ERIC BISCHOFF: "WHY GOLDBERG *HAD TO* LOSE in 1999"

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3 ай бұрын

Eric Bischoff on the end of Goldberg's streak. Bill Goldberg was WCW's unstoppable monster - but the streak had to end at some point, Eric says.
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@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg should have lost it to DDP. DDP's popularity was seriously on fire at that point.
@DevilMaskMedia
@DevilMaskMedia 3 ай бұрын
DDP with a bit of an underdog "from out of nowhere win" would have been awesome.
@krillep546
@krillep546 3 ай бұрын
No that's an afterconstuction. DDP wasn't redhot in 1999. He wasn't on NWO, Sting, Goldberg level. He was over, but not as much as them. - It's easy to say "He should have won" . But Sting, Nash or Hogan should have beat him. And I think the right call was Nash. Listen to the pop at the end when Nash wins the title.
@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 3 ай бұрын
@@krillep546 Jim Ross disagrees with you. He mentioned on his old podcast (not the one with Conrad) that DDP should have won his match against Goldberg.
@krillep546
@krillep546 3 ай бұрын
@@itchyisvegeta I dont care what Jim Ross said. He didnt watch WCW at this time frequently as we did.
@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 3 ай бұрын
@@krillep546 He watched it enough to scout talent who's contracts were up, and monitor their competition during the monday night wars. Its ok if you disagree. That's cool. But someone's opinion like Jim Ross carries a lot more weight than yours and mine put together.
@undertakerfanz628
@undertakerfanz628 3 ай бұрын
He should have lost the streak to DDP at Halloween Havoc
@chicagoan6342
@chicagoan6342 3 ай бұрын
I agree or Sting should have ended the streak.
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
No definitely not
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 ай бұрын
No! That was too early
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@thesupervisor3270 agree
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@LiquidSnakeOuterHeaven I was also born in the '80s, and Goldberg doesn't suck. I think you're just a hater of powerful men. Just remember, people come to see wrestling to be entertained, not just to see long, talented wrestling matches.
@swishbenoit4489
@swishbenoit4489 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg randomly spearing grips and blowing smoke out his nose would have actually been funny as hell 😂😂
@Cobane823
@Cobane823 3 ай бұрын
It should of been Steiner , beating Goldberg made Kevin Nash no bigger of a superstar but it would made Big Poppa Pump a brand new top guy and a megastar to draw money with
@reginaldshort8486
@reginaldshort8486 3 ай бұрын
They could’ve done an injury angle where he wins but gets hurt and is on the shelf for 6 months. He takes that time to train with Arn and some of the retired vets to do more than squash matches. Once he lost it was over and so was WCW.
@drewburnettepodcasts
@drewburnettepodcasts 3 ай бұрын
Scott Steiner would've been perfect to end it. He was believable, he could have great matches, & needed to be elevated. Booker T & Benoit, similarly needed the elevation. Or how about DDP? He lost to Goldberg once. But it was a great/close match. Reward DDP for that amazing performance. How about that?
@questionmark1957
@questionmark1957 3 ай бұрын
Booker T would have been a good pick to beat Goldberg IMO
@goodreverend2k1
@goodreverend2k1 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg streak should have ended, Just not by Kevin Nash. It should have been DDP.
@LRM5195
@LRM5195 4 ай бұрын
It cracks me up to this day when Nash says “I was more over than him” when ending the streak. Nash…you were always a guy who wanted to be the man, but you were never REALLY the man. The streak should’ve ended to a rising star, but WCW didn’t know how to do that.
@jso416
@jso416 3 ай бұрын
That’s debatable. Nash was definitely seen as the man during his 1995 Championship run as Diesel in the WWF. You could say he failed as the man, but he was definitely the top guy at that time.
@SLICK8116
@SLICK8116 3 ай бұрын
@@jso416😅😂
@ronaldmccain1181
@ronaldmccain1181 3 ай бұрын
Which rising star was there for the fans to get behind and believe he could beat Goldberg fairly.
@nickbanks7954
@nickbanks7954 3 ай бұрын
​@@ronaldmccain1181 DDP.
@ronaldmccain1181
@ronaldmccain1181 3 ай бұрын
​@@nickbanks7954DDP was already established
@smyersfishingadventures
@smyersfishingadventures 3 ай бұрын
Having Nash end the streak was an absolute joke. But that was WCW. Bischoff was the perfect example of a blind squirrel who found a nut (NWO). Even by his own admission Goldberg just happened, so they reacted to his popularity. The Goldberg streak ending when and how it did was just one of many, many, many mistakes made by Bischoff. The constant run ins/screwy finishes, NWO being half the roster were just a couple other things that made WCW nearly unwatchable. The finger poke of doom, starcade 97, and others get a lot of the blame, but the entire direction and over saturation of NWO and never ending screwy finishes, for me was why I switched to the WWF
@Erlewyn
@Erlewyn 3 ай бұрын
How is reacting to a guy getting over organically a bad thing?
@smyersfishingadventures
@smyersfishingadventures 3 ай бұрын
@@Erlewyn Please point out where I said it was a bad thing. I was simply pointing out it had nothing to do with Bischoff.
