Epson EcoTank ET-8550 A3+ black and white fine art prints. Paper options and print settings

Keith Cooper looks at making fine art black and white prints with the Epson ET-8550 EcoTank printer. The printer supports paper sizes up to to 13" width.
Using the Epson ABW black and white print mode Keith shows the differences the 8550 ink set makes for monochrome printing with A3+ (13" x 19") prints on a cotton rag matte art paper and a normal photo paper.
The mixed ink set of the 8550 includes matte black and photo black inks, where the matte black is used at some print settings (VFA) to increase the depth and neutrality of blacks.
The mixed ink set means that more care than usual is required in paper selection for optimal results. There is a guide to using the Black and White printer test images which are available for free download on the Northlight Images web site:
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There is more in the 'Choosing the best paper' article at:
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[@lovedicedtomatoes9653]

Hands down the most informative photography channel on youtube- I really appreciate that you come across as genuine and extremely knowledgeable. So much useful info in this vid.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - that's appreciated!

[@XtianApi]

Certainly for printing. Just found this channel. Loving it

[@kimbradford]

Thank you again for another very informative video. I'm really excited about this printer and anxiously await your next video and review. I'm a big lover of black and white photos and you've shown me that this printer can accomplish what I need. I wish I'd found your videos and site sooner!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - more on the way...

[@causirico]

Great,great,great !!! Finally, after years, i’ve found my printer. Multi-function, ink tanks and reasonable good BW prints. I suppose that with the smaller 8500 i could expect same results. Thanks guy !! Love your videos !!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - as long as it is exactly the same ink set, it should be similar, but I don't actually know that other printer.

[@gilberthuph]

Thanks Keith, another very interesting and informative video. You've made me realise just how important it is to experiment with different papers and settings to get the best results. Great 'fine art' ;) images too!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - the novel ink set works well, but makes this printer noticeably different in its behaviour with different paper coatings

[@ericrobinson8078]

What a guy! Take about quality advice. Im thinking of moving from a Canon Pixma Pro-1 to the Epson 8550 and Keith here has really helped in me making this decision. The main reason for my change is the cost of replacing ink on the Canon, great prints but pretty high running costs. I suppose thats what driving other to make the change.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it's been of help

[@Dr.GeoDave]

Outstanding video. I do appreciate you sharing what you’ve learned about B&W digital printing.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was helpful!

[@marcellusdelemos736]

Thank you so much for being there, you're a teacher, a master!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it helps!

[@Pat-1000]

Indeed he is

[@jimbob119874]

Hi Keith, thank you for your fantastic range of videos on the ET-8550. I was looking at a P906 but I'm terrified of the cost of the ink cartridges. Over the past 15 years, I've upgraded my camera gear but only ever view my photos on screens, which means I've been missing a critical part of photography. I've just purchased the ET-8550 and felt I needed to tell you and say a big thank you. I wasn't able to get the types of paper I want to test so I'll have to look at ordering them online tonight.

[@KeithCooper]

P906? Never heard of this one - is this a region specific model number for something (P900?) The 8550 is an economical way of getting into printing, but if you are new to it, do note my videos/articles about paper choices and using test images. Most are linked from the index page for articles and videos about printing, colour management and photography at: www.northlight-images.co.uk/photography-articles-and-reviews/printing-paper-reviews-articles/ Have fun!

[@jimbob119874]

@@KeithCooper Yes, the P906 appears to be a regional code variation for the P900 in Australia and New Zealand. It is the same printer. I have definitely been going through your videos on paper selection and testing as you are without a doubt the most authoritative source on KZbin with your comprehensive range of videos. It's a very specialised subject matter which prevents me from recommending your videos widely, but I have been discussing your videos with others on a Leica forum. I've watched a few of your videos and re-watched several to the point where my partner recognises your voice. Thanks again for all the valuable advice.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad to hear they are of use. I have to thank someone from Canon for twisting my arm into making videos as well as writing the articles ;-) BTW If you've ever any ideas for topics of interest - just let me know? I'm still new to this video making stuff - my written articles go back to 2003

[@Endureromex]

Thank you for all this information. I have the L8180 but it looks very similar to yours. As an amateur your instructions are much appreciated. Armando.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks!

[@Nodez]

Thanks Keith I have enjoyed your series on the ET-8550, I now have mine on order I think it will be a great Go between office & photography printer instead of having 2 printers... Cheap prints too...

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, of printers I've tested in the last few years, it was the one which most surpassed what I thought it might do

[@cravensean]

You've given me a lot to think about. Thank you -- this will no doubt prove of practical use.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it was of interest!

[@Lexhouben]

Keith, I've watched about 10 videos in a row, and I just wanna say thanks for making these!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks!

[@Lexhouben]

Do you know what ET-8550 compatible ICC Profiles Epson provides for their own Papers? I can't seem to find a list online. Thanks again!@@KeithCooper

[@KeithCooper]

Some get installed when you set up the driver - there is no list though I've quite a collection of ones I created listed in the main written 8550 review I'd normally suggest getting paper from suppliers who supply/make profiles...@@Lexhouben

[@Lexhouben]

I see, thanks for the quick reply!@@KeithCooper

[@rickkeating1665]

Thanks for your awesome videos! My experience with photo and graphics printing has been with the Epson 4880 which I put to rest a few years back and just purchased the 8550. I used to print with Red River Papers. Only matte paper. My 8550 is still in the box and I have been looking at your video on B/W printing. I am retired now from 35 years of architecture and interiors photography and want to focus on selling some fine art prints. Not head strong on big biz but would like to start somewhere and so got the 8550. With the 4880 stylus printer I wasn’t using it as a production printer, but as a once in a while, printer where I would print batches of prints, and in doing so, I would waste a lot of ink because of when the printer wasn’t being used frequently I would have to clean the heads, and I would waste lots of money on buying more cartridges. So anyways budget is important and that’s why I bought the 8550 and it wasn’t sure if the Red River paper would work well or not what are your thoughts?

