion fade of the early 2000s....I mean you're not wrong but my point still stands. XD

[@leonarddillon256]

If only this was 14 clans, I would LOVE to see Salubri make it on the list. It’s my favorite clan in Not only VTM but all of World Of Darkness. If only Tremere didn’t make them go extinct (or so we were told) the clan would have had more love.

[@gaoth88]

"demon worshipping, soul sucking bastards, the salubri got what they deserved" And other pamflets by your local chantry, if you want to find out more, visit the "Hat&Rabbit" tonight :DDD

[@wafflesingsong6715]

Brujah can be played better if they focused less on anarchistic rage and instead focused on being the “ideologically philosophical or philosophically ideological” vampires like the old Brujah (not the timey whimy ones which may or may not exist.) Nines seems to fit this well.

[@Zandalorscat]

I love playing a Malkavian in my tabletop campaign, but I don't think I would do as well in that role if I'd had to invent my own derangements and decide what the voices in my head say. :P Playing an interesting Malkavian takes a lot of creativity and energy.

[@mikaelwolgast2705]

very hard but amazing when done right.

[@quintencrook6068]

I mean, Clan Ravnos getting up to 5 is good enough for me. My favorite clan getting some respect.

[@bubblygummi]

Ravnos are a sleeper for sure

[@samuel_excels]

I'm playing a Ravnos for the first time and she has a lot of tricks up her sleaves with just the basic chimerstry. A brilliant and interesting clan.

[@rafaellago172]

- Oh, you miserable whelp, how dare you place the CLAN OF KIIIIIIINGS so low? *Locks eyes with you* - You will place clan Ventrue higher on the list next time. *Fails miserably at the dice roll and gets VtM Swansong flashbacks* - Oh for fuck's sake.

[@juliagoodwin9510]

"Fish out of 10". Ah, I see what you did there. Well played, sir.

[@Sardonic_Cynic]

1. I literally LOL'd all through this, so thankyou; 2. Chimerstry is Incredibly powerful with a little creativity; 3. How Dare you put Giovanni put so high?! those bastards (in all definitions of the word) are just the worst!

[@Gimladesh]

The Tzimisce are placed 7th for squandered potential? How painfully accurate that feels to the lore. Maybe in an edition from now, we’ll see them return with some sort of focus on the old ways. If the Sabaat are mostly whisked away, the old clan can finally step out of the shadows a bit more. Kupala's curse influence on the clan is still present in the Tzimisce weakness, perhaps something new could happen with Koldunism as a whole. You would think that the movement of many of them the Anarchs would have received some amount of fanfare. Valdarie is now a tool the anarchs have to free bound ghouls and fledgelings. The anarchs that are most likely to be caught by technology, now can have their faces and identities changed. Mortals can be impersonated and replaced. This feels like an important development.

[@Belnazz]

As a person whose favorite clan is indeed Lasombra I must say that your ranking was right. All of the above.

[@braveherogreenleaf6256]

THE NOSE PINCH ANNOUNCING CLAN VENTRUE Also the sarcastic "out of 10" while never truly assigning a number to anyone.

[@dimiarablackheart8533]

Big talk from a guy who skulks in shadows. ~yours, the low born clans of Brujah and Gangrel.

[@bubblygummi]

Brujah are a high clan

[@Lazy_Swordsman]

@@bubblygummi *Where* a high clan. Now no better than the animals or sewer rats.

[@YokeDatOneBloke]

As someone who loves clan Tzimisce. I 100% agree with that and accept your ruling!

[@TritiumJones]

Woo! Nerdy vampire wizards represent!

[@vikenemma2953]

My favorite character I ever portrayed as a storyteller was a Toreador. She loved to create art of other kindred. She did this by adopting orphan Caitiff and then turning them into whatever she wanted. She then travled around with her circus. She was a blast to play.