@trapdoorfloyd
@trapdoorfloyd 3 ай бұрын
Sting had his ass no problem on nitro for the belt until Hogan came in and cheated Sting from winning the belt. String was rolling Goldberg up nobody ever before had. Goldberg tried a tombstone pile driver and Sting reversed it on him like the champ he was. Then Sting had him in the scorpion 🦂 deathlock with no freaking way out of it until stupid Hogan came in and hit Sting in the head when the ref wasn't looking and then after that Goldberg beat him. One of the cheapest dirtiest ending to a championship match I ever saw.
@WeAreTheNation
@WeAreTheNation 3 ай бұрын
And as soon as it happened the crowd died and Goldberg got booed for winning.
@koutlaw30
@koutlaw30 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if Goldberg would have dropped the belt to Booker T in 1998?
@aaronthomasmay
@aaronthomasmay 3 ай бұрын
DDP should have beat him at Starcade
@MegaSting1981
@MegaSting1981 3 ай бұрын
Its funny because going into that Starrcade, Goldberg/Bigelow was more of a story with Nash being shoehorned into that if you watch the shows leading up to it.
@eddurriii8214
@eddurriii8214 3 ай бұрын
Saying Nash was shoehorned into the match shows how little you actually know of what took place…
@jabberwock6
@jabberwock6 3 ай бұрын
Bret should've been the one who ended the streak
@Hunkzilla
@Hunkzilla 3 ай бұрын
I think it should have been Big Poppa Pump ending the streak by locking the Steiner Reclyner on Goldberg until he passed out .
@fizzyfuzz5878
@fizzyfuzz5878 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. He was a heel then, was the leader of the nWo black and white I believe for a time in late '98, he was the right guy. Nash was already one of the industry's biggest stars, if anything it hurt Nash. If I had the book I would've had Scott end the streak like that at Bash At The Beach '99.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg shouldn’t have lost to Nash at Starrcade 98 period! And yeah he should have started doing more competitive matches like his match with DDP at Halloween Havoc. Lex Lugar, Sid, Randy Savage, Sting, DDP, Wrath, Scott Steiner, Rick Steiner, Booker T, Bam Bam Bigelow, Curt Hening, Perry Saturn, and Shane Douglas are all believable on beating Goldberg
@myyoutube62
@myyoutube62 3 ай бұрын
I can't remember if he'd really been built up much as a main eventer at the time, but Scott Steiner could've been a good choice, too. Big and jacked up, extremely entertaining promo, and at that point could still go.
@michaelvazquez7851
@michaelvazquez7851 3 ай бұрын
Nice interview yesterday
@Emaran123
@Emaran123 3 ай бұрын
Awsome the best wrestling podcast ever
@TiVo67
@TiVo67 3 ай бұрын
DDP gave Goldberg a great match. Pair him with the right opponents and they coulda continued the streak and momentum for quite a bit longer.
@rdtbrik1161
@rdtbrik1161 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Goldberg should have went 500Ws before they ended the streak
@dandaye3258
@dandaye3258 3 ай бұрын
Bobby hennan said it. Goldberg should have went 2000-0. Goldberg don’t lose no matter what. Goldberg galling down should be the finish. Dang. Nash put him down. Wow. Eric dropped the ball. He had Bruno. 80s hogan and flushed it down the toilit. Goldberg could have had the belt for three years. That Goldberg train could have been road. Profit also. Give Goldberg super matches and stories to win. Easy
@louio
@louio 3 ай бұрын
I actually agree, Goldberg was one of those guys who could have hold the belt for multiple years.
@dandaye3258
@dandaye3258 3 ай бұрын
@@louio Imagine putting Goldberg in ladder. Matches. Cage matches. Triple threat’s. Yada yada. And just the anticipation. Much like Roman reigns. It’s crazy Eric and company are seeing the blood line and Goldberg couldn’t have a couple heaters. And whatever else
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Yes, Bobby Heenan said it. Heenan knows Bill Goldberg was good for business. People who complain the most about Bill Goldberg, I don't think they even saw him wrestling in the '90s. I think most complainers were born after WCW's downturn in the year 2000.
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc 3 ай бұрын
that could work if Goldberg is booked correctly. He was losing steam in late '98 because they didn't have a good plan with any continuity. Goldberg needed to keep evolving but also have viable heels built up too. They had too many Nitro throwaway matches and then didn't have good PPV matches for Goldberg other than DDP for his whole run with the belt. Keep him limited and special when he appears but have him doing cool stuff when he does appear. Having him add a few new moves to his moveset, have him do some impressive stuff with feats of strength etc
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc I don’t know up to his streak 177-0 he did well. It was basically the management issue and organization. I think Goldberg did his role perfectly. It was management issue?
@mattmcewan1980
@mattmcewan1980 3 ай бұрын
We never got Goldberg vs Randy Savage in 98
@alin81-82
@alin81-82 3 ай бұрын
I used to think the way goldberg's streak ended sucked, but it made the most sense, actually. His gimmick was that he was unstoppable, so it HAD to take a tazer in a no dq match to do it.
