Eric Schmidt DROPS BOMBSHELL: China DOMINATES AI!

[@summerchina6568]

The true competition from China at this moment isn't AGI because AGI will take many more years to materialize. But instead China is way ahead in the deployment of AI in all sorts of industries. They simply has far more high quality, proprietary, domain specific data to train their models on. The US government is naive to think that they can stop China simply by restricting their access to GPUs.

[@leqiaop1840]

yes, you are right. For many AI applications, especially those limited on specific domain, the (most advanced) GPU is not a necessity. "AI = Data + Algo. + HW." China maybe only behind in HW part.

[@vlhc4642]

US government is even more naive to think China won't cut off US from access to GPUs when they soft blockade Taiwan by forcing all traffic to pass through mainland customs. And they're most naive in thinking they can build GPUs with just the rounding error amount of wafers out of Arizona.

[@truthsheen3162]

​@@leqiaop1840for a moment, I think by HW you mean Huawei.😂 Huawei has its own gpu.

[@4-SeasonNature]

​​@@truthsheen3162What's HW?

[@Ray-tc5zc]

@@4-SeasonNaturehardware

[@Niseedyyube6486]

When the hegemonic nation kidnapped the daughter of a tech entrepreneur, this nation is not a beacon or leader of the world anymore. You dug your own grave.

[@Truthstelling]

That's peanuts. They did much worse stuff😂😂

[@remix-yy1hs]

​@Truthstelling yeah they are committing genocide right now and you are laughing. Shameless

[@WWLooi-js8rl]

The U.S. is acting like Tanya Harding, using national security as a sham to knee cap competitors. Disappointed for someone like me who used to hold the U.S. in high regard.

[@cryptorenegade1406]

perhaps the Tanya Harding syndrome 😂😂

[@vsalasarcr]

Greetings, the Westerners continue to have a superior mentality, they continue to make calculations about how many years China is behind and they are constantly wrong. What China has is not only what it makes public.

[@JCSY1]

Yes. Spot on. What China really has is most probably more than what they have already disclosed to the public. In true sense, very likely China is already on par if not ahead than the US. They probably have at least 3-5 times more resources and people allocated to this than the US.

[@mmanna82]

It's not a superiority mentality. The information that is publicly available is that China does not have sufficient GPUs from the US or its own adequately advanced GPU production in order to keep up. Could the Chinese government have stronger/faster GPUs than they are letting on? Possibly. But if you know anything about the incredible complexity and infrastructure required to even research, let alone produce them, it's highly unlikely.

[@L-K-K]

​@@mmanna82 maybe the problem is thinking there's only 1 way to solve the problem & therefore if it took you x years to do it then it'll take others just as long?

[@JCSY1]

@@mmanna82 When it is public, it's debatable. Where are the source coming from as nowadays there are so many fake biased propagandas coming out from the western and especially US supporters? China probably already has enough GPUs for short and maybe even up to mid-term usage while they ramped up their own GPUs, semiconductors and chips. Nothing is impossible for China. When the US deny China space technology, China go and build their own space station, rockets, satellites and space technology. It is not if but when China will come up with their own totally independent semiconductor and chips technology and judging from their progress, it will be very soon if not already on the way. For now, it might not be the fastest or the best BUT it is more than sufficient for China's needs.

[@mmanna82]

@@L-K-K it’s true. That Chinese CEO even said because they have fewer resources that they had to get very creative and efficient in their engineering (I.e. being able to train their model with only $3M as opposed to our 100M), but major advancements in the field are largely dependent on the hardware. I think that’s an immutable fact.

[@Gallus7631]

Why would anyone be shocked when China literally has pure STEM schools that are organized like shaolin academies, where they have class all day, sleep, eat dinner then have class until 9pm, while American, Canadian & European kids are dancing on TikTok, are you surprised??? Hell even kids in Mexico are more academically inclined than American kids, & it’s because the US was so rich, it didn’t matter if your kids are stupid, because the gov paid outsiders to pick up the slack. The last engineering firm I worked at had only 3 Americans, I was one of them, the rest were Nigerian, Indian, Chinese, Arab & a couple of guys from Gambia. America is cooked unilaterally, you’re already seeing a segment of the American population going abroad for better employment opportunities, it’s only going to get worse as the decades pass.