[@SankyEON]

Sounds more like a Tzimisce to me

[@toreadordude9798]

Just remember it's not the clan but the player when it comes to VTM. There have been well played Gangrel and I played VTM with a guy who somehow managed to make a Nosferatu boring (I am actually impressed in a weird sense)

[@brianzmek7272]

Nosferatu is best sect >>> Tremere > Lasombra > Giovanni > Malcavian > Gangrel > Setite > Assamite > Toreador > Tzimisce > Ravnos > Ventrue > Brujah

[@matthewstorm4135]

Nice obfuscation that you are not Kindred. Your Prince and/or Primogen must be worried about... breaches. But I do have to disagree with you about the Gangrel.

[@barrymcballs9031]

I keep telling this guy, if the Niktuku don’t pick up his trail by now, the Prince probably will!

[@caioteixeira1541]

Malkav not making top 5 is truly disheartening.

[@anasb.8647]

Numer One: Lasombra Number two: Everything else, really doesn't matter, they all pail in comparison

[@inawe4341]

Clan Nosferatu and Clan Tremere are the best clans imo.

[@Phoenix_Dempsey]

Something something Nosferatu, something something Best clan

[@ethanbest9110]

I have exactly one friend who I have managed to infect with my Vampire the Masquerade obsession, and while he started out liking the idea of the Brujah because of the punk ethos and direct action mindset he really fell out of love with them after realizing both that Vampire is a game where trying to play a "good person" in any clan can create an interesting, punk narrative and Brujah has way too much weird baggage (looking at you archetypes from Clanbook: Brujah). Now he really likes Gangrel because *druid vibes*, but after I showed him your Abyss Mysticism he has been super interested in the Shady Bunch.

[@Stirbreich]

About your problem with the Tzimisce: I recently started my first Campagne as a storyteller. Nothing special, 1450 in Transivania, the Coterie has to bring the MacGuffin from A to B. But point B is the castle of a koldunic Tzimisce. The plan is to put the journey in the limelight and let the players feel the harsh side of the land. For example they will have to make a blood sacrifice to the spirits of the land to get over a mountain pass. And I want to give the Tzimisce a high level in the Transylvanian Kraina and Animalism. The reason being that he wants to knows everything that's going on in his land using animals gouhls and river spirits and so on. Feel free to give me some constructive feedback ^^ And yes, the companion for V5 was....meh :/

[@LoreByNightVtM]

It sounds like something good to work towards for certain!

[@Stirbreich]

@@LoreByNightVtM Thank you ^^

[@Ly_Lord]

You are good looking. - not your mother.

[@devoureroftheworlds4764]

Of course, I can't agree with everything that was said in this video, but heck, the Ravnos made it to the top 5, I'm pleasantly surprised. In general, your opinion was quite understandable and interesting. I will look forward to a similar video about bloodlines.

[@bromora989]

All I’m saying is if Kiasyd aren’t at least top 5 I’m going to rio- *ahem* calmly respect their difference in opinion from me.

[@devoureroftheworlds4764]

@@bromora989 I feel the same way about the Salubri. Let's see how it will actually be.

[@bromora989]

@@devoureroftheworlds4764 how did I not register that the Salubri weren’t in this video… those damn usurpers taking their spot. We shall see indeed

[@junkbucket50]

0:29 The bin men must have come early 1:30 I also think you are a handsome boy Mr LBN. But I have it on good authority that you need to finish all your crusts 12:23 Oh damn.. I have never been so called out in all my life

[@topspin13]

Ministry at number 8? Well okay I can live with that lol 😂

[@HereBeDragonsYT]

Ouch... As a Brujah lover, I'm wounded. Great video tho.

[@Prince_Of_Fish]

Tzmisce at 7th place. Tremere, the usurpers at 2nd. i understand personal bias putting Toreador and Nosferatu higher but that is laughable. especially since you implied that posers were not welcome on the list.

[@captainpuffinpuffinson4769]

Knew the clan of the night will find its way to the top... as it should

[@ryttu3k]

I was prepared to feel grievously wounded about your rating for the Tzimisce but no... no, you do have a point... edgelord/10 is pretty accurate, alas! (And the less said about the Companion, the better. Suffice to say I'm now writing my own homebrew version for V5.)