@DWtechfan
@DWtechfan 3 ай бұрын
I particularly laughed at that question about how Bischoff can tell the truth and stay loyal to someone at the same time. Each time he talks about Starrcade ‘97 he lies to stay loyal to Hogan. He’ll say Sting manifested that dumbass ending when anyone with half a brain sees Hogan sabotaged Sting because he wanted an out. If Hogan gets the out, he can keep his “spot”. It’s ridiculous that he’s still lying about that in 2024. Just say Hogan pulled creative control. Go back and watch Starrcade and the lead up and aftermath. Sting wasn’t pale white or “not tan enough”. Although he wasn’t in great shape, he wasn’t in bad shape either. Those are excuses Hogan used to outright lie and use to justify screwing a year and a half of build to help himself. As for Goldberg and his streak, I agree it couldn’t last forever. But WCW ended it in the dumbest possible way and there were a whole roster of people more deserving to build a career off that win. Nash was a politician just like Hogan.
@forestnews5949
@forestnews5949 3 ай бұрын
The streak should have ended earlier in the summer, and I would have chosen Benoit or Booker to be the villain (inverting the Sting arc), but then I would have developed a back and forth story for those three characters over 1999. Goldberg could carry the belt again, lose it, win it.
@georgen5882
@georgen5882 3 ай бұрын
Benoit was a cruiserweight at the time and a mid card talent at best. He was way underused, to be sure, but that roster was stacked and there was no way he was going to be the one to do it. Neither would Booker. I liked Booker, but he was a TV champ guy still and hadn't been raised to world title status yet.
@gilbertsanchez4583
@gilbertsanchez4583 3 ай бұрын
He didn't beat Goldberg by himself, he got helped from is buddy S.Hall
@Cinque.Stelle.General
@Cinque.Stelle.General 3 ай бұрын
Watching an old WWE clip of Goldberg, Stonecold and Bischoff in a ring together, just golden! Oh it’s true, it’s damn true, Bischoff created Goldberg!
@knightmare1015
@knightmare1015 2 ай бұрын
Bill Goldberg was and is a mark and that night before he went against Hogan, he got exposed by Scott Hall when he said to Scott Hall in the middle of the ring that he didn't know what to do. DDP had to explain to him several times how missing the spear in the beginning would have made their match much better. We are also talking about a guy who complained about Asuka breaking his streak and didn't say anything about Gunther and Roman Reigns who also broke it by staying champions and not losing a match in years. Also Goldberg hurt everyone he went in the ring with including Taker.
@DebitAdams
@DebitAdams 3 ай бұрын
Why Goldberg had to lose in 1999 (December 27, 1998)
@robertogomez2932
@robertogomez2932 3 ай бұрын
On his birthday no less.
@krillep546
@krillep546 3 ай бұрын
1. The fans screamed "Goldberg sucks" under the match. 2. Listen to Kevin Nash pop when beating Goldberg. Says it all. Nash was megaover at this time. Goldberg had to lose sooner or later and it was time ending the year and getting in 1999 with a new storyline.
@DebitAdams
@DebitAdams 3 ай бұрын
@@krillep546 The aftermath was trash.
@DebitAdams
@DebitAdams 3 ай бұрын
@LiquidSnakeOuterHeaven True, he was very green but super over. It would have been hard not to push him like they did. I loved watching the streak as a kid and watched one of his matches live during the peak of the streak but prior to the world title win.
@richardstanley7661
@richardstanley7661 3 ай бұрын
Oh come on! He was 5 days off.
@dustin6528
@dustin6528 3 ай бұрын
He was still the most over guy on the shows and had plenty of guys left to go against. Bam Bam, Luger, Bret, Booker T, Benoit, Sting on PPV, the Hogan rematch on PPV…and on and on.
@Dwayne0630
@Dwayne0630 3 ай бұрын
He already beat Bam Bam decisively… Luger wasn’t exactly drawing massive numbers in 98… dude was mostly Sting’s partner… Booker and Benoit were midcard guys at that point in 98 and would have been a step down… No one wants to see Sting get steamrolled… he was the franchise of WCW… and neither guy was a good enough worker to pull off a good babyface match with the other… the few times they did wrestle split the audience awkwardly and ended with interference from Hogan.
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc 3 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne0630 Goldberg didn't officially have the blow off match with Bam Bam until Superbrawl. I agree with Luger and some bring up Randy Savage but same issue. I think a rematch with Sting or a proper build up to a Hogan rematch could work. Scott Steiner was up and coming and looked the part to beat Goldberg. Booker T and Benoit could have used the rub in beating Goldberg to get to the main event level sooner than they did. This was part of the problem that Eric and team created. The Sting option could work but they didn't know how to make a face vs. face match very often. They didn't build up enough heels and new talent at the main event level. DDP could have even had a good rematch with Goldberg. Bret and Goldberg needed to have a match still but their booking with Bret was screwy and he was out at this time. They didn't need to do it when they did and Nash was an ok pick but the follow up was just terrible. I think that they still had time and options to end the streak if they wanted to. Also, Goldberg had been having some decent matches here and there that weren't all squashes. His title run with the belt was crap due to booking too. He fought Hennig at Bash at the Beach after winning the belt with no build up. He fight in the NWO battle royal at Road Wild. Then he doesn't main event Fall Brawl. He has a weird mini-fued with Jericho on Nitro. Halloween Havoc with DDP was good. He then didn't have a real match at WW3. Then he goes to Starcade with Nash. I think they could have done an old football injury angle. Maybe he spears the post and loses so they don't have to do the taser. Then it's in his head and he doubts himself. He has to rehab and you can tell something's off etc. This would give him some sympathy and some character depth. He has to learn new moves and overcome something in the months that follow. Or you have a DDP heal turn to beat Goldberg in a rematch. A lot of other options.