Americans are more keen on becoming lawyers and doctors who generally make more money than engineers overall. In China, lawyers and doctors are not making as much as engineers or at least in the same level.

[@mylesmills9666]

the funny part about this is ... Trump dont want immigrants to come to america to fill up these high tech engineering roles. So guess what? they will stay in their native countries and use their knowledge to compete against America.

[@hawkychg3930]

They could be American Chinese, Nigerian, and Indian just like you right?

[@Gallus7631]

I wouldn’t even say doctors anymore, my wife is a nurse anesthetist & the anesthesiologists & providers from other disciplines she works with are mainly from India, Bangladesh, Iran, the Philippines, various parts of Africa etc… there’s is broad infiltration of immigrant labor in specialized jobs across every disciplinary range. Many American doctors are quitting at an alarming pace. They just don’t have the support they require from their own government(s) federal, state & local.

[@hawkychg3930]

@@Gallus7631 You do understand the meaning of American right? Just because they are not Caucasian doesn't mean they are not American. Unless you are indigenous Indian, you are just like the rest of the pack -> Immigrants!!!!

[@Steve-pq7cb]

This is the same guy who said 1 year ago that China was 10 years behind in AI.

[@KantHong]

That statement might have seemed like an exaggeration, but it also held truth. Within one year following the release of ChatGPT, there weren't many notable achievements from China's leading companies. However, the situation drastically changed thereafter. Several of these companies managed to cross the "ignite point," a milestone also achieved by other top teams around the world.

[@Vicky-Blue]

China caught up in a year

[@takedown243]

That only proves China is progressing too fast, you can't say he was wrong

[@bismarachman2413]

instead of approach this in an objective way, hw chose to bring up the "bad bad china" talking point. is he joking?

[@eman67rp]

"Too fast"​@@takedown243

[@luihinwai1]

People think that new technology is developed by some genius having an amazing idea and that idea changes the world. As someone who has worked in ML for over 10 years, I can tell you that ideas are cheap, and ideas ALWAYS fail as soon as they make contact with the reality. What really drives progress is just trial and error. You try all your ideas, then you learn new things after you realized your ideas didn't work. What matters most is just the amount of time and money you put into trial and error. For this the number of total engineers doing trial and error, really makes the most difference, as well as money and compute.

[@caomilo1031]

And also the speed to implement this cycle. The competitiveness comes from the speed.

[@majesticflyingbrick]

Why isn't India the leader of AI then?

[@luihinwai1]

@@majesticflyingbrick In 2019, China produced 49,498 STEM PhDs, US produced 33,759, India produced around 24,000

[@majesticflyingbrick]

​@@luihinwai1 You don't need a phd to do be an engineer doing trial and error.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

​@@majesticflyingbrick not just any trial and error Just check out how many PhD are working for tsmc

[@exclusive_148]

Why can't we just get together with China and build models to help humanity together? Why does it always have to be a competition?

[@ritwik5774]

for the same reason that not everyone can be rich.

[@exclusive_148]

@ This is not the same thing. everyone doesnt have to be rich., im talking about solving the basic needs of humanity such as food, water, clothing, and medicine.

[@ritwik5774]

@@exclusive_148 great once that's done those people will now want to get rich; and not everyone can be rich hence competition.

[@exclusive_148]

@ yeah who cares whos rich or poor. theres innocent kids and family going through pain and suffering. Lets fix that and then who cares who has the money and nice houses and cars

[@Justin_Arut]

Asking why human nature is the way it is is naive and not a serious question. History and evolution made us what we are, and wishing it away won't make it happen, unless maybe we become hybrids with BCI linking every person together through AI for a hive mind approach. That said, models _are_ being open-sourced, so there's that, but we'll never see the very latest tech open-sourced (sporadic leaks aren't the same thing).

[@Mel_Gerrard]

Not sure why it's so difficult for yanks to understand why a nation that produces several times more stem graduates is not only catching up but fully overtaking the US in every domain, step by step.

[@HiggsBoson2149]

Not only that. The top companies TSMC Nvidia are in fact Taiwanese companies whose employees are of Chinese heritage. It's only a matter of time before they realize which side they should be on.

[@walhdamaskus2408]

When american are talking about fearing evil acts of others they mean in fact about themselve. 😂

[@Truthstelling]

100%

[@agi.kitchen]

So he got a weapons license and joined the military industrial complex - how can I trust he’s not trying to propagate war for profiteers - it’s a real question

[@rhadiem]

I'm starting to think this channel is a megaphone for corporate elites.