[@brianlewolfhunt]

The Night Road CYOA book had a prince that was a Gangrel. That was interesting. I am super interested in the lore of this world, so maybe I'll check out some more of this. Thank you.

[@josecoronadonieto6911]

Tremere at n°2 "insane Kevin noises"

[@nyarparablepsis872]

Love the ratings and had to laugh out loud, particularly at the Ventrue and Tzimisce

[@horusrage]

I agree with your point about the Tzimisce even though I don't agree with its ranking. It is one of the reasons why one of my Tzimisce (the much older one) is an excellent guest & host. In fact that was the one I was talking from about inviting your Nosferatu or even Baron Temple as a guest for a discussion (referring back to one of your previous videos). They are endlessly polite & from a certain point of view caring. As I wanted to play against what seemed to be the obvious type. Because if everyone is being a flesh-crafting monster being neither is a good source of fun.

[@AlexBermann]

About the Brujah: I really want to like them. Their problem in my opinion isn't that thet have this whole rebellion thing, it's that it is their identity while it should reasonably be something many young kindred have close to their heart. I do like the Brujah philosopher part with the presence to lead their movement, but their other disciplines speak to the "punch this asshole" approach which is just dull. All too often, Brujah are pretty much depicted as thugs.

[@Whitby_Abbeys_Ghost]

Clan Tzimisce ftw!

[@barrymcballs9031]

>no Salubri I rate this video a 3/10

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Witty. Don't worry, they will be in a list very sooooon 👀

[@mattgunia942]

I thought they were promoted to Clan in v5. (anyway, I always kind of considered Tremere a Salubri bloodline)

[@cjcrashoveride]

Sad that the Malkavians were so far down the list but considering how poorly so many players use them I can't blame you. But the Giovanni being that high up the list is just blasphemy! Regardless good/fun list and always look forward to your uploads.

[@uselessfamiliar]

Preparing to be triggered 😂

[@Zandalorscat]

YES, Clan Nosferatu is the sexiest!

[@chickenusgoddus464]

Haven't finished watching it but i already know no.1 will be clan setite if not i won't be mad just disappointed

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Based

[@rcdt6653]

Everybody knows Lasombra is the best clan.

[@gachalordnoobie4911]

I also don't like the Gangrels too much. One of my least favorite clans probably.

[@MysteriumArcanum]

Second place is perfectly fine for clan Tremere, and given our tumultuous history and duplicitous nature I was expecting far worse. I've always preferred silver anyway.

[@mikeyg831]

The reason the Caitiff are left out is because the choice the obvious is the true clan, the purest of all of Caine's children known as the Panders...

[@szanujzielen8084]

Four is an unlucky number in Japan because it sounds like shi (死 - death) Coincidence?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Hmmm 🤔

[@honkeykong4049]

"Zamitsy" - spelled like someone who wants to be an undying, sentient couch.

[@jackedmondson6185]

the clan Tzimisce would be better imo if the old clan and new clan were set up as a split between discipline with the old clan seeing vicissitude as the practice of soul-eaters and the new clan seeing koldonic sorcery as infernalism in service of a faustian pact with Kupala, with the statements of the old clan as pathetically pathologizing the anarch revolt. V5 really want them to be 'Clan Dracula' was really off-putting and really has made v5 a 'camarilla only' affair for me, particularly after the Sabbat were nixed as playable in the recent sourcebook.

[@LoneWolf-gz9mr]

I find the Brujah and the Torries to be the most.... TIRING to speak to... The Gang? Well they let their beast have a little too much sway, but they are a lot more "real" for me.. Ventrue... Keep confusing money and blood, so maybe they are TOO human.. But they do get things started... I've always perfered the Tremere, the Giovanni, Lasombra or (oddly) the Tzimisce.