@dustin6528
@dustin6528 3 ай бұрын
The Bam Bam match happened 2 months later at Superbrawl and meant nothing at that point.
@Blue-g1v
@Blue-g1v 3 ай бұрын
Yay, no Conrad.
@joshuaarmand5236
@joshuaarmand5236 3 ай бұрын
It’s a better show without that Alabama lard
@pinroshan020
@pinroshan020 3 ай бұрын
@@joshuaarmand5236lol!
@WeAreTheNation
@WeAreTheNation 3 ай бұрын
It’s always funny when Bischoff goes out his way to bash Meltzer even though Dave reported the Goldberg loss to Nash/nWo reunion plan about two months before it happened.
@URLnotEarl
@URLnotEarl 3 ай бұрын
Bret Hart was tbe first to defeat Goldberg fair & square.
@libcrypt98
@libcrypt98 3 ай бұрын
In a fake fight? Okay...
@URLnotEarl
@URLnotEarl 2 ай бұрын
@@libcrypt98 according to the fake fight rules, yes ty.
@fizzyfuzz5878
@fizzyfuzz5878 2 ай бұрын
When? All the matches I saw them have ended with run ins and worked screw jobs at Goldberg's expense
@JasonQuinn-qq4om
@JasonQuinn-qq4om 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg in 1998 was must see tv. Goldberg was M.I.A. In 1999. Goldberg didn’t want to put people over. Then he wanted more money. Politics ruined WCW.
@louio
@louio 3 ай бұрын
Rightfully so, he became a cash cow for wcw
@georgen5882
@georgen5882 3 ай бұрын
I don't think he had creative control, so I don't know where you are getting your information from. He also left in 1999 to do Universal Soldier for a bit. He needed a break. He'd been going hard for like a year and a half at that point. Once his loss to Nash hit, he got pretty trashed on and used poorly, so while he may not have put anyone over he also wasn't given an opportunity to rise again himself. Except at the one event where he beat Sting for the title, only to find out it wasn't a title match on Nitro. After that Starrcade WcW was garbage overall.
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
He is the greatest WCW wrestler
@jeffarent
@jeffarent 3 ай бұрын
Breaking news- the man who sold WCW to the WWF Jamie Kellner Dies: TV Executive Who Helped Launch Fox & The WB Was 77
@RishiRich23
@RishiRich23 3 ай бұрын
WHO’S NEXT?! A TASER…SMH LOL 😂
@theLoneWolfSpeaks
@theLoneWolfSpeaks 3 ай бұрын
WCW should have brought in Gillburg to end Olderg’s streak.
@BW-zd6nc
@BW-zd6nc 3 ай бұрын
They had a great storyline building with Wrath. He was bulldozing guys for months and could have continue as being a monster heel with a streak bersus streak match. Sucked it was squashed.
@OneUltimateWarrior
@OneUltimateWarrior 3 ай бұрын
Kevin Sullivan said he could've gotten 3 more months out of The Streak. SOURCE: Taskmaster Talks
@sliccric2266
@sliccric2266 3 ай бұрын
I remember that period.. Goldberg was still popular as hell. Yeah Nash was too, not denying that either.. but Goldberg needed to stay undefeated, and that doesn't mean every match needed to be a squash. Prime Mike Tyson didn't squash everyone. There needed to be a bit of adversity and psychology incorporated into his matches at some point whilst still winning, ala 80's Hogan.. building towards a Babyface vs Babyface mega match down the line vs Sting, who's massive popularity during the Hogan chase they didn't capitalise on.. Steiner should have been built up sooner as the mega heel who could be the man to defeat the indestructible Goldberg.. rematch vs Hogan, proper storylines with Bret, Booker etc..don't know why Bischoff can't ever just say they got it wrong.
@Joel-wv9wx
@Joel-wv9wx 3 ай бұрын
Because squash match was all Goldberg could work. They couldn't build him like Hogan because Goldberg would need some form of mic skills and all he could say on the mic was "who's next?". Trust me, Eric is right, I got bored with Goldberg after a few months
@donaldmurphy1405
@donaldmurphy1405 3 ай бұрын
Ya I think Bret Scott Steiner Luger and Randy Savage were about the only guys Goldberg never beat,or just never Wrestled
@Bill-tz3wg
@Bill-tz3wg 3 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of eZe E but I thought that Goldberg business stunk it up. Instead of tasering him you could have just had Goldberg get jumped by the nWo and get storyline injured badly. This would have justified taking the belt off Bill, letting him take some time away from the cameras, come back fresh and have new opponents to fight on his quest to regain the heavyweight title that...as he would've said...he never lost in the first place.