[@KeithCooper]

Red River is a US supplier, so I've only tried a few of their papers... For the 8550 though, see my main [written] review - far more info than the videos [which are supplements] www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ My written stuff goes back 20 years - the videos just 3 ;-)

[@jimbob119874]

Thanks Keith, this is exactly the video I have been looking for!

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it helped

[@redfox1066]

Many thanks Keith for putting together a very interesting and informative collection of videos. I’ve just changed my Epson R3000 to the ET-8550 which will be a great choice for my needs. The matching paper to the printer video was extremely helpful and I’ll be testing out my existing papers to check on results. I’ll be investing in some new paper samples especially the papers you were using. A new sub added.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - the main written review will be delayed due to website issues, but I hope to have the 'overall' 8550 review before long

[@AlejandroGonzalez-AGS]

Very informative and precise. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was of interest

[@davidtea3850]

Very good video! Thanks for giving so much advices

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was of interest!

[@davidburton2294]

Great stuff Im learning heaps thanks!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it's of help

[@photogol]

Excellent video, thanks!

[@KeithCooper]

Glad you liked it!

[@heinzhagenbucher4714]

First time I'm trying to get into B&W printing. But after watching this, I'm more scared than ever. Not your fault, it's very informative. Thank you

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks- get the B&W test image (and read the article with it?) This is my way of avoiding 'what's wrong with my photo' problems to start with. Get that technical aspect out of the way and you can start thinking about how you want your images to look.

[@heinzhagenbucher4714]

@@KeithCooper Dear Keith. Thank you so much for getting back to me. I still haven't got a printer, and all my few images are to 99.7% digital. Now I've got to do some prints for my first customer, and to be honest, I'm all lost. Perhaps try to get a professional printer to start with. But I'll be watching more of your videos, so I might understand this subject a bit better. Kind regards Heinz

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, if it's for a client, that's not always the best time to learn new skills ;-)

[@desotaku5202]

​@@heinzhagenbucher4714 would love to hear how that first customer worked out

[@heinzhagenbucher4714]

Dear @@desotaku5202 I went to a professional printer, and we went over the images. Some needed extra retouching, and some I had to do all over again, and one or two I didn't print. At the end it was a success, and all worked out fine. I'm a bit more careful now with my edits, and contrasts, but probably still far away from being good. But I'm more keen on prints now, but for me, only in smaller frames. 😊

[@svein-erikfalk5570]

This is excellent. Thank you, sir.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was helpful!

[@martehepburnart]

Very informative. Thank you.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Bassbarbie]

Fascinating how the two fine art papers work so differently. I've got terrible GAS for this printer now that my regular dye printer has died. I have my Pro 1, but it feels wrong to use it for document printing and stupidly expensive. I feel like it would liberate me to print my own pics too.

[@KeithCooper]

It's a nice printer if used with good profiles

[@chris-non-voter]

The B+W prints from my ET 7750 improved after I had the paper I use profiled using an i1 ICC profiler. Reduced the cast to almost zero.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, it can work, but is quite printer and paper dependent. It's something I check out in the reviews. However, I've not seen the 7750.

[@Robertobinetti70]

Thanks

[@jackmckenzie9099]

Great call on the "fine art" thing. I agree.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks

[@davidgraeme-baker2612]

Thank you Keith a very helpful introduction to B&W printing on the ET 8550. I’m awaiting delivery of my new 8550 as I write. I have in the past used Marrutt papers and they also supply a printer profiling service but really interesting to note that basically you don’t seem to use a ‘profile’ for BW but rely of the Epson layout software to control the tones. Perhaps a silly question but here goes - what would happen if you had fed the printer a colour image with any of those settings ?

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - technically it's the ABW mode of the printer driver rather than the EPL software. A colour image would get some form of conversion to B&W - if you use EPL you'll get a preview of it.

[@filetdelumiere5037]

Really interesting videos about this printer. I have carefully seen them all ! I really like the way you explain in details the features of this printer. I plan to buy this Epson 8550. Until now I used to use an old Epson Photo 1400 with 6 ink cartridges. It was also a dye ink printer. How does it compare with the 8550 which has one color less than the 1400 (is quality equivalent or better with the 8550)? Many thanks !

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it was of interest (do check the written review as well, since it's where I tend to include details and any updates/corrections). The number of colours is generally irrelevant at this level - the real difference with the 8550 is the mixed ink set which makes a distinct difference in some uses. The 8550 is a huge improvement over the 1400 in many respects - it still needs icc profiles to get the best from it (as did the 1400)

[@malcbawn]

Great vlog Keith, one question. On the cotton rag where the pigment ink is used with the dye inks, would you think print longevity is increased.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - there's no way of knowing without proper testing, which isn't something I can do.