[@drgamenstein3032]

While my top 3 is very hard to detirmine, I like Lasombre, and while your assessment of me as a person may be true, hey... Btw my personal top 3 are Ravnos, Lasombre, and Gangrel, depending on what I want to play. I like Ravnos and Gangrel for their urge to avoid cities, and hone certain disciplines to a fine edge over demonstrating a wide variety of powers. I also appreciate that Gangrel have a non-zero chance to be diplomatic with werewolves. It's still a bad chance, but 1% is better than 0%.

[@theredrighthandproductions]

My favorite clans are Tzimisce and Salubri (i know theyre a bloodline technically, but theyre still a clan in my heart) as they let me get weirdly philosophical about the Canite condition, and i like how both of them have the idea of pursuing a higher state of being baked into their core concept, with the Salubri seeking transcendence by embracing humanity, and the Tzimisce by rejecting it. Its a fun dichotomy, and yet both are united by hating the Tremere 😌

[@jaredgillenwater4221]

I must respectfully disagree with your judgement of the Brujah. But you do state that it gets stale from your experience, and that is fair. I would argue that they are probably the most versatile clan in the game. Fitting very well into the Camarilla, as the brutish bodyguards and bouncers, as not all Brujah have the anarchist view that people like to give them. On that note, however, they are seen as the founders of the Anarchs. And finally, the Brujah Antitribu, often viewed as the founding clan of the Sabbat, are the ruthless, chaos loving brutes you describe in your experience. The Cammy and Anarch Brujah do not love chaos. They embrace the natural chaos of the world around them and use that embrace to their advantage. Especially the Anarchs, who use that chaos to fight the perceived tyranny that is often accepted by most Cammy clans, and even encouraged by the more posh clans such as the Toreador and Ventrue. The fact that the Brujah are commonly viewed as the founders of both the primary non-Cammy sects comes from their tendency toward rebellion, as well their typical tactical and strategic skills. I mean, these are the most necessary skills in any army. And I understand you saying you can't relate... You do, frankly, sound like a more proper gentleman, yourself. But in the dark realities of both the real world and the World of Darkness, it is actually the crass brutes that hold true value in the world. Without them, the posh couldn't sit in their pretty ivory towers.

[@MrDarkweaver]

I agree with you that Gangrel can often be played in a very stereoptypical way, but I have played a City Gangrel, who was a corporate raider, who saw himself as the apex predator evolved to suit the new world. He was tremendous fun, especially in a Sabbat game where I was corporate raiding Venture corporations to destablise their wealth in the city. Really good fun to play mainly because of an awesome ST.

[@T3hXinro]

Wait, Clan Giovanni in the list and not Clan Hecata? Whut?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

I know?! It's like they are not a clan but a collection of bloodlines!! 😱😱

[@barrymcballs9031]

@@LoreByNightVtM I disrespectfully disagree with your assertion.

[@mathiasikit]

Great rating and quick analysis of the clans! Like you, in some case, I have a negative biais toward some clans because of the bad interpretation I saw over the years hahah

[@disneytreasures4453]

Number one was not a surprise, but was very pleased to see my personal favorite, Clan Tremere, take the #2 slot! First fell in love with them while playing Bloodlines and all the lore books I've bought and read sense have done nothing to diminish that! 💖

[@161patox]

My top 3 is almost completely opposite to yours Gangrel (I love shapeshifters), Lasombra (agree with you on this one, they are more interesting Ventrue) and Malkavian (they are really interesting to me, the madness network, the weirdness of Dementation, how they range from the most tragic clan to fish-malk, straight up a cool clan with literally infinite possibilities) I dislike the Tremere solely based on their mechanics, I hate how obesenly broken Thaumaturgy is when compared to every other discipline and I'm talking v20 where you had like 40 to choose from.

[@sneedfeedandseed2410]

ah, the duality of man. some people dislike Brujah and gangrel for being simple and one note, some people (like me) like them for that exact reason. nothing like just going apeshit with those two clans.