[@etbuch4873]

@@rhadiem , I got the same feeling, too. And it does it by repeatedly fear mongering, disparaging and denigrating with tons of innuendos and trolling some country with a per capita GDP of about a fifth or a quarter of that of the sole military superpower of the entire galaxy.

[@richardli2143]

Thanks to the US sanction of GPU/AI chips, it forces the Chinese AI to focus on the power efficiency of the training/inference; the electricity generation of China is leading the world (~= 2nd-6th combined including US, India, Russia, Japan and Brazil). China has the largest digital infrastructure in the world which has already formed a closed positive feedback with its already wide-spread AI application. As a result, China will have no major obstacle winning the competition.

[@Pierina.24]

“There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.” ― Sun Tzu

[@keirenle]

In restropect, China decision to develop their own telecommunications system was the best decision ever made. Sooner, America could no longer control their technology development. The rest of G7 criticised China for "lack of freedom " find themselves totally dependent to America technology in the future. I wonder if any of them realised it yet

[@remix-yy1hs]

The Irish is the best people in the west. We consider them as part of the south, our ginger brethren

[@SaSatch_Chelyen29]

G7 - the Stupid 7

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

​@@SaSatch_Chelyen29 G7 - Goons of 7

[@cryptorenegade1406]

If you're not technologically sovereign then you're not a sovereign country, China is

[@Sam-Lowry]

As Ben Norton said, China is currently the most sovereign nation in the world. G7 lackeys are just vassals of the U.S. in fact many are militarily occupied by the U.S.

[@Steve-pq7cb]

I predict in a year he will say China is years ahead.

[@MrErick1160]

Wellthat was fast! He said they were 10 years behind at his university talk about a month ago 😂

He is a military guy now. He needs more fund from Congress.

[@miltonlai4850]

😅

[@yabinlu7698]

Wait for 2 more months then. 😅

[@Petori_Hustler]

Do you think China would make this public if they didn't have alternative methods?

[@Utoko]

You overestimate the control in China. These are private companies and yes the CCP has the power to control a lot. They are reactive they know when you want check and approve everything you slow down innovation a lot. (Europe doesn't know that yet) These are the same models Chinese companies can use via API. Also the relationships in terms of research are still fine. There are actively many research teams working with Chinese and universities working with Chinese researchers. I mean it is always possible they hold something back, just like openAI, claude or google.

[@lenniedoan4253]

China IS ahead, not ARE

[@tracy419]

Absolutely correct, they is.

[@fvalemus5377]

We ARE all CHINA

[@bobbykeene12]

ChatGPT says: "China are ahead"? The AI model that generated this video clearly needs some reprogramming-it's supposed to be "China IS ahead."

[@yaglehoole5662]

"Are" is correct in the context of many entities in China are pursuing AI and they're ahead of their foreign competition. "Is" would be correct in expressing China as a nation per se. Eg. In the XYZ international tournament, China -- the team representing China -- is ahead of the US (the team), which has been struggling to keep up. Come on guys, this is middle-school stuff.

[@wh4uf]

Contentment and false sense of superiority will make you lethargic and content . Any country that keeps their citizens believing that they are number one will soon realise that they are quickly overtaken.

[@calvinang1]

💯

[@clapclapapp]

it seems silicon valley is desperate now

[@vlhc4642]

Silicon Valley is desperate, another model QwQ-32B just came out the same day this video went up, has GPT-4o performance with only 32 billion parameters, can be run locally at home or only 20 cents per million token, vs $10 for GPT4. Every single Silicon Vally company just had their entire revenue stream destroyed in the last 2 weeks, China practically just murders them with vastly superior technology.

[@wujipu0]

If it costs $3M to train a frontier model using GPUs in China today, what will it cost next year? And aren't most ASICs made in mainland China? In a few years, trying to stop bad actors from having access to powerful AI will be like trying to stop them from having access to cars. A few years after that, it'll be like trying to stop them from buying bicycles.