@BlitzSportsNetwork
@BlitzSportsNetwork 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg was booked like Superman. Eric needed to give Goldberg a kryptonite. Perhaps a worked knee injury & knee brace, along with a directive for Goldberg to become the best at selling in the company, could have gone a long way. Someone telling Goldberg to shake hands with a brace for a worked injury opens up a world of possibilities as a writer. A worked injury weakening "Superman" or "WCW Mike Tyson" was one of many possibilities Eric could have gone with as writer. Including Goldberg barely hanging on to the title, despite his injury, which would have easily prolonged his story as champion. There wasn't much creativity with Goldberg, because his imposing style spoke volumes. But there's a lot that could have been done, with all due respect.
@Maverick512000
@Maverick512000 3 ай бұрын
Except Goldberg was horrible at selling his whole career. Remember this is the guy that thought slamming his head into a locker and punching a real glass window were both good ideas.
@BlitzSportsNetwork
@BlitzSportsNetwork 3 ай бұрын
@@Maverick512000 Which is why handing him a knee brace/injury angle gives a "still green" (according to his colleagues) talent a chance to find his comfort zone with selling. Allowing him to Superman the roster forever led to a dead end, and allowed this weakness to continue. Eric was a writer/booker/promoter who wrote himself in to a corner but there are always creative options. Goldberg is criticized by Nash for losing the crowds, but that falls on the creative team. Booking him as 80's Mike Tyson was stale. He needed to be weakened. Picture injured Goldberg, "who needs time off" as he's forced in to title defenses against the nWo who are using corruption to force Bill in to title defenses. Just one off the top of the head idea. The art of storytelling is not exclusive to professional wrestling. Eric's storytelling included a lot of "if it's not broke, don't fix it", which is understandable with how hot everything was, but he still didn't adapt and develop longer storylines with nWo, Goldberg, Sting post Starrcade, etc. 90's WCW was some amazing television, but the stories were all dead ends... not from a wrestling perspective, but from an any type of story from any type of genre perspective. This tends to be the case with a lot in wrestling, so it's not a condemnation of Eric. Just a response to the notion that nothing could be done differently.
@Maverick512000
@Maverick512000 3 ай бұрын
@BlitzSportsNetwork great wall of text but you missed my point entirely. Put a brace on a guy all you want he still has to sell it. They could have put 90s Goldberg in a full body cast and he wouldn't have remembered to sell.
@georgen5882
@georgen5882 3 ай бұрын
@@Maverick512000 The only thing I'll say is that with the glass breaking incident, he had a bar in his fist that he dropped. He was never supposed to break it with just his hand, and that's why he tore his forearm up. He dropped whatever the piece of metal was he had but kept the bit going and got hurt.
@BlitzSportsNetwork
@BlitzSportsNetwork 3 ай бұрын
@@Maverick512000 "Wall of text?" I read a lot, so not sure why you'd complain about reading a point that's been expounded upon. And you're missing my point. Selling an injury isn't rocket science. We aren't asking Goldberg to create alternative math equations or fabricate anti gravity space ships. He is being asked to sell a knee injury, and the point is giving a ridiculously OP character, a weakness. Selling a knee injury isn't exactly asking Goldberg to become Dustin Hoffman and portray autism. It's a simple knee injury and it removes Goldberg overpowering everyone, which was causing the audience to sour on him. Your insistence on his incapability is indicative of your refusal to accept a more obvious viewpoint. Allowing him to demolish everyone, and never creating that weakness, caused the audiences to turn on him. Obviously.
@remingtonporter1734
@remingtonporter1734 3 ай бұрын
I know hindsight is 20/20... But with that UNBELIEVABLE Roster they had in 1998-99, they could have had the streak go a few more months. Had him lose at Superbrawl to either; a Heel DDP, Bam Bam Bigelow, start building Scott Steiner up,. I know Nash and others like to rag on Goldberg for the fact that he really couldn't work or go past 12 minutes. NEWSFLASH! Anyone that was in the Main Event scene in WCW around that time couldn't go past 15 minutes including Nash!
@georgen5882
@georgen5882 3 ай бұрын
Sting could, so could Luger I bet. Anyone could put on a 15 minute match if they had breathing room. Hell, watch the match with DDP and Goldberg from Halloween Havoc. That was a hell of a match and more than 15 minutes. Plenty could do it, they just didn't need them to all the time.
@paulquantumblues3599
@paulquantumblues3599 3 ай бұрын
A monster heel like Wrath should have ended the streak... instead just as Wrath was getting over nash beat him. Also, Scott Steiner could have beaten Goldberg, Booker t could have beaten Golberg, Bret hart could have beaten Goldberg, and Sting just about beat Goldberg but Hogan kicked him in the back of the head. There's four guys on the roster who are not Nash, that could have beat Goldberg.
@drewburnettepodcasts
@drewburnettepodcasts 3 ай бұрын
I agree with Scott, Wrath, & Booker. I would throw in DDP or Benoit. All of them it could've elevated.