[@vettethewarlock5448]

The second I read the Lasombra lore and powers, I just had to make one. I made her a member of a family of Hunters, who pissed off the wrong Sabbat Lasombra one too many times and so he turned my character into a Lasombra shovelhead, for them to find her ravenous and bloodstarved. Now she has gained control and is hunted by her family who believe her to be an abomination.

[@Ginge-rn4hy]

According to the several quizs ive done id apparently be either malkavian or tremer

[@samtaylor2671]

Man I loved how Tremere got second! My fav clan personally to the point I have t-shirts...

[@overlordgames1394]

Nosferatu and Malkavian are my favs. About Malkavians i use old dementation in my v5 edition. I like that way.

[@gaggle1485]

Big fan that Ravnos came in 5… I expected worse but was happy you respect their ways

[@Posturtle]

As a long-time listener/watcher of this podcast, I'm not as surprised as most by the relatively high ranking of the Toreador. I was surprised somewhat by the Tremere being almost at the top though.

[@jgr7487]

as someone who loves the Gangrel, I must agree with you that most of the weight is on the shoulders of the PC itself, not the Clan.

[@adamsboringvids]

I do love Gangrel but I take many of your points. I think a major problem with them is a bit like the Ranger class in D&D. They encourage you to be outsiders or edgy loners outside the group living in the park earthmelding before sunrise and only talking to your stray dog famulus. I see no reason they’d need to join a coterie.

[@anierinllyfael9740]

I feel so called out but I am satisfied that our dear Podcast Guy put us in the top three. I don't like leather that much I promise

[@mr.shadowsun5702]

so u fine with hentai i see...

[@JohnnyOrc]

I do approve how high clan Giovanni is on the list!

[@avocadothecat]

So... I like Malkavians not the lolrandom ones tho

[@markeithcornwall]

Listening to this makes me feel like I should read previous editions to truly appreciate certain clans and how to play them. *Adds to the To Do List*

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Check out some of the book reviews I did! Can help you out with some of those purchases 😜

[@Bluntz1289]

Clan Gangrel for life.

[@elliotbishop231]

I can understand your views on the brujah theyve always been a bit of a marmite clan even though I love them, though I cant say I agree with the ventrue one. Entitled to your opinion ofc but I think there is a lot more to them than that. A ventrue done right is like playing the vampire version of a Kingsman, theyve got a lot of depth to them thats missing from their main counterpart clan lasombra. I love both clan lasombra and ventrue theyre easily two of my favorites, but usually if people want to play a lasombra they quite often just want to play a ventrue without having to abide by the rules the ventrue force on themselves such as dignitas and noblesse oblige, both are interesting, but imo lasombra is easier to play than a ventrue.

[@adamsboringvids]

Ventrue probably my second favourite clan. They’re for people who know the manipulation stat is probably the most powerful. You see other characters as chess pieces on the board for you to move. If you have to roll dice yourself at any point your probably doing something wrong. It’s all about building your power and insulating yourself from the consequences of your lackeys (I mean coteries) actions.

[@elliotbishop231]

@@adamsboringvids tbh to some degree that still sounds very lasombra (especially the whole thing of moving your coterie and everyone around like chess pieces that's a very lasombra statement). Ventrue to me is all about leadership of course, but also about doing it right, you have your napoleon ventrue (your lacroix's) who often let their personal ambitions conflict with their leadership, but those ventrue have forgotten what every member of the clan of kings sees, the why in why they put up with brujah trying to make them crack or why they believe in the chain of command and the camarilla, the bigger picture. The ventrue see the big picture like no other clan does, they dont see the individual they see the group, no matter what sect that is, cam, anarch and even sabbat they the big picture and they calculate the best way to get there. They arent bothered if people think theyre wrong or if theyre cold and detached, they are taking very careful steps to advance their goal and do it right while keeping in their clans ways and doing it right, because the clan of kings doesnt settle for less than what they promise, and they are kindred of their word, which is a rare thing, because as much as any kindred can be honest, they are certainly that.