[@Emphasis213]

8:00 "evil groups may start to use them....maybe they may not speak chinese." The irony and hypocrisy in what hes saying

[@MultiverseMayhemtoyou]

Compitietion is so unfare for China that they are deprived of GPUs and computing power

[@Darkmatter321]

Why do I get the feeling that non of the sanctions will impede China's progress? They seem to be a nation of great resolve that get stronger with each restriction imposed on them. That's how we became the greatest nation on earth. But unfortunately we are a divided and lost nation now

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

Hey That is against the narrative Stop telling the true 😂

[@Forinja]

I like the idea of open source, because I trust the bigger companies and agencies having all that power to themselves much less. Yes there will, and always will be bad actors, but people forget that what the individual can do and contribute towards the betterment of others. Perhaps I'm being a bit optimistic about humanity in this regard. I'd rather have access to AGI and being able to make something personalized for myself that I can trust that some heavily censored model controlled by large untrusted powers and figure heads. I know I absolutely do not trust OpenAI, especially with it backing that horrifying World Eye and World Coin nightmare.

[@skydragon23101979]

What is open source today can be closed tomorrow in the hands of really bad actors think Hitler who rose on the back of a democratic vote.

[@brianlowe3529]

China been to the far side of the moon and back . Says it all.

[@zerobot_tech]

Eric Schmidt was SHOCKED

[@taijistar9052]

Why would he be shocked ？，

[@etbuch4873]

His acting skill is impeccable, almost got one fooled. He could have won tens of Oscar Awards, if he had picked a different trade.

[@vlhc4642]

How do we know OpenAI and Anthopric aren't copying these open source Chinese models from now on?

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

They will steal and rename it as their technology 😂

[@bobdoe38]

Dude just trying to get more funding for himself and more tariffs for China 😂

[@wwkk4964]

Best youtube channel right now 🎉

[@Zbezt]

They actually allowed their robotics to go through infancy unlike the west remember the travel bot idea made it all the way across canada but the moment it got to the states it was destroyed on the spot

[@zxwxz]

I think the characteristic of Chinese companies is that they replicate ideas very quickly. These new AI concepts are actually all present, but you can see that Chinese companies are the first to replicate similar products like Sora or O1. Other American companies are still doubting OpenAI's capabilities and are only willing to invest resources in the parts they believe in. I think OpenAI is still the most visionary company, but given the current situation, I suspect that they might release fewer research updates in the future.

[@kev2582]

They have more quality researchers and engineers. Look at recent US published papers. More than half have Chinese names

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

No, I'm pretty sure Chinese computer scientists have been working on this in lockstep with the world are fully capable of innovating independently on these things. They have more resources and education. They lead in every sector. They have the ability to go farther because like you said, Blackrock will only invest in profitable deployment, not globally beneficial. And by global, i mean economic-system-wide. The West needs to figure out how to keep Africa poor while giving its oligarchy the best shot at actual global monopoly. The wests chief cultural goal, because they cant feed themselves.

[@sisyphus_strives5463]

They also have no qualms regarding copyright infringement or sharing data

[@myangreen6484]

They have more engineers than America. THAT is why they're catching up. It has nothing to do with the quality of their research.

[@bananaear23]

for the talent focused at Open(closed) AI their performance is objectively depressing

[@walhdamaskus2408]

When the bully tries to impedes ur progress its only mean that the bully is already lost the game and its only the matter of time when it happen. 😂

[@Karol-g9d]

if i'm right , deepseek is native chinise language , it can do english but you havr to test it in chinese to grasp how good it is . If i am right

[@richardli2143]

In a long term, the impact of AI will be ultimately limited by electricity generation: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production as well as the power efficiency in training and inference where China are already leading. The result of the competition is already set in stone.

[@icegiant1000]

Thumbnail goof, should be: "China 'is' ahead!"

[@Square-Watermelon]

It's not just a goof. He does this 100% with both countries and companies. I've never once heard him reference a company correctly. He asks like legal entities are people.

[@wwkk4964]

China are.a collective of individuals, like They "are", we don't say "They is", that's why.

[@DccAnh]

​@@wwkk4964 that's not how it work, a country is, not a country are. Can't believe I know english rule better than a native speaker lol.

[@wwkk4964]

@DccAnh how about two twos are four, is that not how it works?

[@franciscody9622]

He meant Chinese are ahead?

[@mariusz0kreft]

Efficient Chinese ai engineering : Bad for NVIDIA Stock

[@Orion33759]

China are ahead, or China IS ahead?