[@timw1866]

Hi Keith, thanks for the really useful videos and written reviews. I am looking at replacing my now defunct Epson R2400 and like the idea of getting an ink tank type printer ( for cost and eco reasons) such as the Epson 8550 in your videos. The main use is to produce prints for camera club competition and to display around the house and give as gifts. I need A3 and like printing in monochrome which the 2400 did well with its 3 blacks although I never used the Matt black cartridge. I don't really need the scanner or they front trays as I have a laser printer for documents. My questions are whether you know of an ink tank printer with at least 6 inks, without the scanner or the trays or whether there is any news of one on the way from Epson or Canon. Also, how do you think the 8550 would compare with the 2400 for colour and mono printing? Thanks

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - no info on new larger printers I'm afraid. The 8550 is (if you don't use matte papers at all) is just a dye based printer CMYK+grey That means that if you like B&W then you are going to have to work in profiling and testing papers. For colour, it looks good - with profiles... It's capable, but perhaps not so much 'out of' the box' as you likely had with the 2400

[@ericrobinson8078]

Hi Keith.. I downloaded your Northlight Images B@W test sheet, so thanks for making that available, both the colour and the b@w have been extremely useful. I printed the b@w test sheet using Photospeed Platinum Baryta paper setting the media type to 'Velvet Fine Art'. One print using the fotospeed ICC profile and the other using the advanced b@W. Both prints exhibited colour casts. When I repeated this using 'Epson Premium Gloss' using the advanced B@W option the print was spot on as per your test image. I repeated this with some Brilliant Luster paper again set to Epson Premium Gloss and the result was once more spot on. Colour images on this paper also yielded great results. My question is will using 'Velvet Fine Art' media type always produce b@w images that have a colour cast on some papers? If you have an art paper that does produce a cast when VFA is selected under media type can this be rectified by just selecting Epson Premium Gloss as the media type?

[@KeithCooper]

With the VFA setting, the pigment black is used - this can cause issues on some papers with ink adhesion. In general it should only ever be used with matte art papers See the discussion in the main [written] review www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@kevingriggs4249]

Great video, exactly what I wanted to see. 40 years I shot thousands of photos in b&w for my local newspaper. I am now scanning all my negatives and want to print some at home just for portfolios to show around. Does this printer print on lesser quality papers, more reasonably priced paper than art paper? Thanks, I'm going to watch more of your videos now.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks The print quality is dependent on the paper - but you need to experiment... See also the main written review

[@dunnymonster]

Very enlightening Keith. I've only ever printed with dye based inks so needless to say I stick to semi gloss and glossy type papers. Given this printer utilises it's pigment black when printing to Matt/Art type papers I wonder how well does the pigment black integrate alongside the dye inks? I'm assuming that the ideal set up is to have a printer that is entirely dye based or entirely pigment based rather than mixing the two? Also wondering does the ET-8850 switch it's photo black and Matt black through the same ink line ( as per the P600 ) or are they separate independent channels?

[@KeithCooper]

6 inks six print nozzle sets in the head - no switching. Note that the MK (pigment black) is only used in addition to the PK (dye black) on the VFA media setting - if you choose Matte, then it's just the dye - this is noticeable in the graphs from my my more detailed testing, and will be covered in the B&W printing article. The pigment ink is used on plain paper for document printing as well, but for photos, as far as I can see, it is only mixed with the dye black on the one media setting (VFA) Actually it's not a clear cut pigment/dye choice given their gamuts and performance - it all comes down to media coatings.

[@WatsonPhoto24]

I love your videos. Inspiring somehow! What would be the best paper for color and B&W prints? I’m thinking of buying this printer and I’m a beginner. Thanks and keep videos coming. Ciao

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks -There's no such thing as best though... ;-) It depends on the images and how you want them to look See the main [written] review for all my related articles/videos on using the 8550 www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@WatsonPhoto24]

Thank you very much

[@gotflute123]

Thank you for making this video. I just setup my 8550. Good to know that there are some papers that don't make sense trying, at least at first. It might be the language barrier "across the pond", so to speak, but I'm having trouble figuring out which papers you have had success with. Would you mind sharing your list of "starter papers" for a new printer to get started that will allow for exploration without bumping into some of the issues you discuss in the video. Thank you again, and looking forward to more videos.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was of help - I have a more general review as well (the main written review is still unfinished due to ongoing problems with our web site) For paper - pick Epson ones to start with. I'd normally use premium lustre and an art paper (cold/hot press). Maybe a gloss, like premium gloss if you like glossy prints. The main thing is to start with papers that are supported with profiles. Unfortunately even the exact names differ, and many other papers I try simply are not (directly) available in the US. My default 'starter' is usually a lustre paper.

[@KeithCooper]

Also, are there any specific 8550 video topics you can think of? I've already made quite a few videos for the 8550 and can run out of ideas after a while ;-) Do check videos for other printers such as the similar XP-15000 - there are a lot of commonalities between printers, which are often missed if you don't know about printing in general

[@gotflute123]

@@KeithCooper Thanks for the advice! I will check them out and do some test prints. In the states, Red River seems to have ICC profiles for the 8550 already posted, and I have ordered a sample pack.

[@gotflute123]

@@KeithCooper I know how involved making new videos can be, so I don't want to just shoot from the hip with ideas for you. Glad the overall workflow is such that I can watch videos for the XP-15000 which will help with my new adventure into printing. Let me catch up, so to speak, and I will circle back around once I have something more substantial to say!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - feel free to drop me a line at Northlight if you've any questions. I'm working on moving the whole site to a new server, so hope to get the delayed review and articles finished later next week.