@paulquantumblues3599
@paulquantumblues3599 3 ай бұрын
@@drewburnettepodcasts Yeah. I agree with all of those guys you mentioned.
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc 3 ай бұрын
@@paulquantumblues3599 some of them weren't quite at that level yet but in early '99, they needed to give the boost to Benoit, Booker, Steiner etc. Wrath was getting there but still needed some time. DDP was in position and could've made sense for sure. I don't think an established guy should get it. It's much like Brock ending the WM streak for Undertaker. He didn't really need that rub
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA 3 ай бұрын
Eric still protecting his buddies...But if anyone was gonna break the streak...It should've been DDP ...
@codyhoney9101
@codyhoney9101 3 ай бұрын
There are several people that would have been believable. Sting, Lugar (though that wouldn't have been a great match), Macho Man, Scott Steiner, DDP, Raven with a lot of cheating. But Nash and the wolfpac were super hot.
@louio
@louio 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg vs. Raven rematch for the World Title would have been one helluva rollercoaster ride. 😂😂
@codyhoney9101
@codyhoney9101 3 ай бұрын
@@louio he could have been a top guy. That's what made Nash winning exciting. It was looking like the old man era was finally over. Hogan was the man, but he really should have taken a back seat for a little while.
@adamkeller7749
@adamkeller7749 3 ай бұрын
I agree that Goldberg should have lost his streak unlike all his marks who say it should have never stopped but Eric, you created that monster Goldberg! What has Meltzer to do with it? You were the one creating the Goldberg 170 wins or more streak, so you should be blamed for that whole thing too. Just like you didn't know how to end the nWo you didn't know how to end Goldberg's streak.
@ricksanchez2425
@ricksanchez2425 3 ай бұрын
Bret
@Dreaklock
@Dreaklock 3 ай бұрын
Nah, Goldberg should have remained undefeated. He could start having closer matches without squashing everyone but still remain undefeated.
@BigRaji1981
@BigRaji1981 3 ай бұрын
Everyone and their mom knew that Goldberg had to lose the streak because there was nobody left so Booker t or a Benoit or someone like that beating him and making them a star never crossed his mind why? And he wonders why he gets so much backlash for trying to tell TK what to do?
@depthsofhell
@depthsofhell 3 ай бұрын
They call me the big bad booty daddy
@silencio00
@silencio00 3 ай бұрын
I don't think the issue is why or when but how.
@jahdorose8659
@jahdorose8659 3 ай бұрын
Good afternoon
@tomriddlevoldemont628
@tomriddlevoldemont628 3 ай бұрын
goldberg should of lost his first match to red and black sting on a pay per view - sting was always over and greatest wcw star
@kylecook6365
@kylecook6365 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg losing wasn’t the problem. Losing to Nash sucked but even that wasn’t the problem. The finger poke of doom the next night was the problem. They should’ve kept nash the champ, turn him heel, then make him the leader of the NWO. Have him kick hogan to the curb and have Goldberg and hogan team up.
@WeAreTheNation
@WeAreTheNation 3 ай бұрын
Hogan only greenlit Nash winning the title under the agreement that the belt was going straight back to him. So Kevin had a snowballs chance of keeping it any longer than the following week with the FPOD happened.
@IBIXBOSSFAMZ
@IBIXBOSSFAMZ 3 ай бұрын
Nash was super over and the right guy I think it was the story after that wasn't too good
@johnbach2380
@johnbach2380 3 ай бұрын
If only Goldberg was undefeated till the ends of time… then only then would wcw survive the Monday night wars. 😂
@jamesdriskill5784
@jamesdriskill5784 3 ай бұрын
Eric full of it. Goldberg streak ending caused many fans to leave
@MrMack1622
@MrMack1622 3 ай бұрын
The finger poke of doom had nothing to do with Goldberg losing at Starcade. People also forget that Kevin Nash and the Wolfpac was 🔥 at the time. You might not like HOW it happened but that doesn’t mean the whole thing is garbage.
@garygould6722
@garygould6722 3 ай бұрын
1 nash was second most popular guy at time behind Goldberg and other than giant the one who look most capable of beating Goldberg . 2 they gave goldberg a good loss it took a taser to beat him so he still looked strong. But Why dose none mention Goldberg fuck this thing up for everyone himself also with hand injury when he punched out window of car he was told use Sledge Hammer. (A shard of glass sliced an artery in Goldberg's arm during this spot, leading to a serious injury. It nearly resulted in the amputation of one of his arms. The recovery took him out of WCW programming for nearly five months, and is considered one of the reasons for WCW's eventual demise.22 Mar 2024) the finger poke of doom sucked but the point was goldberg was ment be babyface chasing for title belt it wrestling 101. Just something to think about
@krillep546
@krillep546 3 ай бұрын
1. The fans screamed "Goldberg sucks" under the match. 2. Listen to Kevin Nash pop when beating Goldberg. Says it all. Nash was megaover at this time.