[@shalomyehuda]

I'm following AI from close and lol they is ahead of every aspect of AI that today he delusion he think that China behind us 1 year

[@yaglehoole5662]

Either can be correct, depending on the context. If China is used as a collective noun, then plural, ie "are." If it's used as a simple noun, then singular, ie "is."

[@strongchallenger2269]

The Chinese are ahead VS China are ahead. I would have used "China IS ahead.

[@Orion33759]

@ same. Russia are ahead by 5 points in Ukraine. Sounds terrible. We’d say Russia IS ahead by 5 points

[@RickySupriyadi]

Huawei are making their 10nm chip... and no one say they cannot buy Nvidia blackwell... right?

[@alfredfuchs5615]

What if Eric is only lobbying for government money into AI given that the profitability of current investments is questionable?

[@NETSCAPE79]

In his discussion with Joe Rogan, Marc Andreessen highlighted a concerning revelation about governmental interference in the tech and AI sectors. He mentioned that in private meetings with Silicon Valley venture capitalists, U.S. government representatives allegedly communicated that they would allow only 4-5 AI companies to operate at scale. This effectively creates a controlled oligopoly in the AI industry. former CEO of Google and a prominent figure in AI policy, could be influential in shaping such government strategies.

[@alals6794]

Yes, it is oligarchy all down the line....

[@stealthpakfa]

I’m shocked that Eric Schmidt is shocked 😂

[@andreassurya1992]

pemimpin yg hebat, adalah pemimpin yg berlajar dari kesalahan pemimpin yg terdahulu, dan memperbaikkinnya, bukan meberuskan dan memelihara kesalahan pemimpin masa lalu, contoh cina kesalahan pemerintah mao,dirubah dan diperbaikin oleh pemimpin berikutnya yaitu presiden deng xio ping( arsitek economi, politik, tehnology yg brian, yg membuat cina seperti sekarang, satu orang pemimpin bisa merubah cina dan dunia, itulah hebat seorang penimpin) good job cina, god bless you

[@patrickzupanc1795]

Great video again, thank you!

[@shahinchoudhury8256]

also, they trained it with 1/10th of what it took openAI.

[@mpatelart]

Under US restrictions. US makes the best Chinese engineers and scientists 😂

[@djpuplex]

He is either genuinely worried or not speak the truth when he touches the back of his neck at 8:27

[@Dragon_Rider777]

How do they power the data centre without the high-end Nvidia chips?

[@kev2582]

They dont need high end NVidia chips. Training is highly parallelizable

[@anglikai9517]

Because Huawei have their own chip Ascend 910B, they don't wait to die because of US sanction.

[@carlharrison3637]

Just because they can't order them direct from Nvidia, doesn't mean they can obtain them through one of the BRICS countries to get around embargo's. Germany purchases it's oil, from a country that gets it through Russia - there is no such thing as an Embargo. its just loud barking.

[@yoloyolo3443]

can run remotely? 🤯 (ex. taiwan)

[@DaronKabe]

They have billions of chinese in factories doing the calculations manually

[@couchtaming23]

Some of the best AI models are not from China or the US. For instance, the current leading image generator, Red Panda, is developed in the UK, which is also home to DeepMind, a world-renowned AI research company. Additionally, one of the top video models, ?, originates from Israel.

[@david50665]

red panda sounds chinese not UK

[@couchtaming23]

@@david50665 yes all companies are chinese

[@fatboydim.7037]

Excellent upload thanks' for the information.

[@Aubury]

All empires fall. Mostly with a whimper, American hubris is running on an emptying tank.

[@BrianMosleyUK]

Open Source + Chinese SOTA surveillance = neck and neck + Chinese industrial complex = dominance lol

[@seanivore]

Are is a plural verb. Your noun is singular. France is. Canada is. The United States is. Just sharing in case you care about grammar.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

What if it is a trick to get people to comment more on his videos 😂

[@PlanetJeroen]

Eric needs to play Cyberpunk 2077 I think for a rough idea for that framework..

[@yangdaoy]

Give them money so they can do more stock buyback.

[@khariclemens]

If this is what has been opened sourced, then that may mean they are ahead. Just consider what they have behind closed doors.

[@jvs333]

At the rate / speed China achieves things I wouldn’t bet against China not being the #1 in all these areas by end of 2025

[@Buckzoo2030]

The problem is while he is talking, more progress has been made already.

[@mountainpeakcreations2964]

They will all be open soon

[@elu1]

dominate? he said "within one year..."