[@NGrahamNeville]

Great, thank you. I have recently bought that model and learnt a lot from your video. May I ask as nobody else sees to Know, recently my printer will not print A3 from rear slot and tells me i have the load the rear base feed, any suggestion would be amazing. Thank you

[@KeithCooper]

System? I always suggest re-installing the driver from Epson.sn If Mac make absoutely sure airprint is not selected - be sure to follow the directions carefully.

[@ericrobinson8078]

Hi Keith. Ive been looking at your videos on the ET-8550, again..totally fed up with my current printer Pixma Pro-1 and its gross misuse of in. Hoping to pick up a 8550 in the next few days. On the subject of printing BW what is your opinion of using ICC profiles as opposed to using the ABW mode? Tim over at Photospeed on one of his videos suggests that using ICC profiles give much better results, free of any colour casts, than using ABW mode. Any comments? Once more your videos are just amazing.

[@KeithCooper]

Ah - have a read of the actual main [written] review, where I look at this in more detail www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ It all depends on media choices and the quality of profiles ;-)

[@kurotaka007]

Thanks for taking the time to evaluate B&W for this specific printer. Good tips on paper selection. My question now is: compared to P900 or Canon Pro 300. With limited cartridge color adjustments (8550),is it satisfactory (level of print quality)? If i want to preserve a print for a long time, i will most likely send out to a lab. For frequently changing framed pictures does the printer capture a pleasing rendering? $650 vs $1200 is significant jump. Value vs overkill? ECO cartridges allows me to print more copies to evaluate my photos vs display imaging. Side question: do you utilize filters often? Great eye!

[@KeithCooper]

Personally, my choice for B&W is still pigment, but I'd be happy giving those two prints away ;-) I'll have more technical info in the review. Filters? - hardly ever. One of those pics was with the TS-E17mm and the other with a fisheye, neither of which are amenable to filters. I do sometimes use an ND1000 on the TS-E24mm for longer exposures and blurring people, but not often.

[@kurotaka007]

@@KeithCooper Muchas gracias! Trying to find that point between economy and performance. As I’ve mentioned prior… currently using P600. Haven’t found it a good cost performer. BTW, you’re area has wonderful architecture. I’m trying to do a better job printing what i see in person. That’s why i want to print more.Again, thank you

[@chrisgibbsphoto]

@@kurotaka007 The Canon Pro-300 is proving exceptionally cost effective, zero head clogs/cleaning cycles after a couple of months. By comparison, my old Epson 4900 was an ink hog due to head clogs/cleaning cycles, it did not like air conditioning, nor dusty surfaced (read:fine art) papers. I recently learned from an Epson pro retailer that the Epson heads are rather fussy reference dust particles, and their *type* of cleaning cycles can amplify issues.

[@kurotaka007]

@@chrisgibbsphoto thanks for the heads up! I’m now pissed at Epson for not updating OS software. Print errors prohibiting printing “filter failure “. Hope canon dies a better job?

[@chrisgibbsphoto]

@@kurotaka007 The only issue with the Canon, and I’ve had a replacement directly from Canon is the age old pizza wheel marks on the Baryta surfaced papers. I had this issue with the 4900 too, Epson tech finally suggested “use a different paper” lol, it was their premium paper that showed it worst. To test this, it’s simple, print a sheet of letter/A4 paper at maximum D-Max (perfectly black) and you’ll see the track marks. Not an issue for most who print average grey, but it’d piss-off the likes of Michael Kenna, or Don McCullon who print B&W rather heavy. As an aside, if you shine an LED flashlight/torch across the paper surface I’ll often show up on average B&W prints. I’ve never seen it on matte watercolor papers, so I’ve settled on those.

[@gerardkeenan6653]

Good video. Am i correct that - If you do not want color casts on Black and White prints go for the P700?

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, the B&W is better See my main [written] reviews for each one for sections specifically covering B&W

[@fixitright9709]

Hello Keith and thanks again for all your videos! I have the 8550 just got it and now it's working correctly, I went to download the ICC for the hot press and the cold press papers from Epson but all they have for this printer is for the hot press? From your video I'm understanding correctly you're printing the cold press Epson paper using the velvet fine art ICC profile?and what Epson printer would you recommend at least 13 inch width that can print neutral black-and-white images with no color shifts? And thanks again

[@KeithCooper]

For B&W the P700 isn't bad For 8550 profiles, see my main written review www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@garymbuck1]

Thanks for the video, Keith. I have a question unrelated to this topic, but I'm ready to order either the canon pro-1000 or the Epson P900. Can you recommend one over the other? I do like to print large prints, I'm a real estate photographer but sometimes do portraits and landscapes. I've researched them both and feel the conon may have more clogging issues because I'll only be printing once or twice a week. Right now I can't even order the P900 because of backorders but I can get the pro-1000. I value your opinion.

[@KeithCooper]

The 1000 dates from 2015, so some might assume it's up for replacement - yes but not for a while. I'm minded to say that I don't necessarily concur with your conclusions on clogging ;-) The Canon uses more ink in cleaning, but once or twice a week is not infrequent. The Canon still has the best sheet handling of a desktop printer I've tested.

[@garymbuck1]

@@KeithCooper Thank you, sir!!!

[@skytrooper506]

Keith thanks for these videos! I just received my 8550 and I'm wondering about the Epson Advanced B&W setting. It seems only available under the Velvet Fine Art paper setting, what if I'm using Epson Ultra premium glossy paper? It appears if I choose that paper I lose the option of Advanced B&W setting, can I use Glossy paper under the Velvet Fine art paper setting? Thanks again.

