How To Shallow The Shaft Like The Pros

[@Mike-hc3ve]

Consummate teacher with enthusiasm every time! You deserve all the rewards of success.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate that, Mike! Thanks for being here with us!

[@birchburner2756]

Wow. I paused this video 35 secs in and had a look at my own swing. I thought I could fix my early extension only using more rotation , but clearly I need to have a look at my steep shaft too. Always so darn to the point Eric. You showing the shaft leading to early extension was an exact replica of my swing.

[@CogornoGolf]

Yessir! I would say the steep shaft is #1 or #2 cause of EE. Poor setup with hips too far back and open club face also in there

[@birchburner2756]

@@CogornoGolf hips too far back as in hips too closed? Or relative to the feet?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Nope....hips too far back like away from the ball. Center of the hips should be over center of ankles kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWape4Wtj8R6pKs

[@michaelb6801]

The best feel and visual coach in golf. Keep it up Eric🤘

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it!

[@wallstreetoneil]

Great video Eric - this in a nutshell fixes 98% of golfers. I like you am now working on reducing this - how to be in these 'stronger' positions but keep it to a 3-yard draw - but this is 5 light-years away from my old timing flip hands at impact swing. Now I do a JT pre-shot backswing of seeing the club outside the hands at 1st parallel for width and then I do a supermini, Matt Wolf tennis loop, to feel the club behind the hands at 2nd parallel with right-wrist extension - and it's working - just seeing & feeling those 2 positions as my pre-shot routine

[@CogornoGolf]

Yessir! Its good to get to that point where you have that problem....like making so much money you need to figure out how to handle bigger tax bills. Good things---lets get to those problems and learn to figure those out!

[@ruudengelhart5127]

Hi, only stumbled on your videos last week and they are great! Huge help. One question though because you go over it pretty fast and I am not a native speaker: how do you prevent keeping the clubface open at impact?

[@CogornoGolf]

Thank you! 1. Make sure your grip is neutral to strong 2. Wrist angles (left wrist flat/bowed and right wrist bent back) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHjUi32go6l0ZrM

[@ruudengelhart5127]

Great, thanks a lot!

[@stevestrang480]

Love the right elbow underneath the left . I can’t improve that enough. Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope it helps Steve!

[@pigslefats]

Hi Eric. If you shallow too much and are below the plane what is the likely consequence?- Blocks to the right, early extension maybe? I think I'm shallowing too much and my swing at the bottom as gone to hell

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes. Pushes and hooks. Fats and thins. I would do these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn66omCNj7dgZs0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/enmnhGR9obWrgsk

[@keyerichter9170]

I've watched several videos with great success but my question is that seeing so much acceleration through the ball, when should that begin?. It seems that is isn't always from the top which might cause too much throw. Think that is missing piece for me to hit it a tad further or with more force. Thanks in advance for your help. Wish I could come there for a lesson.

[@CogornoGolf]

I would have the acceleration be steady. Too much too fast just as bad as the opposite. I like finding tempo like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2TEgYyYZruDadU

[@jimspatz9211]

Can you consider a video on "finishing low left" drills for those of us that get "shallow", but our path is too inside/out? We know we need to learn how to rotate, but don't. A drill would be great. I'll check previous vids for it, as well. Thanks EC.

[@CogornoGolf]

Yep!

[@harrybryant9338]

Sir Cogorno, Long time watcher, first time commentator here. Quick "Q" for you. I'm kind of a physics nerd and I heard you reference the "balance point" on the shaft. I'm curious, if the balance point of the shaft would also be it's center of mass?

[@CogornoGolf]

Roughly speaking

[@hansidelk6604]

Is it fair to say that the hands (at the top of the swing) should be inline with your right shoulder? Getting back further than that you risk flipping, early extension even?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Hansi! Nope--many players get slightly behind the right shoulder. I do not see a correlation between specifically that and flipping. In fact I would say the opposite about early extension. Many people who get hands too far UP not IN early extend to lower the arms and shallow shaft in downswing kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJrJiWt3pdyceM0

[@hansidelk6604]

@@CogornoGolf ok, thank you. I watched a few top players after I wrote the question and I could see they were slightly behind the right shoulder. Flipping occurs more if you lean against the target or dont get enought width at the top Im guessing. Thanks!!