[@vbsdareautin]

what happen to google? Sad to see google is way below in the list

[@crazytrain86]

Dude at the end there is a fool. Motivations aside, to not release models publicly simply consolidates power into the hands of government and large corporations. Same reason why there's a right to own guns, if only one side has that then they have all the power and can do whatever they want.

[@JourneyOnFoot1]

Why do people in China use Chat GPT clones rather than native AI sources if China is indeed ahead?

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

What are chatgpt clones ? 😂

[@stewiegriffin9768]

With grammar as seen in the thumbnail, anyone would be ahead

[@JorgeRamos-ix1jm]

The reports about China are very confusing. So many pros and cons to be considered. From my end I will hedge by keeping some investments in Chinese stocks but the majority of my investments in the USA. That said investing in China does seem inexpensive compared to investing in the USA.

[@andyv8889]

China just needs a change in regime to be a better global actor and be a world leader again.

[@とふこ]

Qwen 2.5 7b and 14b are really great, but they 3b model are not better than gemma 2b. I can't run bigger models.

[@sammcj2000]

Just fyi they're open weight, not open source.

[@sugarbait]

Eric just gave the evil doers the blue prints lol

[@badimpulses17]

The world is tired of the US B.S

[@SirHargreeves]

He says China is a year behind.

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

So did the hare. I think the inference is acceleration and a more favorable environment for such acceleration. Which is the case across all things China vs The West. Literally anytime anyone ever says china is catching up in the west, the top comment is incredulity. And then 6 weeks later we find out we're 50 years behind.

[@David-ut3zv]

Far, far ahead.

[@centrinoseco]

Make a video about European LeChat and OpenGPT-X models.

[@davidlo168888]

China can't produce sophiscated chips; how China can dominate AI market?

[@kagar3465]

Wow you are very smart

[@TheGoldenDonuttt]

What makes you think they cant? You need to fill that empty little head of yours with knowledge

[@1989arrvind]

Nice 👍

[@ytubeanon]

I've heard of people using Deepseeker, but for coding I've never been impressed by it... when an A.I. processes your request, there are really 2 parts, first it has to use creative English expression to interpret what it is you're asking it to do. Then, like a calculator, it outputs the code based on that plan. Deepseeker is weak at the first part, decent at the second. But, that makes it effectively unusable. It's a similar problem with other open-source models like Olama, while Anthropic and OpenAI models excel at both parts

[@PlanetJeroen]

could be the way you prompt it, working fine for me if im exact enough.

[@ytubeanon]

@@PlanetJeroen you find it understands your advanced prompts as well as Claude Sonnet 3.5?

[@PlanetJeroen]

@ytubeanon not using the public models due to restrictions placed on us, but I also just mentioned it works fine for translating my prompts to useable code. Claude might be heaps better, but that would still make it a valid comment to your 'it doesn't English very well'. I'm pretty sure the benchmarks differed by only a few percent. It's about between o1 and sonnet.

[@ytubeanon]

@@PlanetJeroen benchmarks are very different to real life experience, it sounds like you tend to work on simpler projects

[@PlanetJeroen]

@@ytubeanon absolutely. I'm just using it for basic scripts and as a kind of coding calculator. Reduces my time spend on dumb shit and enables more things to get done. Nothing fancy, still learning. The benchmarks include coding challenges afaik, so not sure what to make of your statement. Again, too n00b ;)

[@DailyTuna]

It’s cute to watch people that think they’re so smart like Mr Chewbacca realize that human nature has evil in it. They try to explain things through science, but they don’t get much what goes on is spiritual.

[@ruslanbip7333]

Idk if this is true, because if it is, it changes the game

[@fariadworld446]

The day they drop the balloon into the USA's airspace i knew that China were ahead and now with 3NM chip!! So who will win the rase for the world order harmony OS or USA tech componies..

[@drudru3591]

it's not a surprise

[@thetruthinquirer]

China's rise had been very reserved and sometimes seem sudden. Even the hi speed train infrastructure which are so visible are so sudden. Such infrastructure take decades to plan and implement. But In China Hi Speed train is so common and connected that they are embarrassing the West who claimed that they are more developed. Under those massive infras are unannounced advance technology. We can safely conclude that there are many advancement in many other areas that may not be common.