[@KeithCooper]

Ah - read the main [written] review? - lots about this there that didn't make any videos [which are supplements to the main written reviews] www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@vacanni]

Hello Mr.Cooper, thanks a lot for all the videos , I have got a lot of informations useful for me. But now I have a problem with my et8550 when I choosing VFA media type ,no matter what type of paper I use, as long as it is in VFA printing mode, the left edge of the printed photo will be blurred. (This left side refers to the left side when looking at the photo after printing, not the left side of the printer, which corresponds to the right side when printing, close to the ink cartridge. I don't know if I explained it clearly...) Although it is not particularly obvious, it is very obvious compared to the other three edges, especially the dark edges. I analyzed it myself, and it may be related to two reasons: Unidirectional printing: In VFA mode, unidirectional printing is the default. Therefore, when the print head prints from left to right, there is always a deceleration on the right side that is different from bidirectional printing. It may be related to the type of ink. You mentioned that pigment ink will be used in VFA mode. I also found that when printing, if the edge involves a dark black part, there will be no blurring, but other dark parts will still be blurred. I consulted with Epson technical support staff, and they concluded that the reason was that the paper I used was not supported by the printer. They said that the official VFA paper is only A3+, and they will not deal with printing problems with other types of paper. However, I saw that the paper you used in the video was not "Velvet Fine Art Paper", so I want to ask if you have this problem when printing in this mode?

[@vacanni]

If I didnt explain clearly , I could send you the image that shows the blur .

[@KeithCooper]

I've not seen it. Epson's response is a cop out, but one they use often... That's why if you have a faulty printer I always suggest the fault is 'on an epson paper' when you talk to them ;-) This sounds like a faulty printer

[@reymundlenkeit5508]

Best Man :)

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks...

[@vitantoniocaporusso]

Ciao dear, I'm following your videos which I also find very interesting because these days I should get an Epson Eco Tank 8550. In this regard, I think I have seen on the Epson website that the "Epson Print Layout" software is not compatible with this printer. Does it turn out to you too? If so, do you manage your prints with this printer with Photoshop or do you use other software? Thank you

[@KeithCooper]

It works just fine (with some limitations) on my Mac See the 8550 video about colour fine-art prints for an example

[@serenadenphoto]

A very useful instruction about printing B&W. But, why do you have to tell both the printer and the Epson app about paper type?

[@KeithCooper]

Force of habit as much as an essential thing to do ;-) It has saved me wasting a lot of paper over the years - remember, I get to test a lot of papers and printers. It becomes more important, the bigger the prints (and costlier the paper) I'm making.

[@femstarpremium6685]

Do you have a review of the Eason ET 15000 ?

[@KeithCooper]

Nope, not seen one I'm afraid...

[@AnOpticalView]

Keith you very ably describe the slight greenish cast on the bright white art paper due to less than ideal hybrid (dye and pigment) ink. It is clear that this particular paper does not suit here. Two questions. Could a custom profile eliminate that cast. Would similarly described papers (other bright white art smooth for example) from other manufacturers react similarly? Paper not being cheap it would be unfortunate to find such an issue on a new box of A3+ paper! Do the manufacturers have a responsibility or do we need a forum to post such issues to help out each other. Of course double profiling can produce such casts also which I am certain you are not doing but newcomers may. As usual a fabulous video and I thank you. After having severe issues with monitor profiling with three different softwares I look forward to you forthcoming review.

[@KeithCooper]

No, profiling simply won't help. Several things: - I'm using ABW mode, which has nothing to do with profiles - profiles are usually created for colour printing and not optimised for B&W performance. I make profiles with nearly 3000 patches for this testing and they are not usually good for B&W. No commonly available software truly supports B&W optimised icc profiles - lastly, the influence of dyes introduces an element of illuminant metamerism - no amount of profiling can counter this. This is stuff I usually only cover in detail in the written articles - my videos are often just summaries or trailers for the 'real' (written) articles ;-)

[@KeithCooper]

As to forums - the printing forum at DPReview widely discusses this, and I often post more detailed stuff than I'd ever put in videos The key take-away for me for B&W on the 8550 is that you need to experiment, since seemingly similar papers can have massively different results. This printer is the best example yet of - Buy your printer first, THEN select papers ...Which means getting sample packs first, unless you know someone has already got good results with the 8550 Of course there is the slight complication that there are a limited number of paper makers - far fewer than paper brands ;-)

[@h3h3eot]

Hi Keith, on another channel review a few people commented that they were getting lines on their prints. Have you seen that?

[@KeithCooper]

I've been looking for this and not seen it. However, I know of one person that saw faint linear dents/grooves in some paper surfaces and had the printer replaced/fixed by Epson - they sent me some photos of the effect

[@pranavom]

Hey there I saw that you have used the Canon Pixma pro 200 too, can you please tell us just from photo quality alone which one is better!

[@KeithCooper]

Two different uses - the 200 is just a photo printer, but very good... The 8550 is more versatile and a lot cheaper to run The 8550 really benefits from care with media choices and profiles See the main written reviews www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

[@icetea4345]

Thanks for the review! I'm thinking of getting one. Do you know or can you guess how many color prints I can get in A3 before refill and how many in Black and white? Thank you in advance.

[@KeithCooper]

Sorry, I don't have any figures for this. I do such varied printing during the testing that I get no meaningful data to make an estimate. Just - quite a few, compared to small ink carts...

[@icetea4345]

@@KeithCooper Thank you for replying!