@jerrysmission
@jerrysmission 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg should of lost the streak to La Parka
@alvin4551
@alvin4551 3 ай бұрын
Most definitely 😅
@DavidMiller-uo6cs
@DavidMiller-uo6cs 3 ай бұрын
Nah. Disco inferno would've been my choice, or Norman Smiley
@chozahfearless7524
@chozahfearless7524 3 ай бұрын
​@@DavidMiller-uo6csNorman smiley would be like hogan losing to the genius on snme 😂
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg should go 1000-0, that’s what Bobby heenan wants, and none of you messaging knows better than Bobby heenan. So respectful and stop hating
@thaddeusharvey2489
@thaddeusharvey2489 3 ай бұрын
Bill Goldberg should have lost the streak to El Dandy. Lose to El Dandy in 1999, Bill Goldberg. You know what, Bill Goldberg? El Dandy is a hell of a wrestler! Who are you to doubt El Dandy… BILL GOLDBERG?
@mattbailey6501
@mattbailey6501 3 ай бұрын
David Arquette should have ended the streak.
@drcat1313
@drcat1313 3 ай бұрын
I disagree Eric Dave vs Giant has been done over and over again. Rey mysterio is the best example of this
@allencollins5666
@allencollins5666 4 ай бұрын
Goldberg’s Loss Didn’t Make Him Slightest Look Weak. Not At All. He Was So Over & Superman After Starrcade 1998. And He Going Through The NWO One By One Until He Finally Get To Hogan With That WCW Would’ve Surpassed The WWE In The Ratings & With Sting & Savage Returning. It Was A Lot Of Storyline Built With Sting & Savage Getting Revenge. Because Of Injuries To Top Stars And The NWO Disbanding For Hogan & Hart To Get Their Comeuupance, Sting & Savage Had To Be Heels. Bret Injuring Sting Got His Comeuppance After Sting Turned Heel And DDP Injuring Hogan’s Knee Was FOR Savage & Savage Helped DDP Win The Title Hitting Flair And Not Sting.
@LRM5195
@LRM5195 4 ай бұрын
Why are you capitalizing the first letter of every word? Ffs that looks awful.
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII 3 ай бұрын
December 27th, 1998 Not 1999 Eric 😂
@eddienicholsonjr6080
@eddienicholsonjr6080 3 ай бұрын
Going to meet sting !!! Tomorrow!! Wcw 4 life
@WHEATZART
@WHEATZART 3 ай бұрын
William Regal Should have been the one to End it. William was very believable, and it could have propelled his career even higher.
@drewburnettepodcasts
@drewburnettepodcasts 3 ай бұрын
That is hilarious. I love Regal but no. Scott Steiner. He had everything and he was rising as a singles star. Scott dominates Goldberg that night and it makes a new star easily.
@WHEATZART
@WHEATZART 3 ай бұрын
@@drewburnettepodcasts that's precious but I stand by my words.
@jahdorose8659
@jahdorose8659 3 ай бұрын
Nothing last forever he Goldberg had to lose at some point
@OzzFan1000
@OzzFan1000 3 ай бұрын
WWF's first champion, Bruno Samartino, held the world title undefeated for 7 and a half years.
@acork7601
@acork7601 3 ай бұрын
Sigh, he lost in 1998
@JustCallMeD.
@JustCallMeD. 3 ай бұрын
sting? he beat up the whole nwo and everyone bought it
@starlinpena4943
@starlinpena4943 3 ай бұрын
Yes goldberg had to lose in 99 but to the right guy Not that BS they pulled
@ericmacgillivray537
@ericmacgillivray537 3 ай бұрын
Should have lost to ddp
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Gold berg rules. Let’s face it , Eric , your greatest wcw creation is bill Goldberg
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 3 ай бұрын
Should have lost to Sting, DDP, or Randy CLEAN.
@OzzFan1000
@OzzFan1000 3 ай бұрын
Not cleanly. That would have ruined all the buildup of Bill's character. Go ahead and give him an out by making it a dirty loss. And I agree Sting or DDP would have been excellent. Not sure about Randy though. Mabye.
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 3 ай бұрын
@@OzzFan1000 Randy makes the most sense because he's the most seasoned. Goldberg losing to the elbow drop makes sense.
@OzzFan1000
@OzzFan1000 3 ай бұрын
@@wesleywarsmith1113 I don't think seasoned should be among the criteria. In fact, I'd rather see it go to an up-and-comer who just happens to get lucky on a tainted win.
@davidtodd3401
@davidtodd3401 3 ай бұрын
Easy with hindsight, but I'd have kept the streak running with the title until the crowd started turning him, then have him turn him into a smug, superstar heel. Could have gotten another 2 years out of that and ridden the media buzz he already had. Bring Hulk back in the Hulkamania nostalgia run and have the rematch between the two with a whole new dynamic. One that would have fit perfectly with a Hogan nostalgia run (Goldberg could have been a Hogan 80s opponent as a big, strong heel all day long) But again, easy in hindsight. Knowing the plan was to build Bill back up by running through a heel faction, I get why he had to lose. I do think the Kevin Sullivan idea of Goldberg missing a spear and Nash hitting a jackknife was the way to go though. The stun gun was just meh
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Roman Reigns and Randy Orton, among others, idolized Bill Goldberg. To this day, Roman Reigns' finishing move is Goldberg's spear. So stop hating Bill Goldberg.