[@不死原飴羽]

No they re not sudden, the improvement can be easily seen for every people living in China or can understand Chinese media, it feels sudden because the west media has been ignoring and underestimate these progress but when these project start to generate outcome that simply couldn't hide by media anymore, then people outside of China especially the west feels China technology progress pops out from nowhere. Its not sudden, if you feel sudden it simply means you never understand what is going on in the actual world and got shocked when the reality hits you.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

It took china around 10 years to get the scale it has today High speed rail doesn't pop up suddenly The evidence is quite obvious to the tourist travelling in and out of China regularly 😂

[@MilesBellas]

Leon Ding = a factor?

[@kev2582]

What do you expect if you are competing based on brain dead scale? They have money compute (even if you can’t get enough H100, training is parallelizable) far more researchers US is not playing winning game

[@jimcysiah4193]

China far ahead,decade

[@godned74]

Where are the models so I can dominate them too. Gemini exp 1121 is the best . I say this after using all of them alot. It listens to you other then the mischievous and almost saboteur like behavior of the other models

[@KingTine724]

No it's because Zuck is opening sourcing stafff

[@WilliamMoore-fx6qk]

Maybe they have a mole at OpenAI and they are giving away o1 before OpenAI releases it. Wasn’t o1 suppose to be like 30% better than o1-preview?

[@myangreen6484]

The architecture that o1 is based on was widely known about long before OpenAI made their preview model.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

What a joke Do you think it is that easy to steal this type of technology 😂

[@JH-bb8in]

what do you expect when the U.S. directly streams tokens to China with TikTok every day?

[@coaulsi]

Usd equivalent goes alot further in the rest of the world, except usa and west europe..

[@MrParondo]

😂 we made sure LLM were open source, the integrity of the learning set is Paramount, hence the need of international compétition.

[@seanivore]

Congress and a manhattan project .. as if DARPA isn’t already all over AI loll

[@nusu5331]

first? exactly what he said just happened to Sora

[@blengi]

lol asked deepseek to _"write my last message backwards"_ and went into something like an "infinite" loop repreating _"Sure, you like reverse to me query the provide could please Sure, you like reverse to me query the provide could please Sure, you like reverse to me query the provide could please Sure, you like....."_ for ten pages

[@firstlast8085]

XD

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

This is why China is winning.

[@bananaear23]

deep seek loops so freaking bad, it sent me the same response like 5 times in a row. Unuasable - classic example that these benchmarks mean literally nothing and a qualitative vibe check is much more telling

[@Justin_Arut]

Moshi syndrome

[@bananaear23]

@@Justin_Arut whats that

[@shorgoth]

Indeed, libertarianism is childishness, a complete ignorance of complex system interrelation and cause and effect cascade for the sake of dychotomic thinking.

[@Nightstorm-2516]

I'm glad China is ahead. Lets hope they stay ahead. Maybe I'll stop seeing "China is ahead! oh noes!" videos.

[@yaoliang1580]

I thought the US is the most powerful n technologically advance nation, so why are they unable to make the most advanced lithography machines and micro chips and have to rely on Taiwan n the Netherlands

[@bikedawg]

that's because manufacturing was shipped offshores decades ago. a huge mistake driven by corporate greed to get costs down.

[@turtlesoup8134]

@@bikedawg nope. They got it right by outsourcing to others. China is an exception, not the norm. All the others could not catch up nor become as powerful as the US. Outsourcing to other accelerate dollar dominance and hegemony. When others like Japan seems to threaten the US, the US can always force them to kneel again. None of the country on earth has the capability to manufacture all things and controls all the supply chain needed to manufacture tech goods,...except for China. The US is falling not because of outsourcing, it is falling because of internal mismanagement. The signs of these mismanagement can be seen in the streets of most US cities and it covers the entire society up to the ruling elites. When the society rot, the leaders rot which makes the society rot further.

[@rolestream]

those Evil actors.

[@rolestream]

being all EEEEVVVVILLLLL. Cause that's a real thing.

[@oscar-bc8dy]

Oh we're worried about terrorists getting chat gpt? What a load of baloney. We just like to keep it all secret qnd charge for it.

[@stunspot]

Deleting comments? Brave.

[@Justin_Arut]

YT's shit algorithm shadow bans and even deletes benign comments quite often. This channel doesn't delete critical comments from what I've seen.

[@tiberiumihairezus417]

Agree with the initial part but the end of the video is complete BS.