[@mathu_stans]

kindly do a review on how bad the Epson L1300 happens to be with photos. its also an A3+

[@KeithCooper]

Sure, send me an L1300 ;-) I'm sure that with good profiling and good paper choice it's capable of reasonable prints.

[@ericrobinson8078]

I know this is a difficult question , but I'll ask anyhow. From your experience which brand of Art papers produce the best consistent results on this particular printer aside from Epson papers which I would hope would produce consistent results. I see not all paper manufacturers have produced ICC profiles for this printer as of Dec 2021.

[@KeithCooper]

The big names are not where I'd go (this is just for the UK - elsewhere YMMV) I use papers from my local Leicester supplier Paper Spectrum, as well as other suppliers such as PermaJet and Fotospeed (both relatively local) For this printer it's worthwhile buying paper from a supplier that will make profiles for you. For my large format printing I've long liked Innova papers - but I make my own high end profiles. Remember that there are relatively few paper makers and coaters, so the 'local brand' may be made by the same people as make paper for Canon or Epson...

[@dreyfusfabrini]

Mr. Cooper! As an enthuasiast, I’m willing to buy a large printer to make my own fineart. However, in Brazil, some printers are very expensive (for an enthusiast). If I get a Canon TM-300 (which I’m aware it’s not a photo printer) and profile it correctly (with the X-Rite Colormunki), will I get a good print?

[@KeithCooper]

Pick the right media, and make a profile, and yes, not many would find fault with it ;-)

[@canal_mr_wolf]

I wonder how does it compare with the ET15000. At least for color photography

[@KeithCooper]

Sorry - not tested that one Have tested the XP-15000

[@Alchimaera]

I've just ordered this printer because I was finding that because of expense, I wasn't using my photo printer. I'm a bit concerned about reducing the colour range tho & also the dye inks. I'm curious as to what you use this printer for as you say you do have a pigment printer? Do you sell images from this printer or just use it for personal use? I'm a hobbyist but have just had my first order & although this time I'm going to go to my local printers, I would like to sell from home eventually. However I just know I won't use a pigment printer everyday because of the cost and I'd like to experiment a lot with different papers etc. Thanks for the great videos, Alice

[@KeithCooper]

Glad the stuff was of interest. With these small printers, I usually borrow them from Canon or Epson UK, since I couldn't afford them all. Well that and I'm not allowed to live in a printer warehouse ;-) I rather liked this one since it can give very pleasing results. The market where I sell prints expects pigment inks, and I do a lot of B&W, so I use a larger printer. For experimenting , the tank type printers are great, just remember the importance of colour management and paper choice. I'd always suggest to perfect your printing on basic papers to start with so you can properly appreciate different papers later

[@Alchimaera]

@@KeithCooper thanks so much for replying. Yes I am using affordable papers for now, not the cheapest ones but not silly prices! I'm looking forward to getting a few sample packs & I also need to learn about profiles. I will be checking out your other videos :) thanks again, Alice

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - do check the written articles as well - I tend to include more details there. That and my 8550 profiles are listed in the review

[@williammessenger9637]

Who knows the Hex Code value for the Claria ET Premium 552 Inks?

[@KeithCooper]

What is the Hex Code value and what use does knowing it serve?

[@shirleydalgetty2654]

Hi Keith, Great videos, I keep coming back to them. I have a problem with Epson Print Layout not finding my printer, Photoshop and everything else finds it ok, is there a fix for that? Thank you

[@KeithCooper]

Mac or PC - Have you accidentally installed the AirPrint driver?

[@shirleydalgetty2654]

@@KeithCooper Mac - and I remember I had this problem when I first bought the printer in October 2021. You helped with then but I can't find the messages we exchanged on You Tube. I've since changed my Mac so I must have the same problem again.I thought it was something to do with Air Print. How do I change the AirPrint Driver please?

[@shirleydalgetty2654]

@@KeithCooper and I can see EPSON ET-8550 Series _AirPrint under Location/Kind but I don't see a way to change that

[@KeithCooper]

re-install the driver and read the main [written] review www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - with the written articles I can refine/correct/edit/update them, but the videos are set in stone (mistakes as well!)

[@kristysketches]

Hello Keith, I am really frustrating over my new Epson-8500 Eco-Tank printer. The Epson support did not help me at all. Maybe you can? I am not happy with the blackness of the coloring pages I tried printing on Clairefontaine 250g Clairalfa paper. The paper claims to be good for bolder blacks, vivid colors and has the ColorLok Technology. Maybe I have used the wrong settings so far, but I just don't know what else to do. My coloring pages don't have a deep black and when I color them, the outlines smear!! This is a no go. I paid 600 EUR for this printer to use it for a small home business, and now it's useless for my needs 😢. Is it my settings or the paper, that cause the ink to smear? Or is this kind of ink not made for coloring pages? I'd be so grateful for any tips.

[@KeithCooper]

Sounds like a paper mismatch - sorry, but most of that description looks like meaningless marketing hokum :-) :-) I've no idea what that particular paper is or even what sort you ideally need for 'colouring pages' [not a term I'm familiar with] - try the VFA setting for example? See the main [written] review for much more detail about papers and ink choices www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ email me at Northlight if you want - these comments boxes are useless for detailed replies ;-)

[@DerSystematiker]

Hi, that printer seems to fit my requirements best. If it had only print to network. I can live with storing them on a flash drive. But what I can't live without is scanning multiple page one after another and get ONE PDF out of it. And I do not want to boot my PC to do that. Can I create a multi page PDF using only the printer and the touchscreen?