[@KeesCheese72]

Eric, can this drill be done with longer irons (4i-6i), D, FWs, and Hy to help get those clubs shallowed and coming from the inside as well? I’m guessing not really? So if not, is there a drill to get these same feels and shallower plane with these longer clubs? I did this drill station today for about an hour and a half on the range and while a few shots came off the club crisp, most of them resulted in toey, lower flighted pull hooks that felt like hitting a brick 🧱 with the club, vibrating the entire club in my hands making it and the club face twist open but the result was that low pull hook? Also felt at times like the club was seeping through the ball instead of hitting down on the ball with compression (9i). Have no idea 🤷‍♂️ why?? I was steadfast in setting up the station like you instructed in the video. Do these issues sound familiar or even relevant to this drill station, or am I just doing something Wrong 🤦? Joining your site before the new prices go into effect!

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Kevin! 1. Yes it can be done with longer clubs. 2. As you know...I would need to see your swing to offer you advice and guidance to each of your specific questions. Way too much guessing on my end without seeing you swing. You know where to find us my friend :) Hope all is well

[@KeesCheese72]

@@CogornoGolf Eric, Buddy, joined back up yesterday for your Yearly Plan! Great 👍 deal by the way! New swing post coming in a few days. Would really like You or Steve S. to be my coach if possible. Ok, on this Drill, how do you set it up for the longer clubs, including D, FW, and Hy., and what changes in how you execute the drill? 🙏 I need to shallow my swing for All my clubs.

[@chachifeere]

Can you still comes across the ball during the downswing even if you shallow the club ?

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes..

[@chachifeere]

@@CogornoGolf okay I figured that

[@daddar15]

The most important move in golf right here

[@CogornoGolf]

Biggie!

[@richardjames4349]

I do these drills and go slow but as soon as I take a full swing I go right back to being steep. I really don’t know why. I have the live view that I watch myself on. I’m wondering if i may be doing something to cause it? How can I get a swing evaluation from you?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Richard! I would spend an entire week at 10% speed. Then 20% speed week 2 I would look at it like a 90 day plan Add 10% speed each week That will take discipline but will work!! By the end of 90 days (12 weeks) you would be able to do it full speed. Its like learning Spanish 1 in 9th grade and going right to a Spanish speaking country and wondering why you can't do it :) It takes time :) www.cogornogolf.com would love to have you on the team and help guide your improvement!

[@mitchelllee7542]

Excellent video

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Mitchell!

[@johnherman3261]

Thanks Eric.

[@CogornoGolf]

You got it my friend!

[@316rms]

Great!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Rick!

[@randymahony8157]

The problem with live view is it's only compatible with apple devices.

[@CogornoGolf]

:(

[@daveandereck4803]

Not true. I have LiveView and have Android phone and tablet. Get LVStudio in the app store. Works fine.

[@sjld88]

Some of this is a complete contradiction of what was said in the video you did with Mike Malaska and his teachings, us you tube fans are being tied in knots.....

[@legend9018]

Didn’t see that video but Mike is big on how the wrists work in the swing and not so much about shallowing the shaft so I can see how there’s a contradiction. Point may be that you have to try several things and see what works for you and your unique swing, delivery, etc.

[@BeefyPreacher]

Mike explains the difference in that video. Mike teaches how to shallow the arms while keeping the club in front of the hands, Eric teaches how to shallow the shaft more with the body, and having a body driven swing. They agree on the fact the club should shallow, and positions the club should be in, but Mike teaches a shallowing of the arms. I like Mike’s way to shallow a lot, it’s easier on my back, and is mostly directing the path of the club. I’ve been dabbling in Eric’s too, I’m just not got at the body-driven swing. I’d recommend trying both and seeing which one works better for you ❤️

[@legend9018]

@@BeefyPreacher that’s great and I agree, there’s more than one way to skin a cat lol. I do like a lot of what both Mike and Eric are showing.

[@CogornoGolf]

ITs much more the same than different.....we talked about that together here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3LbfIZuZ7xle5I

[@sjld88]

@@CogornoGolf Sorry, You're saying "shallow the club out" he's saying " pull the hands in and stand the club up" they can't both be right, by the way, I'm good standard golfer, love your channel Eric but everybody seems to be trying to shallow it out that much they're coming in with an open clubface and shanking the crap out of it...