@pinroshan020
@pinroshan020 3 ай бұрын
Wtf! You forgot ryback because of the look
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@pinroshan020 who’s ryback? What year were you born kid????
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
When Goldberg turn heel that’s the time WCW falling. So technically bill Goldberg save WCW. Not Kevin Nash or William regal. Erick, without bill Goldberg WCW done in 1998.
@pinroshan020
@pinroshan020 3 ай бұрын
Pls fix your grammar because it’s so hard to understand what you’re saying. 😂
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@pinroshan020 Please use your common sense. Any fool can understand what I just wrote there. This is not a perfect world. So, be polite and respectful, and most importantly, stop being a hater.
@chrisjames5188
@chrisjames5188 3 ай бұрын
Nash was definitely not the guy to beat Goldberg
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Erick, once Bobby Heenan said Bill Goldberg's streak should go 1000-0. You know Bobby Heenan? He’s the smartest manager in all of wrestling. So that’s what he said. People who hate Goldberg weren’t even born in that period. I believe in Bobby Heenan; he gave Bill Goldberg the nickname 'The Man.' Back then, I used to watch WCW to see Goldberg and his streak."
@DavidMiller-uo6cs
@DavidMiller-uo6cs 3 ай бұрын
"people who hate Goldberg weren't even born in that period." Ummm, I was born in 87 and a whole lot of other people who dislike goldberg were born before he even debuted. Bobby Heenan might've been a really smart guy but no way should've Goldberg went 1000 to 0, that's way too predictable and boring and what talent would you even have left to be believable enough to beat Goldberg if that had happened?
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@DavidMiller-uo6cs Come on, use your common sense. What Bobby Heenan meant was that Bill Goldberg was good; he was good for business. Did you notice how electrifying his entrance was and the crowd screaming? Bobby Heenan was there to witness the electrifying crowd. Who cares about talent? William Regal may be a talented wrestler, but no one knew who he was after 2005. People come to wrestling to be entertained; most don’t give a damn about talent. You don’t know wrestling better than Bobby Heenan, right? So stop hating.
@adamkeller7749
@adamkeller7749 3 ай бұрын
@@Unpack lol As much as I like Heenan, he was wrong about Bill because technically speaking Goldberg was already 1000-0, there was nobody left anyway. The fact that you take someone's word without putting any effort into asking whether it makes any sense speaks volume about your own ability of critical thinking.
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@adamkeller7749 Adam, LOL, I speak for myself. I was living during that time and watching WCW to see Goldberg. I was following his unbeatable streak and hoping he would go 200-0. I don’t listen to other people. I have been a serious wrestling fan since 1993. In those days, like early 1998, I was hoping he would win in less than 5 minutes. The less time he took to beat his opponent, the happier I was. Bobby Heenan liked Bill Goldberg; he was a wrestling legend and knew more than you, Adam. You’re just a random Goldberg hater. I am sick and tired of people like you. I was a kid who really enjoyed Goldberg back then. So Adam, please stop hating.
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
@@adamkeller7749 Ask Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, and Drew McIntyre. They idolize Bill Goldberg. Do you know, Adam, that Randy Orton got his tattoo because of Bill Goldberg? Did you know Roman Reigns idolizes Bill Goldberg and his finishing move is still Goldberg's spear? So, Adam, do you know more about wrestling than they do? Those kids became wrestlers today because they watched Bill Goldberg back in those days. So stop hating.
@MarcoRizzolo
@MarcoRizzolo 4 ай бұрын
Goldberg should have just given up the title citing an injury. That Nash loss did nothing to move the needle. Also, Goldberg just needed to go back to the Power Plant and learn how to wrestle.
@dustin6528
@dustin6528 3 ай бұрын
Lol he was the top star in the company. Nobody cared about work rate in the late 90’s
@MarcoRizzolo
@MarcoRizzolo 3 ай бұрын
@@dustin6528 I loved Goldberg. But he needed some time off to fine polish his wrestling skills so he didn't hurt people. I like the short matches he had. He was like the modern day Ultimate Warrior to me.
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg streak should gone 200-0
@Unpack
@Unpack 3 ай бұрын
Erick, the biggest mistake you made was taking him out of his streak. You asked Bill Goldberg to turn heel, and within a year, WCW was done. You should have at least extended his streak to 200-0. Bill Goldberg was the reason WCW thrived from 1998 to 2000. Without Bill Goldberg, WCW would have shut down in 1998. Oh he was selling alright comparing to other wrestlers
@oliversmith5562
@oliversmith5562 3 ай бұрын
Not even CLOSE to being Eric's biggest mistake lol
@FitFreshMiami
@FitFreshMiami 3 ай бұрын
Conrad PLEASE…. do NOT get up
@VeronikaGama
@VeronikaGama 3 ай бұрын
Goldberg streak should’ve been ended by La Parka
@nathanwanner..44
@nathanwanner..44 3 ай бұрын
Having Goldberg go through guys that everyone knew he could never beat, whether it be in the ring or in real life, did not make any sense
@robertogomez2932
@robertogomez2932 3 ай бұрын
Because he sucked.