[@KeithCooper]

Don't think so - but, that's something you'll need to check the printer manual for. I didn't test any of the the more 'office' type functions very much, since I'd only ever scan from a computer, using scan software.

[@davecarrera]

For predominantly Black and White prints, would it be the Epson ET-8550 or Canon P300 ?

[@KeithCooper]

300 every time - it's the one with _all_ pigment ink. The 8550 only uses the pigment black on the VFA setting and still uses the dyes as well

[@davecarrera]

@@KeithCooper Thank you for the reply Keith and my purchase of the P300 is made. I wish you well sir.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - Do check the PRO-300 B&W article on the Northlight site - it has quite a bit more detail than I'd include in any video

[@mtnjak]

I'm trying to decide on a new printer between the 8550 Supertank and the XP-15000 printer. I don't print in black and white, so the 8550 may not matter to me. My main question that I'm trying to answer is, is the super tank ink going to be cheaper in the long run compared to the cartridges of the 15000? Epson's website says the set of bottles that come with the 8550 could last up to 2 years, based on printing an average of 200 pages per month. As a consumer who prints out a few pages per week in my home office, and occasional couple times a month photo printing, I'm sure I'm well under 200 pages per month. In the long run, would I be better off spending more for the 8550 and saving some money on ink or should I go with the almost half the price 15000 model and spend more on ink?

[@KeithCooper]

Unfortunately I've no ink usage/cost information for either. My testing is to varied to produce any meaningful data for this purpose The best ink cost info I know is at: www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html however, the printers you mention are likely too new to appear for some time yet Just one other thing - read the fine print and testing methodology before making too much of figures like 200/month and 2 years. There is nothing wrong about the data, you just need to understand what it really means (apart from marketing info)

[@mtnjak]

@@KeithCooper Thanks!

[@mtnjak]

I ended up picking up this printer (the white version) and I am amazed at the quality right out of the box. This is my first wide format printer for home and the only printer I've ever owned that I don't have to fuss with the settings in my computer to get a fair print. I am using Epson semi-gloss photo paper and printing from Photoshop using the "perceptual" setting and what I see on screen is exactly what I get in my finished print. I've never owned a printer that could do that. Doing the math on the higher up front costs vs long term ink cartridge replacement and it's actually going to be a little cheaper for me using this printer. Quality and cost savings!

[@KeithCooper]

@@mtnjak That's great to hear, it's an excellent printer

[@paweskowron7999]

Hello Mr. I see in your video that printing takes quite a long time, so I conclude that one-way printing is set. Prints from a PC using Epson Print Layout. Please write how to set this printer to print unidirectionally, currently the printing mechanism works bidirectionally. I can't set it up in the system. Please write whether unidirectional vs. bidirectional printing makes any difference in print quality? Thank you for your answer and sorry for my English. Regards

[@KeithCooper]

It's a driver setting on my Mac - I've not used a win PC for many years so don't know the exact equivalent. If the printer is well set up it doesn't make a lot of difference on most papers

[@ScandiSquirrel]

Hello👋. I wanted to ask, if you print only black text, on matte or silk matte paper, 200-300g, for a poster, how black is black? Deep, strong black as with some good laser printer, or? Thanks

[@KeithCooper]

Depends entirely on the media setting and paper used. The VFA setting uses all inks so will be pretty good if the paper handles the matt black ink. For text, fairly black, but I've not used a laser printer for over a decade...

[@francho2516]

Is the black version of this printer available only to countries other than the US?

[@KeithCooper]

That's a question for Epson... I've no idea how they decide what goes where. I've never seen a white one here [UK]

[@francho2516]

Seems like US retailers only carry in white, haven't seen in black, I got one and looks different than yours.

[@stalker1567]

how long do you think black and white pictures will last off this as i need a office printer but want to fill the hall with my BW pictures and also sell some local. If it takes off i will get a better suited one.

[@KeithCooper]

On good paper - probably longer than you or me... ;-) I don't have any numbers though

[@stalker1567]

@@KeithCooper so apparently the Clara ink hd for the HD xp 15000 is rated for 300 years but. The common number fof dye is about 30 years. Pigment ive seen 100. Im torn on this and the cannon pro 300. Differnt printers i know, the ET85 was a though that i could get it to do everything where is with the cannon id have to get s cheaper office printer.

[@KeithCooper]

If print lifetimes matter, I'm going to say you would get a pigment ink based printer. Most of the print lifetime stuff you see is pure marketing designed to make people worry about something which is of no serious consequence to them ;-) The 8550 is a consumer level printer - but with good paper and colour management I'd happily put the prints on my wall. BTW I'll have a short video about print lifetimes this weekend...

[@betogar7247]

good afternoon, have you taken a photograph of people in black and white with soft satin paper? greetings from Mexico

[@KeithCooper]

Ah, I'm a commercial architectural and industrial photographer ...I genuinely don't do people photos ;-) Well, I do sometimes, but they are usually operating machinery or wearing hi-vis safety gear ;-)

[@betogar7247]

@@KeithCooper Ok, so my question would be the following, really this printer does offer black and white without giving green or reddish tones, I am dedicated to identification and school photography and I require real black and white photos for university procedures

[@betogar7247]

and i work with an epson p600 but it is very expensive to produce

[@KeithCooper]

B&W is very dependent on paper choice for the 8550 - see my actual (written) review for more detail (my videos are produced to supplement my written work, not the other way round ;-) ) Yes, B&W can be quite good, but you will always get the potential of a bit of illuminant metamerism. The P600 gives good B&W, but was always going to be relatively pricy compared to a P800. For B&W, my choice is a P5000. I've recently produced a series of large B&W portraits for a friend's exhibition (not images I can use for testing)

[@TheEverPresentOne]

Hi Keith - I'd like to print black&white pages to hand finish with coloured pencil. But I've tried giclée coated textured papers from pro-company-printers and they don't work well for pencils. The texture feels soft and stodgy. I was thinking of trying to print my own on uncoated paper - is this plausible?