[@adamsboringvids]

@@elliotbishop231I’d argue Ventrue are better at it. Presence and dominate combined with max dots in manipulate is pretty OP. Lasombra are far less subtle about their power moves and don’t have the staying power. Plus Lasombra have no defence against dominate with unswayable mind etc.

[@fylimar]

My least favorite is Toreador, I just can't stand them - and they are the only one, I can't stand. Favorite are Malkavian, Tzimisce, Ravnos and Gangrel. Nosferatu I like too. And it gives me no small pleasure, that you rated them so much above the Torries.

[@last2nkow]

ah, a very different opinion to me, but then im in a 10 year sabbat Chronicle and so ive been spoiled with people being more... free shall we say... with our beasts than the small minded Ivory tower. i must disagree with the Brujah though, since as easy it is to fill a pidgin hole with pidgin you can fit a whole human head in there if you try really hard and have the right tools. bit of the torso too. ill have my ghoul send a parcel.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Every clan has something special to offer. Some are a bit too stereotypical at times, sadly, but that is more up to the players who play it too. Others requires more work and that usually leads to much more well defined paths the vampires/players take. You did sadly not mention the best, the Baa... what why is everybody looking at me. Right then, lets just say every clan can be played very well, if played very well. If done badly, it is badly.

[@hulmhochberg8129]

ofc malkavian, batshit crazy, no clan cohesion at all, still we are alive and kicking and we can do what we want more than any other clan, because do you really wanna be the one risking his sanity over whatever it is?

[@darthjoel6357]

I enjoyed the video LBN. Some of the double digit clans have to played outside the box. I’d like to see you do a video on your own characters you’ve played! 🧛‍♂️ you automatically get 13 bottles of super old vitae!! 🧛‍♂️

[@mikaelwolgast2705]

hard for me to decide if lasombra or nosferatu are the best. malkavian CAN be amazing too.

[@MrWaffles705]

What is the DC on this fury frenzy roll for the Brujah in the comments 🤔

[@Zandalorscat]

I think this also depends on whether you play VtM in a tabletop game or at LARP as well as the group you play with.

[@theShadowBolts20]

so i have my first vtm game in a few weeks with our first meet up being session 0. I already made my character and I am kind of regretting it. I made a gangrel and no one told me there were so many negative stereotypes associated with the clan at the time. I really just wanted a simple and straightforward class.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

What negative stereotypes? We talking Ravnos bad stereotypes ooooor?

[@theShadowBolts20]

@@LoreByNightVtM not culturally insensitive or ableist. Just that they have apparently been the clan of furries recently; and i guess have been disruptive to the group in the past.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Never heard Gangrels attracting those folks before. Curious...

[@theShadowBolts20]

@@LoreByNightVtM well that is nice to hear at least. Hopefully it was just some bad apples in the group before.

[@rafaelmoretti403]

Spoiler: The best clan is the one you have more fun playing.

[@dispelyell4871]

HAHAHAHAH!!!! I was so close Lore XD Us Gangrel are sooooo boring

[@lordmurderkitten6098]

"I resonate with a lot of their stereotypes. A butt ugly naruto who people only come to for information before quickly running off" Everyone asks "What is Lore by Night doing?" Nobody asks "How is Lore by Night doing?"

[@LoreByNightVtM]

It's funny because it's true 😂😭😭

[@avicusdusang1477]

Clan Lasombra is 🖤 Also, you're not wrong.

[@pedroconstant1199]

Lasombra in 3rd?? wait they are the best! :D

[@donoteatcake9718]

In 1:29 you said you are a cis white male, but haven't you said a few days ago that you are bi? I am a bit confused on why it matters anyway, since I assume that to vampires, humans are humans.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Cis in this context means that I assign myself as the gender I was born with, which is male. Some choose to be refer to as male but maybe born as female.

[@brightglory5734]

If you're not first you're last.

[@commandergalendereco339]

CLAN LASOMBRA WE ARE THE NIGHT!

[@mariusmikaelson3940]

Tremere for 1000% no doubts .