[@KeithCooper]

Very difficult on uncoated paper, especially so on a printer like this with its particular ink-set B&W can be problematic See the B&W section at www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@KeithCooper]

@@TheEverPresentOne No, the problem is that the ink and media are not compatible. Inks bleed on uncoated papers

[@TheEverPresentOne]

@@KeithCooper v informative. Good that I didn't try it! Thanks for your reply 👍

[@KeithCooper]

@@TheEverPresentOne papers vary a lot - I'd look at an Innova or hanemuhle swatch book to see how the printed images look and react to pencil

[@HARSHINI243]

Can stiffer cards be stacked up in top feed or front feed.. if so how many cards on average can be stacked up? If not, Will I be able to stack up in epson sc p900? Thanks in advance!

[@KeithCooper]

No stiffer card can be stacked reliably with that printer. Very few printers I've looked at can do this. See for one example at www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-wf-c8690-printer-review/

[@HARSHINI243]

@@KeithCooper Thanks for your response.. this helps a lot.. Any idea if I can print vynyl stickers using this same epson WF C8690 printers.. I am just looking for a printer to print cards for calendars and vynyl stickers for printing die cut stickers.. Thank you so much!

[@KeithCooper]

Vinyl stickers only work with normal inkjets IF you find a sticker material designed for such printers. All too often, the ink rubs off or does not set properly

[@davidmilimo5530]

hello my epson always gives me erro code 000031, paper jam ,lock locked etc , after switch it off for 20 minutes it works again ,,,can update help my printer?

[@KeithCooper]

I don't know, but it won't do any harm

[@antonmeijerman8538]

In the video showcasing Epson EcoTank ET-8550 A3+ black and white fine art prints, paper options, and print settings, Epson Print Layout software is utilized. However, upon visiting Epson's website, under the software section for Epson Print Layout, the following printers are listed as supported: SureColor® P400, P600, P700*, P800, P900*, P5000, P6000, P7000, P7570, P8000, P9000, and P9570. The Epson ET8550 is not listed, despite being featured in your video. Could you explain how this discrepancy arises?

[@KeithCooper]

The Epson list is wrong... ;-)

[@flol3266]

I know it's late but I had a talk with epson support and they told me the Epson print layout software is only for their big format printers and I should use the Epson photo+ software. And indeed the results were better. Just my 2 cents.

[@KeithCooper]

EPL is vastly better and supports many unlisted printers Epson support are people reading scripts - it's not their fault ;-) Photo+ is a simple consumer application - no finesse or control. It works for some, but from a print quality and functionality POV, EPL wipes the floor with it :-)

[@flol3266]

@@KeithCooper the thing is, I contacted them because the driver is not installing the profiles. Can't find any of them on my computer and even in the Epson print layout I do not have the option to choose the Epson velvet fine art paper and so I have no control to use the pigment Ink. Do you know where I can get those profiles? Therefore I can not load any ICC profiles into lightroom and when I choose "manage color by printer" and choose the right paper there, the prints look awful. Prints in general don't look that good. Sadly I got better results with the Epson photo+.

[@KeithCooper]

Mac or PC? On Macs it's important not to accidentally install the AirPrint driver

[@flol3266]

@@KeithCooper I am on Mac. I do not think that I installed that. But I will try to unnstall everything and install only the necessary driver again.

[@KeithCooper]

See my 8550 setup info via www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ I do also have a video about the 'AirPrint' problem. Go to epson.sn for the install - follow the instructions carefully. This has caught me out in the past - one reason I cover the 'Airprint' issue in every review.

[@Jverse]

5:38 - is that a 300gsm or 400gsm paper?

[@KeithCooper]

300 I should think - I don't believe I had any 400 to test [it was a while ago]

[@Jverse]

@@KeithCooper Can you confirm if we can get fine quality photo prints on 350gsm paper or 400gsm using this printer?

[@KeithCooper]

Probably - however, read the main [written] reviews. It was a long while since I wrote them and I do not have the printers here any more www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ and www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/ Remember that my videos are generally only supplements to my written articles, rarely the other way round! ;-)

[@seahorsecrazy]

Hi Keith are we able to email you please? Thank you

[@KeithCooper]

Email addr is on the Northlight Images site - where all the links in the description point to

[@seahorsecrazy]

@@KeithCooper thank you

[@seahorsecrazy]

@@KeithCooper email sent 😊

[@davidgraeme-baker2612]

"Fine Art Printing”, yes, it makes me cringe too. Fine Art photography - surely that’s for the audience to judge and not something to be printed on a business card !

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - it's dealt with purely in our marketing department ;-)

[@paulosergio-bx5tc]

hello master, could you provide me with some profiles that you created for the et 8550, I have some important photos here and I would like them to have a real color, I really needed your help please, if you could provide me with some I would be very grateful,How could I contact you, email?1

[@KeithCooper]

See the profiles listed in the main [written] review - email me which are of use, at Northlight Images www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@paulosergio-bx5tc]

@@KeithCooper Hi, I already sent the email, when I can...thanks